Well thank you! Although I find Klovn to be too cringe for me, I do agree on the other statement, I feel incredibly lucky to be born here, where even born into unfortunate circumstances, it's still possible to get a successful life.
I have watched every episode, it's hilarious. Episodes ranging from them trying "the godfather of drugs" (heroin), to him stealing a wheelchair. I guess it might be too much for some people though, my wife can not watch it for similar reasons.
I feel the same way about being born in Norway. I come from unfortunate circumstances as you call it, and I am doing well. This is thanks to the extensive free education that I have gotten.
Speaking as a fellow Dane, I reject your "touch lips quickly while counting" criteria for language quality, especially since English is much more versatile and universally useful for communication and thus better 😁
That’s what I thought too, but if you google it, w sound is classified as “open mouth” sound by the experts. To me it feels like lips vibrating as sound and breath come through (lips open/close/open as they vibrate).
"Open sounds" (which, I assume, refers to continuants) and bilabial sounds aren't mutually exclusive.
When you pronounce the /w/ at the beginning of "one", your lips round (purse) and touch each other at the corners, but they don't form a full closure. So, the oral tract is still open, but the articulators (moving mouth parts) are still touching.
This could be reworded as "the middle of your lips don't touch each other", but multiple commenters are correct in that your lips absolutely do touch each other when you say "one" in English.
The F sound is usually a labialdental fricative in English. So you are putting your bottom lip on your teeth and letting some air go by to make the F sound.
English has bilabial plosives where you touch both lips together and let air stop for a moment which makes the P or B sounds.
English doesn't have a bilabial fricative so you might be doing this in your dialect and it doesn't stand out to anyone because it doesn't otherwise have a phonetic meaning. But, interestingly, in other languages a bilabial fricative has distinct meaning from a labial dental fricative. I believe I've read that in Japanese the "F" in "Mount Fuji" is actually a bilabial fricative and not the normal F that English speakers use.
The lip-touching streak breaks for just one number: walo (8) and another streak starts with siyam (9) all the way to siyamnapu't-siyam (99) by how two-digit numbers are pronounced. For example: labing-isa (11), walompu't-walo (88).
(I think) there's a lip-touching streak that is longer than this: walong daan at siyamnapu (890) to siyam na raan siyamnapu't siyam na bilyon, siyam na raan siyamnapu't siyam na milyon, siyam na raan siyamnapu't siyam na libo, siyam na raan siyamnapu't siyam (999 999 999 999).
Preventable deaths from covid. Which is where we got when trump REFUSED to take any action for the health of this countries citizens.
In Ohio we have/had Mike DeWine as govenor. Now, DeWine is a republican. And if covid never happened, I wouldn't like DeWine in any way. I don't agree with his politics. I don't agree with his policies. In general I don't support him.
However, for the duration of covid, he listened to health experts. He put in place safety regulations and lockdowns designed to help every single citizen in the face of an at the time uncurable deadly pandemic.
He put aside his ego. He put aside his political party. He put aside all the bullshit and did what was right WHILE HIS OWN PARTY MEMBERS THREW HIM UNDER THE BUS FOR IT.
For that, I have to begrudgingly respect him for what he did. He put the human first at the cost of his own career.
Meanwhile, trump let 1 million plus people die, and shrugged.
Same with Cuomo in NYC. Can’t stand the guy, but he took covid as seriously as Fauci suggested. It was rough, since the first hot spot was in New Rochelle and we didn’t know much about it at first. Nevertheless, people bitched and moaned about lost business while refrigerated trucks full of corpses were lining the streets.
I didn't realize till now I must say 4 incorrectly. My cheeks come in, lips extend outward and mostly touch except a small hole in front of my front teeth, where my top teeth rest on top of my bottom lip. Almost like a lite whistle motion void the teeth touching my lip.
No (assuming English language) you'd need to count to 0-10 and then 12-15, and then 1000 as teens don't match the normal number pronunciation exactly and 1000 brings in the thousand sound.
What if I say "um" somewhere because I lost my place?
Then it's your fault for not saying "uh" instead!
that's one hell of a water bill if you were in the shower counting to one million.
Not if you count using a logarithmic base 10 scale!
Just yell 10! and you've counted way further already
When the thoughts get so deep you turn the water off and just stand there.
In English*
Yup, I can't get past 5 in Norwegian.
I got to three ín Hungarian.
It's 'fem' in Swedish too, guessing it's something similar in Norwegian? In Hebrew the first is 5 too (Chamesh/חמש), so that's an interesting pattern
Yes, it's 'fem' in Norwegian, too..
they do if u kiss me
They do if you kiss yourself in the mirror, but only on the lips
You can only kiss your lips in the mirror
Wise man once said.
Another thought to disturb restful slumber, especially if you are vain: in a mirror you can kiss yourself only on the lips.
Geez, how many accounts does Neil have here...
Not enough, Lemmy is embarrassingly credulous at times.
En, to, tre, fire, fem.
1000000 / 5 = 200000
Here's the proof that Danish is 200.000 times better than English.
In romanian, it ends at 4. Romanian is 25% better than dutch and 250000 times better than english
That's a very low bar tho
1 more and you learn why Swedish is superior.
One more and Germans get in on the action. And they get to say sechs (sex) right before.
As long as you have that ridiculous "to og en halvfjers" counting system, you do not have a superior system 😉
Haha! Yeah truth be told, our number system is completely stupid 😂
Besides the number system you got most things under control in Denmark.
You also have one of the greatest shows, Klovn 😂
Well thank you! Although I find Klovn to be too cringe for me, I do agree on the other statement, I feel incredibly lucky to be born here, where even born into unfortunate circumstances, it's still possible to get a successful life.
I have watched every episode, it's hilarious. Episodes ranging from them trying "the godfather of drugs" (heroin), to him stealing a wheelchair. I guess it might be too much for some people though, my wife can not watch it for similar reasons.
I feel the same way about being born in Norway. I come from unfortunate circumstances as you call it, and I am doing well. This is thanks to the extensive free education that I have gotten.
Speaking as a fellow Dane, I reject your "touch lips quickly while counting" criteria for language quality, especially since English is much more versatile and universally useful for communication and thus better 😁
Found the american.
I only have to count to 5
fem?
Ja
Don't laugh at him it's not nice.
https://youtu.be/u8ccGjar4Es
same, but it's pet (five)
It applies to any English-speaking country, which makes sense since it's written in English.
I love this! It doesn't seem like it could possibly be true, but my 30 seconds of testing haven't debunked it.
7 sieben, Bruder
5 fimm, bróðir
And then they touch for every number until 1 trillion
My lips touch when I say one.
jedem?
dwa?
Portuguese (Brasil): 1 (um)
Is this this case in Brasil? In european portuguese your lips don't touch for um
Yeah, forgot to specify ;P
Oh shiiit thats trippy!
Lies.
Sieben
Fem :(
Kolme - that’s 3 in Finnish
Sieben
!remindme sixty years when i confirm
We do miss that bot here.
there was this one but it had to be whitelisted and i didnt want to spam so i just faked it :)
https://github.com/PangoraWeb/remindme-bot
Made me silently count to ten to confirm. Mind expanded.
I'm still counting
Unless I do it in my native language, Finnish. Then I'll only get to three.
Norwegians are supreme in the Nordics. We can count to five.
One point five.. d'oh!
π
Joke's on you, I'm Roman.
My lips already touch at 𝕄.
Mine touch at pebenty peben.
Egy, kettő, három
3 in hungarian
ce, ome, yei, nahui (Nahuatl)
I guess you win
Maybe, but how long do you have to count for your eyelids to touch?
Un deux trois... Mille ! In French (France 🇫🇷) 1000 before lips touch.
... Soixante-neuf, septante ! In French (Switzerland 🇨🇭) 70! (in France it's soixante-dix 😂)
How to say 90 in Swiss French? In French French the (40x2+10) way drives me crazy
Nonante!
And 80 is octante or huitante depending on the region
It is a little simpler than this base20 thing lol
technically, 4x20+10?
Yep right
[OFF TOPIC]
TIL there are italic emojis. 🏠
Just counted out loud, one....lips touched.
That’s what I thought too, but if you google it, w sound is classified as “open mouth” sound by the experts. To me it feels like lips vibrating as sound and breath come through (lips open/close/open as they vibrate).
screw googling. try saying it yourself without touching lips.
it comes out as "oen".
I guess we're all different, my lips definitely touched when saying one. There's got to be an outlier for everything I guess.
"Open sounds" (which, I assume, refers to continuants) and bilabial sounds aren't mutually exclusive.
When you pronounce the /w/ at the beginning of "one", your lips round (purse) and touch each other at the corners, but they don't form a full closure. So, the oral tract is still open, but the articulators (moving mouth parts) are still touching.
This could be reworded as "the middle of your lips don't touch each other", but multiple commenters are correct in that your lips absolutely do touch each other when you say "one" in English.
and how high did OP have to count before he touched somebody else's lips the first time?
In English, my lips touch when I make the "f" sound at the start of four. I am also pretty sure they touch for one.
I'm not sure about this. The only way I can make my lips touch when saying that number is if I actually say pour.
Thought the same, but you're right, putting both lips together makes a plosive.
Nope, for me my bottom teeth touch my upper lips.
The F sound is usually a labialdental fricative in English. So you are putting your bottom lip on your teeth and letting some air go by to make the F sound.
English has bilabial plosives where you touch both lips together and let air stop for a moment which makes the P or B sounds.
English doesn't have a bilabial fricative so you might be doing this in your dialect and it doesn't stand out to anyone because it doesn't otherwise have a phonetic meaning. But, interestingly, in other languages a bilabial fricative has distinct meaning from a labial dental fricative. I believe I've read that in Japanese the "F" in "Mount Fuji" is actually a bilabial fricative and not the normal F that English speakers use.
I meant to say upper teeth to bottom lip, not the other way around.
My upper teeth touch my bottom lip when I do.
Whoops, that's what I meant. Me too.
I cover my bottom teeth with my bottom lip at the start so the lips touch on 'four'
Nah, definitely happens at 300 with 三百
Edit: in japanese, but I didn't list my language since OP didn't bother.
八
Empat
apat (4), lima (5), anim (6), pito (7)...
The lip-touching streak breaks for just one number: walo (8) and another streak starts with siyam (9) all the way to siyamnapu't-siyam (99) by how two-digit numbers are pronounced. For example: labing-isa (11), walompu't-walo (88).
(I think) there's a lip-touching streak that is longer than this: walong daan at siyamnapu (890) to siyam na raan siyamnapu't siyam na bilyon, siyam na raan siyamnapu't siyam na milyon, siyam na raan siyamnapu't siyam na libo, siyam na raan siyamnapu't siyam (999 999 999 999).
In Chinese yes, in japanese, no (8 would be hachi, 300 is sanbyaku but that n before b is pronounced as m)
what about thirmty three
This is my favourite shower thought post so far.
forget what number you're on and say, "um".
Un, dau, tri, pedwar. Nope, they touch at what you call four.
In a lot of Indo-European languages you're stopping right at 5, *pénkʷe. For example Greek (πέντε pénte) and Sanskrit (पञ्चन् páñcan).
Huh. Same in Dutch!
Not in German tho. Sieben
Ah ja, in Dutch that would be "zeven".
Maybe some people touch lips when saying the "F", in that case we would fail at "vijf" (fünf)
Mine touch at sebbin.
1000 touches.
In french :-)
Touche, ça touche pas
Et touche pas ça touche
Ha ha je connais celui là 😁
until 1 million what?
Preventable deaths from covid. Which is where we got when trump REFUSED to take any action for the health of this countries citizens.
In Ohio we have/had Mike DeWine as govenor. Now, DeWine is a republican. And if covid never happened, I wouldn't like DeWine in any way. I don't agree with his politics. I don't agree with his policies. In general I don't support him.
However, for the duration of covid, he listened to health experts. He put in place safety regulations and lockdowns designed to help every single citizen in the face of an at the time uncurable deadly pandemic.
He put aside his ego. He put aside his political party. He put aside all the bullshit and did what was right WHILE HIS OWN PARTY MEMBERS THREW HIM UNDER THE BUS FOR IT.
For that, I have to begrudgingly respect him for what he did. He put the human first at the cost of his own career.
Meanwhile, trump let 1 million plus people die, and shrugged.
Same with Cuomo in NYC. Can’t stand the guy, but he took covid as seriously as Fauci suggested. It was rough, since the first hot spot was in New Rochelle and we didn’t know much about it at first. Nevertheless, people bitched and moaned about lost business while refrigerated trucks full of corpses were lining the streets.
:(
I had coworkers that died... working at a hospital during that time was a nightmare
Is that when your lips touched?
In Belgian French it's 70, and in French² it's 1000
Three, two, one, zero, minus one.
一 二 三 四 五 六 七 八
8 “ba”
是的，我是美国人。我的文法很不好。
pięć [guess the language]
3 before my lips touch.
correct me if I'm wrong, but it's up to 1000 in Spanish, right? I'm wondering if I'm saying 9 right.
Four, five, ...
F is still not lip-to-lip, because air is leaking out your mouth between teeth and lip.
M, all the air comes out your nose, mouth is closed.
N, it's your tongue stopping the air and sending it through your nose, lips are open.
Its the m- like plosive thingy?
Did you mean M?
Can't count to "mun" without putting your lips together
Twelve kinda makes mine touch
Easily verifiable by counting to from 0 to 10.
I didn't realize till now I must say 4 incorrectly. My cheeks come in, lips extend outward and mostly touch except a small hole in front of my front teeth, where my top teeth rest on top of my bottom lip. Almost like a lite whistle motion void the teeth touching my lip.
Lip on teeth isn't lip-to-lip
I move my lips the same way you do. Another poster mentioned four, five as well.
It's not incorrect though - there's not really such a thing as pronouncing incorrectly. People just speak how they speak and it's always changing.
No (assuming English language) you'd need to count to 0-10 and then 12-15, and then 1000 as teens don't match the normal number pronunciation exactly and 1000 brings in the thousand sound.
Why did 11 get skipped? Also wouldn't 14 get skipped if we don't count 16-19
Also what about 20?
Oh yeah. Ok loads of extras than just 0-10
odin dva tri chetire Piat
5 in Russian