Former President Joe Biden diagnosed with 'aggressive' prostate cancer
Biden's office announced his illness Sunday afternoon.
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Countdown to Trump saying something deplorable. 10...9...8...
Damn, didn’t even get to finish the countdown.
Somehow I don’t think you are joking. 😢
I stomached looking at his truth social account so you don't have to:
I guess some pr person has his phone today. He'll probably say something stupid in an interview later.
I checked the Conservative subreddit to see what their reaction was and it’s pretty sympathetic. This made me laugh though
As if this isn’t the most basic norm of the presidency?
Has any other president trashed an ex presidents diagnosis (or something similar)?
Cancer doesn't care about ideology, but it sure seems like one ideology in the US cares about giving you cancer and denying treatment for it.
If cancer could vote, it would vote Republican.
You are an angel! Yes it’s written by an educated and classy person. Not him.
Yeah. Turns out he posted on twitter last night, less than three hours from the OP's countdown:
I should note that there is no such thing as stage five cancer, only 1-4. And Jill Biden's doctorate is in education.
I thought that was his son? Or did he retweet it?
Those were his words while retweeting something else.
Kinder response than half of Lemmy, even if he didn't write it.
Yeah the comments ITT are pretty awful. I'm no fan of Biden, but some of the comments here are depraved.
Aiding and abetting a genocide is depraved.
Going on national TV and lying about seeing "pictures of 40 beheaded babies" is depraved.
Celebrating when a war criminal gets prostate cancer? Not depraved at all in my opinion. He deserves much worse.
Agreed.
Agreed.
Agreed.
Hard disagree.
You can acknowledge that he's an awful person while refraining from celebrating his misfortune.
If someone deserves punishment, celebrating that punishment is basically just hatred. I might want to get that looked at.
lol yup no way t wrote that himself.
Yeah, there is absolutely no way he wrote that!
fuck, i prayed for this but it hit the wrong president
Watch your aim dude!
Ugh, first that kid only getting his ear and now THIS?
do better
This is why some religions point themselves before the praying starts.
Tbf, Trump's health is shrouded in so much subterfuge that you could have gotten the right president but we just don't know it.
I mean, given the fact that this affected Joe Biden up until this announcement, and no medical examiner announced it previously, it does seem plausible.
Naaa there are just two buttons and both of them can be pressed.
I would bungee jump on them.
biden is a scumbag, always has been pimp for lobbyist and aipac cancer. you murder kids for money this is what he should get and hopefully worse in afterlife.
Fuck these down voters.
No harm done
Yeah, he's not making it.
The guy's also 82, so it's not like he has a long road ahead of him regardless of this.
I've seen what chemo does to young, healthy people. Joe ain't that.
Feels like more of the same strategy of downplaying Biden’s symptoms. I bet when he dies they’ll deny it for a few days.
I don’t disagree that there is a strategy of downplaying not just Biden’s, but every politician’s health conditions.
I used to have this absolutely incredible writing professor, who, at 85, told us on the first day of class that he was dying, and had been for 4 years. He even had a blog about his reflections on mortality that he invited us to read. He had prostate cancer. I don’t remember the details, but they couldn’t operate to remove it or do chemo, but it was the kind that is hormone sensitive. They gave him a drug that destroyed his body’s ability to produce testosterone, so the cancer just stopped growing. He died at 90 - 9 years after his diagnosis. 10% extra life for him.
No two people and prognosis’ are alike but the possibility exists they might be telling the truth about managing it.
Some people just defy the odds sometimes, my grandpa was supposed to die 5 or 6 times before he finally did. Multiple times the doctors told us they could no longer do anything for him, only for him to recover and get into the same situation with another issue some years later.
He lived on borrowed time ever since my mom was born yet lived to see his first grand-grandchild born some 30+ years later.
Toward what end? I don't think you're thinking this through.
Evil conspiracy because of evil conspiracy, obviously.
Because his underlings have been downplaying his health issues for the last several years and that’s what they’re used to doing.
the form is still hormone sensitive so its treatable, to an extent, obvious with metasis is lower, but prostate usually have good prognosis, but that depends other factors.
much like breast cancers that are hormone sensitive, they are treatable, the ones that triple negative or the rare IBC those are very aggressive and they are not affected by anti-hormone therapy.
I heard recently it's incredibly common for men to get diagnosed with prostate cancer and then just die normally from something else. Likely the same happens with him
It should have happened to Trump. Not that Biden is a good guy, but it would be nice if Trump died of an ass related illness.
I'm not convinced Trump is healthy. I bet he has a plethora of health issues but the paid-off doctors aren't releasing the information.
It has already metastasized in his bones, so it's much more aggressive than most prostate cancers. After metastasizing there, the 5-year survival rate is about 33% with a median survival time of 21 months. But it's also very rare for it to have already spread elsewhere before being caught, so I'm assuming that means that this is even more aggressive than normal and that 21 months would be optimistic. But I'm not a medical professional, so I can't say how valid this assumption is.
Do you think Trump will just be cheezing. Do you think that the cheeseburger king could keep his mouth shut about it? Or will he just be so tacky? We are such a trashy country. It's so funny and scary.
yes, but for most of those men it's a cancer they die with, rather than one they die from.
its slow growing from what ive heard, but biden had a aggressive type, which would be different, since aggressive types usually have different mutations and genetics compared to the "slow growing ones". even with something like melanoma, there are more than one type: nodular, subungul,,,,etc. some cancers can be indentified by the type of gene mutations they have thats specific to that cancer
I know it's possible, but I also get the impression he's going to outlive all of us somehow.
It's that pesky top-of-the-line health care he has access to.
What if I stick my finger up my ass? Can I check it myself? Cause I just can't afford the doctor bill. I heard about the guy that took out his own appendix. I feel like this is a little bit less invasive and a little kinky. What do you think?
Both of them are going to be on the elevator down when their time comes.
Their only chance is in making something nearly impossible happen so that their destination is frozen over when they get there.
Now there's a phrasing...
Putting my hopes on infected hemorrhoids
He probably got a dirty ass.
With all the ass kissing his cabinet does, he's sure to get something. Probably why he stays away from MTG these days.
"Yoav Galant is a pretty good guy."
Why can't the current president get aggressive cancer? Everyone would love that (although I would pity the cancer).
It's going to be interesting to see how Trump will handle that state funeral
"Interesting" is a kind way to put that he's going to be horrific and make it all about himself.
"Put his body in a tank for my parade."
It would be kind of great if something were to steal the show on parade day.
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Lol
He'll overshadow it with another military parade
With all the best doctors the presidents have, they discover it only at the fourth stage?
I'm a lowly peasant and my work let me do a yearly blood+pee test, I assumed that for presidents it would be something like a weekly checkup
It’s likely that they knew a long time ago but they are just now announcing it. This would probably also explain why he was so mentally foggy or, seeming like he had dementia. Many cancer drug drugs can do that toyou.
If that's the case he was even more wrong about running than everyone assumed.
Somebody had to step up and save us from Bernie Sanders
Not even a funny joke.
When all the joy in life is gone, I'll take any joke that eeks just a little bit of dopamine out of my brain.
… yeah, I feel that bud.
I'd assume that played a huge role in him choosing to step down.
So glad he wanted to run for a second term then, especially after promising to be a one term president. /sarcasm
He never promised. We lost when he won the 2020 primary
I mean, Biden is quoted as calling it a campaign promise.
Which is is less binding than a pinky promise, but in 2024, he at least saw that he had made the commitment in 2020. Plenty of people in 2024 then were also incorrectly saying that Biden didn't make that promise.
I remember the promise and I also remember thinking "why the fuck are you even running if you won't for a second term"
Exactly; it was always a lie that couldn't be taken seriously
Compared to Trump winning? Which was the only viable other option during that term.
Viable!?! Given Biden only really won because of Covid, I think Bernie would've actually had a shot in the general, especially in energizing the base and working class. Warren could've also stood a better chance, even if she might not have done as great of a job in office.
Biden was the worst choice, I thought Buttigieg, Klobuchar, and especially Harris in 2020 were far better, but the capitalist elites wanted a weak old man, so we got Biden, dooming us for 2024 because there was no way he'd be selfless enough to step aside. He might've said he'd be one term, but he was lying and that's why no one took him seriously.
This was exactly my first thought.
And if so, that’s a double “fuck you” to Joe and everyone on his staff trying to keep this shit under wraps.
He should have just resigned the goddamn Presidency when he was first diagnosed JFC
Yeah if he was incapacitated because of drugs he should have let Kamala take over.
he had covid, at that time too.
That makes it worse not better...
cancers can grow very quickly in the short amount of time, only takes weeks for a tumor to grow large suddenly if its an aggressive type. also many cancers, like melanoma can spread with a small tumor extremely fast. the staging depends on how much its spread, and also by the biopsy how much it infilitrated the layers of tissues.
It could have developed between regular prostate
massagesexams.Stage 4 cancer with metastasis? Not gonna make it. No amount of money or power can stop a dead man walking.
But it does make ya wonder why he wanted to run for a second term. He probably won't make it to the end of the current administration.
He won't live long enough to see the major impact of slow rolling Trump's arrest.
I wish cancer got the other guy, but I feel no sympathy for an old racist who betrayed various words and didn't fight back against the fascist hard enough.
He’s 82, he’s not going to “make it” regardless
if you're going with "regardless", might as well add that none of us will "make it'. spoiler alert, we all die at the end.
I don’t believe you. /s
you're joking, but there are people like Peter Thiel who throw money into transhumanist nonsense specifically because he thinks he'll live forever thanks to that. cryonics, buckets of supplements, "enhanced games" as a non-FDA testing ground for immortality elixir for new emperor, and a couple of other things that i don't remember right now, all because he's so scared of dying
We don't know that. It's statistically likely, but it's possible that due to advances in technology, the first person to cure aging is already alive today.
We've also been talking about curing it for years and it hasn't happened, so maybe live your life like you're dying and be pleasantly surprised if we cure it.
Look at the average age of congress. Look at what Dianne Feinstein was doing at the end of her life. They don't want power. It's all automatic to them at this point. They don't know now to do anything else then grab and hold as much power as possible without any reason or purpose.
If he won a second term and died then somebody other than Vance and Musk would be running the show, at least.
Even while dying he's stilling participating in fundraising for the DNC.
He will be missed.
Yeah it seems fundraising is more important to the DNC than improving the country. But then again the people who pay big money to politics aren't happy with a better country. That would mean less wealth for them and more dignity fir everyone else.
Well the DNC platform was about fucking over anybody with more a than a million dollars in stocks and they still managed to out finance the fascist party (as long as you don't count buying out social media platforms and newspapers) so your comment seems really out of touch.
And yet none of that has ever happened regardless of how well the Dems do at the ballot box.
There it is! The reason people don't trust the dems. Complete ignorance of actual policy and history.
It's quite the opposite actually. Actual policy and history demonstrate that they absolutely do not follow through with their claims and promises. You seem to be ignorant of both of these while basing your opinion off the empty rhetoric they spout in the media.
Their most landmark legislation in the past 20 years was the ACA, which they passed when they held a supermajority in government and didn't need any Republican support, and yet they decided to drop single-payer in order to pass a Republican healthcare plan that cemented the private insurance model into law while increasing government subsidies to insurance companies meaning even more of our tax dollars are funneled into executive and shareholder pockets while people are still struggling to afford skyrocketing healthcare costs. They didn't need any Republican support (nor did they receive it) yet they still chose to screw the American people with this bill. How do you explain that?
They also just unanimously voted to pass an internet censorship bill along with all but two Republicans. Trump has stated that he will use this bill to silence his critics and every single Dem Representative voted in favor of it.
They also passed the Republican government spending bill which retroactively legalized all the illegal DOGE cuts they'd been making.
Maybe you should stop listening to the empty promises and virtue signaling and start looking at their actual actions. Modern Dems are to the right of Reagan even if they claim otherwise.
They had a 60 seat majority for like 8 months before Kennedy died. And as noted by other comments, one of those votes was a "no" if they tried to do any better.
But it was also partly a victim of Obama's early policy of negotiating with himself to try and appear bipartisan. It took him too long to realize the GOP isn't a good faith opposition party.
They held a supermajority WITH INDEPENDENT CAUCUS and one of those independents demanded they drop even the PUBLIC-OPTION version in order to pass any version of the bill.
Then the S.2073 bill you mentioned, it had 3 nay votes, 2 R and 1 D, and also 6 Not Voting 3 R and 3 D. It restricts very specific actions taken by companies targeting those of age 13 or younger, with a pretty massive list of exceptions. FULL TEXT HERE. It's actually pretty cool, IMO, it bans data gathering of the children, infinite scrolling feeds, personalized recommendations, notifications, or in-game purchases in the context of platforms targeting children of age 13 or younger.
It is interesting that the medical examination before and during his presidency should have included cancer examination? I thought it is common practice to do a test every 2 years or so..
That's no mystery. If there were primaries, someone to his left might win them.
There are already conspiracy theories going around that he kept his medical issues (dementia, cancer, etc) a closely guarded secret whilst running for re-election.
As for why I think Biden wanted to run for a second term, my guess is that his plan was to stand down and effectively proxy the United States' first female leader in that way. Harris would have otherwise been eviscerated in the primaries.
Dude, with the way Trump is handling things, the 2026 midterms and 2028 presidential elections are going to be about as Fair and Balanced™ as a Fox News broadcast.
Be kind, please.
They were being kind.
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No
These types of people are not really kind to poor brown Arabs. Go watch like cartoons or something.
So kind. I kindly ask him to die and rest in piss.
Thank goodness he lives in a country where the cancer hospitals haven't been bombed out of existence with weapons funded by the United States under the leadership of Joe Biden.
Would have changed nothing.
The left would have cried that whoever wasn't X enough, the right would have rallied around the Second Coming of their True Messiah.
The Russian playbook is now well-tuned to its audience, our morons.
When will the left learn that the president has to be pro genocide and have no plan to ease the upcoming financial suffering of young people. The left simply wants too much
When will the left learn that not voting against literal fascists leads to literal fascism where you can't say shit about genocide without being sent to El Salvador?
Liberals need to learn that voting for do-nothing-democrats lead to worsening conditions for the country's poor which strengthens the base for fascist support.
Sending billions in weapons to an ethnostate committing genocide counts as fascist. There was no voting against fascism in the last election.
You're never going to be allowed to vote against this regime. You need to do something else.
The real problem was the Democratic party making tactically poor move after tactically poor move. They were too obsessed with imperial support of Israel to do the right thing for US interests and the voters. They were too "anti-communist" to consider not banning TikTok and alienating younger voters. They were willing to cede the narrative to the right constantly. They refused to give the left any progressive policy goals to chew on despite us yelling about how much all of this would fuck with turnout.
For the past 2 years, they thought corporate ads and ultraconservative libs would win the election, when that wasn't what helped them in the midterms, hasn't been the playbook in decades, and was just what let them hang out with their "good ole Republican friends" who they really wish they could ally with like in the 90s. It was a load of interpersonal bullshit, purposefully engineered by the ruling class to ensure the Democratic leadership would never sacrifice capitalism for liberal democracy's sake.
I'm tired and disgusted of this "blame the left" narrative, especially since plenty of liberals could tell that this was the Democrat's biggest issue for quite a while. They never did anything to address it because the fix wasn't easy. They went with the easy solution and expected voters to pick up the slack. That's not how electoral politics works; Lazy, irresponsible bastards
The last time I voted and did what the liberal told me to do. I elected a president who committed genocide. This whole back and forth with this is just very frustrating because if you really break it all down how the United States is set up, how our electoral processes work, I mean the power of the executive branch nowadays we're not really a democracy. Corporations have captured our government. There's this lady who is a exCIA analyst and she has a book called How Civil War Start and How to Stop Them. Her name is Barbara Walters. She refers to the United States as not a democracy. She is more successful and smarter than me and you.
Joe didn't commit genocide, but he did provide the ability and protection for the genociders, which is honestly worse in some ways. America wasn't a proper democracy; mostly a liberal empire where people have no say beyond if they get burnt, or thrown into hell.
The local level was where we could've built democracy this entire time, but building up that way for the long game is difficult and wouldn't have delivered the material changes very quickly. The executive was ensured it would become a dictatorship because the legislature was so incapable of doing basic maintenance thanks to the ever increasing push by the right to achieve anarcho-capitalism at the cost of the very empire that gave liberalism its power.
The capitalists were a bunch of gremlins in an imperial machine who didn't know how good they had it. Some get to do what they want now, but they're losing more power than they realize, as now America won't be the big bad empire it was when they started. Many have assumed it's capitalism that's the monolithic evil of history, but if you really look at the realities of the past, if you really look at the realities of America and the USSR, you'll realize that capitalism was always but a minor force. Empires are the greatest evil in human history, not that Capitalism is better, but it just can't reach the same level.
this is exactly the garbage a israeli or superpac bot will say. why does the blue maga never whine about ultrarich and aipac ? they influence our elections a million times more than anything else. warren was going to be vp and would have been president today if superpacs wouldn’t have forced their puppet harris on us who got destroyed in the primaries. and aipac, lol we all know saying anything other than israel is the true messiah is the death of any politician carrier or even an actual death.
Oh right I almost forgot that the standard for president of the United States means not fucking everything up, not acturally doing anything good. Forgive me for expecting anything from the corrupt corporate elites or the superpacs that fund them. Im sure another four years of incompetent Democratic rule where they do absolutely nothing will really convince the American people not to vote far right. It worked for Carter, Clinton, Obama and Biden.
The American public is pretty stupid. I'll give you that. But I think we also give too much credit to Russia. All capitalist countries Fuck with elections. But I think it's the politicians that pay Russian elements to do their nefarious operations. The world of computer hacking is a mixture of supposed good guys and criminals. It's a great market and the people that have the most access to this is people with money and who have power. The lines are truly blurred.
No, everything bad that happens in the US is the fault of Russia. They are the most powerful country on Earth and the puppet masters control everything behind the scenes!
Do you think you're blameless? Do you think you're innocent?
Do you?
Yep but who are they going to bring in? Another Democrat puppet
Biden has cancer, what's Trump's excuse? 😕
Trump IS the cancer
he is the personification of mcdonalds cancer.
Lucky for him he’ll get the best medical treatment on the planet. Meanwhile if I broke a leg I’d be destitute
Why tf do Americans reward America with their skills and education? The captain of your sinking country is throwing citizens overboard, and you remain in line? Move!?
“Move?!”
You make it sound like moving houses. Just pack your shit and drive off. Most countries don’t want us, especially if someone wasn’t born lucky enough to be able to go to college, and has some formal education. Even if that was easy, it’s fucking EXPENSIVE. thousands of dollars. A lot of us are barely getting by, and a lot more don’t have the luxury of spending thousands to go to another country. And all that, to move to a place where you won’t have citizenship without lots of work, and hell, If facism takes over that country I’ll get kicked out. Not to mention leaving my entire family behind.
All this assumes I’m moving to an English speaking country, otherwise I’ll have a language barrier at the same time I’m trying to rebuild my entire existence in a new place with unfamiliar culture.
There’s probably so much more. It’s not impossible, but for me it’s not feasible at this time. I desperately wish it was.
Edit: sorry if I came off as a dick here, it’s just frustrating seeing the thing I want so bad (to leave) simplified so much. Especially if you didn’t grow up here.
and to add, most countries accepting immigrants from the USA, they only want people with PHD in stems. most people dont have one. since a very small group of college graduates even go to grad school anyways.
Says Who? Where are you trying to go, Norway? Sweden? This is like abusive spouse language, like nobody wants you, nobody loves you. You're lucky I love you. I know people with PhDs and they're dumber than fucking shit. And what do you mean accepting? If you get a work visa and then you find a employer that wants to keep you. They usually can expedite this process. I've seen some of the most useless dumb motherfuckers in the world succeed.
America is pretty much the only country in the world that has ever accepted the tired, the poor, and the huddled masses.
No other country will accept a bunch of poor anyones with no money, bad health, and no unique and valuable skills. Not in any significant numbers that matter, at least.
and thousands? moving to another country would take hundreds of thousands, minimum. The paperwork alone for moving to, and getting citizenship in the destination country would probably require a hundred thousand alone, between lawyers and paperwork, not to mention probably a year minimum of time. Assuming you would even get that far to begin with, given Americas reputation on the world stage at the moment. It'd probably be treated as well as Russians wanting to immigrate.
Hell, even moving to another state is an expense most americans can not afford. Especially with the absurdity of rent prices being, in some places, as much as monthy minimum wage is, if not higher. Not to mention buying grossly price-inflated properties if you want to go the ownership route... anything that would be affordable will probably still need massive amounts of work to repair and make suitable for habitation.
S'why it pisses me off every time when some ignorant dumbass just goes " well if you don't like it, move! ", cause I can imagine everyone that says that probably has rich parents that have funded their every whim, because how else can just up and moving at a whim be possible for the average person?
OH MY GOD THANK YOU! So many people don't get that when you're in a shitty red state it's REALLY REALLY hard to get out because someone making California wages has absolute way more than we do. Sure, they're broke as shit there because the prices are high, and that sucks, but then if you're coming from Missouri to California, the phrase "fucked" doesn't even begin to cover it.
It's telling that I say I clawed my way out of Arkansas and Missouri was my "better"
No more Only fans, no more energy drinks, no more video games. You can do it. Make it your life's mission. Learn a language. You don't have to be perfect just familiar. Maybe brush up on some mathematics. Shit. You could do for a little bit of time, teach English as a second language. And yet it's somewhat of a scam. You could like put your ear to the ground and ask other people what they're doing. If you're young. And even if you're not, who gives a shit. I mean like, are you trying to have a white picket fence and a wife you hate? A job you hate, a culture you hate. Oh that's right, no one can afford a house. Never mind. I mean fuck this place, you can do it. I call it Operation FTP. Fuck this place. It's a deep undercover mission that could last many years. But you will complete that mission.
I feel you, I've gone through similar problems but from the other side of the world. In case if you need advice:
Consider eastern europe. From what I know, you'll have 3 months-visa free, that's more than enough to find a job in a big city even without any kind of connections. All you need is moving expenses and a few months of rent, and you'll have a very good chances of getting into some kind of residency program (do research your options in advance)
The language barrier will be a thing, but english will get you into many doors if you choose a big city. You can work on your language afterwards.
You'll fail a lot, it will be very stressful, you will be outsider in the eyes of many, but trust me your chances are much bigger than some people I know that have done a similar thing and succeeded. And after you succeed (and you will, if you try and don't give up) the understanding that government's power over you is not absolute will stay with you forever.
All that said: I'm not saying you need to leave. I'm just saying that you can.
Hell yeah, listen to this person. They know what they're talking about.
I feel you.
I'm in Australia. If we turned fascist I would want to move but the logistics of doing that are very challenging.
Well, we're all capitalist countries and fascism is just capitalism in crisis. Populism comes to rise in failing economies that do not prepare for the future.. I think the real issue is Quality of life and violence, we in America are constantly exposed to anti-social behavior, homelessness and guns. Within the past like I don't know three years. I've been around three incidents with a firearm I had nothing to do with it, but I was in danger. I just think about all the nonsense that goes on in America and just all I can think about is me possibly having to pay a medical bill. I am a low-risk individual who is incredibly non-committal, subscription-free kind of individual.
once it starts happening to you, you know, you start to realize that we're not in Kansas anymore.
Don't give up. You can still do it. I don't think the foreigners hate you. The hate the ones that can do it so easily. I believe in you.
I think there are still quite a few people who are above casual racism, so you might be wrong.
Well, the real issue is flooding refugees in Europe was an attempt to bleed the social services because the Yankee is trying to destroy Europe's social safety net via Imperialist Ambitions. Through nefarious tactics, the neo-liberals actually do a tango with the other parties playing the public and getting them to fight with each other and blame it on immigrants instead of mismanagement and corruption. it makes the usa look bad and it's never more obvious than when the United States cut the gas line from Russia to Germany. The Yankee is a bad friend. And you are a short-sighted racist. It's not about being politically correct. It's about understanding the class war and not being an idiot. Trump is such a moron. He is making it so Europe at least the people to despise the American government, which in a way is a good thing because it's not in their best interest to side with us. And part of the reason why Europe doesn't want our meat is because they got their own goddamn meat. And so when we force them to use our weapons, they just say, well, we'll build our own weapons. And once again, we'll be less needed.
I am trying to talk my husband into moving. I can probably land the job in the EU I am interviewing for, but he does NOT want to move. He doesn't want to leave the small amount of community we have. He doesn't want to overreact in fear to this administration. He doesn't want to give up our home and our lifestyle (the EU pays substantially less across many industries). Our parents are getting older and sicker; it's hard to move abroad when you know there's probably only a handful of years left with them, especially when you have children.
I think the Internet discounts how difficult it can be to uproot.
How good is your marriage? You only have one life. I might leave his ass. The kids will be more well-rounded. Life is a journey. Fuck and live it, lady.
I was trying to present his concerns as being relatable; I don't think he's unreasonable.
Marriage is pretty good. He's a good partner, a very moral person, and a great, involved father.
I think I'd rather die in a concentration camp than break up my family... At least, if I knew my kids would be okay. I don't think it's likely I'd be able to take my kids overseas with me if I left him over it anyway.
Skills and education? Most Americans have neither of those things. We are a disposable people and that’s exactly what the corporate slaveowners want. We can’t escape because we are less valuable to other countries which means it’s easier to exploit us. What are we going to do about it, kill our masters? That’s not nice.
Hahahahahahaha... you sound like one of our republicans.
I work as a biomed, a sector of repairing medical equipment that is a sought after career field, desperately needed. Been doing it for five years, and I like to think I'm damn good at my job.
I also only have an associates degree.
There are not many countries that will take me with only that associates degree. It's like I tell conservatives who do the "Don't like it, move", being from the US isn't some special wonderful status that gets us open doors into other countries. Other countries don't want us like the Republicans don't want foreigners from other countries, unless they're wealthy.
Biomed isn't really a sought after career. Most people outside of the medical community don't even know it exists. The last hospital I worked at was starting a teenage volunteer program and surveyed high school and college kids. 60% thought only doctors and nurses worked at hospitals.
By sought after I mean the hospitals searching for us. As you say, my hospital is bringing in high schoolers to intern because the industry basically has no pipeline for workers because most of the old guard are still there but retiring and/or dying off so suddenly there's a massive lack in a very tiny pool caused by it basically not being advertised until very recently.
Outside of a few essentially third world countries that I could save up a few grand and bribe my way into, there really aren't any countries that are too keen on accepting Usians for citizenship. You might have better luck if you have a doctorate and speak the local language fluently.
I had a buddy that expatriated to South Korea years ago to teach English, but I think last time I checked in he was still juggling work visas and had no real chance of being a citizen.
I could be wrong though, I haven't checked in on him in a while.
I'm working on my plan.
What are these comments? You people are vile.
Who's misusing the Monkey Paw for wishes? Be specific next time!
God, thats fucking terrible. We put him through the riger the last couple years & now this? This is the worst timeline.
I don't know about you, but I wanted him to stop working when he was 74 and enjoy the rest of his life with his family like people should be allowed to do much younger than that, not start working again at 78.
I have absolutely no guilt over what happened at the tail end of his presidency, I tried to keep him from being in that position at all.
Everyone except big money donors wanted him to retire literal decades ago...
No one forced him to keep going, we had to fight him to stop well past it was time.
Like, you don't think Joe Biden first and last "primary" being 40 years apart isnt a good thing?
Someone that wasn't born till five years after his first run could have ran against him in his last.
The guy won once.
I hope your dad lives a long healthy life. Biden's already lived a long one.
This comment section shows that even on decentralized, less mainstream platforms there's a lot of people behaving similarly to what would be called bots on Reddit. Come on, guys, we can do better than this.
We can acknowledge Joe Biden's crimes and failures without cheering his sickness and wishing him a painful death. Same with Donald Trump and all the other scummy politicians.
We can also disagree about various policies, issues or parties while treating each other with respect and an open mind, instead of degrading all discussion to 'communism vs capitalism' or 'democracy vs fascism' arguments.
I know it can be difficult to remain civil towards government officials who are essentially criminals, and anyone who supports or seems to support them in any capacity. However, I personally think we should try.
Maybe I'm cynical but I feel like this is suspicious timing to release this information a day after videos of his memory issues in 2023 surfaced. Feels like a cynical attempt by his PR team to change the narrative.
In all honesty, an 82 year old man having prostate cancer is not very surprising. It is a personal issue and I have sympathy but it's frankly not important to the world. A US president with memory issues concealed from voters and his own party in 2023 when it could have seriously changed decisions about the Democratic party nominations is surprising. That is an issue for everyone and very important to the world.
Biden's PR team trying to change the topic about his health and his track record? Unheard of!
But yeah it's not a shock an old man has a form of cancer that affects men more as they age.
Shame Trump hasn't had something similar.
It's not just Biden s team. Its the entire media consent apparatus build around the DNC that was responsible for Biden being around as long as he was.
They're all culpable.
And then people were mad about "why are they talking about Biden when Trump is unhealthy?!"
Maybe we don't want either unhealthy presidents, and only one side would listen to public outcry, and the other wouldn't listen.
God damn, America is just fucked. Actual criticism was called unfair, and actual evidence of documented crimes of domestic and abroad was considered things paid for by $BAD_NATION.
I am a bit salty that one of my favorite people on .world was banned from this community due to a mod getting mad at them refusing to support genocide and proving they voted for Harris.Wishing him all the best. I have seen quite a few men die to that disease (no one dies of prostate cancer but it spreads really fast and to really bad places).
Good luck Biden.
This is sad. Taking into account of how he was treated by the DNC and how 2024 went down, this is just the shit cherry on the shit sundae.
Thanks, Obama. /s
This morning while driving to work I heard on NPR that doctors recommend screenings for people between 50 and 60 years of age. The guy said that older people like 70's and 80's have more problems and I missed exactly what the reasoning other than aggravating them with one more problem was for not screening that group actively.
But you and I know. Its simple! 50 and 60 year olds are still working do they got money. 80 year olds don't have money. No reason to screen them. Sure the treatments work...kinda sorta. But the treatments are expensive. So if you're 80 its not important that they find your cancer because they can't make money from you. If you're well to do, then sure, we can try our methods. But if you got no money, there's no point. What are you going to do anyway with no job and no money. Even if you could pay, then what? Sell the car and house and live on the streets? Would that be worse? Not really the doctors don't care if they got paid. Its all about the money.
Well I mean having that disgusting drumpf crawling up your ass daily just seems like it would cause cancer...
I wonder how the reaction here would be if trump had this happen to him instead. Fuck being polite about awful people.
What I find so annoying is how there are so many people (outside of this platform) who are just shocked and devastated about this news. I am over here like...the man is in his eighties. He is an elderly man. We should not be that surprised about some illness popping up at that age.
When a genocidal war criminal gets a horrific terminal cancer, it is certainly cause for celebration.
Oh shit...
I always love the cognitive dissonance people have seeing others hope that a man directly responsible for a metric ton of civilian deaths, succumbing to a painful death, is not ethically correct.
I mean people seem to have zero issue with United Healthcare. Exorbitant Healthcare costs is the equivalent of death, but literally bombing hospitals and refugee camps isn't?
Not to mention that he'll be receiving the latest and greatest in medical aid anyway, so there's a fair chance he'll survive. A lot of geriatric asshat world leaders contracted covid and still lived.
I can't even tell if this is DNC shilling because several people have implied they would treat Trump the same. Wth kind of moral compass are yall following lol?
Remember the "putin is going mad because he has cancer" headlines?
God had mercy on this genocidal war criminal by giving him a portion of his punishment on earth
Yeah, thats okay I guess.
I wish him ease of his suffering in direct proportion to how much he eased innocent Palestinians suffering. Seems only fair.
Prepare yourself for femboy biden!
No one can say he wasnt a consequential president. Maybe not good consequences, but definitely consequences.
Bye, then!
As usual, old fuckers don't have to live with the consequences of their (in)actions.
Who fuckin cares
Human being has deadly cancer. Comments section: politics politics politics. I hope he dies in pain. Should have done more.
You should all be ashamed of yourselves.
Soon he'll be stopping black kids from getting education in Heaven 😊
He wasn't against minority education...
He was for "separate but equal". Legitimately, that was his stance.
And when that was mostly the result, he labeled them "super predators" and just fucked their shit up with the disparite sentencing in the 92 crime bill he authored.
Few politicians outside the Republican party have fucked over the poor and minorities more than Biden has.
He deserves worse for his support of genocide
Someone play hangman with me.
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Nice.
Genocide Joe
Has got to go.
Well at least that definitely puts a stop to any misguided second term ambitions.
Pretty fucking classless dude 👎
You know what's really classless? Biden sending billions in weapons to a country committing genocide. Also the crime bill. Don't forget about making student loan non-dischargable through bankruptcy, creating the student loan crisis. We have Biden to thank for all these "classy" acts, plus him being so starved for power that he dropped out too late and gave an advantage to the trump campaign.
I don't mind. It's true and important for the future of everyone. Biden's fucking around at the beginning of the last election cycle helped getting the current authoritarian who ignores the constitutional separation of powers elected. I also wish the shooter had hit, that's also classless. The personal fates of these two old dudes are almost insignificant compared to their effects on the world, and I think accordingly.
This guy ... https://youtu.be/dbn4i7_CFIM
Perpetrator is more accurate.
I don't have empathy for genocidal war criminals. Fuck Cancer tho.
This is the real correct response tbh.
This guy wanted another term this time last year.
[Edit] Oh, and some of you all thought it was a good idea. Lol.
You can't really predict stage 4 cancer in your life plans, but it was clear to anyone paying attention that he was not fit for the office anymore.
Still would have voted his ticket over a fascist megalomaniac.
This also may explain some of the cognitive stuff being so acute in the last year.
Voters needed more than that because it's so hard to believe that the death of the American was a vote away. They couldn't comprehend the existential horrors of fascism when the suffering of liberalism was already untenable. Things were way worse than most wanted to admit, and only now that things are unprecedented will they feel a harsher plunge into the nightmare future we were already destined for.
The world is gonna be unstable compared to the past 80 years for quite a while, and empires will once again trump capitalism as the greatest evil the world has to offer. We might see nuclear war, mass famine, disasters with no organized relief. We will see climate catastrophe, horrendous pollution, regular violence, and an end of safety for everyone on earth. Not even the ultra rich will be safe, as their wealth is meaningless without a state. Protecting it yourself with violence is a far worse deal for your own safety, as now you're competing with other feudal lords as well. No real winning anymore.
I’d rather him over Trump especially with Harris as his VP.
I'd vote for Biden's prostate cancer as Pres over Trump
He's still a total dumbass not to have accepted his fate as a one term president from the get-go, dip and give the Democrats the usual amount of time to choose a successor rather than the truncated run Harris made.
He probably would have won the second term too because he’s white and not a woman.
yup, he just dropped out too late in the game.
He's a modern day Buchanan
Bro.
A chihuahua on crystal meth would do a better job than Trump.
A coma patient who doesn't wake up would do a better job than Trump.
I would say that The Devil would do a better job than Trump, but that's kind of like trying to divide by zero.
I'm satanic and so I've got it on good authority that he'd do a damn fine job. Plus free cover to his club, full nudity is permitted, full public sex is encouraged. Main talking points are all that other stuff like saving humanity, body autonomy, protection for marginalized people... and the club access and sex...
Does Trump's plan include any of this? I rest my case. :P
Okay I'm interest in the club sex and nudity stuff. But don't know its all the other stuff that I worry about.
the devil (the first archangel)is actually smart, compared to trump.
A sixth grader is smart compared to Trump.
I'd still take a dying Biden over this shit show, are you kidding me?
Did he, or did his team take advantage of a doddering, senile old man because they wanted to keep their cushy jobs?
With the release of his interviews over having classified materials it's clear to me that he wasn't making his own decisions and if he thought he was still competent and capable that's because the people around him were lying to him and telling he was. He was clearly at a point where he could no longer accurately assess those kind of things about himself, and was thus relying on outside input. When that outside input is enabling the idea that he is competent, that's not the fault of a man on the edge of senility.
Leave
BrittanyBiden alone, especially now that he is likely to die from a horrific disease. Blame this on the correct parties, those around him enabling the idea that he needed to run again, which were his aides who didn't want to lose their cushy positions.Translation:
Did his team try use America's racism and sexism to protect America from the consequences of its rampant racism and sexism?
I'm fine with that, the other side doesn't mind cheating.
No he just wanted to beat 45, he wanted his VP to be president, cause she was a carbon copy establishment Dem that would protect the status quo, why do you think she didnt change any major platform positions when she took over? Cause it was already her campaign.
Is Trump handling the gaza war better right now?
To conservatives, "handling" a region where the population is a different skin color and religion is removing it. So—if you asked Trump's supporters, you would get an enthusiastic "yes" as a response.
That's not the point.
Who the fuck talked about trump in this post? Why do we always need to say “oh yes but Hitler was worse” Yea, no shit sherlock. God damn.
Dude, even I don't hate him that much.
Ahh the self proclaimed Zionist. 19b to bomb Palestine. Karma came back to say hello.
I'm sure you're really tired up about the fascism rolling out now
So you're happy about the fascism because it's what you wanted then? Cool, awesome now keep spreading the word and pretending trump isn't way worse on the GeNoCiDe
You suckers for propaganda still blaming Biden for Israel, but never the Congress that approved foreign aid to Israel, never the Republicans who this very moment are trying to remove the Palestinians from Gaza…. Cool, keep harping on that and ignore whatever the fuck Trump & Co. are doing to this nation. And to Gaza…
Why not both? Plus, he could have condemned backing isreal, regardless of what congress voted to do.
Because it's never both. I could count on one hand the times I seen people on lemmy call Trump a genocide supporting megalomaniac and I'd still have enough fingers to count to 5.
People call him out everyday. What you dont see is people defending him.
They also seem to think the conflict/occupation started October 7
Biden had the same foreign policies towards Israel as every president before him but the progressives decided it was too much now… and we’re still waiting for them to do something.
also because MSM were constantly putting it on blast to derail his chances of a 2nd term, mind you the msms are owned by conservatives so they have an agenda against him.
It's always been one of many reasons progressives stand apart from centrists, but are you really so tone-deaf that you can't see why it might have become particularly relevant during Biden's presidency?
And how, exactly, are the progressives supposed to do something when the Democratic Party puts more resources into beating down progressives than it does Republicans?
This comment betrays the absolute inhumanity of the Democratic Party. "Why do you give a shit about other humans, and why don't you do something about it with the zero power we've allowed you to have?" What a horrific position to take.
Yes, arming a genocidal state while knowing explicitly what those weapons are being used for is too much. Why are only the progressives against genocide?
Single issue voters, no matter how morally complicated that issue is, always end up with blinders on to everything else.
Things are worse in Palestine then they’ve ever been, Ukraine is being wiped off the map and the states is tearing themselves apart but I guess the progressives can rest easy knowing they directly or indirectly voted for this.
What issues are defendable if genocide isnt one? Shouldnt we be mad at the political party that actually made it their platform.
Sucks that he's dying but nothing was stopping him from telling Israel "No". When all your voters unanimously dont want genocide, you're just a dick for still running it anyways. The wishes of a foreign genocidal state shouldnt come before the american people.
He and most of the party fucked us over, not the voters.
Great!
Trump literally aided a dozen other genocides since being elected:
Ukraine, Gaza, all the countries that USAID was trying to help, ditto for UNHRC and WHO.
Not voting against Trump is supporting all those genocides, well done.
I voted for Harris but their job is to win elections and help the population, not help Israels dead baby machine.
They screwed us over so Israel could keep killing without worry, and I'm not ready to pat them on the back and tell them it was the voters fault and not theirs.
This conversation is like talking to an anti-abortionist with them thinking they won the conversation because you agree with killing babies…
Great way to ignore everything I said.
I don't understand what is so rewarding with bootlicking a party that made genocide part of their fundamental values and tried their hardest to give Trump the election.
They had a choice, you or genocide, and they chose genocide.
Russians found America's greatest weakness:
Most of us are pathetic whiners who will use any excuse to not actually do something meaningful.
Give them a chance to whine online, they'll put up with LITERAL fascism.
They used the exact same techniques to steer the GOP towards their evil dixiecrat core.
It's genocide lmao, kind of the best excuse you can find.
Shame the dems cared so little about their voters that they chose to give Russia such an easy win. At least Israel got to kill a bunch of civilians. Hope it was worth it.
Really fun that I'm supposed to get mad at voters that cant stomach genocide of all things, and not the pro-genocide party masquerading as good guys.
I've been saying this since November 5th, but this argument is completely meaningless unless the other choice was against genocide. And hey guess how Gaza is doing right now?
So, you realize Trump is 10x Biden/Harris or really anyone else when it comes to genocides?
Not just Gaza, but Ukraine, cancelling USAID, WHO, and generally destabilizing the planet.
Trump is the bigger problem, put a stake through his heart and then move on.
Or be happy being sent to El Salvador for even speaking out about Gaza.
You may have forgotten Biden broke US law by going around Congress to provide arms to Israel...
https://apnews.com/article/us-israel-gaza-arms-hamas-bypass-congress-1dc77f20aac4a797df6a2338b677da4f
Or maybe you never knew?
Of course I blame all of those people too, what the hell are you talking about? They should all be tried and hanged in a Super Nuremberg. The only tragedy in Joe Biden's cancer is that he won't live to face justice for the atrocities he committed over his long and comfortable life. I have hope that all the monsters in congress and both party apparatuses will hang one day.
Y’all “blame” Congress and Trump and Republicans only in passing when called out on it. Otherwise it’s the “Democrats” fault with no further mention of anyone else who could be complicit. The rest of us notice.
Both parties are wrong for enabling genocide. I wont defend either of them. Both need to stop and distance themselves from any genocidal states.
You probably see a discrepancy in comments about it because its mostly reactive commenting to people actually defending democrats for their stance. Everyone is in agreement that Trump is helping Israel commit genocide but with the democrats, there is always a scapegoat to point the finger at.
You "blame" the Republicans so much you never once commented about their involvement in Israel until now, when you are called out on it.
This is a thread about genocide Joe, why would they go off on a tangent about Republicans here of all places?
Do you condemn Israel?
Genocide Joe is a fine nickname and all, where's the nickname for Trump?
This is a thread about "leftists" who blame Biden for Israel aid but never say a word about Congress who actually has the role and responsibility to create and vote on the aid.
The person I am replying to claims he also blames the right for these things, but not once in his comment history has he ever called them out like he calls out the left.
I have never called out "the left" in my comment history. Democrats are not leftists. They are a center-right liberal party that are currently collaborating with a fascist coup (as a large portion of liberals always do). I shit talk Democrats more here because the people I'm most likely to encounter are people, such as yourself, who somehow still support them. Basically everyone here already agrees that the Republicans are fascists attempting a coup.
Edit: Actually it's not even true that I haven't called out Republicans. A comment on the first page of my comment history is calling for fascist Fox news propagandists to be tried and shot lmao
Thanks for backing up my point: All complaints to Biden, nothing to Congress or Trump. Even if Biden tried to cut funding to Israel, Congress would have overridden him.
Literally the opposite happened...
https://apnews.com/article/us-israel-gaza-arms-hamas-bypass-congress-1dc77f20aac4a797df6a2338b677da4f
Congress didn't want to because there was evidence US arms were being used in the genocide.
Biden violated the Leahy Law by personally going around Congress and "selling" bombs to Israel.
You're spreading blatant revisionism about recent events all over, even when people inform you. So it's really looking like intentional misinformation on your part.
Do you think this “genocide” would have kicked off without the Hamas attack?