I want some scientific research into this, because I believe the twist and tuck is as good as any other method of sealing the bag, and it's faster and requires no accessories, clips, or tools.
I take umbrage with this meme's characterization of the twist and tuck as chaotic. It's literally the fastest and easiest method without compromising freshness
It's chaotic in that it doesn't ascribe to needing the provided mechanism for closure. It also is not as great if you need to move it around, as it can come untucked easily.
That being said, twist and tuck is definitely Chaotic Good. The bottle hack belongs on the evil row.
I don't know that I agree that breadboxes were solely used in times/cases where the risk of mice getting to the bread was present but I get your reasoning.
People are so privileged and they don't even know it. Every place I have lived I have had to catch mice, and we're not messy with food and don't leave stuff out. We don't kill them either. We just can't afford to live in some new-ass house or apartment, and we're above median income.
Hmm other factors: Traps and poison to keep the population down. Amazing. City ordinances to keep trash levels down and thus mice populations down. Incredible. A refrigerator to keep your bread in. Lasereyes.jpg
It's not if mice still exist lmao, it's whether we still need breadboxes to stop them eating our bread. Since you are so insistent on moving the goalposts I'll leave you to have your last rage comment. Ciao.
I'd think most things post WW2 would be pretty good if kept up and neighbors kept up. Probably even older if they went through checking for gaps and air leaks. Neighbors play a role, if there's a mice outbreak they'll find more weaknesses.
Also we have fridges now. Yes you might argue to not put bread in the fridge but if mice are eating it you'd probably do it pretty quick.
How else to store real bread?
So not just the sandwich/toast bread, that comes in plastic bags, but real bread, with a crust and in plastic wrap it would lose its crust, but without any protection, it dries out.
It's a delicate balance act, where paper and a bread box seem to work best
The box being "good" is wild. That is where bread goes stale unseen and uneaten. Its gotta be near the top of pointless kitchen things that only people with more money then sense have.
That is not a bread box, more of a travel bread case. I use one for eggs and bread stuff when camping as well. But this... thing is a counter bound thing that is heavy and artsy.
Yeah, and I'm guessing the seal is so bad that it's only marginally better than just leaving the bag open. But even if it does seal well, it's got way more air in there to dry the bread out between openings. Plus it takes up space and needs to be cleaned.
If it doesn't seal well, I'd put it in CE and shift everything else by 1, except leave the CG one where it is and have the LN one skip that slot.
If it does seal well, it might make it to NE, but it would be a tough call between that and doing the same as if it didn't seal well.
Though if your household goes through bread fast enough, then I'd say the best options are the ones that don't involve using other materials, including just leaving it open.
Edit: Note that my harsh judgement of bread boxes assumes the bag is discarded like it appears to be in the picture. There's a comment further down (currently) that mentions putting it in a box with the bag still on, and I could agree that that might be the best option.
Also, I thought of a new better candidate for CE: opening the bag, grabbing it by the other end, helicoptering it until empty, then grabbing bread from around the room as needed.
Oh wait, no, that's just NE, CE is storing it in the sink, bag or no bag.
I have a queue: one loaf at the front gets stored on the counter, the next two loaves are in the fridge (generally replenished from the store, so most bread goes through my place unfrozen), then any others in the freezer.
I toast most bread I eat and find the difference between kept in fridge and not is unnoticeable.
I do similar with hot dog and hamburger buns, though they don't have a counter space due to being used less frequently.
Haven't had to throw out moldy bread nearly as much since I started doing that.
We got one like a year ago and I love it. Cheap plastic thing. It's airtight. No more arguments about me not using that useless bread tie and the bread lasts longer.
Since most of them are not airtight they suck like hell and they heat up in the summer to make a mold heaven. Some of them have gaps larger than a London subway station.
For real. I recently discovered that the bakery at the chain supermarket across the street from me sells giant loaves of sourdough for about a dollar less than even the "budget" brands in the factory-made bread aisle. Not going back.
It's way easier than you think it is to make a basic loaf of yeast-based, white bread. I had the recipe memorized for a few months while I was first getting into it.
iiffy on amounts but it ain't many ingredients
Bread Flower
Yeast
Honey (because sugar is boring)
Salt
One Egg
Level 2: Add more honey, slightly less yeast and toss brown sugar, cinnamon and nutmeg in melted butter in it while rolling.
Hey, I really appreciate your comment and I hope you have all the fun in the world with the recipes that you like.
But I have to be honest, this is not the bread I'm talking about. I'm really sorry, I don't want to be your opponent.
I have baked a few breads and sugar or honey is not needed to get the yeast going. That's a misconception I've encountered before, talking to a US-American. What you described sounds lovely, but (for me) it goes into the direction of brioche, milk bread, Hefezopf (yeast braid) and other sweet breads bordering on cake.
Real bread is: flour, water, sourdough, industrial yeast (optional), salt, spices (optional// caraway, fennel, coriander).
The second trigger point: flour.
I'm again sorry to offload this unto you, but I have to speak my piece.
What is bread flour? The nomenclature is meaningless, but that's the fault of the market.
I need to know from a flour, which grain it comes from (wheat, rice, maize, spelt, rye, dinkel) and how much of the rind is still in it (how dark it is or how white). Protein content is a bonus.
Just as a positive send off: I love raisins and sweet breads with raisins (Hefezopf).
I knew they were different but not why, so I just looked it up. "Bread flour" refers to wheat flour above a specific threshold of protein content, which makes a difference in how gluten develops.
I'm just saying twist and tuck is the best because it seals well enough and it's fast and requires no additional equipment. If you have a breadbox that's peak convenience, but I've only seen one family that had one ever, and they had the counter space for it.
Also worth noting: a bread box generally isn't sealed that well, I would still recommend keeping the bread in a bag (depending on what type it is and how quickly you plan to eat it).
Had one, hated it, forget the bread was in there* and it doesn’t have some sort of magical bread preservation properties, it’s just a spot taking up counter space to hold a plastic bag.
* (I recognize this is my specific problem but it’s on the list of why it doesn’t work for me)
Yeah I don’t wanna exaggerate but it was nearly the worst environment I could think of to just leave bread in. If you had a party or a brunch or something and didn’t want the bread sitting out, sure, but for having in there for a week and a half unmonitored, we’ve been taken for absolute fools. :)
Maybe it depends on climate, but bread left out where I am gets moldy way before it gets stale. The best solution is to keep it in the freezer (in a bag, and any of those methods but CE would probably be fine). Weeks later, the bread is still soft and send fresh. Bread thaws unbelievably fast. If I'm making a sandwich, I take two slices out and put them on a plate separated. Usually by the time I've got the other ingredients ready to go, the bread is thawed. If you're toasting the bread, it can go straight from freezer to toaster. If you're making sandwiches to take to work or school, you can just make them on the frozen bread.
This is the way. I rarely eat bread that isn't at least warmed, so the only issue with the frozen bread is the effort it sometimes takes to separate slices.
You want to know what bothers me with this chart? What has always bothered me, is it does not mention the twist-tie that comes with the bread when purchased.
Where is it? Where.
P.s. if you say it's the clip, that is clearly a chip bag clip, meant for chip bags. That clip does not come with the bread bag.
P.s.s. Make the FUCKING TWIST-TIE that comes with the bread true natural. Any deviation from it becomes a different part of the chart. Fuck off rubber band method. Replace the bottle cap method. (Who uses the bottle cap + ring method anyway? That should be in the 'psychopath waisting energy and justifying it with internet logic' level of evil category.)
At least where I'm from (Canada), bread comes with a clip holding the bag shut, not a twist tie. "Re-using the clip" means the clip the came with the bag. You can see that it's a different shape in the picture. This would be the equivalent of re-using the twist tie, if that's how the bread is packaged where you live.
you cut the top of a plastic bottle with a knife or any kind of cutter, as you got the top, you got the part that have a screw cap, so, the next you have to do is make the bag go trough the hole, turn back the plastic and then close it with the screw cap.
I'm lawful neutral until I lose the bread clip and go chaotic neutral. Sometimes I'm lawful good the whole time, but I've been chaotic at the start and that's fun!
If you have fresh baguettes and they go stale, just cut them into slices and stick them in the toaster oven for a bit and you've pretty much got those fancy dried bread snacks for way cheaper than they usually sell for.
A large amount of the US has some combination of weather, wildlife, regulations, and space constraints, that makes line drying clothing untenable. So... no?
It is inarguable that anything but twist/tuck is ok. Bread box is a whimsical idea from when material science was advanced enough to make horseshoes. Everything else either requires more plastic/steps or wrecks the bread.
i have found that just tucking dries the bread just fast enough to not get mouldy, and dry bread can be just rehydrated by wetting it and putting it in an oven for a bit
I twist, fold then put a clip on it. This also works well with the two common kinds of clips you get with the bag (plastic squareish thing with a hole like in the image and plastic thing with metal wire in it) and other clips you have yourself as the fold makes it so the bag doesn't untwist as much.
You're going to be opening that package often over a short period. I don't think it's useful to tie it down too tightly, and i especially don't think it's useful to introduce accessories (clip, bottle hack), you'll have to deal with them every single time you open the bag.
It's also just a fucking bread bag, you don't need to secure it so firmly.
Twist and tuck or just tucking, maybe tying a knot if it's going to get jostled a bit (going camping)
The bottle "hack" sounds insane, what a waste of time that is. Although I have seen a lot of things called hacks seem to be like that now, just extra steps that waste time.
I have a feeling a bunch of them are invented by people with hoarding tendencies that aren't at the point where they hoard literal garbage but might be close to that point but trying to justify keeping some things that are garbage-adjacent.
Like I get reusing and repurposing, but not when the "hack" is just more work for a solution that isn't any better than the easier one.
I tuck and put in breadbox. Naked in breadbox doesnt last long and it dries out. Tuck is easy to do, to undo and gets the job done as good as anything else when combined with a breadbox.
A slip-knot works too, if there's enough bag length to pull it off. I don't get the bread box option, there's too much sure exposure, it's gonna make your bread go stale.
Twist and tuck baby
I want some scientific research into this, because I believe the twist and tuck is as good as any other method of sealing the bag, and it's faster and requires no accessories, clips, or tools.
I take umbrage with this meme's characterization of the twist and tuck as chaotic. It's literally the fastest and easiest method without compromising freshness
It's chaotic in that it doesn't ascribe to needing the provided mechanism for closure. It also is not as great if you need to move it around, as it can come untucked easily.
That being said, twist and tuck is definitely Chaotic Good. The bottle hack belongs on the evil row.
Yeah. Who the fuck wants to fish out a plastic lid every time you get a slice of bread?
Not just the lid, but the actual cut off top of a bottle as well.
There is a minor downside: If anyone carelessly moves said bread bag, it can come untwisted, untucked, or both.
But yeah, I'm on team twist and tuck. (Although, since I live with other people, I normally just continue the method currently in place.)
We're talking about bread... Not balls.
/s
My grandma used one. Personally I think the real function was to keep mice from eating your bread, but that hasn't been a problem for a long time.
https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/did-you-know-history/did-you-know-breadboxes-really-did-help-keep-bread-fresh
To be fair, you originally said, "the real reason," but have just listed three different equal reasons.
Bread can't go stale if the mice keep eating it. There's an order of operations here.
I don't know that I agree that breadboxes were solely used in times/cases where the risk of mice getting to the bread was present but I get your reasoning.
As with many things it starts for one reason, then a different benefit comes up, becomes a norm just because, then peters out.
Mice are still a thing, dude.
People are so privileged and they don't even know it. Every place I have lived I have had to catch mice, and we're not messy with food and don't leave stuff out. We don't kill them either. We just can't afford to live in some new-ass house or apartment, and we're above median income.
Houses tend to be built tighter so mice can't get in as easy as it was when we had old drafty log cabins, dude.
Oh good, then I can tell the ones in my basement my house is built too recently for them.
I saw a dead mouse at work two hours ago. Mouse traps, bait, and poison are still sold in grocery and hardware stores. You are just wrong.
Hmm other factors: Traps and poison to keep the population down. Amazing. City ordinances to keep trash levels down and thus mice populations down. Incredible. A refrigerator to keep your bread in. Lasereyes.jpg
It's not if mice still exist lmao, it's whether we still need breadboxes to stop them eating our bread. Since you are so insistent on moving the goalposts I'll leave you to have your last rage comment. Ciao.
Look at this guy, living in a house less than 70 years old.
I'd think most things post WW2 would be pretty good if kept up and neighbors kept up. Probably even older if they went through checking for gaps and air leaks. Neighbors play a role, if there's a mice outbreak they'll find more weaknesses.
Also we have fridges now. Yes you might argue to not put bread in the fridge but if mice are eating it you'd probably do it pretty quick.
Same, my mom said I should get one when I moved out but we didn't even have one at home?? 😭
She probably is just afraid you will leave the bag open and then eat moldy bread.
Open bag will just dry out, it'll get moldy quicker with a sealed bag
I'd see myself leaving a bread box open faster than the plastic bag the bread comes in tbh
Free healthcare.
How else to store real bread?
So not just the sandwich/toast bread, that comes in plastic bags, but real bread, with a crust and in plastic wrap it would lose its crust, but without any protection, it dries out.
It's a delicate balance act, where paper and a bread box seem to work best
English here. Anyone I know with a bread box use it in combination with one of the others. I have one, so we’re Bread Box + Twist and Tuck.
They're pretty common here in Sweden, at least in my experience.
My grandma had one. Growing up we just kept our bread & bagels in the microwave.
Gf does this with baked goods. It's awful for me because I microwave a lot and don't always remember to put stuff back and it gets stale.
The box being "good" is wild. That is where bread goes stale unseen and uneaten. Its gotta be near the top of pointless kitchen things that only people with more money then sense have.
A bread box can be good for packing bread or sandwiches that you want to protect from being squished, like when camping for example.
That is not a bread box, more of a travel bread case. I use one for eggs and bread stuff when camping as well. But this... thing is a counter bound thing that is heavy and artsy.
Yeah, and I'm guessing the seal is so bad that it's only marginally better than just leaving the bag open. But even if it does seal well, it's got way more air in there to dry the bread out between openings. Plus it takes up space and needs to be cleaned.
If it doesn't seal well, I'd put it in CE and shift everything else by 1, except leave the CG one where it is and have the LN one skip that slot.
If it does seal well, it might make it to NE, but it would be a tough call between that and doing the same as if it didn't seal well.
Though if your household goes through bread fast enough, then I'd say the best options are the ones that don't involve using other materials, including just leaving it open.
Edit: Note that my harsh judgement of bread boxes assumes the bag is discarded like it appears to be in the picture. There's a comment further down (currently) that mentions putting it in a box with the bag still on, and I could agree that that might be the best option.
Also, I thought of a new better candidate for CE: opening the bag, grabbing it by the other end, helicoptering it until empty, then grabbing bread from around the room as needed.
Oh wait, no, that's just NE, CE is storing it in the sink, bag or no bag.
Twist and tuck all day erre'day
All day until I started steady living with a woman. The twist tie or whatever must be attached at all times.
Many years later we got a cheap plastic bread box and I gotta say it's awesome. You can twist and tuck and the bread stays good even longer.
What in the world is the bottle hack
Cutting off the top of a bottle and jamming the bag through the lid to seal it.
You cut the head off a bottle so you have the screwy-bit. Then you pull the open end through the bottle-Head and screw the lid on.
Hmmmmmmmmmm microplastics in my bread
TBF those are already in there. They're in the water supply!
Wouldn't want to get those inside its plastic bag
Bread that's in a plastic bag lol
I do not think you are ripping apart the plastic bag everytime. The joke is on everyone else, ours come in paper bags and you cut it with a machine.
I twist and fold inside out:
Still chaotic neutral, IMO
This is not bread mate
It's legally cake?
Always eat the entire loaf in one sitting.
I either reuse the clip or twist and tuck it if there's no clip. I don't understand why I'd use extra stuff for this like my own clips or rubber bands
I'm with you, either lawful or chaotic neutral is the way. Everyone else is trying to hard or not trying hard enough.
I do both lawful neutral and chaotic neutral at once. Am I paranoid?
I learned how to do this and never went back.
I feel like this alignment chart doesn't consider how evil you could get. Leaving the bag open seems pretty tame for CE. I suggest the following:
Chaotic evil: bread is tossed directly into the cupboard.
Chaotic evil: bread is kept on the floor.
Chaotic stupid: bread is stapled to various trees
Lawful evil: Bag is vacuum sealed every time after using.
Could you repeat in baguette, please?
What if I keep my bread in the fridge?
Get out. Your kind isn't welcome here.
I started doing this and have never looked back. We also keep the next loaf in the freezer, so we always have bread.
I have a queue: one loaf at the front gets stored on the counter, the next two loaves are in the fridge (generally replenished from the store, so most bread goes through my place unfrozen), then any others in the freezer.
I toast most bread I eat and find the difference between kept in fridge and not is unnoticeable.
I do similar with hot dog and hamburger buns, though they don't have a counter space due to being used less frequently.
Haven't had to throw out moldy bread nearly as much since I started doing that.
Then you are just doing it wrong. Bread goes stale faster in the fridge due to easier crystallization
I live somewhere extremely humid. Even potato chips can start going bad in a day here.
What about reusing the bag clip plus the twist and tuck method?
We got one like a year ago and I love it. Cheap plastic thing. It's airtight. No more arguments about me not using that useless bread tie and the bread lasts longer.
I have one. We still use the plastic bags, but just needed a place to put it that wasn't "out."
I got mine on the side of the road. Sanded it down and painted it up.
I love it. Bread goes in. Stays fresh.
At least three people on Earth own bread boxes. Elsewhere, I'm unsure.
Since most of them are not airtight they suck like hell and they heat up in the summer to make a mold heaven. Some of them have gaps larger than a London subway station.
Yes, my family uses it to store spatulas.
Breadbox should be chaotic side
Step 1: get some real bread
For real. I recently discovered that the bakery at the chain supermarket across the street from me sells giant loaves of sourdough for about a dollar less than even the "budget" brands in the factory-made bread aisle. Not going back.
It just gets stale so fast. We don't eat that much bread.
Step Sigma: Bake your own bread
It's way easier than you think it is to make a basic loaf of yeast-based, white bread. I had the recipe memorized for a few months while I was first getting into it.
iiffy on amounts but it ain't many ingredients
Bread Flower
Yeast
Honey (because sugar is boring)
Salt
One Egg
Level 2: Add more honey, slightly less yeast and toss brown sugar, cinnamon and nutmeg in melted butter in it while rolling.
bonus round: add raisins
Hey, I really appreciate your comment and I hope you have all the fun in the world with the recipes that you like.
But I have to be honest, this is not the bread I'm talking about. I'm really sorry, I don't want to be your opponent.
I have baked a few breads and sugar or honey is not needed to get the yeast going. That's a misconception I've encountered before, talking to a US-American. What you described sounds lovely, but (for me) it goes into the direction of brioche, milk bread, Hefezopf (yeast braid) and other sweet breads bordering on cake.
Real bread is: flour, water, sourdough, industrial yeast (optional), salt, spices (optional// caraway, fennel, coriander).
The second trigger point: flour.
I'm again sorry to offload this unto you, but I have to speak my piece.
What is bread flour? The nomenclature is meaningless, but that's the fault of the market. I need to know from a flour, which grain it comes from (wheat, rice, maize, spelt, rye, dinkel) and how much of the rind is still in it (how dark it is or how white). Protein content is a bonus.
Just as a positive send off: I love raisins and sweet breads with raisins (Hefezopf).
I knew they were different but not why, so I just looked it up. "Bread flour" refers to wheat flour above a specific threshold of protein content, which makes a difference in how gluten develops.
lol
lmao
ROFL 🤣🤣🤣
I'm just saying twist and tuck is the best because it seals well enough and it's fast and requires no additional equipment. If you have a breadbox that's peak convenience, but I've only seen one family that had one ever, and they had the counter space for it.
Also worth noting: a bread box generally isn't sealed that well, I would still recommend keeping the bread in a bag (depending on what type it is and how quickly you plan to eat it).
We have a bread box but keep the bread in the bag inside the box.
Better put the bread box in the cupboard, just to be on the safe side.
Might do.
Reuse clip or twist and tuck are the only appropriate methods.
Pros and cons of breadbox? Any paladins out there willing to enlighten us?
Had one, hated it, forget the bread was in there* and it doesn’t have some sort of magical bread preservation properties, it’s just a spot taking up counter space to hold a plastic bag.
* (I recognize this is my specific problem but it’s on the list of why it doesn’t work for me)
Same here though, the bread turns to a brick of mold way before even getting close to the end.
The refrigerator might change the bread properties but at least it isn't ruined in two days.
Yeah I don’t wanna exaggerate but it was nearly the worst environment I could think of to just leave bread in. If you had a party or a brunch or something and didn’t want the bread sitting out, sure, but for having in there for a week and a half unmonitored, we’ve been taken for absolute fools. :)
The fridge is the worst place. Try the freezer.
When it's more than one the others get frozen, I overbuy when it's on sale.
I've tried bread containers (like boxes, but sealed plastic) and it was awful. I swear it went moldy faster in the thing than outside it.
Plastic seals in moisture, wood absorbs it
Maybe it depends on climate, but bread left out where I am gets moldy way before it gets stale. The best solution is to keep it in the freezer (in a bag, and any of those methods but CE would probably be fine). Weeks later, the bread is still soft and send fresh. Bread thaws unbelievably fast. If I'm making a sandwich, I take two slices out and put them on a plate separated. Usually by the time I've got the other ingredients ready to go, the bread is thawed. If you're toasting the bread, it can go straight from freezer to toaster. If you're making sandwiches to take to work or school, you can just make them on the frozen bread.
This is the way. I rarely eat bread that isn't at least warmed, so the only issue with the frozen bread is the effort it sometimes takes to separate slices.
You want to know what bothers me with this chart? What has always bothered me, is it does not mention the twist-tie that comes with the bread when purchased.
Where is it? Where.
P.s. if you say it's the clip, that is clearly a chip bag clip, meant for chip bags. That clip does not come with the bread bag.
P.s.s. Make the FUCKING TWIST-TIE that comes with the bread true natural. Any deviation from it becomes a different part of the chart. Fuck off rubber band method. Replace the bottle cap method. (Who uses the bottle cap + ring method anyway? That should be in the 'psychopath waisting energy and justifying it with internet logic' level of evil category.)
At least where I'm from (Canada), bread comes with a clip holding the bag shut, not a twist tie. "Re-using the clip" means the clip the came with the bag. You can see that it's a different shape in the picture. This would be the equivalent of re-using the twist tie, if that's how the bread is packaged where you live.
The cap is "5 mins crafts" level
Twist and tuck has never let me down
When you put the Lawful Neutral into the Lawful Good to form the Lawful Supreme
Htf does the bottle cap work
you cut the top of a plastic bottle with a knife or any kind of cutter, as you got the top, you got the part that have a screw cap, so, the next you have to do is make the bag go trough the hole, turn back the plastic and then close it with the screw cap.
How do I get my bread through a bottle cap?
There is when the "chaotic" in "chaotic good" kicks in
You pinch it and take it out in little crumbles, duh
Thank you random internet strange
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I am lawful neutral (use clip it came with) until about halfway through the loaf, then I become chaotic neutral (twist and tuck) at the back half.
There isn’t enough bag to properly twist and tuck until that point anyway.
I'm lawful neutral until I lose the bread clip and go chaotic neutral. Sometimes I'm lawful good the whole time, but I've been chaotic at the start and that's fun!
I keep my bread in the fridge, and then it doesn't matter.
I guess it means I'm in Pathfinder universe or something
This, keep it in fridge and only tuck.
Quick round in the toaster if needed for the cold bread, or not if it is used to make lunch to bring to work or something.
Throw in the fridge
Why would you do anything else than neutral evil? Waste of time and plastics.
Chaotic good should be: only buy fresh bread and it's considered ruined and garbage the next day so why bother with bags.
If you have fresh baguettes and they go stale, just cut them into slices and stick them in the toaster oven for a bit and you've pretty much got those fancy dried bread snacks for way cheaper than they usually sell for.
Lawful neutral, or if the clip gets lost, then chaotic neutral.
Chaotic neutral also if it comes with one of those wire twist ties, ain't nobody got time for that. Only plastic clips get reused.
Oh I like twisty ties! Because I just wrap it once around the bag, then I get to spin the bread like a nunchuck to twist it all up
Twist, tuck, freeze
i usually tie a knot, or use the little noodle thing that comes with the bread package to tie it
I tie a knot AND twist and tuck. Where does that leave me?
Chaotic evil would be rearranging the slices so they don't work for easy sandwiches.
Chaotic evil includes eating the heels of the bread first, because you don't want that sweet extra protection layer from fungi.
Freezer bags, 4 slices per bag, in a freezer. That way I can take out only as much bread as I can eat before it gets moldy.
No other neutral evil folks? Ah well, I haven't eaten bread in ages anyhow.
It is the optimal way. Lowest effort, fastest, same result, no additional stuff needed.
Do none of you people have clothes pins? Or does that count as Neutral Good?
Also, CG and CN need to be switched. There is no way the bottle hack counts as "good."
A large amount of the US has some combination of weather, wildlife, regulations, and space constraints, that makes line drying clothing untenable. So... no?
I only line dry my clothes when I think they need to be seasoned with some guano.
In my case, some combination of humidity, geese, and squirrels, would destroy everything i own.
It is inarguable that anything but twist/tuck is ok. Bread box is a whimsical idea from when material science was advanced enough to make horseshoes. Everything else either requires more plastic/steps or wrecks the bread.
There's really no argument here.
I never knew that I am chaotic neutral
I think anything that uses any kind of item that doesn't come packed with the bread belongs on the "lawful" side.
As long as it's airtight and not stored for weeks it's ok. Use good bread though, not this bad imitation.
stands up in his chair
brilliant...
save the bread clips from finished loaves because you're probably gonna lose one of those fuckers someday and you'll be glad you saved this one
Chaotic neutral for the win.
I guess I'm lawful evil lol
If you look at it, it's lawful good.
But at its core, it's chaotic neutral.
True neutral?
No, I'm twist'n'tucking in the bread box.
i have found that just tucking dries the bread just fast enough to not get mouldy, and dry bread can be just rehydrated by wetting it and putting it in an oven for a bit
I've been making my own bread for like 3 years now and I don't really crave storebought bread at all any more. Mine is just better.
I simply do not allow an open bag of bread to be left unless all the bread have been eaten. Problem solved.
True chaotic evil.
Lawful good for homemade, otherwise lawful neutral until my gf throws out the thingy and forces me to go with chaotic neutral.
I twist, fold then put a clip on it. This also works well with the two common kinds of clips you get with the bag (plastic squareish thing with a hole like in the image and plastic thing with metal wire in it) and other clips you have yourself as the fold makes it so the bag doesn't untwist as much.
You should try a vacuum sealer.
You're going to be opening that package often over a short period. I don't think it's useful to tie it down too tightly, and i especially don't think it's useful to introduce accessories (clip, bottle hack), you'll have to deal with them every single time you open the bag.
It's also just a fucking bread bag, you don't need to secure it so firmly.
Twist and tuck or just tucking, maybe tying a knot if it's going to get jostled a bit (going camping)
The bottle "hack" sounds insane, what a waste of time that is. Although I have seen a lot of things called hacks seem to be like that now, just extra steps that waste time.
I have a feeling a bunch of them are invented by people with hoarding tendencies that aren't at the point where they hoard literal garbage but might be close to that point but trying to justify keeping some things that are garbage-adjacent.
Like I get reusing and repurposing, but not when the "hack" is just more work for a solution that isn't any better than the easier one.
Twist and tuck inside the breadbox obviously.
I save the little clip things from packaged buns and other stuff because they are way better than the twisty ties that usually come on sliced bread.
Freezer that ish
Lawful neutral until 2/3. After neutral evil.
My neutral evil on a small partial loaf is basically rolling it until all the excess is tucked.
How about chaotic chaotic? I do four of these randomly.
This is all evil cuz you are buying it in plastic packaging.
I twist and tuck and keep it in a lower kitchen cabinet. Lasts so much longer than when I’d keep it in the counter. What is my alignment?
I tuck and put in breadbox. Naked in breadbox doesnt last long and it dries out. Tuck is easy to do, to undo and gets the job done as good as anything else when combined with a breadbox.
I never knew just tuck was something somebody could actually do and now I'm scared...
What about a bread bag? Like the kind Keeki makes? Thats what I use.
Where would those fall?
I had to look it up. Apparently it's cloth, sealed with beeswax. I wonder how you're supposed to clean it.
You just turn it inside out and wash with cold water and soap when needed. Then dry in the sun.
You don't arrange them in your bread basket?
A slip-knot works too, if there's enough bag length to pull it off. I don't get the bread box option, there's too much sure exposure, it's gonna make your bread go stale.
Preferred but not listed: twist tie. Superior to the clip and usually not plastic but instead thin wire and paper.
I tuck. I have found that it is the most reliable for keeping it from drying. Mostly j noticed this with bags of chips. Then I adapted that to bread.
Well for me it's the twist-tie until I get down to the last few slices then I just spin the bag and fold it back over itself.
Why the twist-tie wasn't listed is beyond me since I've never seen a store that didn't have them as the majority of closure mechanisms.
Also, bottle hack? I honestly have no idea what that's about.
Guess I'm lawful neutral because I rarely lose the bag clip. I will use a clip when that happens.
natural evil. it's fine
You don't even spin the loaf? That's half the fun
I get my kicks above the waistline, sunshine
Reuse the bag clip if it exists, otherwise tie a knot.