Trump says he’s designating Antifa as a terrorist organization
President Donald Trump said he is designating the far-left anti-fascism movement Antifa as a terrorist organization, announcing the move on his Truth Social platform in the early hours of Thursday morning UK time.
It wasn’t immediately clear what mechanism Trump would use to make the designation, and Antifa lacks centralized structure or defined leadership, making it unclear who or what precisely would be targeted.
“I am pleased to inform our many U.S.A. Patriots that I am designating ANTIFA, A SICK, DANGEROUS, RADICAL LEFT DISASTER, AS A MAJOR TERRORIST ORGANIZATION,” Trump wrote. “I will also be strongly recommending that those funding ANTIFA be thoroughly investigated in accordance with the highest legal standards and practices. Thank you for your attention to this matter!”
A White House official told CNN, “This is just one of many actions the president will take to address left wing organizations that fuel political violence.”
Trump — who’s overseas for a formal state visit — signaled the move earlier this week in remarks from the Oval Office following the murder of conservative activist Charlie Kirk.
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To be a terrorist organization, don’t you first have to be… an organization?
Or at least commit acts of terrorism?
How do you add "no terrorism" to "no organization", and come up with "terrorist organization"?
Antifa's Wikipedia page has a similar juxtaposition:
See, that’s a double negative, so the “no’s” cancel each other out, therefore you are left with a terrorist organisation
YOU TRUST WOKEPEDIA?! DATS ANTIFA PROPAGANDA! /s
Double negative. minus x minus = plus
EDIT: fixed
Reminds me of a video on the Lambda Calculus I watched a bit ago that I was far too stupid to understand XD
That's why they want to do it. If there's no hierarchy or apparatus, no Central structure, no actual organization, well that all just means that they can call you a member if they want and there's nothing to dispute it. It's perfect for them.
Plus, so many of your rights are stripped once you are charged with terrorism, so as they continue to pass laws that bypass due process they can just use this to round up citizens and put them in camps
"Enemies of the state"
They want a witch hunt? Those witches HEXED Charlie Kirk.
First they came for the communists...
Actually, they came for immigrants first. Arguably black people.
Pedantry aside, the poem you're referencing is 100% applicable.
We've been at war with categories and concepts for decades, this isn't really different.
We've always been at war with the concept of Eurasia
Don't tell anyone but I heard the CEO of antifa was Charlie Kirk.
That was my first question.
That’s exactly what a terrorist disorganization would say.
The notorious hackers anonymous and 4chan soon to be arrested. Hope they rot in prison together with the leadership of the trans agenda.
Apparently no. We are in a post-truth society, reality lost, it is whatever they say it is. That is until we get some real leadership
Politicians are not meant to be leaders.
It’s the same thing they do with claiming some random tattoo is a gang tattoo.
It’s difficult to prove an actual crime was committed by someone than to create a scary boogeyman “organization” and just convince people you’re guilty by association. It’s even easier when you can change the characteristics of the boogeyman to match the person you’re trying to prosecute.
We’ve let it go on for decades, and now there’s plenty of precedent. We don’t stand a chance.
How do they decide someone is antifa? Is it going to be just everyone they don't like?
Yes, exactly.
Mostly true but I'm guessing exceptions are made for speaking badly of dear leader.
Anything not in line with the fascists, yes. Anti-Trump will be illegal.
America seems to want this.
“Are you against fascism?”
“So you’re anti fascist?”
“We have a confession boys, prepare the firing squad”
Firing squad? Buddy, you're going to Gitmo for a few years of "enhanced interrogation" so they can shake some accomplices outta you
America may be ignorant but the majority certainly doesn’t want this.
49.8% voted for this, more than any other option. 0.5% voted for RFK Jr so it's highly likely that over 50% of people who felt bothered to actually vote seemed to be ok with it.
I suppose you could say they were misinformed, but people were pretty loud about it...
They also did everything they could to block, purge, or straight up steal Democrat votes. Any number coming from the gov't at this point is likely bullshit.
Am I the only person who remembers Trump all but admitting on national television that Musk rigged the voting machines in his favor?
And then all the highly irregular ballots that appeared that are, and I quote, "consistent with vote manipulation" as per the neutral third party assigned to investigate?
And then nobody investigated it at all because we "couldn't be taken seriously about it" because of the huge Stop The Steal right wing uproar the prior election.
Don't trust those reported numbers, they are almost certainly fabricated.
The majority never voted for the Nazi party either. It doesn't matter. If they don't rise up against fascism, that's enough for the fascist to win.
A lot of people were saying that the last election was the choice between democracy and fascism - and still enough people either didn't know or didn't care.
I'm afraid that the erosion of the education system did what it was designed to do: produced enough uneducated people to allow propaganda to break democracy.
Agreed.
If you're anti-trump you suffer from trump-derangement-syndrome, ie. are mentally damaged.
If you're anti-fascism you're part of antifa, a terror risk.
For both rules and regulations are on the table to help them give you your own cot at a crocodile swamp-camp.
I think you accidentally figured out their whole plan. It was always made to be as ambiguous as possible so they can do whatever they want. Classssic dictator shit.
Anyone who is not sufficiently anti-antifa, which means anyone not a fascist.
anti-anti-fascist.
anyone that is probably black(which trump hates alot he got it from his father), blm, anyone protesting the gop, or kirk.
I mean that's also the same way they decide who is a terrorist too. So, really, it's just more of the same with new buzzwords.
Tshirts
Every dictator does this
Any resistance will be declared Antifa. Anyone that gets in Trump's way will be declared Antifa. Anything not Maga will be declared Antifa.
America seems to be at a point where anything that resists MAGA is, by definition, anti-facistic
Sounds like something Antifa member would say...
Perfection.
They should send Vance on a quest to find antifa headquarters.
You know he'll just end up raping couches in an IKEA storage facility somewhere
Again.
He doesn't even assemble them right with the little wooden dowel pegs to hold the pieces together either, just nuts and bolts.
He uses his own little wooden dowel. It's the same size.
or dolphins.
send his wife USHA.
Trump is a child rapist
child and wife rapist, and then threw her down the stairs and buried on his golf course.
Must mean they're pro fascist, then.
Oh... it absolutely does, no doubt about it
Always have been
Antifa is not an organization, it's an ideology. To be a patriotic American is synonymous with Antifascism. MAGA on the other hand, is a terrorist organization that has hijacked the United States Government in an ongoing coup.
I am deeply saddened that we are gonna need a bunch nore Patrick Henries to make this true.
This was foretold. Early in this fuckstick’s presidency, they changed the rules about what they can do to “terrorists.” I don’t remember the specifics, but basically making it so they can go all secret police on them. I think it was one of the earliest EOs.
And the author of this article I read was saying “this is a dangerous step, because the next block to fall is trump labeling ‘antifa’ a terrorist org and throwing anyone he wants into a deep dark hole.”
Looks like it only took less than a year. Full-on fascism.
They are doing this so they can call any protests antifa and arrest you, call you antifa and a terrorist, then hold you without trial indefinitely.
as if they arnt doing that already, he was already doing it since his first term. he just need more legitimacy in doing it.
Now he can target white people, though!
This person gets it!
That's not just deliberate, it's the point.
By keeping it vague while controlling the agencies and courts responsible for enforcing it, they can declare all resistance to be Antifa (like their media echo chamber already does) and thus terrorism.
This is literally criminalizing constitutionally protected dissent and then elevating the crime to terrorism.
Proof positive that he doesn't know how the law works, since funding a designated terrorist organization is already deemed a crime and thus investigated 🙄
There's actually no such thing, legally, as a domestic terrorist organization nor laws against funding them, only foreign. The authoritarians who wrote the law didn't expect the government to wipe its ass with the First Amendment so thoroughly.
But that's just regarding your second point. The administration will absolutely continue criminalizing constitutionally protected dissent.
one man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist
Sure, but outside of hyper–authoritarian government, no man's verbal or written dissent is terrorism.
So being Anti Fascist is now a terrorist org? Fuck you Trump , goddamn pedophile rapist. I say Trump administration as terrorist organization.
No, antifa. The organization that doesn’t exist ;)
Exactly so they can label anything or anyone antifa and use it as pretense to remove dissent without due process.
Where is ANTIFA?
When was the last time someone saw ANTIFA?
Who are ANTIFA's leaders?
Just another scare tactic to get terrified conservatives to fear an invisible boogeyman even more than they already do.
Also, let's be clear. ANTIFA stands for Anti-Fascist. In a nation not run by actual fascists, anti-fascism is a good thing.
Plus a vague label they can slap on anyone they don't like. It's pulling double dipshit duty.
This is far more than a scare tactic. Its a way to designate anyone who disagrees with the current regime to be legally designated as an enemy of the state and allow for dissidents to be arrested, held indefinitely, and tortured through legal loopholes(at least until they stop needing to actually follow any semblance of the law).
This is a major step towards trump consolidating his power and he's wanted it since his first term.
He is following the Nazi playbook to a T.
Come 2026, many of us will be arrested with no due process and put into concentration camps for using the 1st amendment. The dictatorship is here and republicans REFUSE to admit it because the fascist is on their side.
We have to make a decision in the next few months. Continue to work, be a member of society, and ignore what is happening. Or cause massive disruptions that will get change started.
Sadly, i don't think the majority of the population is willing to fight until they are in the bread line.
Once they are in the bread line they will be too focused in their immediate needs to fight.
In Trump's defence, this fascism started with the Patriot Act. He is just taking it to a whole new level.
the patriot act was cover for surveillance they were already doing on statesians, just legalizing the capabilities they had been developing and using extrajudicially on citizens.
Very well put. In the 80s, Romanians were lining up for rations. In 1989 the regime fell.
This is exactly the thing they are looking to come after. Stay safe
He's going to weaponize this to go after Sanders, Warren, AOC and the like.
..And we're continuing our march to 1930s Germany
EDIT: I wouldn't be surprised that he used this as an excuse to kick out all Democrats from government, just like evil mustache man did.
New nation incoming....
Continuing to march towards 1930s Germany? My guy, you are already in 1933s Germany, you've just arrived at the first steps of Gleichschaltung
Prominent figures are already talking about the need to proscribe the violent and dangerous Democratic party. The US is cooked.
Gonna be real with you chief, I think those are of the least concern with the recent advancements the American government has made towards becoming a single party state in the last few months. The Epstein files were the distraction, not the other way around.
I think the point I'm trying to make here is that if we, as a people, decide to hold all people accountable to the same standards (especially those meant to represent us), then unchecked power like this would not continue. The Epstein files are an easy way to convict Trump for acts he most likely has done. We simply have to hold him to it.
Well in this case I hope they can’t legally claim to not be fascist anymore.
Anti antifa = pro fascism
Is this admitting now that they are straight up fascists?
I doubt many of them even know that antifa is short for anti-fascist.
And even if they did find out, I highly doubt they would have the normal "are we the baddies" moment. They would rationalize it.
Then there is the proportion that are happy to be called fascists.
Let me fix the headline... Ahem.
Trump admits that he is pro-fascism.
ANTIFA is not an organization, it's a movement, an idea. Anybody who disapproves of fascism is ANTIFA, by definition, and are therefore now considered terrorists by this administration. This move is so that people can now be arrested, deported, detained, executed for speaking out against this administration. There are STILL people being held in Gitmo without trial because the state considered them terrorists. That's where we're at now with anybody who dares to speak out against Trump or joins a protest against this administration.
i doubt that
I get a weird feeling that Shatner might be on Epsteins list too.
I sure as hell hope not, but who the fuck knows anymore.
I dont care who is on the list. Left / right / other.
I just want to see the fucking list.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that it's an argument to keep the most hidden, I would 10000x rather know than not know. Ignorance isn't a defense.
Regardless of who is on the list, someone needs to release that shit.
I get the feeling that it will only be released in one of two ways:
Or 2. By the next government. Probably still somewhat redacted, but probably way less than what would be seen if Trump releases them.
In the first scenario, they'll probably run out of ink.....
Take that anti-fascists!
wait...
I designate Trump a Nazi.
hes pretty proud of it, even so much he kept nazi writings around his rooms.
I declare it!
Lmao this is the whole point -- right wing leaders (for now Trump, but also whatever shithead populists arise after him) can just slap the Antifa label on whoever they don't like, to justify whatever they want to do with them.
Not that different from the "terrorism" label in the early 2000s. Some people were shouting as loud as they could from as many rooftops as they could, that this label would eventually be used far more broadly than initially intended. Sure enough, look at us now. "Stopping terrorism" has been used to justify all manner of insanely not-OK shit.
I was actually shocked the NY judged dismissed the terrorism charges against Luigi, by citing that it didn't actually meet the real definition.
This is him outright stating he is a fascist.
Get ready everybody that opposes fascism, you are now a terrorist!
Is the organization in the room with us right now?
Let's rebrand as antipedo.
What's really bad about this is that the moment you are officially labelled by the government as a terrorist they can violate any rights you have
Which is exactly why it was a mistake to decide that human rights no longer apply to icky terrorists.
Which is why you shouldn't put a criminal fascist madman in charge of your country.
Antifa is so 2016 dude, it doesn't exist anymore.
It's another distraction for his base to not realize they are being screwed so royally by their daddy trump.
You can't just declare random people who hate Nazis a terrorist group and then ignore proud boys, the KKK, and MAGA.
You are completely wrong. Antifa always exists. Anyone that is against fascism is "antifa." It isn't an organization. It's ideology. Antifa = Freedom.
Antifa has no roster or structure. That’s why designating antifa a terror organization is such a powerful move: if you are opposed to Trump, you are antifa, and therfore a terrorist.
The War on Terror has come home.
It's funny that you are telling me that..
Put that energy into something better big guy.
You say that but that is what they are doing.
Who is going to stop them? There's nobody left. This shit will go from ugly and stupid to uglier and stupider. There is no bottom to this.
He just did. The rules mean less and less by the minute.
So when conservatives routinely go on shooting sprees they're mentally troubled, but when one MAGAt kills a hateful shitlord, it's antifa's fault. Makes sense.
Of course! Because, just like with Jan 6th, anytime they are put in a negative light because of their own crimes, it's an antifascist false flag operation!
and you wonder why actually "diagnosed" mentally people that are shooters, or terrorist are on the right.
Dear US frogs, the water is boiling. If you have the possibility to either leave or organize armed resistance, you should do it fast. Your window of opportunity is about to close.
Lifelong anti-gun libtard here. Currently in the process of arming myself.
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HOLY FUCKING SHIT IS THIS NOT BAD ENOUGH ON IT'S OWN?!!!!! THIS WILL LITERALLY BE USED TO LOCK UP REAL FUCKING PEOPLE IN THE FUTURE, YET THE ONLY LANGUAGE YOU CAN UNDERSTAND FOR OPPOSING HIM IS "HA HA, HE'S A PEDO."
I'm genuinely tired of people acting like this is some instant kill move. His friendship with Epstein is old news that is only relevant and salient now because some Trumpians are mad at him for other reasons. They recognize that Trump hasn't delivered what they wanted, but they lack the understanding and vocabulary to actually articulate the reasons for their anger. What they do understand is accusing people of being a pedo, and oh boy is Trump a certified Pedophile.
I understand memeing on him about it, and I often find it funny, but for the love of fuck, please stop acting like Trump's crimes against humanity are a distraction. Yes he personally abused kids in the past, but he's also systemically abusing kids right now for simply being born in the wrong country. It's fucking disgusts me when people do this.
I agree that this is equally important news and an incredibly dangerous turn of events, but let's not pretend that the president of the nation with the most powerful miltary in the world raping kids is no longer relevant.
I dunno man, he doesn't really follow through with the vast majority of the shit he says lately. I'm not worried about his words, I'm worried about his actions. The day he actually DOES something bad to someone and says he did it because "they're antifa" then I'll be concerned.
What a forward thinking point of view.
You're a fucking idiot if you think this is just a distraction
Just go away.
He is building the excuse he will use to declare Martial law the last year he is in office keep from having another election.
This is what he meant when he said "You will never need to vote again"
Here we are and yet 93.7% of people will keep denying it as they watch everything this country worked for burn to the ground.
I would not be surprised if trump ordered all Whitehouse bathrooms to use Constitution toilet paper since he shits all over our constitution daily anyway.
*Martial law...
Still true
Marshall's law
i think you mean Martial Law. only matter of time, things like variations of sha'ria law will be instituted.
There is no mechanism by which to cancel elections in the United States, even under martial law. We've had them during every major conflict in our history, including the first Civil War, we'll continue to have them, even if only in blue and purple states—even if we have to risk our lives for it. Remember, elections are the purview of the states, the only way he takes them away is if they give them away.
"He's going to declare martial law to cancel elections" is misinformation. Actually, no. No more benefit of the doubt. At this point it's disinformation. Please stop spreading it.
hes installing election deniers to manage the eleciton infrastructure.
That's an entirely separate issue.
No. It isn't.
Trump's schtick is to do things he's not allowed to do according to precedent. Domestic terrorism can't be prosecuted. He declares antifa domestic terrorists and promises to prosecute them and everyone who supports them. The US Military cannot be deployed on US territory. He does so anyway. Presidents can't get rich off the office while they're in the office. He's getting and has gotten stupid rich off of his office. And Presidents are not above the law, but with cover from his hand-picked supreme court, he is. What makes you think he won't deploy the military against Blue States trying to have elections and arrest anyone sent to remove him? Let's stop giving him cover and prepare for the worst, even as we hope for the best. That away, if he gets thrashed next year in the Midterms and then shown the door in 2028 (to both him and his hand-picked successor if he respects the 22nd Amendment....which is itself not a given), we can sigh a sigh of relief, but if he suspends elections, we're ready to fight him that day instead of taking a year and a half to gear up.
You do realize that Trump is a wuss, right? Again, the only way he can cancel elections is if the states allow him to. They won't. And when they refuse, he'll threaten to send the military and then wuss out like he always does. He has no mechanism for cancelling elections, and he doesn't have the stones to take them by force.
I hate the fact I have to come to terms with a world that wants me dead, I hate the fact I have to come to terms with abandoning nearly everything I own. I hate my life.
I’m going to make my stand here. They can come for me if they want to.
I’m not ready to die, I don’t want to die
And that's fine. Some of us are going to stay in the US and fight the good fight, just like antifa Germans did in the 1930s and 1940s. Others will punch out of this country and find a place where they can survive. Your circumstances will determine which path you take, and that's OK.
It's tough at first but it gets easier. If you move to a better place, you realize how much of a third world country the US is.
And the world doesn't want you dead. A minority of Americans do. The problem is that most Americans just don't care.
It’s a lot easier said than done, no country is currently accepting refugees from this shithole. It’s not easy to leave everyone you know and love behind. It’s not easy to have to pick what you can bring and if it’s possible to bring something else.
Projection, but I’m sure it will be another tool to abuse citizens.
Good luck with that. ANTIFA is an idea, not an organization. It's like criminalizing someone who says they are "spiritual," or "New Age."
The silver lining to this lunacy is that IF we ever regain control of America, we can use this precedent to declare MAGA to be a violent terrorist hate group, and prohibit it, and arrest anyone who tries to revive it.
That's the point, anyone can be part of Antifa. The Trumpie Regime can arrest anyone on bogus charges with bullshit evidence. EDIT: The lack of hierarchy and goals outside of being anti-fascist is what would allow Trumpie and Blondie to charge/kill anyone for being part of Antifa.
Protested at No Kings Rally? Antifa. Jail.
Said mean things about Trumpie? Antifa. Extrajudicial killing.
Made a Republican cry? Antifa. El Salvador Death Camp.
The US Public already green lit stripping rights away from terrorists was fine. The next will be drug smugglers and drug dealers. Then it will be the mental ill and hey look at that the Regime has been saying LGBT people are mental ill, better take their rights away. Homeless camps have a lot of crime and we should take away their rights. This just keeps going and going.
Trumpie is a giant walking piece of shit, who raped women and girls, committed numerous criminal offences, and actively corrupt. Trumpie should have been in prison a long time ago. Yet, Trumpie still deserves having rights. If you take away Trumpie's rights, you have demonstrated that rights are privileges. Guarantee, another government will find ways to expand the situation of removing Trumpie's rights to fit that government's agenda.
Centrists will make sure that never happens.
Maybe, but at the same time a Centrist arguably just added more holes to Charlie Kirk.
His steam handle was donaldtrump, and no progressive would want to be associated with that scumbag, even ironically.
The guy wasn't a Centrist. Frankly, we don't know what he is. The only information we get comes from Chameleon Patel's DOJ, which has negative credibility/ integrity. I literally don't believe a single word they announce. I assume literally EVERYTHING they say contains lies.
ooo i just thought up a "perfectly inoffensive" one
Just like democrats and Biden used the SCOTUS' ruling on presidential immunity to assassinate Trump?
Valid.
This is what is confusing the obese orange cunt, he has no idea what an idea is.
He's never had an idea, they've only ever been spoon fed to him by his cronies and, obviously, putin/russian handlers.
Up next, famous hacker 4chan and anonymous are now on FBI most wanted!
The hacker known as LMAO
In fairness we should probably consider this
LOL, the Nazis are just showing their true colors...if you are anti-antifa, what are you?
Fascist. They're saying the quiet part out loud now.
Honestly, seems pretty clear to me. It's a blank check for them to lock up anyone inconvenient. If you participate in a protest, talk trash about whoever happens to be the MAGA darling of the day, or do anything else they dislike, they can accuse you and/or the event of being associated with Antifa, and job done. Maybe it won't hold up in court (for now), but that's still a threat that will help to chill dissent.
Last time anti fascists were labeled as terrorists was during the 1940's in nazi occupied countries. So this is a strong message from Adolf Trump.
Also, most of all radicalized gun violence and terrorist attacks the past years have been from the radical right. But fuck facts and statistics, eh? You orange deranged muppet.
"Antifa lacks centralized structure or defined leadership"
That was literally my first thought: Is that even a thing? Is that even an organization?
No. Of course not. It's just another thing he'll use to put his opposition in prison. He's learned from his mentors, Putin and Xi.
He never learned "what NATO is" or "that healthcare is so hard", but he learned this. (Trump has said that when he started his first term he didn't know what NATO was and at one point he said "who would've thought healthcare would be so hard?")
I somehow missed the “healthcare is so hard” quote (or I forgot). Kind of like when Michael Bay was surprised that astronauts are scientists.
Still waiting on that ACA repeal…
So what terrorist attacks is antifa guilty of pulling off?
WW2, obviously 🙄
Psychological attacks in Nazis, even executions, and forcing them into a comfortable & respectful NASA and Pentagon jobs.
Also corruption of Nazi youth via education.
Mass destruction of aspiring paramilitaries' image of toughness.
They can use the state to Target anyone that fights back against these groups like The Proud boys and whatever, and they will become monsters targeting people with impunity while being protected by the state. Something they tried to do in 2020.
So Final Fantasy VII is basically happening. Got it.
Pretty sure he would've bankrupted Shinra Inc.
but without sephiroth or diamond weapon to balance things.
To a fascist government, anti-fascists are "terrorists". It was the same for partisans in nazifascist occupied Europe.
Epstein files. Yall terrorists to children.
In other words, Trump says that anyone who is against him, or worse, hurts his feelings with a quip, will be designated as a terrorist.
As anti-fascists are against fascists, and he says that they are against him, then he implies without doubt that he identifies as a fascist.
Is antifa even an actual organization?
i'm confident i've read this headline during his last administration, right before there was a wave of right wing terrorism
I am antifascist.
Antifa doesn't exist; it's not an "organization" at all.
That's what makes it so useful to them. If Antifa doesn’t exist, then they get to make it up. And that means they get to decide who's in it.
And of course, once they decide you're a member of Antifa, that makes you a suspected terrorist. And suspected terrorists don't get things like a right to a trial. Suspected terrorists get shipped off to Guantanamo. Oh but you're not actually a terrorist? How do you plan to prove that in court, if you don't have a right to a day in court?
All that shit that everyone let slide when it was being used to hunt AL Quaida or whatever; this is where it leads. Once you decide that certain people don't get human rights, all they have to do is expand the definition of certain people.
Sure it does. Whoever tries to run against MAGA in office is Antifa, for example. That's why they'll have to be thrown in jail.
I mean, it exists, but as an idea, a label of sorts. A movement, some would say, or a principle. But yeah, it isn't a specific organization that can be shut down. It's just there are some people who do some things that are anti-fascist, and by that virtue they "are" "Antifa". I'd argue that even that status is ephemeral.
I cannot stress enough the importance of watching what you say online. They will have an ai search every comment ever posted and identify a list of enemies of the state. I can absolutely see us headed to the point where anything negative ever said about dear leader will be grounds for arrest.
Advanced compliance won't save you. If they deem you undesirable they will manufacture content on your behalf.
To expand on that, I will borrow Timothy Snyder's words from his book "On Tyranny":
Do not obey in advance. Most of the power of authoritarianism is freely given. In times like these, individuals think ahead about what a more repressive government will want, and then offer themselves without being asked. A citizen who adapts in this way is teaching power what it can do.
Defend institutions. It is institutions that help us to preserve decency. They need our help as well. Do not speak of “our institutions” unless you make them yours by acting on their behalf. Institutions do not protect themselves. So choose an institution you care about and take its side.
Beware the one-party state. The parties that remade states and suppressed rivals were not omnipotent from the start. They exploited a historic moment to make political life impossible for their opponents. So support the multi-party system and defend the rules of democratic elections.
Take responsibility for the face of the world. The symbols of today enable the reality of tomorrow. Notice the swastikas and other signs of hate. Do not look away, and do not get used to them. Remove them yourself and set an example for others to do so.
Remember professional ethics. When political leaders set a negative example, professional commitments to just practice become important. It is hard to subvert a rule-of-law state without lawyers, or to hold show trials without judges. Authoritarians need obedient civil servants, and concentration camp directors seek businessmen interested in cheap labor.
Be wary of paramilitaries. When the men with guns who have always claimed to be against the system start wearing uniforms and marching around with torches and pictures of a Leader, the end is nigh. When the pro-leader paramilitary and the official police and military intermingle, the end has come.
Be reflective if you must be armed. If you carry a weapon in public service, God bless you and keep you. But know that evils of the past involved policemen and soldiers finding themselves, one day, doing irregular things. Be ready to say no.
Stand out. Someone has to. It is easy to follow along. It can feel strange to do or say something different. But without that unease, there is no freedom. Remember Rosa Parks. The moment you set an example, the spell of the status quo is broken, and others will follow.
Be kind to our language. Avoid pronouncing the phrases everyone else does. Think up your own way of speaking, even if only to convey that thing you think everyone is saying. Make an effort to separate yourself from the internet. Read books
Believe in truth. To abandon facts is to abandon freedom. If nothing is true, then no one can criticize power because there is no basis upon which to do so. If nothing is true, then all is spectacle. The biggest wallet pays for the most blinding lights.
Investigate. Figure things out for yourself. Spend more time with long articles. Subsidize investigative journalism by subscribing to print media. Realize that some of what is on the internet is there to harm you. Learn about sites that investigate propaganda campaigns (some of which come from abroad). Take responsibility for what you communicate to others.
Make eye contact and small talk. This is not just polite. It is part of being a citizen and a responsible member of society. It is also a way to stay in touch with your surroundings, break down social barriers, and understand whom you should and should not trust. If we enter a culture of denunciation, you will want to know the psychological landscape of your daily life.
Practice corporeal politics. Power wants your body softening in your chair and your emotions dissipating on the screen. Get outside. Put your body in unfamiliar places with unfamiliar people. Make new friends and march with them.
Establish a private life. Nastier rulers will use what they know about you to push you around. Scrub your computer of malware. Remember that email is skywriting. Consider using alternative forms of the Internet, or simply using it less. Have personal exchanges in person. For the same reason, resolve any legal trouble.
Contribute to good causes. Be active in organizations, political or not, that express your own view of life. Pick a charity or two and set up autopay.
Learn from peers in other countries. Keep up your friendships abroad, or make new friends abroad. The present difficulties in the United States are an element of a larger trend. And no country is going to find a solution by itself. Make sure you and your family have passports.
Listen for dangerous words. Be alert to the use of the words extremism and terrorism. Be alive to the fatal notions of emergency and exception. Be angry about the treacherous use of patriotic vocabulary.
Be calm when the unthinkable arrives. Modern tyranny is terror management. When the terrorist attack comes, remember that authoritarians exploit such events in order to consolidate power. Do not fall for it.
Be a patriot. Set a good example of what America means for the generations to come.
Be as courageous as you can. If none of us is prepared to die for freedom, then all of us will die under tyranny.
Well we're already at 18
Damn, that's true. Thank you, I needed to hear this today.
Yep.
This is our future because we were too stupid as a society to avoid it.
Make sure none of your social media points to your real name or phone number or address. If you aren't sure, scrub it and make new accounts. Get a VPN and use it always.
I'm using Tor over VPN, still too scared to say anything too serious, I'm watering down what I have to say so it doesn't contain any um... you know... I mean like I'm not gonna make a serious death threat over the internet, that's gonna make them put more resources into deanonymization.
Cowardice alone will not save you. There will always be further demands to erode your freedoms and your morals and ethics. Find where your line is now or they will continue to chip away at who you are and what you care about until you fit the mold they want you to.
No one ever protested their way out of fascism. No one ever voted their way out of fascism. It's a snake that has to eat itself. I will keep my footprint small and my head down. If I gotta bug out one day, so be it. If you REALLY want to make a difference- develop your critical thinking skills.
Why are you putting a VPN between yourself and TOR?
Being passive won't solve a fucking thing.
A pox on both your houses. I refuse to play this game. I'll vote but that's the best you're getting from me. Who rebuilt Germany? The survivors. I'll be here when it's over with a broom and a strong back.
lol. Who is in charge of antifa? Let’s bring the leader of antifa up here….
Any leadership on the left at all is now antifa. And all can now be arrested and vanished forever.
Publicly speak out against Trump? Now you get to go to gitmo.
Sounds like something the antifa boss would say...
My friend, it will be whomever they say it is. That's how this shit always works.
Is Antifa an actual organisation? I always thought of it as a vague lumping together of leftish people by ... well, by people like Trump.
Centrists are gonna keep throwing people under the bus to appease fascists.
Fuck you, orange pig.
Get your membership cards and souvenirs before they become illegal.
https://www.antifa.org/
Is it a coincidence that he's had this bright idea while visiting with Starmer? Maybe they had some nice chats about pensioners being arrested for having Palestine flags
For sure, our left center champion labour government that just locked down the internet making a masterbaiterbase of every page you have considered whacking off to connecting ip to id and likeness with ai in unsecure databases accessible by rich, polits, foreign intelligence, hackers, criminals, etc, illegalized protests and declared free speech terror, and everything else just sucked off prez and showed him the kinder gentler face of fascistic treachery.
Seriously, starmer is a pos. Labour is the enemy. Until the party is purged.
lol antifa, okay boomer. All the cool kids are sansfa now.
Antipedo
Maybe Antifa have the Epstein files
It kinda seems like the Kirk craze is actually successful in suppressing the topic.
If we keep talking about the Epstein list maybe they'll assassinate Shapiro too
Yo dawg I heard you like talking about the epstein list
Rebrand as Antipedo and see what he does.
Well, that's cool. Can we apply for asylum in Canada yet?
Canada still considers the USA a safe nation; refugees cannot enter Canada from the USA and apply for asylum.
It's not safe if you're a Democrat. We're about two steps away from Trump declaring the DNC to be enemies of the state.
Canada will not shelter terrorist designees from the us. Few countries would. None you would want to move to.
Can we also designate HYDRA while we're at it? And what about COBRA, from G.I. Joe?
It's best we're thorough if we're in the process of labeling fictitious organizations.
"Because the power of law enforcement under President Trump's leadership will be used to find you, will use to take away your money, take away your power, and if you've broken the law, to take away your freedom." -Stephen Miller
This is how they're going to prevent future elections. Any large left-wing donors can be labeled as supporters of terrorism and have their assets seized and be thrown in jail. Anybody who protests can be labeled a terrorist, anyone who says things on the Internet can be said to be 'supporting terrorism'.
After 9/11 we gave the government ridiculous domestic spying powers in order to catch terrorists and the mechanism that they built was described by Edward Snowden as turnkey totalitarianism. They've turned the key, labeled their political rivals as terrorists and are going to use the massive domestic spying tools in order to persecute and jail their political opponents.
Ahaha yes, good one, The Onion!
…wait…
Antifascists being labeled as terrorists before the KKK. lmfao i hate kkkrackers.
@HappySkullsplitter
There is no such organization!
The great thing about there being no organization is that they can just make up whomever they think would be convenient to be in such an organization.
ARREST STARMER AND LAMMY, War criminal, authoritarian, pandering orwellian pieces of shit. Ironically got so bad the conservative MPs, same people who got absolutely finessed by russian donors, lobbyists and spies started pushing back on pissraeli ties and weapon donations.
The labour party inherited the shittest govt of all time, and somehow decided to do an even worse job in only a year. Suppressing freedom of speech, passing the Orwellian online safety act, and using the dystopian terrorist act to arrest people for disagreeing with them with no due process, and doubling down on austerity, and also blaming migrants. All this shit is fuelling the far right and amplifying their racist voices 100x.
Hey Donald, welcome to Windsor Castle
We in UK are fucked. Labour is the best government we'll have for the next 20 years. This is only going down hill.
Bro are u high, they are literally worse than the late tory govt, which might've had the worse stinker any european govt has had since yugoslavia. We aren't a 2 party state unlike the states, the lib dems won a record 72 seats in the last election and Corbyn just founded his new Your Party. Lib Dems are the most promising established party in Parliament right now and Corbyn's Your Party is gaining traction and support due to the weight of Jezza's name.
I hope reform doesn't win, but my area is looking bleak. Too many at work are openly open reform. But you couldn't find a whiter area, so I guess that explains it.
Call me pessimistic, but I don't have faith in general public voting in their favour any time soon. Too easily manipulated.
What if Trump was the FBI informant who brought down Epstein then later had him killed? Would that make him the president of ANTIFA?
Look, mum, I'm a terrorist
Capital is fine with this.
Why wouldn’t he? It’s not like there’s any resistance.
Fash gonna fash.
He’s also cracking down on Bigfoot and the tooth fairy
All this because Orange man is afraid of releasing the Epstein files.
Looks at books, hmm...look at that 74.75 million people I need to designate as ANtifa.
This is a call for civil war.
not to mention nonvoters. pretty much anyone who didn't vote for him
As of I give a damn about what this illegitimate government thinks about me. Come and get me pussies!
Ok, now USA is officialy a nazi country. Nice to know.
Just rename themselves Constitutionalists.
"Thank you for your attention on this matter" is back on the menu
What a fucking dip shit. “Look, a distraction!”
Paraphrased: Man who terrorises minorities declares an organisation that's against such terrorism as terrorists
White Supremacists tried to assassinate him, twice, and he's terrified of Antifa for... reasons.
He's probably just using it as a blanket identification... And by antifa it will include many different organizations.
It will include whoever they don’t like
I suppose this will please MAGA, in spite of making no sense.
Has the same energy as Micheal from The Office screaming "I DECLARE BANKRUPTCY" except Micheal is the president and we're all fucked
At some point they have to run out of masks to take off you'd think
What does Antifa even mean?
Fa. Sci. Sm.
Pot calls kettle a black organization.
Of course Trump will declare ANTIFA a terrorist organization, any fascist would do that.
What a gigantic fucking asshole.
How about we get this changed to "Kamala Harris: I am pleased to inform our many real U.S.A. Patriots that I am designing MAGA, A SICK, DANGEROUS, RADICAL RIGHT DISASTER, AS A MAJOR TERRORIST ORGANIZATION. I will also be strongly recommending that those funding MAGA be thoroughly investigated in accordance with the highest legal standards and practices. Thank you for your attention to this matter!", which I think would sound a lot better here.
So next democratic president should sue Fox News, cut off access to all right wing propaganda sources, designate CPAC a terrorist organization, move Trumps portrait to the basement of the Whitehouse, encourage people to raid mar a Lago then pardon them afterwards.... You get the idea.
It's not ACTUALLY about Antifa:
"I will also be strongly recommending that those funding ANTIFA be thoroughly investigated in accordance with the highest legal standards and practices."
This is his excuse to go after George Soros based on the anti-Semitic lie that Soros is funding Antifa:
https://www.adl.org/resources/blog/soros-conspiracy-theories-and-protests-gateway-antisemitism
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/09/15/vance-white-house-promise-to-crack-down-on-radical-left-lunatics-00564766
https://www.reuters.com/article/world/fact-checkfalseclaims-about-george-soros-idUSKBN23P2X7/
I don't recall the last time I actually heard anything about antiFA..I didn't realize that was even still a thing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uLzZVSIo1U
Didn't he already do that in his last term? I still remember the jokes people made back then, like "how can it be a terrorist organization if it's not receiving weapons shipments from the US government!?"
Like nailing jelly to a wall or punching the shit out of smoke.
Right wing nutjob shoots right wing nutjob and this is obviously the fault of the left wing.
Is this something I'm too Canadian to understand?
Up next, Trump designates the Tooth Fairy, the Boogieman, Big Foot, and all left wing extremist influencers as terrorists.
That would be less dangerous. They can accuse pretty much anyone of being antifa...
They already do that.
Next he'll decree that human decency is a terrorist organization.
the more they use that word, the less meaning it has.
motherfucker is an existential threat to egalitarian society so naturally he goes after anyone that doesn't enthusiastically slobber his acorn
To bring some nuance here: many times "antifa" labels anything that's different as fascist without doing proper research. For example, people doing viking/medieval cosplay for fun. Not to say that antifa are terrorists, just to say usually they are oppressing people by false accusations in my experience.
Problem isn't Antifa, it's everyone else that ran the term into the ground. Nazi should be the worst insult imaginable. But we ruined it and they now used it against us. Soon they'll proudly call themselves Nazis to "sitck it to libs!" Zero irony.
maybe it happens sometimes but by and large no antifa doesn't label anything different as "fascist" from my experience