The small scale of Lemmy's active user base is never more evident than in the absence of active members in all the sports related communities.
Its rhe only thing I wish could change about my experience using Lemmy, for more active users in the communities like NFL or NHL and the affiliated team pages of those sports. I haven't had any social media in decades, my main source for sporting news breaks up until 1-2 years ago was Reddit.
I love the small community that makes up Lemmy. As someone just posted, it feels like a small town community. I like the absence of corporate shills and ads and bots.
Back when I switched from Reddit to Lemmmy, I made an effort to upvote and comment on the NFL and Buffalo Bills communities. I eventually gave up because it was like months of posting, voting and commenting but when I would go back to check the communities, everything would still be sitting at like 2 up votes and 0 comment replies or if it was my own post, 1 upvote and 0 comments. For a majority of cases. Every once in a blue moon I would come accross a post where another user voted or commented but it was never more than me and one other user.
I know there is a certain demographic that uses Lemmy that is mostly driven by the required IT prowess needed to set up, use and even understand the federated concept. I also recognize that this demographic is traditionally disinterested in sports. Im not complaining about this or the users who are on Lemmy. Im also not wishing for any changes be made to aggressively expand Lemmy's user base. Its just an impractical wish I have so I could get my sports news from the same source I get all my other news.
I will prolly spend more time this coming year settling on a 2ndary source for sports news from sources similar to sleeper app but it would be so nice if the Lemmy sporting communities blew up so I could keep everything aggregated to one source.
You know, Lemmy is powered by the users. The sports community will never grow if no one is here to grow it. Most people that jumped ship to build and grow Lemmy are techies, and likely not interested in sports all that much.
You just planted the seed, will you also be a watering can?
We are in at the ground level of Lemmy. A lot of people like OP are passive consumers, but now is the time to step up, get out of your comfort zone and start building the communities you want to see. You might have to hustle a little bit
If you do start up a community you can link it like this:
![email protected]
Here's a totally random community about strength and hypertrophy training for example
Nah, I'm just gonna do what I'm doing. Commenting on stuff I like or am interested in and that's it. I'm way too anti-social to do something like building a community.
you dont have to be social or even reply to commenters lol
For real? Im replying to almost every comment I get a notification, I made this post, I've commented on NFL posts among other comments in non-sports comms. How you guna just blindly call me a passive consumer lol? Not hating just couldn't believe you coulld draw that conclusion while I felt I was borderline spamming the thread with replies hahah 🍻cheers tho, to your commitment to motivating any and all users to be more active.🍻
Gotta give props to active participation, upvotes, comments are helping too, you're right. I was just focussed on community building, it might not be as fun but it's important also
Thanks for that link! I was almost gonna start one myself. Gonna try that one instead, at least for a while.
Passive consumers make up the largest number; the base of the pyramid. But you seem to be implying that there's nothing between that and the tip of the pyramid, who create their own communities and post their own content into them.
OP seems to be a user in the middle. Happy to contribute to ongoing conversations by commenting, replying, and voting, but not as comfortable starting conversations. Which, to be honest, is also where I'm at with sport threads. I used to love popping in to a live game discussion megathread to comment on a particularly outrageous call, or to see the community's response to something controversial. But it's not a subject area I'm invested in enough to start the community myself, or to make enough comments to help start a lively-looking megathread.
This is so dismissive.
I spent a full year posting to ![email protected] and interaction there is still minimal to dead.
It's not really the starting of communities that needs help. We need more people to be the second and third person to join and help communities that someone else is trying to start.
The problem there might be that people hate league of legends
Eh, the community is huge on Reddit so clearly the fans exist (and I'm one but just took a big social media break for awhile so that didn't help). Lemmy just needs more people with more diverse interests.
It's all the complaint deserves
Sounds like you need to let your sports-liking associates elsewhere know about the platform to help with your problem, rather than whinge that the already existing userbase doesn't like what you do
I didn't claim it would be easy or even a guaranteed success
This 100%, it's even harder when someone puts a posting bot in a sub and expects people to show up. The best communities started by someone creating a sub and posting things they found interesting. Treating it like a personal link archive. Then people would add to the discussion after finding you. If you are posting for a few weeks and then just gives up. It just makes the problem worse. Since now people have to sift through a bunch of dead communities on multiple instances all named the same.
It has to be built organically it's like people with video channels on YouTube or peer tube. Making your first video and if it doesn't do well they quit. Most successful creators made tons of videos before they took off. They kept at it because they were making the videos for themselves for just the sake of self expression as their first priority and the views will come.
This is kind of a problem in the NFL Community actually. There's one user, I don't know if it's a bot or not, who just shotguns like 10 to 15 post at a time. It washes out any discussion in the entire community.
Yep people like that that use bots or worse AI to auto post think they are helping but are just bring the dead internet theory to reality.
I've noticed a couple of users doing this in the Music community recently, as well.
If it's a bot, fuck the owner. If it's a real person, chill the fuck out dude. Don't bust a nut so quickly, it'll be more fun that way I swear.
That pattern is 100% bots getting the posts from an RSS feed and it’s set to only refresh every x hours.
When it does and it has 15 new stories, it rapidly posts 15 times.
When those clog up my all feed, instant block. So it’s really having the opposite effect that the bot owner intends.
The shitty thing is that half the time they’re not even marked as bot accounts.
Well yeah I understand why bots are used for posting to communities, but at the same time it does have this effect of making people tip-toe around and hesitant to post themselves
Reddit was relatively niche, Lemmy even more so. Who the fuck do you think is gonna be here!?
Not sure if agreeing with me, but yea that's pretty much what I was getting at.
Reddit was niche, but I don't think so anymore. Fidelity bank, Logitech, Microsoft, and many many more have official accounts and support subs on there, and have for many years.
Yeah, that's fair. I think Lemmy will continue to remain niche for the foreseeable future...
Considering Mastodon has been around for a while, but people still flocked to another corporate-structured platform after Twitter, yea. It probably will never not be niche.
Im not implying there is a lack of content just a lack of active users to fuel discussions. I leave a comment on every NFL post that I have some input or opinion on. Like I said to another comment in this thread there seems to either be a bot or a dedicated mod who is periodically supplying content in batches of posts. So maybe once a week or so (maybe once a month in the off seadon) the same user name will make a bunch of posts for all the news for that week.
Dude make an NHL community and I'm in
Lol there already is one. Just search NFL.
They said NHL lol
Hahahaha I totally meant to say NHL but I might be wrong now that I think about, it might be called hockey. Ill have to double check and will edit my NFL comment to include a link to the hockey sub.
Did you see that ludicrous display last night?
What was Wenger thinking, sending Walcott on that early?
The thing about Arsenal is they always try to walk it in.
Well, there ya go.
(The original site, vectorbelly, is not loading for me, but fortunately I found this backup)
We tried our best but we couldn't stop them and they outplayed us now we're looking forward to next week and we're not going to focus on this loss our defense just needs to make more stops and our offense needs to put more points on the board we've got such a great group of guys and this loss is going to make us work harder and we'll see if we can't get a win next week
We just gotta go out there and give it 10000000000% guys!
I did not. What'd I miss?
These are all nerds who don't follow sportball most likely. They are quoting the TV show "The IT Crowd" where the main characters pretend to know about sports.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gWJIQm9qH-w
Every time someone talks sport I think of this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f27IqVo5-Oc
![email protected] is very active
When are the owls gonna play sportsball?
Hoot hoot, hike!
Hmmmmmm is it tho, WHO would be active there and WHO would only wanna talk about one game once a year? Lol im just assuming its a community dedicated to owls.
It's pretty active with Superb Owls, just like you'd expect!
What's this one-time sports game you're talkin' about?
And all I want is to never see sports related communities. So I guess I win there...
Unfortunately I also never want to see anything that mentions anime or manga and in that department it's serious whackamole for me.
So learn how to fuckin filter and subscribe to take control of your feed and go piss and moan in those threads.
I can and I do. Its easy enough to block simple angry fuckers like you one at a time. Thanks for volunteering to sit down and shut up in my feed.
As an outsider looking in with only this thread for context. I feel like you're gazing into the mirror a bit there and also need to chill.
Whatever you say man :).
I don't do "turn the other cheek" on the internet, but you can if you like. I prefer to deliver a pique and block; it doesn't raise my blood pressure any, but hopefully there's a lingering rankle for anyone who doesn't have anything nice to say and can't keep their emotions in check. A little sprinkle of sand in the old underoos if you will.
I'm just saying that in this thread you seem to be the "angry fucker" you describe, rather than the other way around.
If you say so.
👍🏿
It does feel like a small town. Most small towns don't have pro sports teams, though.
Oh shit this reminds me of a discussion I had on here a while ago when I found out there are only 40,000 daily active users on average and realizing that it was less than half of th capacity of highmark stadium. So yeah, Lemmy does have that small town vibe but its more of a small geographic community like, for example, New England or Western New York. I can go to any Bills game with 80,000 other fans and I can take a piss or grab a beer without running into someone I know. Its exactly the same with Lemmy too.
Lemmy is full of a bunch of older neckbeards, based on my observations. (Inclusive of me)
This is just one narrow view on things, tho.
The Lemmy user base tilts alternative (queer, neurodiverse, subculturally niche, politically leftist beyond the mainstream centre-left and such), whereas sports fandom is coded aggressively mainstream, as part of what it means to pass the normality tests, so there’d be fewer sports fans than in a randomly chosen population. Maybe if there’s an influx of normies here, the sports forums will fill out.
That's just ignorant. There are plenty of people in those demographics you listed who are very active fantasy football and fantasy sports in general fans.
Hey if you want to join me on [email protected] this season. The few of us that contribute would love it.
Fuck yeah!
You're the only ignoramus here.
Watching idiots bash their heads against each other or chase after a ball is what a dog would do.
You realize that athletes are exceptionally intelligent in different ways than people pecking at a keyboard all day, right?
Athletes are not dumb. Take a look at a football playbook. You going to remember all of that, be able to recall it, and then also know all the audible changes to a play that you have to make? Are you able to make split second decisions for 60 minutes while wearing knives on your feet like a hockey player? Do you have the hand eye coordination to hit a 94 mile per hour fast ball, but know that the pitcher you're facing also has a 35% chance to throw an 82 mph sinker?
Acting like you have one kind of intelligence and shitting on people who have different kinds of intelligence just makes you look like you're jealous.
Bet you every penny you ever made that I could do it in one quarter of the time that most of the pros do it. There's a reason they have the training season.
Lmao. Sure thing bud.
Jesus christ, im sorry that I brought up fucking sports. I had no idea it would piss so many people off. Its not like I did it in a tech focused community. I have befriended other sports fans from all walks of life, so to say "x,y,z people dont like sports" to me is ignorant as fuck. Sorry I triggered you and I promise I will never make another comment or post regarding anything sports related ever again.
Dude. Sports is literally everywhere. It doesn't need to reach its greedy tendrils into yet another corner of society.
I'm not a sports guy, I'm pretty anti-sports actually (I can go on absolutely unhinged TED talks about how the local teams are trying to drain the city for taxes... I want to continue, so feel free to ask but not doing it here.) But I agree with you on the niche hobbies and local flavor.
I still have to use Reddit because there hasn't been a good community for local on Lemmy (yes, I know everyone going "it's user generated" but I'm like 1 of 5 instead of the hundreds still on reddit) and small hobbies in a lot of the crafting world is non-existent on Lemmy.
I don't have an answer on this one, just sucks. It's the trouble of being one of the first ones in the door.
So this is the type of discussion I was hoping for. I honestly didn't even mean to trigger so many people by bringing up sports when the whole showerthought started cuz I missed my local team's subreddit.
Don't even get me started, we are in the same paddle boat when it comes to the ownership and the league's use of tax payer dollars. The fucking Bills just set some sort of record I think for the new stadium they built by the belligerently small amount of money the owners are going to be contributing. The fuckin thing is costing billions and its just about entirely funded by 2 channels from the same source, the people of our our community. 1 channel is thru taxes and the other is thru some PPE shit where if you want to buy season tickets you need to give them like $40,000 as a one time fee into of the season ticket cost and also commit to like 10 seasons to even be able to buy a season ticket.
I know your reply will be "then why are you a fan still" so ill bashfully explain why in one word, community. The WNY community is my favorite part of the greater Buffalo/Niagara region and being apart of Billsmafia is such a huge part of it. We've never been a champion, until 5 years ago there were no bandwagons of fans looking to become Bills fans, its something you are just born into here. We put up with 8 ft snow storms, 17 years of missing the playoffs, losing 4 super bowls in a row, Damar Hamlin going into a freak occurrence of cardiac arrest and needing 10 mins of CPR to survive, and thats just the big stuff. At the end of the day tho, it forms a bond in the community like I've never seen anywhere else. When Josh's Allen's grandmother died, Billsmafia raised millions of dollars for his charity which came in $17 increments (his jersey number), now today there is an entire wing at Oshea's Children's Hospital dedicated to his grandmother's name all funded by fans and member of the community. When we got dumped on with 6 ft of snow in 2 days, Bills players drover around house to house in skidsters plowing out people's driveways. When Andy Dalton beat the Ravens against all odds and made it so the Bills would go to the playoffs breaking a 17 year long drought, Andy isnt even a Buffall Bills player he plays for Cincinnati but that didn't stop Billsmafia from raising hundreds of thousands if not over a million dollars for Andy's charity.
The idiots who own teams and run the league can get fucked, ill never argue against that but the men and women within each and every organization who have their boots on the ground, they are all amazing humans busting their ass off to make theirs and our community the best they possibly can.
Oh I get it completely. There's a bunch of subreddits I miss, my industry I work in which is very niche, leatherworking, heck even the motorcycle community in Lemmy is... lacking.
On the other part you brought in... OH BOY! Unhinged TED talk time.
So I live relatively close to the Royals and the Chiefs stadiums. John Sherman, gas magnate, the owner of the Royals decided he wanted to move the stadium to downtown, where things have been picking up. Specifically he wanted it in the Crossroads where there's a lot of local community shops and everything, because he wanted it near Power and Light district where there's bars and the like which... oh right, he owns a lot of. Troubles came up that the stadium proposals took foooooooorever to even come up, looked like it was drawn on a napkin instead of anything serious, and wanted a tax levy to be put on the city to continue one that still hasn't been paid off for the last time the two stadiums were built. The whole time saying "Look how the stadiums bring business in!"... the area around the two stadiums have managed to keep a Denny's and a Taco Bell alive, the big resort hotel couldn't even survive. Yea... real great for business.
Another trouble is... as I say, I am one of those who actively detests sports... I wish I could find the post, there's an old Reddit post describing what not liking sports was like and used archeology in how it invades everything around you so it's easy to go from "I couldn't care less" to "Okay, I hate this thing now. It is insufferable." I say all that to say, just paying any attention to the news I knew at the time the Royals was the second worst team in the MLB, they were that bad. So they knew they couldn't get this move off the ground so they went to the Chiefs who was the most recent superbowl winner which of course was happy to get money their way, and the ad campaign went out. And despite the Royals/Sherman being the push on getting this going, it was all Chiefs all the time. I literally even got a flier in my mail "The liberals are trying to take away our teams!" paid for by the team push, so yay politics even drug in. The whole time threatening "Well if you don't vote it in, we'll move. Maybe to Kansas (right over the border) or hey, even Tennessee." Thing is, the state remembers St. Louis on the other side had the rams, built them a stadium and whoopsiedoodle they packed up and moved to California leaving a city with a stadium and fuck all to do with it.
So we've got all sorts of issue in state and local level, but holy fuck all the political pressure since the voters turned down the tax is "How can we keep these teams in Missouri!" And it's funny, I said I'd be more okay paying for it if we got ANYTHING out of it... I don't mind paying taxes to keep our zoo going and it's nice I get a hefty discount when I go, but the Royals and Chiefs are giving a nice hearty "go fuck yourself" for us paying taxes so the billionaires have their teams.
On to the "Why are you a fan?" question you brought up. I don't question it... but I've never understood it. I grew up in Arkansas that never had a pro team so college sports was big... I got to hear the "calling the hogs" my entire life and never comprehended the why. Probably because dad was not a sports guy and had the opinion "Why do I want to watch people play a game?" even though he played in high school and I've been pretty much the same. I get the community stuff, and that's fantastic. I've just found a community outside of sports so it doesn't resound to me. The reason I've become so against sports beyond it's completely impossible to ignore it it's so inundated in culture, is the sheer amount of money that goes into it in all levels. High school, if you're one of the "football" schools, your school only has 3-4 sports, all the big stadium ticket getting team sports, the smaller less prestigious schools get more sports like wrestling and the like... guess which situation I ended up in? And watching schools dump money into the sports above all other things like theater, labs, etc. "But it brings in money for the school." Cool cool... so why are we getting asked for a tax levy so the school can build yet another stadium? Repeat this for the college level so the "Hogs can have a proper place to play!" and now the city with pro teams level. And I hear the ticket prices and think I wouldn't pay those prices to see my favorite band... and again, those ticket prices and yet we have to pay for their shit?
Yeah, I try to engage on the sports posts because there isn’t much going on in these comms. But I’m hopeful we can get some growth eventually
Maybe making a sports related instance could help with making it more attractive to the fans. Or ask your favorite sports team to create an instance
forum.sparta.czor something and it's a lemmy instance.There’s fanaticus.social already; it’s just not heavily used because nerds generally aren’t huge sports fans.
I like to pretend that all the Lemmy communities have a unique participants but in really it is just the same people on the same few communities.
I also feel like we need some Lemmy specific lingo. Reddit has subs I wonder what Lemmy has. Communities is just to long to type out.
People refer to them as coms or comms.
Commies! Oh, wait.
Lemmy moment
Theres lots of those here.
It takes time to adjust to that
Coming from Reddit I was used to that level of crow anonymously and here people be remembering what you said in that other posts.
I have find out that since noticing that I tend to be more careful with what I post.
what about subs? lemmy subs
The Philadelphia ones identify as hoagies.
Connecticut will identify as grinders
Is there a sub for subs on grinder?
I'm actually down to call them that
There's a comm on lemmynsfw, if you're interested in subs.
Did y'all think I meant the sexy kind of subs?
Intentional misunderstanding for comedic purposes. "Sub" doesn't have meaning on Lemmy, any more than it would on an old school phpBB forum. It's a reddit naming convention.
Ah, i see
Which is what I find odd because every gamer and nerd I know is also interested in sports or at the very least interested in fantasy sports leagues. Might just be my area tho where the whole community and all walks of life get together to watch the Bills and Sabres play.
Does anyone else feel like these national leagues have become just as disconnected from reality as any other hyper capitalist enterprise?
I want more hometown sports. I daydream about leagues funded by local communities, starring local talent, with smaller local crowds. Is there anyone else out there who would give much more of a shit if things were a little more close to home, reality-wise? Am I alone?
Guys getting paid literally hundreds of millions to play a sport is unrelatable. A local star making $300k and being a part of the community feels better to me. Seems like we should be able to afford a lot of those for the money we are spending.
I know next to nothing about sports or the business around them, but I know I remember summer nights with cheap hotdogs and minor league ball that seem to have evaporated as the wealthy accumulated. 🤷♂️
There are still lots of minor leagues and they still serve cheap hotdogs tbh
That's just a byproduct of how popular and in demand sports are for people to consume.
And here's the kicker. For their worth, athletes are still underpaid for what they bring in the owners.
But that's by definition true of any employee under capitalism, isn't it?
Or are you saying that the percentage of the value they bring their owners that they see in pay is significantly lower than it is for other types of workers?
It's significantly lower than other types of workers.
There are less than 1700 players in the NFL for all the teams. The NFLs revenue for last year was 24 billion dollars.
Total salaries for the NFL is like 5.x billion dollars, and in addition to that, the players are the sole revenue generating force in the league.
So yeah, even at their insane salaries they're still underpaid!
Is any of the broadcast stuff done by them, or is 100% of that done by other companies?
Refs are absolutely essential to a sporting league. As are coaches. Other positions are certainly important, but I think those I've named are essential enough to the direct revenue generation to merit a mention
Total total salaries, or total player salaries? Because if it's the former, that can only make your claim stronger. If it's the latter, well, it's hard to say. One would have to figure out roughly how much they make to see the NFL's overall salary costs and compare it to other businesses.
That said, the stats you've given mean about 20% of revenue goes to salary. This random website which happens to be the first to come up when I search for "what percentage of business's revenue are spent on salary" suggests 20% is pretty much par for the course. That would seem to imply that footballers in the NFL are being ripped off roughly equal to the average worker, depending on the factors in the previous paragraph.
Are people going to watch the refs? They sure as hell aren't getting paid the big bucks, most of them do it part time.
Coaches make money, but again, it's a fraction of total revenue.
I find it funny you're literally attacking 'the workers' in this case, just because it's athletes and not traditional workers.
I find it funny that you can take my attempt to engage in good-faith conversation and twist it in such a lazy and poorly-informed way.
And by "funny", I mean disappointing. Be better.
Yeah; I've had that thought a lot the last few years. Especially where the team is based around people from the area so your team are actually representative of who you're cheering for.
I'm not remotely social enough to make the connections to start anything like that, though.
The western new york community is just a large scale hometown community. Prolly where Buffalo got the name city of neighbors. I get what you are saying but I dont watch many national sports coverage media, im just looking for a source for news breaks from people like Rappaport, amd Schefter. As for publications i generally stick to The Athletic and our local WGR550. Im definitely not interested in watching any of the ESPN shows for the same reasons I bathing you outlined.
With pros, it's just whichever fucker can get paid enough to bring them here. I don't give a shit about their playing. I only watch because it's someone I know, so I can go congratulate them later. Otherwise, I'd much rather be playing the damn game. The highest I'll go is high school level sports. Those kids are still a part of my community. I know their parents, I probably know them.
Maybe, maaaaaybe, I'd watch other local adults play, but only if they're my friends. It would be much better to just have more participation in adult leagues within the community. I'd play a thousand times against others in my area, getting my ass kicked if the good fellas join together, before I'd watch a game with people I don't know.
Thankfully our ![email protected] community is semi-active. Obviously not as much as r/nba, but we do have active mods and game day threads.
As a sports fan (NHL, NFL, NBA, ATP) I feel lucky to have a bunch of sports fan coworkers. We talk sports and joke around at work all day.
I do wish the sports communities on lemmy were more active. It seems like lemmy’s left-wing community does not have very many sports fans.
Leftists usually love sports for supporting other cultures but hate commercial teams and sponsorhips. Enes Kanter was banned from NBA for talking about human rights as example.
Also most sports fans on lemmy are into computers too since it takes some messing around to setup so that might be why those communities are always big.
I am heavily into Atli Cirit and archery, martial arts look fun to watch too. But why would I search for those communities when I know there is a huge programming community that I can simply join.
It’s just been my experience that a lot of athletes and a lot of sports fans tend to be more right wing and that a lot of leftists don’t like sports at all, even when there are no pro teams involved (pickup leagues etc).
Is that your experience per se, or have most of the leftists you've seen been nerds, and you're just noticing the much more well-documented trend of nerds disliking sport?
Personally I happen to be the kind of nerd who loves sport. My favourites are triathlon (and its constituent sports) and HEMA, but I also like professional spectator sports cricket and rugby league.
HEMA's a bit of an odd one since it tends to attract nerds more than people who are fans of more traditional sports. When I skip training to watch a big game of league, I definitely get light-hearted but at least somewhat sincere "sportsball" comments from regulars who like doing HEMA but aren't interested in other "normal" sports. But my other sporting interests are far more conventional. This, while being a software engineer by trade, and also having more nerdy hobbies like D&D (actually, even nerdier: I play Pathfinder these days), real-time strategy games, and...well, being on Lemmy.
I did qualify my entire comment with:
So yes. And most of the nerds I’ve met lean right, not left. The leftists I’ve met tended to study the Arts (English, sociology, history, etc) whereas the right wing types all studied math, engineering, computer science.
I do know a pair of right-leaning philosophy students though they claim to feel like outliers in a program that’s an outlier (the other way) at a school that’s mostly STEM programs.
Sure, maybe. I'll point out that there's a known statistical trend of more highly-educated people being more left-leaning, but I'll leave that discussion there, because it's not actually the point.
I didn't actually say anything about nerds being leftists. I said that nerds are anti-sport. And that Lemmy is made up of nerds. Both of which, I hope, are not controversial statements. Not that Lemmy is made up of a representative cross-sample of nerds, but that of the users who are on Lemmy, most are nerds. My conjecture is that the reason you see a dislike for sport on Lemmy is not because Lemmings are left-wing, but because they're nerds. And that if you were to control for political belief, Lemmy would still have a stronger anti-sport bias than the general public. While if you controlled for "nerdiness", Lemmy's anti-sport bias would be relatively weaker. Not an easy experiment to perform in practice, unfortunately.
I think even if you exclude all nerds, you’ll find that sports fans lean right. Nerds, left or right, tend to be anti-sport, though that’s basically by definition (a nerd being a person whose hobbies skew intellectual rather than physical).
That’s not the only way to define a nerd however. Another definition I’ve heard is based on the level of obsessiveness a person has with their hobby. In that world I would consider most of the biggest sports fans to be nerds. Think about how much time they spend looking at stats, talking about strategies, trades, drafts, listening to radio and podcasts, etc. All of that is very much in common with how video game nerds engage with their interest.
I consider myself a nerd who loves both sports and video games (RPGs, Roguelikes, fighting games, RTS). However unlike many sports fans and athletes, I’m not religious or superstitious. I think that latter group correlates with being right-wing (perhaps even more so than education).
pffffffffffffffft, those aren't even nerdy. Those are like bringing kraft cheddar to a fancy cheese party and saying you're a connoisseur. Let me know when you want to break out the real nerd braggadocio and start in on the fan-made white wolf spinoffs, or the burning wheel good times.
;)
Damn. I did buy a copy of V5 back before the pandemic because someone was going to start up a game that I was pretty excited to be in. Unfortunately that went by the wayside and I've so far never gotten to play any World of Darkness games.
The nichest RPG I've played was probably "End of the World", where the premise is you play as yourself, arriving at your regular RPG night, and just as you get started, the apocalypse starts. Awesome premise. Fucking terrible mechanics. Do not recommend that system.
Actually, that's not quite true. I did once play a home-made system someone else at my table created. But it wasn't particularly inspired in my opinion, and didn't do anything very interesting you couldn't do with a little tweaking of PbtA.
d20 fantasy is my main thing that I keep returning to, but I've had plenty of other RPG experience ;)
Alright, I give you the nerd credit. I'm just depressed because I found out there was a group starting a game in my theater troupe, but they'd capped it at 5 and I was too late. I'd even take D&D right now.
The end of the world sounds fun. I'd bet it would be a blast to throw that wrench in 'session zero' of a fate game (which is my personal favorite, even the prometheus and werewolf games don't match up).
Yeah the premise of it really is. Our starting inventories were literally whatever we brought with us, plus whatever happens to be in the host's house. The conceit we went with was that the person who's gonna be GM is just "running late" when the apocalypse starts. It was just let down by some disappointing character stat generation methods and mechanics that weren't very good.
Personally I have no love for sports but my partner does we are both quite far left so I don't think that really has anything to do with it.
HAHA SPORTSBALL GUYS.
! DAE HANDEGG????1
PLEASE CLAP
Yeah but did you try Linux
Did you have a stroke?
You certainly seem like you've had a few brain clots.
My bad, i dont understand a lick of what his comment even says but it must make sense if everyone else can understand it if its obvious enough to throw insults as a reply.
@[email protected] was making fun of (at least, I think they're making fun of...it could be a pretty extreme Poe's Law case) people who vehemently hate sport. "Sportsball" is a word such people use to belittle sport. "DAE handegg" references (1) the "DAE [x]" meme, where someone makes fun of a community hivemind by saying "does anyone else like [thing the community is well-known for liking]", and (2) the term "handegg", used by fans of soccer to refer to other types of football, because of a misunderstanding of what "ball" means (they think it requires a spherical object) and why football is called football (they think it's because you kick the ball exclusively with your feet). People who unironically say "handegg" also seem to have never looked at either an egg or a non-soccer football.
Ok i can see it now. I definitely never saw this meme format before or if I did I prolly assumed stroke or but dial comment post so thank you.
"I like the absence of corporate shills and ads." Also, why doesn't anyone talk about sports teams owned by billionaires and corporations?
And once those pricks get a hold of Lemmy they will ruin it just like reddit.
I think it's also just tricky because sports fans tend to want to follow discussion of their team, which splits for example the soccer/football community into hundreds of sub-communities. I used to follow r/panthers (I am a long suffering charlotte home team supporter) but such a community doesn't exist on lemmy. Similarly, you don't really see active individual video game communities on lemmy even though that is more up the alley of the average lemmy user.
Yeah it does. I mean ill double check but im pretty sure im subscribed to all 32 individual communities for NFL and NHL teams. Some are more active than the actual community for the league the team is in.
The F1 communities are fairly active but TBF it's mostly because a few people regularly post news articles
the Liverpool FC community is a good example of this LOL
one of the biggest teams in the world, winning the EPL and the most popular community has only a few people that post a comment and rarely is there a post more then just the mod doing a gameday thread
Probably the Liverpool FC community is full of people who don't even know the word privacy. They probably heard about it in a Malus ad and think it means buying an iPhone and installing Telegram.
you feeling bitter about the Crystal Palace loss?
Exactly what im talking about. I should've looked up their username and gave them credit but the lemmy nfl community is the same way It basically has one dude posting all the posts at one time. So there will be community silence for days then all of a sudden 15 posts of articles from the past week or so. Might be a bot doing it tho cuz they've never added a comment or replied to any posts I've made.
ESPNs fees and blackouts exhausted me.
If folks want to gather around and cheer for a sport again, I'm in.
But I'm waiting for a DRM free, non-geo-locked, consistent, reliable Livestream URL. It can be paid, but there probably needs to be free tier to get me interested.
I get that I'm asking a lot, since streaming isn't cheap. But I refuse to believe it's as burdensome as ESPN makes it.
Edit: To be clear - please link me to your favorite non-ESPN sports streaming services, and I'll check them out. Thanks in advance!
Wow. I didn't realize so many people here were anti sports. Interesting.
I do miss the sports from Reddit so I still go back for that. But I've also decided to try to be the change ... So I've started to post more in the sports communities around here.
It's probably the last thing I still go back to Reddit for. Otherwise Lemmy is my go to.
Yeah, the whole "anti-sports" thing always seemed like overcompensation for something? Like if you don't like sports (I don't, for the most part), then just don't watch them.
It's strange when people get like actively hostile about the existence of sports.
Maybe Lemmy has a decent amount of users who are more inclined to nerd stuff like Linux and frisbee? I don't care for sports or cars or other "cool" dude stuff. But I love computers and books and frisbee (which I don't get to throw nearly enough). This just got me thinking. I'm gonna actively try to get some friends together to toss the bee. In my forties. Like we were in our teens. Thanks for inspiring me.
or used to be into sports then gambling became legal and feel its less real and sympathy for friends struggling with gambling now
This is kind of where I am. Gambling has killed any authenticity in the fandom to the point where if I watch a game with friends they are just all on their phones cons
I'm in my 40s too and just finished playing spring league Ultimate Frisbee. It's was a ton of fun, but I did get a lot of inflammation in my knees.
I also use Linux a lot, but also wish there's was more sports talk on Lemmy, especially NHL. I thought more people woukd jump ship off reddit after the 3rd party apps were banished.
I feel like most of the writing communities are also pretty inactive. I'm not sure why. I liked reading short stories on Reddit, and I don't like looking at memes. I'm not sure whether it's a good thing (because I don't use Lemmy as often that way) or a bad thing.
I guess I could spam them with public-domain stories or reposts or something, but I feel like that's just losing the plot.
Wait - writing communities on Lemmy?
Yeah, creative writing communities like r/AmITheAsshole, r/relationshipadvice, or r/offmychest.
I meant I'm interested in communities about the act and craft of creative writing.
Despite your sarcasm, those communities are ostensibly about writing about a real situation.
To be honest, I was thinking about ones where people uploaded short stories to the platform. I guess if you want a community focused on the act of writing, you have [email protected] and [email protected], which are about discussions about writing generally and writing furry stories respectively, and there are probably others that I'm too lazy to find.
Anyways, I am not the best person to find writing communities in general. For example, I literally found this post today, which lists a bunch of communities for short stories. I'm going to list them in order of most to least active, as well as adding my own findings (of communities of short stories where fiction could be appreciated).
So there are some.
Overall, it seems like I probably should have remembered literature.cafe as a whole existed when I made the first post. It also has a community for writing prompts.
This is exactly how I feel across all lemmy communities. Back in my reddit days id find myself writing out entire comments in full, only to delete them before submitting just to avoid a subsequent flood of replies. On lemmy I find myself leaving more and more comments even on shit I barely care about just hoping to drive more user discussions.im not complaining. I genuinely love lemmy and hated reddit, but I cant help feeling like im spaming posts with my comments.
F1 sometimes reaches the frontpage
European sports on Lemmy are a lot more active than American ones
Try being into less mainstream sports. It's like me and one other guy talking to each other over on ![email protected]
It's the middle of the current tournament-- great time to be watching!
Literally just post everything you find interesting and upvote elsewhere
So original and edgy! To each their own🍻
Just look at the rest of these comments... the /s was definitely needed unfortunately.
Nah, they promote teamwork and physical fitness which are both good things.
Is that why everyone is drinking beer during matches and eating tons of fast food?
The players?
I cannot explain why but small Lemmy communities with unique content do not seem to get favored enough by the algorithm.
One of the most unique Lemmy communities is https://lemmy.sdf.org/c/funhole and it rarely gets featured.
Well it's not much of an algorithm, it's mostly about votes or comments depending on your selected filter. If you want niche things you need to subscribe to communities and engage with it.
I wont discount your assessment of the overlap (or lack thereof) between the lemmy demo and sports demo. But I’ll submit to you a factor you, and many others, may not have considered. I fit into both demos but simply lost all interest in keeping up with sports after the pandemic. It just really put into perspective how much they don’t matter to me and I haven’t gotten back into them. I’m curious if this happened in any kind of significant amount. And things haven’t progressed in the world to make getting back into them a big desire. I do still tune in the occasional Stanley Cup playoff game if I happen to come across it with nothing better going on. But I haven’t made sports a primary hobby of mine since 2019 and I don’t think I’m ever going to again. And it used to be my primary hobby. I wasn’t fantasy league and sport book level, but I scheduled life around games and teams and spent lots of time in forums.
Be the change you want to see.
Of your visible posts, 0 of them are in the communities you want to see active. The same goes for your last week or so of comments.Sorry, I looked with an alt account that I did not think had anything blocked, but apparently it does so i did not see your posts in a bills community.I am not a sports fan, but I have been loving watching the PWHL. So much so that I took over modding ![email protected] I post the score of every game (granted this season there are only 6 teams). I have started to post video highlights, I also am cross posting to ![email protected] however the reception there is decidedly frigid. The community has about doubled in size since I started posting regularly.
If you scroll just a little pass the surface level of their account you can see that OP has posted a dozen times in the Bills community.
I likely have that community blocked. I looked with an alt account that I did not think had anything blocked. Oops.
I hope you only spent the time scolling posts cuz that seems like a long way to go to verify what I explained in my post if you scrolled thru all the comments I post looking for the cast time I posted/commented in NFL or Bills communities lol. I know its been a long time cuz if memory serves it would've been in last years off season.
Having a small community means you will not attract all the toxic people most of the time.
For me Lemmy feels like s small town ( New Hope, Pennsylvania) with mostly nicer people, while Reddit is a big town (New York) that is well known, but you have a lot more assholes.😅
And honestly, I really enjoy Lemmy for that.🙂
On lemmy.ca we have semi-active Hockey pages, especially due to the playoffs, check out ![email protected], and some of the team pages get occasional posts. The advantage of being a lemmy.ca user is that you will encounter small sports team and small Canadian city page posts more often in local feed.
I think before a Buffalo Bills page takes off we need a relatively active American football page. But sports commentary is not very intriguing to me and feels very formulaic: "Go [team name] Go", "Coach [name] sucks", "Next season we've drafted [name] to our team", etc. etc.
Does your sport have a separate meme/shitposting community? If not that may be the missing component. Being able to both talk about the sport and make fun of parts of it are highly engaging.
Formula 1 seems to do decently here on Lemmy with its news and commentary community:
[email protected] with nearly 10k subscribers.
But importantly there's also a place for shitposting and meming for the sport in a separate community:
[email protected] with 4.1k subscribers.
So for every one subscriber to the main community there is about 1 subscription to the meme community.
I dont think so. Unfortunately NFL and NHL memes arent as big as other sports meme c9mmunities cuz of the helmets not allowing for much expression without any animation. I could see NBA or FIFA (and all other soccer/futball leagues) having a much better shot at having an affiliated meme community.
I thought the exact same thing when i joined. Today while working on my project car I decided to take pictures and make a post sometime over the next few days when I'm done with the task. Hopefully someone sees it and starts discussion and adds content to one of the niche communities here that was actually one of my favorite non toxic subs on shitty ass reddit.
We get to build these communities and it's kind of exciting 🤙
Everyone’s already hit the high points.
Sports fanbase tends to not be a tech base, which Lemmy primarily is.
Sports are paywalled to hell and back, the userbase here is far more inclined to avoid paywalls and the content behind it.
People dislike the celebrity gossip and stuffed suits surrounding sports.
My own personal disregard for sports leans more towards the dislike of the monied celebrity of the entire genre, the worship of the players, and the pointless obsession and discussion of things like stats that have all the meaning of dowsing rods. But that’s literally just my opinion and obviously plenty of people feel otherwise.
We’re here there’s just not a lot of us yet
Crazy idea: use a bot? A lot of communities already do it to help with lack of folks where the techies dont regularly post. You can still get your news here and you will likely attract other folks like you (maybe tell them over on other places that we now have sports news). Just trying to help
Please no
That's not real content. It is just lots and lots of spam.
For news and sport it could be useful.
Tag it as bot generated. Don't allow bot comments.
Also limit the number of posts
Thanks for your opinion. Do you post in that community? Do you have a better idea? If you can answer both questions with no I would ask what differs your post from spam.
I'm not a sports fan what so ever but in other communities bots have been tried and it didn't go well.
The ![email protected] bot works very well.
Okay, where did you get that info? Do you know what the term anecdotal evidence describes?
The last one I looked at was the LTT community
It had nothing but bots and the occasional user talking about how much the hate LTT
Well, there you have the exact meaning of anecdotal evidence. It does not count at all. Also, it is assuming causation instead of corellation.
And ltt is a great example for a place thats quite incompatible with the fediverse. Linus is a good pipeline to get peeps into computers but not a great person, sadly.
That said, the person asking specifically wanted NEWS. Can you umagine how your goals differ?
So don't let your account see bot accounts
That's a you problem
The point is that most people won’t participate in a community that’s the same bot, posting headlines over and over, with 1 upvote and 0 comments, day in and day out. I’ve blocked so many of those (especially the ones who’s RSS feed only refreshes like once a day and they vomit like 30 stories at once into some community that shows up in my All feed blocking out everything else for miles of scrolling.)
You need users expressing their interest via posting. It’s community editorializing that makes platforms like this interesting, from Slashdot and Fark all the way to Lemmy today.
Exactly this
I don't want to see 20 posts with no comments.
Disable bot accounts for yourself if you don't want to see them, like I already said
Or I could just go elsewhere
Lemmy has plenty of communities and instances to choose from
Too lazy/stupid for one checkbox? Lines up with you for sure
Sometimes I wish that I was into sports, it seems very fun! I feel like I would need to know people irl who are into sports in order to get into sports though. Are sports memes a big thing? I feel like those should/could be a big thing.
Back on reddit, there was at least one sub dedicated to memes I between just a single division (nfcnorthmemewar, or something close) and it was always hilarious. Definitely miss the regular sub and the meme subs here.
Of the top 10 greatest times I've ever had, prolly 7 are from attending Bills games, or thr PGA Championship, or Sabres games
Just pick a team, start wearing their gear and the friends will come. Lol its a great way of meeting people. You dont need to learn too much to understand the game enough to become a fan. A quick youtube video to explain the game then look up any of the number of documentaries that exist for every amd any team to learn their story/history and you are good to go.
Once you start meeting people and tell them you just started getting into it, other fans are going to be delighted to share their knowledge or answer questions. You'll be apart of a community that will always have your back.
My local team is thr Buffalo Bills, our star quarterback's name is Josh Allen. When Josh's grandma died, Bills fans everywhere started donating $17 (Josh's jersey number) to his charity for children's hospital. We raised over a million dollars and today there is a whole wing added to children's hospital dedicated to Josh's grandmother that was built with the funds of his charity.
Im not guna pitch any team for you to follow but I will say that if I were you, id want to join the greatest fan community of any sport of all time, the Buffalo Bills' Billsmafia lol.
The sports meme market is booming. NBA is prolly the king of sports memes. There are prolly reation memes you have seen a thousand times but didn't know were from sports.
The last bit of advice id give is to get into the fantasy sports of whatever team you choose. Its the best way of learning which players are good on other teams, what plays to cheer for or be pissed about, but mostly it'll teach you how the game's statistics work. Plus they're really fun and great way meet new friends. If you are interested in learning more there was a comedy series on FX that was really good that was all about a group of friends and their fantasy football league called, "The League."
As a Sabres fan, I don't have much to say lol
There is only one thing to say:
We like sports and we don't care who knows.
Just 2 guyz having a good time...
Cool story, bro. Couldn't imagine why someone like you who makes ignorant comments of topics they have no interest in would ever get bullied but good for you!
Because he is the bully in question.
Just another roided up "athlete" who snorts whey and carbs and calls themselves a sports-fan, while engaging in exactly nil critical thinking.
Go Bills, fellow Reddit expat and I definitely miss just getting news posted about the team and Lemmy is nowhere near that level of activity. I’ve ended up just going back to old.Reddit and browsing new here and there - no commenting, not logged in, so it’s not nearly as time consuming as it used to be. Hopefully someday people will use Lemmy for stuff like this!
Fuck yeah, Go Bills!
Go Bills. I started on the twobillsdrive board until that went to shit. Migrated to the bills subreddit after that. Would be nice to have that here.
One thing to do is link people on reddit to lemmy. That's how I found out about this place. Most people have no idea it exists
I personally cant watch NFL after being a lifelong fan. Seems like the games are being manipulated. Seems a little glitchy with some weird calls being made these days. Became unwatchable for me but ....Go Ravens !!!!
Whenever I say this, people think I’m insane. “You think this is all rigged!?” they say. Not rigged per se, but the nfl as a whole has a huge financial incentive to have their large market teams and star personalities on the biggest stage. They craft a narrative and would prefer it to play out that way. I’m not suggesting it’s professional wrestling, but I have a strong hunch that officials are “indirectly” incentivized to put their thumb on the scale. The players are real, the sport is real, but the league will absolutely nudge things in their direction. The Kelce/Swift show being the biggest recent example; viewership went way up and a lot of people took that to the bank. It all just fit together too well.
Always found it amazing how Vegas hits those spreads dead nuts across all the games every week.it is truly an amazing feat.
The last 10 years they toss a flag then "go to new york" for the call and sometimes they just pick the flag up and say "oh it was nothing, back to our regularly scheduled programming"
Go Bills! Well now that youre here, it makes 3 of us! According to the laws of nature that officially makes us a community of Bills fans instead of a couple of Bills fans😂
I think I’ve generally been less interested in sports as the pro leagues gatekeep more of their games behind multiple paywalls and less interested in college sports as NIL and conference realignment has killed the traditions and the connection between the students, athletes, and alumni.
If you weren’t already a sports fan, I can’t imagine a much worse time to become one
When the sports centric folk start appearing here in large numbers so will a lot of the garbage that comes with having a non tech userbase.
Does a kind of underground system like Lemmy appeal to sports fans?
I think so yes where you can find out real, not paid for news
I have communities that I care about that aren't on here too. It's their loss if they don't join the fediverse. If it takes them another few years of eating billionaires dicks to get tired of dickbreath, that's on them.
Imagine if some random medium sized sports forum decided to move/switch to Lemmy? Would be cool I guess.
Careful what you wish for
Easy enough to block the sports communities from your feed if you browse c/all if you dont like them. I say someone set up the sports communities and start posting articles to see if we can get more adoption by the sports folks over here. I dont have the patience for sports but more users is good. Some sports people are obnoxious but some certainly aren't (Bill Bppurr comes to mind) and userbase growth is needed.
I’m not sure that your conclusion follows your premise.
Counterpoint: as soon as sports and their related normies became popular and took over Reddit, it went to complete shit.
Lol ok. So reddit went to shit 10-15 years ago? Breezing over the opinionated over generalization, even if it was the case it wasn't true for the individual subreddits. R/BuffaloBills was still an amazing community with amazing user base even at the point of my leaving reddit. My proudest moment of being a Bills fans and being apart of a community was every time r/buffalobills and billsmafia raised millions on top of millions of dollars for Osheas Children's hospital, Andy Dalton's charity and Damar Hamlin"s charity.
Does Lemmy have an equivalent of the reddit sportsbook sub? That's literally the only thing I actually go to Reddit for anymore, and I'd prefer to just use Lemmy if possible
pro sports are about as normie of an activity as you can get... it'll be a while before anything beyond futbol ends up here
G O
C H I E F S !
Instantly dislike this idea...
She/He wanted more sports interaction!
Dammit, not like that!
Awwwwww fuck you and the double cheeseburger Andy rode in on. Lol🍻
The shit in these comments is why Lemmy is doomed to be a minor platform that will inevitably fizzle out.
Seriously people, there are other interests besides Linux and politics. If we bully out other interests from starting communities on Lemmy it'll never grow out of obscurity... some may like that but I'd personally like to see it grow into something that can actually compete with Reddit.
I say this as someone who doesn't like sports at all, but we have these magical things called filters for people like me!
Why will it fizzle out? It doesn't have to be for everything. People have places to discuss sports already, and I guess they're happy with them.
Also, I know I'm not alone in saying that I prefer it stay a "minor platform."
They are an oracle and decide futures
I would be interested in NHL stuff but I don't even consume that much NHL content. If somebody actively posts in NHL and other hockey related sub lemmy communities then I'll join and try to engage as much as I can.
I get so pissed when I hear stories of the shit the nhl tries out in hopes of growing their fan base when all they need to do is strike a deal with a streaming platform that will allow local markets watch their local team. Ever since I got rid of cable, fuck maybe a decade now, I have all but gave up watching hockey. Yeah ill watch playoffs and yeah I know I can pirate a live stream for each game but for 82 games a year its asking a lot to search for a good streaming source.
Tbf, they don’t make it easy to watch football legally without cable either
Yeah sometimes I might turn on one of those gray streaming sites and watch live hockey games. I might watch some highlight clips on YouTube
is there nfl community? bucs? patriots?
Yepper
Yeah, we prefer real news.
Sports coverage might as well be celebrity gossip for as much relevance it has when the world is going to shit.
Stop melding your personality with a collective and then speaking as if you are their arbiter. Speak for yourself.
Thats because sports are shit, I hope they stay out.
Yup I really want a nba sub please someone put in the work I'll like every post lol
That someone is you
I like NHL and MLB. Both my teams are on the other side of the country, though. I cannot watch unless I pay out the wazoo. It ain't worth it. Plus, cable? No thanks. Can't afford it anyways, really. I used to listen to MLB radio at my old job with the AtBat app but they changed the subscription and it got too expensive.
Plus, it's just not accommodating to people like me. I mention liking a team and I get bombarded with questions like "who was the 2nd baseman during 1998?" Or "what's the current batting average for the designated hitter?" Or "who's the coach right now?"
Like I have to prove I'm a 'true fan.' I don't care about that. I see ball go fast, and get hit out the park, it is fun. I see a hockey player toss a puck across the ice, it is fun. I love games but I don't know who the developer is by name. Just the company. Dunno where the best loot chest was in the dungeons of Oblivion/Skyrim/whatever. I just enjoy things the way I enjoy them.
After work, I'd rather spend time reading or playing video games or playing an instrument. Watching ads on TV makes me want to pull my eyes out with a fork. Ads on anything.
Overall... expensive. Ad breaks. And sports fans are not a welcoming bunch. Communities for them are awful, and filled with the kind of men who don't realize it but have every stat memorized and have to belittle everyone about it to prove they're the highlander of sports. The one and only true fan. No thanks.
Those sports are only played in one country though. The Kabaddi channels are not doing so well either.
Lol you think hockey is only played in one country? I mean you do know it is an Olympic sport, right?
Or we are all just a bunch of nerds with better things to do than watch the people who used to beat us up.
How original. Thanks for being the first reply to call yourself a nerd while grouping everyone who ever watched a sport a a bully. Sorry for triggering you with a shower thought about realizing the quantitative imbalance between % of world thst watches sports and the % of lemmy users who do not like sports.
I'll take two dozen folks in the NFL sub-lemmies over the thousand brain-dead douchebags we'd get in comparable communities on Reddit.
Quality over quantity, bitch.
Ok but there's zero movement in a lot of hobby communities here, and I'm not talking about niche interests. There cannot be quality when the quantity is none.
It seems like the tabletop wargaming groups are really dead, so I feel you on this, haha.
The fediverse is what you make it. If you have an interest, take five minutes and post a couple of articles a day. It's not overly difficult to to engage with people.
Some hobbies don’t have enough “news” content. To make up for that you need more than a couple of active posters showing off what they’ve built or made.
Not to mention, every instance could theoretically have a community for a specific hobby and it splits up the activity even more. And if I sub to all those communities I generally tend to get the same post over and over again in my feed.
Then when it comes to things like news my experience has been it becomes like an echo chamber and any dissenting opinion is met with open hostility. Yes, it’s a two way street, but this post is a perfect example.
The more users you have, the less the hostility has a chance to gain hold on a post. I’ve had some really great interactions in my short time on Lemmy, but I’ve also had and seen more hostility when I tried to be civil.
I mean geez, have you seen some of the replies OP got in this thread?
I'll take a thousand brain-dead douchebag comments over your brain-dead douchebag comment, bitch.
Ewww keep that shit away from this space. We don't need brain-addled concussion-full roided up meatheads on Lemmy.
Same as they're not needed irl but I guess some of you all sniffed a little too much lead paint to agree.
Come on man, let people like what they like. I literally couldn't care less about sports, and have many issues with the amount of money that goes towards them, but that doesn't mean I'm going to shit on someone just for enjoying them.
I've been an athlete my whole life. I don't get why more tech savvy people have this absolute disdain for people who enjoy sports. Like, I get it, maybe some of the athletes at your school picked on you. Sweet. I was an athlete and ALSO got picked on by people. Constantly. I'm in my 30's now, and stopped dwelling on that shit in college. Move on, you know?
Apparently sitting around watching other people act out the sport for them.
I still regularly play baseball and ice hockey. I do martial arts as part of my job (I work in stunts in LA), and I love going hiking and staying healthy.
But sure, watching people actually do things with their body and playing a game somehow is just a foreign fucking concept to people on this site.
Would you rather people watch video game competitions or something in their spare time?
No, why the fuck would you watch anything? Get out there and do the thing! I think I would rather watch paint dry (and have, don't get involved in research with darpa, folks) than watch someone else do something fun. It's just cuckoldry.
The same reason some rednecks and jocks will pretend theyre not smart: tribalism and signaling. I agree it is dumb.
There's an easier way to just say you suck at physical things.
Posting something like this just makes you look really bitter.
Most people I know that are obsessed with sports are some of the laziest sacks of flesh Ive seen. Almost none of them do any physical activity other than yelling at the screen over their fat beer gut.
Sitting on the couch watching mind numbing idiotic games of men in tight cloths running after a ball does not make you athletic or fit, if that's what you're thinking.
People hate sports cause it's one of the lowest forms of entertainment, and because the people who enjoy it are misbhaved degenerates and obnoxious.
Watching sports is just the easiest thing you can immerse in without needing any significant mental capability or capacity.
You do understand that all it is is just stupid games to distract all of you.
It is unethical, it wastes huge amounts of resources, it is connected to racism nationalism and all kinds of nasty shit.
Enjoy watching Millioners kicking a ball on your flatscreen
Geez, for someone complaining about how dumb sport fans are, this sure is some fucking atrociously bad-quality writing.
I've*. misbehaved*. racism, nationalism, and* (though the Oxford comma is optional). millionaires* (note: this is both correcting the spelling and the Random capital letter).
Sure is. So?
Oof, the guy complaining about how dumb sport fans are can't figure out basic very obvious subtext.
What is the subtext? That spelling equals intelligence?
You were one of those "gifted kids" that can barely function as an adult now, don't you?
We can speak in my mother tongue if you're interested in perfect grammar, will that help your simple American mind? It seems that you understand the main point of what i said, despite the spelling errors, but clearly cannot think of anything worthy to say about it, so you try to make noise to hide your inability to think.
If you could formulate some response that is relevant to the content of my message, I'd be happy to continue this discussion. If you want to talk about my writing we can do it offline.
Ooh, yet more proof of functional illiteracy. Nice.
Lmao.
It only looks easy because you clearly have never spent a single second trying to understand it. What would you rather people do? Watch skinny kids with vitamin D deficiencies play video games? 🤣
Do you really believe watching sports is some achievement? If so than good work kid keep it up.
The fact that you think they are different is straight up pathetic.
They are both pointless games to.pass the time as a form of escapism, they are both regarded as significant while they exists only as opium for the masses.
What I rather? That these people will spend their time doing something productive for themselves and for what's around them instead of wasting it infr9nt of screens with a ball bouncing, telling strangers online how important their silly games are and how smart they are for watching them.
Lol sure thing tech bro.
People have a right to leisure activities. You belittling them just makes you look petty.
Although larger font will make you correct still no one has a right if that leisure is harmful to others.
Even the way you talk screams 'generic sports fanatic'
HA. So something that harms no one but the players, who voluntarily play said games, is bad.
Dude, I played 2 sports in college, and got the privilege to tryout professionally for sports. Nothing about me is generic. What I can see from this conversation is you have some deep seated psychological hatred towards sports, and people who enjoy them.
I'd recommend you talk to a professional so this doesn't keep eating at you.
Well have you considered the meat headed sports fans couldn't figure out how to join lemmy? That maybe there are regular users on lemmy who might not all be of the same hivemind and there could actually be several multifaceted users who enjoy a wide range of stuff? Im not guna waste my time saving this reply as a draft to back out and re-eead my own post, but did my post even suggest a desire to expand the Lemmy community? I 100% thought it was a simple showerthought about how there are hundreds of millions of people accross the world who love their sport of choice so it blew my mind that there weren't more users active in any of the sports communities I've checked out. I mean its baffling just from a pure statistical consideration.
You forgot the /s