Libs of TikTok is a handle for various far-right[a] and anti-LGBT[b] social-media accounts operated by Chaya Raichik (/ˈxɑːjə ˈraɪtʃɪk/ KHAH-yə RY-chik),[10] a former real estate agent.[11][12][13] Raichik uses the accounts to repost content created by left-wing and LGBT people on TikTok, and on other social-media platforms, often with hostile, mocking, or derogatory commentary.
“Chaya Raichik” isn’t a good aryan name. It sounds foreign. I say this cause who she is as a person and who she associates with seems to support fascist and ethno-nationalist ideals.
Honestly it’s good for the MAGA crowd to see that normal people in America are armed too. They see themselves as wolves among sheep, while the masses are armed only with their useless empathy and critical thinking skills.
Ive legit met a couple who were surprised I like blades and that I collect them. My three favorite ones are my 1942 Machete made for the US Army, my modern Ka-bar I bought at the Army surplus warehouse in Idaho Falls, and an M3 knife replica I bought from a local dealer.
Now imagine how theyd react if I had a gun, though if shit goes down ill just jack it from one of their still warm corpses.
Honestly if it makes it any better I dont know what the actual fuck possessed me to writ it that way. Guess thats what I get for writing comments while slowly losing it playing Wasteland 1. Seriously how did folks play this in the 80s.
Yeah, also its just as important to know how to use them as well. Which means for example I am well adept at using a Ka-bar and a shovel since I use them quite frequently around my property, this isnt even that much of a joke familiarity with something weight alone can help quite a bit. But slight joking aside my original comment was probably the most unflattering and worst way I could have stated that, but its kinda funny in a mid 2000s 4chan sorta way so ill leave it.
Got my CCW after trump won in 2016, didn't end up needing it
Got plates after this one, I'm not going to be a protest without it and a rifle.
It sounds like an escalation, but a show of force prevents a lot of violence, and it works especially well on the people we're protesting. Like, that's not a dig. Due to brain differences it's harder to win over the right by appealing to empathy or facts and logic.
Everyone that works on is already mostly on our side.
What works on conservatives is fear of immediate consequences. You think a trumpet would drive into protesters when a dozen would actually open fire and make them legit "fear for their lives"?
Hell, they overrun the Capitol because cops just had Glocks and riot gear...
These days a protest ain't safe unless people are posted up.
I always believed in the 2A, though up to now i never owned one, don’t hunt game, and owning a gun is an extra responsibility i didn’t feel the need to take on. Though this has changed recently as i am a proud yet reluctant owner of an SFAR. I also got my gas mask with NATO cartridges.
Shooting can absolutely be fun - not just a tool to fight oppression. "Can I shoot something smaller and further away?" is a question you can keep asking yourself!
I come from hillbillies, so technically I owned a rifle and a shotgun before I was ever born.
But I never went thru the hassle of getting a CCW and small pistol to carry.
But shits fucking crazy these days. Like I've lived in some rough areas, and had plenty of people show me their gun as intimidation since I was a punk teenager. But I was never seriously worried about getting shot, people had something to lose and I was never doing something that was worth it.
Nowadays people with a good job and family are just firing off over incredibly minor shit.
Everyone is just willing to throw it all away over nothing.
I really think we're gonna find out COVID caused similar issues to lead poisoning even among minor cases with no symptoms. People just have no chill, and everyone and their mother is strapped here now.
I also got my gas mask with NATO cartridges
You really don't need it. Tear gas in an open environment is not bad, you move 10 feet away for a few minutes.
People will tell you tennis rackets is the move, but that could lead to serious charges if used to hit one back at cops.
What you need is buckets. They fire a can, you cap it. If you do have to retreat, someone will likely (completely on accident and without any malice) knock it over releasing the tear gas and slowing the cops.
I was in the military, and i had one. Seemed like a thing to get, and it couldn’t hurt. You are right about the buckets, i have seen those work well in protests. The police had to resort to shooting protestors in the face with the grenades instead, blew someones eye out of their skull.
That's a very modern interpretation of the second amendment popularized by conservatives. What it means 'literally' is hotly debated but only relatively recently did conservative pundents push this definition away from the arguably more 'literal' concept of organized state militias.
If you think an arms race between liberal activists and right wing racist hillbillies (ie. Most of America) is going to end with the armed liberals winning, you need to check out the gun cabinets and gun sheds of the conservative homes in my town.
Every time I see a ridiculous call to arms post like this on Lemmy I put some money aside to donate to one of my favorite gun control charities.
Just because people don't put them in a literal showcase and make it their entire personality doesn't mean they don't own as many they just don't want to get robbed as badly.
The rulings testing the militia part of the clause go back a long way establishing it is not a necessary part (and certainly it doesn't read that way).
Also Everytown's ideas are not based on evidence or even common sense. They can fuck right off.
I find it kinda amazing that they act shocked that Transpeople are arming and antifa is showing up armed when these motherfuckers have been brandishing firearms at their gatherings since literally forever.
To conservative white mean, tyranny means having to pay an income tax to support social programs, not being allowed to marry 13 year olds, or the government pushing renewable energy over coal.
To other groups, tyranny has a slightly more real meaning.
I have historically been pretty pro gun control because my life had seen the US generally becoming more socially progressive and supportive of marginalized groups (whether that was truly the case is another question), but the last 5-10 years have me seriously walking back on that stance.
I haven't met many pro-2A peeps that are against the left or minorities owning firearms. Most seem to loudly support it, actually. Taking responsibility for your own safety is generally a good idea.
Agreed, that is definitely what they would say and believe. Not just any pro-2A people but your conservative trumper gun nuts too.
But the insidious thing about the conservative mind is that by necessity it leans into biases to mislead and fool itself. So they may not believe they are lying, yet somehow we’ll get gun control when LGBT and minorities are the ones waving around guns at protests, even though massacred children weren’t enough.
Use their good will until then and there won't be an easy way to implement gun control against the left. Fucking red flag laws might be weaponized, but nobody pays attention until fucky laws are pointed at them.
According to the Behind the Bastards about Guthrie (they always do a Christmas episode about a non-bastard), it was a standard thing to put on machines used to build stuff for the war.
The King assassination riots, also known as the Holy Week Uprising,[2] were a wave of civil disturbance which swept across the United States following the assassination of Martin Luther King Jr. on April 4, 1968.
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Dr. King had campaigned for a federal fair housing law throughout 1966, but had not achieved it.[36] Senator Walter Mondale advocated for the bill in Congress, but noted that over successive years, a fair housing bill was the most filibustered legislation in US history.[37] It was opposed by most Northern and Southern senators, as well as the National Association of Real Estate Boards. Mondale commented that:
A lot of [previous] civil rights [legislation] was about making the South behave and taking the teeth from George Wallace ... This came right to the neighborhoods across the country. This was civil rights getting personal.
The assassination and subsequent riots quickly revived the bill.[38][39][27][40] On April 5, Johnson wrote a letter to the United States House of Representatives urging passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1968, which included the Fair Housing Act.[31] The Rules Committee, "jolted by the repeated civil disturbances virtually outside its door," finally ended its hearings on April 8.[41] With newly urgent attention from White House legislative director Joseph Califano and Speaker of the House John McCormack, the bill—which was previously stalled that year—passed the House by a wide margin on April 10.[25]
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For some liberals and civil rights advocates, the riots were a turning point.
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The assassination and riots radicalized many, helping to fuel the Black Power movement.[42]
In after the rise of the Black Panthers and the increased unity caused by the death of MLK the movement rallied together and kept pushing which led to integration the right to vote.
As for calling me ruzzian, fuck you drag. I've seen you around here and you're always spitting some dumb bootlicker shit.
this is what we need. Parity. Like guns or not, you need them at this point or you're just going to be under the boot without ever having the tools you needed to fight back.
That's basically every metropolitan city in the US.
45 minutes outside of DC you'll find plenty of MAGA mouthbreathers who directly benefit from their proximity, but who never see the irony of their opinions.
Marginalized groups should bring more weapons to protests, then maybe we could get some god damn gun regulations like back when the NRA was against the black panthers brandishing them in public.
Now, as an average libsoftiktok follower, where do I call in the bomb threat? The gun owners house for owning the transgender gun? The gun manufacturer for making a transgender gun? The NRA for not making transgender guns illegal? The state capitol for allowing the transgender gun on their grounds? Or nowhere because there's evidence of the thing actually happening?
People: please do not carry an AK. Just get an AR. ARs have interchangeable parts, ammunition is cheap, and aside from Bear Creek Arsenal, they're going to just work. AKs require significant hand fitting and there's no single standard, ammunition prices have risen sharply since the cheap milsurp ammo flow got cut off, and at the cheaper end they tend to be dangerous to the user. Yes, I know that AKs have a reputation got working in adverse conditions, but that reputation dates to the Vietnam war, when the AR was a new platform; modern ARs are far, far more reliable and accurate than an AK.
You can still get an AK for fun, but don't don't treat it like your serious gun.
I have a buddy who did gun repairs, he fucking hates AR-15s. If you want a gun that ticks all the boxes, get a 12 gauge shotgun. It's a cheap, widely available platform that has cheap and widely available ammo, it just fucking works, it's easy to care for, easy to use, pretty standard maintenance, and will kill what you need it to. They're lethal much further out than video games imply, because otherwise they'd completely wreck the balance of the game.
Edit: I asked him for his specific beef with ARs, this was his response.
They're a bitch to clean. There's lots of places that need to be cleaned that can't be reached easily, tons of little pockets and grooves you can't get into; requires a dental pick, star shaped cleaning patches, and a shit load of cotton swabs to get through.
If it's locked up, you can't knock on the charging handle or emergency kick the charging handle to clear it. You will not be able to field strip this rifle if it's jammed out of battery.
Aluminum gas blocks are apparently very popular, and they will corrode to failure at the gas tube port.
The extractor pin will often shatter in place, which causes intermittent failure while not looking wrong unless you know what you're looking for.
Thanks for the context. I was never interested in owning an AR myself, not to mention that it seems to me like they're way overpriced due to a lot of them being glam guns. He did it for a living for years, so I took him at his word.
While you did answer the question, it is better to clear a jam by pulling back on the charging handle, possibly while also mortoring the buttstock. Hitting the forward assist is just as likely to make the jam worse. (This also counts for AKs, this isn't an AR only thing)
Some newer ARs don't come with forward assists anymore, sometimes to prevent people from making jams worse, but usually cause they're for sport and if your rifle malfunctions in a way that needs a forward assist, you can just take the L and get off the range to solve the issue.
Regardless, if you hit the forward assist, just make sure you're in a position that this might be the last round you can fire without doing some maintenance.
But you are correct, ARs are as popular as they are for a reason. They're reliable, easy to get parts for, and ammo (while expensive) is just about everywhere.
Your buddy may have an unfounded bias against them, as AR-15's are in general extremely reliable, and don't require much maintainence or cleaning for the most part, especially since most people don't practice all that much.
A shotgun is a great choice for defense though, and often is a better choice than an AR.
If you want a gun that ticks all the boxes, get a 12 gauge shotgun
Disagree.
First, ammo starts at a minimum of 44cpr for 00 buck. Second, unless you get mag fed shotguns--which have their own problems--you're getting a maximum of about 7 rounds. Third, if you're talking about pump guns, it's pretty easy to short stroke one in a high-stress situation. Gas guns are a different matter, but they're pickier about ammo. Fourth--again, unless you have a mag fed shotgun--reloading is not nearly as quick and easy as it is with any firearm with a magazine.
If it’s locked up, you can’t knock on the charging handle or emergency kick the charging handle to clear it.
You mortar them; that usually gets it. I've had to do that a few times.
Yeah, a detail strip and clean is a bastard. But you don't really need to do those very often. A field strip and clean is sufficient most of the time.
If you want a gun that ticks all the boxes, get a 12 gauge shotgun. It's a cheap, widely available platform that has cheap and widely available ammo, it just fucking works, it's easy to care for, easy to use, pretty standard maintenance, and will kill what you need it to. They're lethal much further out than video games imply, because otherwise they'd completely wreck the balance of the game.
Yeah, with a 12 gauge shell of 00 buckshot, every pull of the trigger is almost like mag dumping a 9mm handgun in that direction. Very destructive very quickly at indoor distances, a little bit of wiggle room with the aiming m, and less risk of overpenetration than something like a rifle or a big caliber handgun.
A 12 gauge pump shotgun is actually the only firearm in my house(in the US), and I got it over 30 years ago. I kind of want to get a 9mm handgun, but it doesn’t feel like an immediate need given the shotgun.
A couple things I have to note, also as someone that used to do gun repairs and basic gunsmithing for a shop back in the day:
They are a bitch to clean, but the right tools can make it a lot easier. Get a boresnake, proper cleaning solvent and lube, patches and brushes, both brass and regular brush. Watch a youtube video and learn how to properly clean it. Pop out the two push pins and field strip it and cleaning it is rather easy. For the upper run boresnake through with solvent and patches until clean, then run it through again with lube. EZ.
(Also learn to clean or at least do a half-ass clean if time is a problem after every range visit, we got so many firearms that looked like they hadn't been cleaned in years and were always a real bitch to take care of. My personal favorite was someone upset that we couldn't magically restore his "5 years in a garage in Florida humidity in a duffel bag never fired or cleaned" that was rusted and pitted to hell, and that it couldn't be brought back to factory new for 30 bucks 😂)
I haven't personally had this happen to me, but also range use will vary wildly from combat use so I can't speak on this too much.
They are because aluminum is very popular for manufacturing. If taken care of properly, this won't be an issue. See above that most people don't clean and maintain theirs properly lmao
Skill issue. Memes aside a good quality BCG is important for this reason. More people need to learn how the parts work on their build and change out parts as necessary if they are having issues with certain parts of it.
Not really, no. It's true that you aren't going to be sniping anyone with a shotgun, and it's also dependent on the shot you're using, but shotguns are used to hit ducks in flight, turkey, and deer (among others), which are all usually going to be a bit further away than your average hallway. Generally, birdshot is worthless for people outside of very close range; I once ran a call where someone got shot with birdshot from across the street and they might as well have been hit point blank with an airsoft gun. If that had been buckshot or a slug, they would have been completely fried. The tradeoff that you do with shot is that a finer shot will have a wider and denser cloud of projectiles, but each of those projectiles has less mass (and therefore momentum) for penetrating power. Buckshot is basically throwing a handful of (smaller) old school ball shot at whatever you're pointing at, and whatever you hit is going to have a bad time. I personally prefer the heavier 000 (triple-ought) buck to 00 (double-ought) buckshot, but either works great. A slug is going to have the best range and penetrating power; at close range, a slug will defeat any non-ceramic body armor, and people wearing ceramic are still going to be very unhappy. Of course, a slug also requires the best aim, because it's just one solid chunk of metal. in either case, I would say that shotguns with buckshot and slugs are entirely appropriate for personal defense in or out of the home, and urban combat.
I understand some people might look away from the AR-15 because it's the gun everyone has which takes away from the cool factor, or maybe you just dislike its connotation due to high use among right-wing folk, but this person speaks the truth.
AR-15s are common because they work. Customizations and spare parts are cheap, effective, and widely available. So are good magazines, which are typically a shockingly difficult part to design well and the place where many otherwise decent guns fail. .223 Remington has one of most varied supplies of ammunition on the market, beaten only by things like 12 gauge.
Don't buy weird shit until you own one of these (or at least a pump-action 12 gauge ffs).
No lie! They've been available to civilians since the 60s. They weren't popular because they're not the best in any particular class. But they're easy and don't kick.
Sure, but also wheelguns were also considered more reliable and better than semi autos at the time.
AR ban expiration came around the same time as people were getting more used to gucci guns and mods.
There were a lot of other guns that got unbanned at the same time. The AR platform just happened to be ready for a resurgence right around the time that the expiration.
it's the gun everyone has...they work. Customizations and spare parts are cheap, effective, and widely available. So are good magazines, which are typically a shockingly difficult part to design well and the place where many otherwise decent guns fail. .223 Remington has one of most varied supplies of ammunition on the market, ...also easier to work on than most guns.
Of course lol. This "the right wingers like it so boo" mentality some (not you ykwim) have is bonkos, they also like water y'know?
AR-15s are popular because there's a single standard, and all the parts made should fit that standard, and more-or-less work. I can buy a barrel from any one of ten or more manufacturers, and I know that it's going to fit on my receiver (although I might need a different gas tube). You can't do that with a Ruger Mini-14, you definitely can't do it with any of the fuck-knows-how-many AK variants. ARs do have their own shortcomings it's true, but all rifles have shortcomings; the AR-15 platform does a pretty good job of balancing the competing needs and desires.
I don't think that opinions will necessarily change even if NATO decides to use a new rifle. Even if the US and NATO eventually adopt the Sig XM7 in 6.8x51mm, AR-15s will still be cheap, ammo plentiful, and they'll all still be on the same standard. (Plus, the 6.8x51mm cartridge is a real barrel burner; if you're a higher volume shooter, you'll get maybe 5000 rounds out of it before accuracy is shot--pardon the pun--to hell.) But, we'll see. So far the design has stuck around and been refined for over 50 years. Hell, people still use the 1911, and that's over 100 years old.
AR-15s will still be cheap, ammo plentiful, and they’ll all still be on the same standard.
Oh, they will... Just like the AK. Then, we'll have people arguing over if everyone should switch to the XM7 platform, over the AR, because the AR is so useless, and incapable of anything reliable, yadda yadda yadda.
Again, the AR is only as popular as it is because of a marketing campaign by the US gun industry, that started backed in the early 80's, in order to sell machismo to returning Vietnam vets. I mean, they weren't all that popular in the 70's, even thought you could mail order a full auto rifle. People were declaring the M1 Garand to be far superior, because "So many parts, ease of maintenance, everyone knows how to use them, ergonomics don't need training" etc etc etc.
The exact thing you hear people say about the AR vs AK, or AR vs M1, etc etc
I think that I originally paid about $550 for my S&W M&P 15 Sport 2 (although not many parts are original anymore); you can get a perfectly serviceable Palmetto State Armory AR-15 for $450. An AK is likely going to start at around $700.
As someone much more clever than I said, the real transgender AK is the AR that's chambered in7.62x39mm.
I completely agree with everything except the bit about Bear Creek, I can't talk shit when my 300blk upper from them runs well 😂
I mean, nobody wants to admit that they ate 9 cans of ravioli own a BCA, but I do and it's actually been surprisingly nice.
Okay memes aside, if buying BCA/PSA tier bottom bin parts know how to inspect them and make sure that they're good quality. With any firearm purchase actually give it a good look over, clean and prep it, know how to do little things like sanding down a feed ramp with a little bit of time and sandpaper (youtube is great for this). Don't just buy something planning to just shove it in the closet and not do any sort of work or prep or testing it at the range because if you do that, it's going to be a lot worse if you need it to work and it doesn't :)
This is such a weird take. AKs also 'just work', most people will never have to hand-fit anything on an AK, and ammo prices for AK are at parity with ammo prices for AR. The cheapest end of anything can be dangerous to the user, so again that's another non-point. The majority of people aren't going to see a major functional difference between the two, it comes down to personal preference.
Wut? AR-10s have different competing standards, and tend to be strangely finicky. (I've got an AR-10 in 6.5CM; it's really picky about ammunition.) The AR-10 was never adopted by the military; I think that you're thinking of the M-14.
AKs also ‘just work’, most people will never have to hand-fit anything on an AK
That's because it's going to come assembled (hopefully). But if you ever need to replace a part? Good luck, because you're going to need it. OTOH, when I replaced the barrel, hand guard, trigger, BCG, etc. on my rifle, it was all very much plug-n-play.
ammo prices for AK are at parity with ammo prices for AR
They most definitely are not. Ammo prices for 5.56x45mm NATO start as low as 23.7cpr, if you're willing to shoot reman; if you want new, then 30.5cpr. Ammunition for 7.62x39mm starts at 38.9cpr, and that's steel case bi-metal bullets. If you want brass cases, they start at 45cpr. That means that a single 30 round magazine costs about $9.15 for an AR, and $11.67-$13 for an AK.
The majority of people aren’t going to see a major functional difference between the two
If you mean the majority of people that buy a rifle and then never use it, sure. If you're talking about people that actually go out and shoot, you're definitely wrong.
An easy example is ballistics. I have a 50/200y zero. I have to aim low and 100y by about 2", and at 500y I'll have about a 45" holdover. My LPVO has hash marks for ranges, and it's mostly right. An AK variant usually has a 25y zero; at 500y, your holdover is at least 80", and as much as 120", depending on the ammunition. You aren't likely going to find too many LPVOs that have holdover marks calibrated for an AK, so you'll probably be eyeballing it with a red dot and a magnifier. You can make hits out to 500y with an AK, but it's going to be a lot harder.
yes, I was saying that an ar-10 fit the poster's description of an AK better than actual AK rifles, for that reason.
But if you ever need to replace a part?
That's the best part! I won't! I owned one for years, I could dig post holes with the damn thing. I sincerely regret selling it.
They most definitely are not
Shipping makes those numbers very fudgy, I see one offer for 7.62 that beats many of the 5.56 offers just by giving free shipping. I'm willing to meet you at 'they're close' but in no way is 5.56 vastly less expensive. Not like 9mm less expensive!
If you mean the majority of people that buy a rifle and then never use it, sure. If you’re talking about people that actually go out and shoot, you’re definitely wrong.
Right, so like I said the vast majority of gun owners. Super Gun Nerds will always have a sincere appreciation for use cases that the vast majority of gun owners will not encounter at any point. Home defense happens under 25 yards. Soft points and a wooded area would give you a hunting experience that grandpa's 30-30 would feel quite comfortable in. They tend to be reliable and even decently accurate until the barrel heats up. They're not the same gun, but it's not a bad gun, and the benefits you're touting are completely overblown. Either one is better than none at all. It's easy to make up an edge case to prove your point, I could probably find an edge case in which AK was fully superior but that's not the point I'm trying to make, the point is for the majority of gun owners would not see a significant difference, and for the edge case users you'll find another edge case waiting to tear your argument down.
It's been done before. Redneck Revolt (antifascist) even had a temporary relationship with a full-on lolbert militia (American Pit Vipers) after APV saw all the disgusting neo-nazis at Charlottesville and realised that antifascists aren't crying wolf.
FYI there's an organization called the Socialist Rifle Association. They're kind of like a very inclusive version of the NRA I suppose. I found out about them through a short documentary on youtube called Arming the Left.
Ugh. I still hate guns. Guns kill people and the US obsession with them will never make sense to me.
But at this point it's probably good that it's not only the supporters if the lunatic fascist oligarchy that are armed. It hurts to admit, but I'd rather see a Nazi shot dead than a decent human being. Heck, if I were in the US I might learn how to shoot a gun at this point.
Marx died around the time that automatic firearms became a thing. For fighting tyranny bolt actions are solid. For mass murdering defenseless children, automatic weapons are more suited.
On the other hand if Marx had witnessed modern surveillance capitalism, he might had advocated for everyone to own automatic grenade launchers...
For Guerilla warfare you don't seek an "open battle", but rather surprise attacks.
Ofc. it goes from using simpler weapons to conquering more advanced weapons from the regime, or making Police/Army units defect with their equipment.
Finally a murderous regime will not crack down on Guerillas by fighting them directly, but mostly through terrorizing all Civilians in the hope of hitting the Guerillas too.
Ugh. I still hate guns. Guns kill people and the US obsession with them will never make sense to me.
I hate it too, but not because I don't understand it, but because I do.
Americans are children, they are ruled by their action hero fantasies more than practicality. You can tell that they have such a mindset because they fear going without a weapon more than going without a medic. Only Barbarians and Children do that.
I say this as an American who has to deal with these kinds of people on a daily basis.
They're for gun rights within the scope of their interpretation of the constitution. It's starts out "We the people" and when you don't consider someone a person, you don't consider them to have those same rights.
You make the fatal flaw of thinking there's reasoning behind their beliefs. They make up reasons to justify their beliefs. These reasons are always narrow-in-scope and context-dependant, but are often presented as generalized statements. They will change their argument to suit their aims.
I am all for this wave of "Pink Panthers" arming themselves. Hopefully it will lead to some actual gun control laws, because it scares the cowardly fascists.
Yep maggots would say "sex offenders" should be banned from gun ownership
Let me reiterate. Maggots have attempted to label the entire LGBTQ community as sex offenders against children only because of their orientation. This would be their playbook for grabbing their guns without having to give up theirs
You joke, but carry and purchase laws were literally created to stop black people from carrying or purchasing X locally "restricted" item, but over time some areas stopped using them that way and got more permissive about it, some areas started making it harder for everyone so at least it isn't racist but fuck everybody, and some areas still use what laws are in place for their intended purpose (see: North Carolina recently took away their pistol purchase permit requirement, but before they did 60% of denials were to african americans.)
It very well might be no guns for gays/trans, it would just be worded differently as "concealed carry permits" or "purchase permits" that "require review" by the local authorities including your social media as many advocate for or medical history (that one may be harder because HIPPA but would be called "mental health checks" officially, requiring you to sign a waiver when applying for the permit.) Or by using all that data that people who "have nothing to hide" are freely giving to companies that sell it to the NSA, "sorry our database says you visited the local gay bar 'buttchuggers' a whole bunch, we don't think you're morally fit to own firearms and have denied your request." It could happen. Will it? Who knows, but they did it to a different group before and could very well do it again.
On the plus side they can't fuck with their own base too hard, so we probably don't have to worry about some of that any time soon like the mental health checks. Anything already in place like CCW permits however can safely be abused, and blamed on the democrats if anyone in their base even cares (as they won't be further affected by abuse of the existing laws than they already are.)
There's are multiple leftist gun associations and they all have my full support (and the SRA has my membership).
Unlike the MAGA lunatics, the left actually has something to protect: those who are under attack and are unable to protect themselves. The women and the LGBTQ+ people in our country NEED to be able to protect themselves because the government is obviously not interested in their safety.
These organizations are not militias. We don't plan attacks, we don't conspire to subvert order. Our purpose is to train and protect those who need protection the most.
I'm pretty anti-gun despite being on the left, but I think I've seen this person her at protests before and if anyone's gonna have a gun I'd prefer it be her over anyone else.
I'm in favor of regulating guns, and I feel like keeping one on my person / in my living space actually increases my risk of injury. However, I also think it's a good idea to know how to violently resist if necessary. (I have shot pistols, shotguns, and rifles before.) And, I don't think it's unreasonable for people of any political persuasion to have access to armaments in case they need to "fertilize the tree of liberty with the blood of tyrants".
I've read that having a gun in your house does increase your risk of being shot. That being said, I understand that having guns helped groups like the Panthers keep their communities safer. I don't think they'll help us most of the time in resisting a dictatorship, though. If we beat the fascists, I think more of it will come from sabotage, mass strikes, etc, as opposed to shooting.
Most gun owners believe that those statistics don't apply to them. I believe they do apply to me (since I do live with a gun owner).
I agree that resistance is unlikely to primarily take the form of infantry combat, but it wouldn't surprise me if some communities do have to repel an armed force, which will be much more difficult without at least some community members having access to and proficiency with small arms.
Yeah, that's fair. I usually don't talk gun politics anyway because of all the insurmountable issues the US faces, that's probably the most insurmountable.
I'd be armed if my wife wasn't so leery about firearms. She and my father-in-law are part of a ethnic minority that is specifically targeted by white supremacists and my state has active Nazi and Third Position groups. Given the way shit's going, I want to be prepared for anything.
you should have a discussion about it, see if her views have changed since the election.
Shits scary outside right now, wishing you the best of health ❤️
I fully support anyone and everyone being armed. It’s a shame we can’t have them here in the Netherlands, but I’m very pro-self defense and self reliance. The government will only protect you so far, if that. And an armed group is much less likely to get fucked with.
I support gays with AK’s, queers with auto sears, transfems with FN’s and everyone else who feels the need to protect themselves and each other.
Oh I expect most to go elsewhere, but the portion that end up on lemmy, after doing a search for reddit alternatives, will end up here. The greater portion probably won't end up at a single place, as there aren't any reddit alternatives in the way that reddit was an alternative to digg.
Honestly, a cheap Condor carrier will be fine for most people, they hold up well.
I'd recommend getting plates from Redstar defense, they're extremely good for the money, and they're one of the only leftist makers around (they also sell at-cost first aid kits with high quality NAR gear, and carriers).
If this thing goes on for four years as it has gone for the last 2 weeks, there's definitely going to be some mass shootings committed by trans people in USA.
I fully intend (and I'm aware of the risks of saying this online, I don't care), to burn down government buildings if they actually declare war on Canada. Until then, I'll keep to my peaceful protesting and spreading happiness and dissent at my workplace until there's enough wiggle room for a union to show up
Don't say incriminating things on social media just because you're behind a username.
The glowies are watching, and the Fediverse doesn't really protect your anonymity in general while also being run by individuals who can be arrested and their servers seized without having a corporate oligarchy getting upset about it.
As stated, I'm well aware of the risks involved with this kind of statement. Again, as stated, I'm not concerned.
While this statement is a threat to my OpSec, my government is currently incapable of tying my name or identity to a phone number. By the time they start caring about my comment right here, I'll have much bigger issues. (I know that claim sounds ridiculous but it's actually been a regular hurdle in my life. My documents have been fucked up by so many different agencies that it's very difficult to figure out who I am)
Also, threat displays are not just for chimps. The cold war had real, tangible impacts on the world. Protects have real, tangible impacts on the world. Riots get things done too, but so do threats.
I love the irony here but this is 100% meant to bait counter protestors with guns to show up to the next one, especially in Wisconsin, and especially with the current administration that has no problem holding a double-standard (liberal protestors with guns are dangerous, conservative protestors with guns are patriots).
Leftists don't have the same privilege as white conservatives do walking around with an open carry. I hope anyone bringing their firearm to a protest understands the risks involved and is ready/willing to use it if things escalate.
Is it meant to bait counter protestors or is it in anticipation of armed counter protestors to show up to the first one already?
At the end of the day it doesnt matter that much. If there is someone starting to shoot at the crowd, being in a crowd is bad. Being completely defenseless in a crowd is worse.
It’s impossible to tell because of low resolution image, but the “AK-47” or Type 1/2/3 AK hasn't been made in 70 years, and are very rare nowadays. Due to popular media, what most people think of when they hear AK-47 is the AKM, a cheaper and mass produced variant of the 7.62 AK, which this could be, but its more likely this is not a Russian-made rifle (only ~10-15% of AKs are Russian-made).
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as the AK-47 is, in fact, Kalashnikov's Automatic Rifle, or as I've recently taken to calling it, Kalashnikov plus 7.62×39mm. The AK-47 is not a firearm unto itself, but rather another essential component of a fully functioning infantry weapon system made effective by its rugged design, intermediate cartridge, and gas-operated action, comprising a complete platform as defined by modern military doctrine.
Many firearm enthusiasts use a modified version of the Kalashnikov rifle every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the rifle originally designated as the AK-47 has evolved into the AKM and other derivatives, and many of its users are not aware that what they are handling is basically the original AK design, refined by Mikhail Kalashnikov’s engineering.
There really is an AK-47, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they rely on. The AK-47 is the foundation: the mechanism in the rifle that cycles rounds and provides reliability in extreme conditions. The receiver, barrel, and bolt carrier group are essential parts of a firearm, but useless by themselves; they can only function in the context of a complete rifle assembly. The AK-47 is normally used in combination with its 7.62×39mm ammunition and stamped steel receiver: the whole system is essentially Kalashnikov’s rifle with these elements added, or Kalashnikov/7.62. All the so-called AK variants are really just derivatives of Kalashnikov’s original masterpiece!
L take. I'm glad that person didn't have to use it, as that would mean violence was being brought upon innocent protesters that they therefore had to defend.
As ice cube taught us, any day you don't have to use the AK is a good day.
HAVING the gun, and therefore demonstrating second amendment rights is different than needing to use it.
FYI:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libs_of_TikTok
she’s one of the few people i would classify as literally evil
“Chaya Raichik” isn’t a good aryan name. It sounds foreign. I say this cause who she is as a person and who she associates with seems to support fascist and ethno-nationalist ideals.
I hope she gets everything she voted for.
I hope she gets everything the men who support the same politicians as her voted for.
I've seen her in an interview, and she came across as exceptionally unintelligent. Which tracks, I suppose.
Let's not encourage violence.
She likely has some exit plan to Israel.
The Nazi guy yesterday set up a few communities and one of them was a reposting community for post made by that group.
Have the communities been defederated?
I think they were removed at the source once the admin was contacted
Honestly it’s good for the MAGA crowd to see that normal people in America are armed too. They see themselves as wolves among sheep, while the masses are armed only with their useless empathy and critical thinking skills.
I miss the gold award here, you deserve one.
We should donate to trans support funds and post the proof of donation. Awards, but better.
Ive legit met a couple who were surprised I like blades and that I collect them. My three favorite ones are my 1942 Machete made for the US Army, my modern Ka-bar I bought at the Army surplus warehouse in Idaho Falls, and an M3 knife replica I bought from a local dealer.
Now imagine how theyd react if I had a gun, though if shit goes down ill just jack it from one of their still warm corpses.
Honestly if it makes it any better I dont know what the actual fuck possessed me to writ it that way. Guess thats what I get for writing comments while slowly losing it playing Wasteland 1. Seriously how did folks play this in the 80s.
Yeah, also its just as important to know how to use them as well. Which means for example I am well adept at using a Ka-bar and a shovel since I use them quite frequently around my property, this isnt even that much of a joke familiarity with something weight alone can help quite a bit. But slight joking aside my original comment was probably the most unflattering and worst way I could have stated that, but its kinda funny in a mid 2000s 4chan sorta way so ill leave it.
i collect blehds
While you were partying, I was studying the blade.
Its mostly just knives, the machete kinda throws it all off.
And a Defend Equality sticker on the stock! Super based. This person has an open invitation to all my backyard cookouts next summer.
Good, every progressive should be armed. Its like the literal reason we have the second amendment in the first place.
Got my CCW after trump won in 2016, didn't end up needing it
Got plates after this one, I'm not going to be a protest without it and a rifle.
It sounds like an escalation, but a show of force prevents a lot of violence, and it works especially well on the people we're protesting. Like, that's not a dig. Due to brain differences it's harder to win over the right by appealing to empathy or facts and logic.
Everyone that works on is already mostly on our side.
What works on conservatives is fear of immediate consequences. You think a trumpet would drive into protesters when a dozen would actually open fire and make them legit "fear for their lives"?
Hell, they overrun the Capitol because cops just had Glocks and riot gear...
These days a protest ain't safe unless people are posted up.
I always believed in the 2A, though up to now i never owned one, don’t hunt game, and owning a gun is an extra responsibility i didn’t feel the need to take on. Though this has changed recently as i am a proud yet reluctant owner of an SFAR. I also got my gas mask with NATO cartridges.
Shooting can absolutely be fun - not just a tool to fight oppression. "Can I shoot something smaller and further away?" is a question you can keep asking yourself!
I come from hillbillies, so technically I owned a rifle and a shotgun before I was ever born.
But I never went thru the hassle of getting a CCW and small pistol to carry.
But shits fucking crazy these days. Like I've lived in some rough areas, and had plenty of people show me their gun as intimidation since I was a punk teenager. But I was never seriously worried about getting shot, people had something to lose and I was never doing something that was worth it.
Nowadays people with a good job and family are just firing off over incredibly minor shit.
Everyone is just willing to throw it all away over nothing.
I really think we're gonna find out COVID caused similar issues to lead poisoning even among minor cases with no symptoms. People just have no chill, and everyone and their mother is strapped here now.
You really don't need it. Tear gas in an open environment is not bad, you move 10 feet away for a few minutes.
People will tell you tennis rackets is the move, but that could lead to serious charges if used to hit one back at cops.
What you need is buckets. They fire a can, you cap it. If you do have to retreat, someone will likely (completely on accident and without any malice) knock it over releasing the tear gas and slowing the cops.
I was in the military, and i had one. Seemed like a thing to get, and it couldn’t hurt. You are right about the buckets, i have seen those work well in protests. The police had to resort to shooting protestors in the face with the grenades instead, blew someones eye out of their skull.
That's a very modern interpretation of the second amendment popularized by conservatives. What it means 'literally' is hotly debated but only relatively recently did conservative pundents push this definition away from the arguably more 'literal' concept of organized state militias. If you think an arms race between liberal activists and right wing racist hillbillies (ie. Most of America) is going to end with the armed liberals winning, you need to check out the gun cabinets and gun sheds of the conservative homes in my town. Every time I see a ridiculous call to arms post like this on Lemmy I put some money aside to donate to one of my favorite gun control charities.
https://www.everytown.org
Just because people don't put them in a literal showcase and make it their entire personality doesn't mean they don't own as many they just don't want to get robbed as badly.
The rulings testing the militia part of the clause go back a long way establishing it is not a necessary part (and certainly it doesn't read that way).
Also Everytown's ideas are not based on evidence or even common sense. They can fuck right off.
I find it kinda amazing that they act shocked that Transpeople are arming and antifa is showing up armed when these motherfuckers have been brandishing firearms at their gatherings since literally forever.
“The second amendment is essential to protect against tyranny!”
…Right wing takes over US government and immediately starts attacking and marginalizing trans and other groups…
…trans and others start carrying guns…
“Not like that!”
To conservative white mean, tyranny means having to pay an income tax to support social programs, not being allowed to marry 13 year olds, or the government pushing renewable energy over coal.
To other groups, tyranny has a slightly more real meaning.
I have historically been pretty pro gun control because my life had seen the US generally becoming more socially progressive and supportive of marginalized groups (whether that was truly the case is another question), but the last 5-10 years have me seriously walking back on that stance.
This is such a "rights for me but not for thee" take. Dismiss anyone you disagree with while only valuing your own feelings.
Everyone has a right to defend themselves, their family and their community.
I haven't met many pro-2A peeps that are against the left or minorities owning firearms. Most seem to loudly support it, actually. Taking responsibility for your own safety is generally a good idea.
Agreed, that is definitely what they would say and believe. Not just any pro-2A people but your conservative trumper gun nuts too.
But the insidious thing about the conservative mind is that by necessity it leans into biases to mislead and fool itself. So they may not believe they are lying, yet somehow we’ll get gun control when LGBT and minorities are the ones waving around guns at protests, even though massacred children weren’t enough.
Use their good will until then and there won't be an easy way to implement gun control against the left. Fucking red flag laws might be weaponized, but nobody pays attention until fucky laws are pointed at them.
That is awesome. I have always felt pretty real sure that Guthrie's guitar has never actually killed fascists
According to the Behind the Bastards about Guthrie (they always do a Christmas episode about a non-bastard), it was a standard thing to put on machines used to build stuff for the war.
I don't think he was claiming to have literally beaten a fascist to death with a guitar, but you never know with that guy.
You never know, could be a decent blunt instrument
I remember when conservatives turned against guns because the Black Panthers armed themselves against racists
That's when American gun control began in earnest. Like many things, the authoritarian approach is rooted in racism.
The Black Panthers and the insuing riots after the murder of MLK got blacks the right to vote. And led to the first sensible gun laws in US history.
Nothing meaningfully improves until the rich fear for their lives.
This is a historical fact for our Republic
It's almost like guns are the answer to solving problems in relation to oppression.
Your facts are wrong.
Try looking up when "blacks" got the right to vote, and then maybe what the Civil Rights Movement was actually about, russki.
It sure as fuck wasn't "riots after MLK's assassination"
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_assassination_riots
The King assassination riots, also known as the Holy Week Uprising,[2] were a wave of civil disturbance which swept across the United States following the assassination of Martin Luther King Jr. on April 4, 1968.
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Dr. King had campaigned for a federal fair housing law throughout 1966, but had not achieved it.[36] Senator Walter Mondale advocated for the bill in Congress, but noted that over successive years, a fair housing bill was the most filibustered legislation in US history.[37] It was opposed by most Northern and Southern senators, as well as the National Association of Real Estate Boards. Mondale commented that:
A lot of [previous] civil rights [legislation] was about making the South behave and taking the teeth from George Wallace ... This came right to the neighborhoods across the country. This was civil rights getting personal.
The assassination and subsequent riots quickly revived the bill.[38][39][27][40] On April 5, Johnson wrote a letter to the United States House of Representatives urging passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1968, which included the Fair Housing Act.[31] The Rules Committee, "jolted by the repeated civil disturbances virtually outside its door," finally ended its hearings on April 8.[41] With newly urgent attention from White House legislative director Joseph Califano and Speaker of the House John McCormack, the bill—which was previously stalled that year—passed the House by a wide margin on April 10.[25]
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For some liberals and civil rights advocates, the riots were a turning point.
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The assassination and riots radicalized many, helping to fuel the Black Power movement.[42]
In after the rise of the Black Panthers and the increased unity caused by the death of MLK the movement rallied together and kept pushing which led to integration the right to vote.
As for calling me ruzzian, fuck you drag. I've seen you around here and you're always spitting some dumb bootlicker shit.
Grow a spine, grow up
Lol, yeah, that's what I'm known for, advocating peaceful protests and centrist positioning.
Your comment proved me right though, GJ on that?
Cya around, orc bot.
Armed minorities are harder to oppress. Stay strapped people. We're not even a month into this shit yet
"someone other than us bought weapons???"
GOOD. UNIRONICALLY.
this is what we need. Parity. Like guns or not, you need them at this point or you're just going to be under the boot without ever having the tools you needed to fight back.
I can tell they mean it negatively, but they make it sound like a great time to join the protest.
Being Madison, it could go either way. The Capitol is very lefty, but there's hillbilly farmland 20 minutes outside town.
That's basically every metropolitan city in the US.
45 minutes outside of DC you'll find plenty of MAGA mouthbreathers who directly benefit from their proximity, but who never see the irony of their opinions.
Marginalized groups should bring more weapons to protests, then maybe we could get some god damn gun regulations like back when the NRA was against the black panthers brandishing them in public.
Rational people pay attention to unarmed peaceful protestors...
But the people in power aren't rational, and the boots on the ground attack if protestors are unarmed...
Vests and rifles are going to be necessary optics at protests for the foreseeable future.
Quick edit:
Obligatory, "I think my draco might be gay"
Under no pretext shall arms be surrendered from the workers!
Reminds me of something a friend of mine said to me as a joke.
"Looks like Trans Rights is over, you know what that means?"
and I said
"Fascism is coming for us all and we're truly fucked?"
She then showed me a picture of a gun and said
"No, that it's time for Trans Wrongs"
It was so badass that I never forgot it.
I give this the usual "I don't condone violence, but if anyone fucks around they deserve to find out..."
"Show kindness, be patient, but take no shit."
Talk softly and carry a big stick
Now, as an average libsoftiktok follower, where do I call in the bomb threat? The gun owners house for owning the transgender gun? The gun manufacturer for making a transgender gun? The NRA for not making transgender guns illegal? The state capitol for allowing the transgender gun on their grounds? Or nowhere because there's evidence of the thing actually happening?
Every minority should be armed
Make it clear to every Trump supporter that their fascist rhetoric leads to us shooting them in self defense.
Tell them to snap out of it and confront reality when they clutch pearls about you fighting back.
"I want gun rights!" "no not like that"
People: please do not carry an AK. Just get an AR. ARs have interchangeable parts, ammunition is cheap, and aside from Bear Creek Arsenal, they're going to just work. AKs require significant hand fitting and there's no single standard, ammunition prices have risen sharply since the cheap milsurp ammo flow got cut off, and at the cheaper end they tend to be dangerous to the user. Yes, I know that AKs have a reputation got working in adverse conditions, but that reputation dates to the Vietnam war, when the AR was a new platform; modern ARs are far, far more reliable and accurate than an AK.
You can still get an AK for fun, but don't don't treat it like your serious gun.
I have a buddy who did gun repairs, he fucking hates AR-15s. If you want a gun that ticks all the boxes, get a 12 gauge shotgun. It's a cheap, widely available platform that has cheap and widely available ammo, it just fucking works, it's easy to care for, easy to use, pretty standard maintenance, and will kill what you need it to. They're lethal much further out than video games imply, because otherwise they'd completely wreck the balance of the game.
Edit: I asked him for his specific beef with ARs, this was his response.
They're a bitch to clean. There's lots of places that need to be cleaned that can't be reached easily, tons of little pockets and grooves you can't get into; requires a dental pick, star shaped cleaning patches, and a shit load of cotton swabs to get through.
If it's locked up, you can't knock on the charging handle or emergency kick the charging handle to clear it. You will not be able to field strip this rifle if it's jammed out of battery.
Aluminum gas blocks are apparently very popular, and they will corrode to failure at the gas tube port.
The extractor pin will often shatter in place, which causes intermittent failure while not looking wrong unless you know what you're looking for.
No they're not. They tear down easily without tools. I can't think of a part that can't be cleaned easily. Maybe the gas tube?
There's a button called a forward assist for that specific purpose.
Milspec blocks are not aluminum, he's complaining about after-market, non-standard mods.
I've seen this on cheap BCGs. It's annoying, but it's easily fixable and won't render the gun useless. You'll just have to manually clear it.
Thanks for the context. I was never interested in owning an AR myself, not to mention that it seems to me like they're way overpriced due to a lot of them being glam guns. He did it for a living for years, so I took him at his word.
No problem. As an owner of a fully-custom glam gun, I recommend building a shitty one first to learn what breaks and what doesn't.
That's where AR15s shine. You can build one pretty cheap and it's workable. Cheaper than any AK you can buy in the US.
If you want all the tacticool glam bling, you can do that, but it's excellent the without all that crap.
While you did answer the question, it is better to clear a jam by pulling back on the charging handle, possibly while also mortoring the buttstock. Hitting the forward assist is just as likely to make the jam worse. (This also counts for AKs, this isn't an AR only thing)
Some newer ARs don't come with forward assists anymore, sometimes to prevent people from making jams worse, but usually cause they're for sport and if your rifle malfunctions in a way that needs a forward assist, you can just take the L and get off the range to solve the issue.
Regardless, if you hit the forward assist, just make sure you're in a position that this might be the last round you can fire without doing some maintenance.
But you are correct, ARs are as popular as they are for a reason. They're reliable, easy to get parts for, and ammo (while expensive) is just about everywhere.
True. With my most recent rifle, I intentionally bought an upper receiver without one because I'm not usually in combat situations. Usually.
I would guess they're talking about a very complete cleaning? But that's kinda true of any gun. Basic cleaning of an AR15 is not that complicated.
Eeeehhhh, never press that button. It's a joke the Army played on itself.
Yeah, that's why my last rifle doesn't have a FA button.
Your buddy may have an unfounded bias against them, as AR-15's are in general extremely reliable, and don't require much maintainence or cleaning for the most part, especially since most people don't practice all that much.
A shotgun is a great choice for defense though, and often is a better choice than an AR.
I only clean mine because it's white. It would run forever shooting the filthy, cheap ammo I buy.
Disagree.
First, ammo starts at a minimum of 44cpr for 00 buck. Second, unless you get mag fed shotguns--which have their own problems--you're getting a maximum of about 7 rounds. Third, if you're talking about pump guns, it's pretty easy to short stroke one in a high-stress situation. Gas guns are a different matter, but they're pickier about ammo. Fourth--again, unless you have a mag fed shotgun--reloading is not nearly as quick and easy as it is with any firearm with a magazine.
You mortar them; that usually gets it. I've had to do that a few times.
Yeah, a detail strip and clean is a bastard. But you don't really need to do those very often. A field strip and clean is sufficient most of the time.
Yeah, with a 12 gauge shell of 00 buckshot, every pull of the trigger is almost like mag dumping a 9mm handgun in that direction. Very destructive very quickly at indoor distances, a little bit of wiggle room with the aiming m, and less risk of overpenetration than something like a rifle or a big caliber handgun.
A 12 gauge pump shotgun is actually the only firearm in my house(in the US), and I got it over 30 years ago. I kind of want to get a 9mm handgun, but it doesn’t feel like an immediate need given the shotgun.
A couple things I have to note, also as someone that used to do gun repairs and basic gunsmithing for a shop back in the day:
(Also learn to clean or at least do a half-ass clean if time is a problem after every range visit, we got so many firearms that looked like they hadn't been cleaned in years and were always a real bitch to take care of. My personal favorite was someone upset that we couldn't magically restore his "5 years in a garage in Florida humidity in a duffel bag never fired or cleaned" that was rusted and pitted to hell, and that it couldn't be brought back to factory new for 30 bucks 😂)
I haven't personally had this happen to me, but also range use will vary wildly from combat use so I can't speak on this too much.
They are because aluminum is very popular for manufacturing. If taken care of properly, this won't be an issue. See above that most people don't clean and maintain theirs properly lmao
Skill issue. Memes aside a good quality BCG is important for this reason. More people need to learn how the parts work on their build and change out parts as necessary if they are having issues with certain parts of it.
The range of a shotgun kinda sucks, though, right? Amazing for home defense though, especially if you don't have acres of land.
Not really, no. It's true that you aren't going to be sniping anyone with a shotgun, and it's also dependent on the shot you're using, but shotguns are used to hit ducks in flight, turkey, and deer (among others), which are all usually going to be a bit further away than your average hallway. Generally, birdshot is worthless for people outside of very close range; I once ran a call where someone got shot with birdshot from across the street and they might as well have been hit point blank with an airsoft gun. If that had been buckshot or a slug, they would have been completely fried. The tradeoff that you do with shot is that a finer shot will have a wider and denser cloud of projectiles, but each of those projectiles has less mass (and therefore momentum) for penetrating power. Buckshot is basically throwing a handful of (smaller) old school ball shot at whatever you're pointing at, and whatever you hit is going to have a bad time. I personally prefer the heavier 000 (triple-ought) buck to 00 (double-ought) buckshot, but either works great. A slug is going to have the best range and penetrating power; at close range, a slug will defeat any non-ceramic body armor, and people wearing ceramic are still going to be very unhappy. Of course, a slug also requires the best aim, because it's just one solid chunk of metal. in either case, I would say that shotguns with buckshot and slugs are entirely appropriate for personal defense in or out of the home, and urban combat.
I understand some people might look away from the AR-15 because it's the gun everyone has which takes away from the cool factor, or maybe you just dislike its connotation due to high use among right-wing folk, but this person speaks the truth.
AR-15s are common because they work. Customizations and spare parts are cheap, effective, and widely available. So are good magazines, which are typically a shockingly difficult part to design well and the place where many otherwise decent guns fail. .223 Remington has one of most varied supplies of ammunition on the market, beaten only by things like 12 gauge.
Don't buy weird shit until you own one of these (or at least a pump-action 12 gauge ffs).
Nobody cared about the ar-15 unyil it got banned snd then unbanned.
No lie! They've been available to civilians since the 60s. They weren't popular because they're not the best in any particular class. But they're easy and don't kick.
Sure, but also wheelguns were also considered more reliable and better than semi autos at the time.
AR ban expiration came around the same time as people were getting more used to gucci guns and mods.
There were a lot of other guns that got unbanned at the same time. The AR platform just happened to be ready for a resurgence right around the time that the expiration.
Also easier to work on than most guns.
Also just a note:
Is because
Of course lol. This "the right wingers like it so boo" mentality some (not you ykwim) have is bonkos, they also like water y'know?
That's a great point and it's unfortunate I didn't think to add it.
lmao I know what you mean. Conservatives grow and eat tomatoes too, we going to stop eating those now?
It's always best for civilians to adopt the guns of the local military, for various reasons.
ARs are common because the US military and NATO use them.
Same reason sig Sauer pistols are popular.
Popular is not the same as "superior".
Once the US moves off the AR platform, so will all the gun nuts.
I say this as a former armorer who got to see why ARs might not be the best choice.
AR-15s are popular because there's a single standard, and all the parts made should fit that standard, and more-or-less work. I can buy a barrel from any one of ten or more manufacturers, and I know that it's going to fit on my receiver (although I might need a different gas tube). You can't do that with a Ruger Mini-14, you definitely can't do it with any of the fuck-knows-how-many AK variants. ARs do have their own shortcomings it's true, but all rifles have shortcomings; the AR-15 platform does a pretty good job of balancing the competing needs and desires.
True, but primarily, because NATO wants them in a certain spec.
Again, once the US military switche from it, then so will everyone's opinion.
I don't think that opinions will necessarily change even if NATO decides to use a new rifle. Even if the US and NATO eventually adopt the Sig XM7 in 6.8x51mm, AR-15s will still be cheap, ammo plentiful, and they'll all still be on the same standard. (Plus, the 6.8x51mm cartridge is a real barrel burner; if you're a higher volume shooter, you'll get maybe 5000 rounds out of it before accuracy is shot--pardon the pun--to hell.) But, we'll see. So far the design has stuck around and been refined for over 50 years. Hell, people still use the 1911, and that's over 100 years old.
Oh, they will... Just like the AK. Then, we'll have people arguing over if everyone should switch to the XM7 platform, over the AR, because the AR is so useless, and incapable of anything reliable, yadda yadda yadda.
Again, the AR is only as popular as it is because of a marketing campaign by the US gun industry, that started backed in the early 80's, in order to sell machismo to returning Vietnam vets. I mean, they weren't all that popular in the 70's, even thought you could mail order a full auto rifle. People were declaring the M1 Garand to be far superior, because "So many parts, ease of maintenance, everyone knows how to use them, ergonomics don't need training" etc etc etc.
The exact thing you hear people say about the AR vs AK, or AR vs M1, etc etc
Plus ARs are cheaper.
That too.
I think that I originally paid about $550 for my S&W M&P 15 Sport 2 (although not many parts are original anymore); you can get a perfectly serviceable Palmetto State Armory AR-15 for $450. An AK is likely going to start at around $700.
As someone much more clever than I said, the real transgender AK is the AR that's chambered in7.62x39mm.
I completely agree with everything except the bit about Bear Creek, I can't talk shit when my 300blk upper from them runs well 😂
I mean, nobody wants to admit that they
ate 9 cans of ravioliown a BCA, but I do and it's actually been surprisingly nice.Okay memes aside, if buying BCA/PSA tier bottom bin parts know how to inspect them and make sure that they're good quality. With any firearm purchase actually give it a good look over, clean and prep it, know how to do little things like sanding down a feed ramp with a little bit of time and sandpaper (youtube is great for this). Don't just buy something planning to just shove it in the closet and not do any sort of work or prep or testing it at the range because if you do that, it's going to be a lot worse if you need it to work and it doesn't :)
The issue with BCA is QC. Sure, some of them, maybe most, are great. Then you get issues like a barrel that has no rifling.
I wouldn't suggest sanding a feed ramp, but polishing one can help; a little bit of green jewelers rouge and felt tip on a rotary tool should do it.
This is such a weird take. AKs also 'just work', most people will never have to hand-fit anything on an AK, and ammo prices for AK are at parity with ammo prices for AR. The cheapest end of anything can be dangerous to the user, so again that's another non-point. The majority of people aren't going to see a major functional difference between the two, it comes down to personal preference.
The gun you're actually describing is the AR-10
Wut? AR-10s have different competing standards, and tend to be strangely finicky. (I've got an AR-10 in 6.5CM; it's really picky about ammunition.) The AR-10 was never adopted by the military; I think that you're thinking of the M-14.
That's because it's going to come assembled (hopefully). But if you ever need to replace a part? Good luck, because you're going to need it. OTOH, when I replaced the barrel, hand guard, trigger, BCG, etc. on my rifle, it was all very much plug-n-play.
They most definitely are not. Ammo prices for 5.56x45mm NATO start as low as 23.7cpr, if you're willing to shoot reman; if you want new, then 30.5cpr. Ammunition for 7.62x39mm starts at 38.9cpr, and that's steel case bi-metal bullets. If you want brass cases, they start at 45cpr. That means that a single 30 round magazine costs about $9.15 for an AR, and $11.67-$13 for an AK.
If you mean the majority of people that buy a rifle and then never use it, sure. If you're talking about people that actually go out and shoot, you're definitely wrong.
An easy example is ballistics. I have a 50/200y zero. I have to aim low and 100y by about 2", and at 500y I'll have about a 45" holdover. My LPVO has hash marks for ranges, and it's mostly right. An AK variant usually has a 25y zero; at 500y, your holdover is at least 80", and as much as 120", depending on the ammunition. You aren't likely going to find too many LPVOs that have holdover marks calibrated for an AK, so you'll probably be eyeballing it with a red dot and a magnifier. You can make hits out to 500y with an AK, but it's going to be a lot harder.
yes, I was saying that an ar-10 fit the poster's description of an AK better than actual AK rifles, for that reason.
That's the best part! I won't! I owned one for years, I could dig post holes with the damn thing. I sincerely regret selling it.
Shipping makes those numbers very fudgy, I see one offer for 7.62 that beats many of the 5.56 offers just by giving free shipping. I'm willing to meet you at 'they're close' but in no way is 5.56 vastly less expensive. Not like 9mm less expensive!
Right, so like I said the vast majority of gun owners. Super Gun Nerds will always have a sincere appreciation for use cases that the vast majority of gun owners will not encounter at any point. Home defense happens under 25 yards. Soft points and a wooded area would give you a hunting experience that grandpa's 30-30 would feel quite comfortable in. They tend to be reliable and even decently accurate until the barrel heats up. They're not the same gun, but it's not a bad gun, and the benefits you're touting are completely overblown. Either one is better than none at all. It's easy to make up an edge case to prove your point, I could probably find an edge case in which AK was fully superior but that's not the point I'm trying to make, the point is for the majority of gun owners would not see a significant difference, and for the edge case users you'll find another edge case waiting to tear your argument down.
Make allies with real rednecks. They're pretty accepting, and fucking hate cops.
It's been done before. Redneck Revolt (antifascist) even had a temporary relationship with a full-on lolbert militia (American Pit Vipers) after APV saw all the disgusting neo-nazis at Charlottesville and realised that antifascists aren't crying wolf.
Any means you say?
Which one? The uncertainty is killing me O_O
I was really hoping for something more impressive than a sticker.
Something more like the Hello Kitty AR-15?
Yes! Guns deserve more colors than black, blued steel, and wood.
It's so pretty! 😻
Edit: Oh, I thought I was in noncredibledefense. I'm not normally this shitposty about guns, I promise.
carbinecute bean
Looks like just some trans tape wrapped around the mag.
This bitch loved it when armed people showed up at a library.
"It's only moral and lawful when my team shows up with guns to intimidate marginalized people."
Edit: They also think it's lawful
FYI there's an organization called the Socialist Rifle Association. They're kind of like a very inclusive version of the NRA I suppose. I found out about them through a short documentary on youtube called Arming the Left.
Ugh. I still hate guns. Guns kill people and the US obsession with them will never make sense to me.
But at this point it's probably good that it's not only the supporters if the lunatic fascist oligarchy that are armed. It hurts to admit, but I'd rather see a Nazi shot dead than a decent human being. Heck, if I were in the US I might learn how to shoot a gun at this point.
Marx said workers should be armed. That sentiment didn't come out of nowhere; shit like this is the reason why.
Marx died around the time that automatic firearms became a thing. For fighting tyranny bolt actions are solid. For mass murdering defenseless children, automatic weapons are more suited.
On the other hand if Marx had witnessed modern surveillance capitalism, he might had advocated for everyone to own automatic grenade launchers...
Automatic weapons were useful for coal miners to use against the Pinkertons.
Are you aware of what gear the tyrants' armies have? They're not going to be fiddling around with bolt action rifles, I can tell you that much.
Guns are a tool, and horrible people using fully auto weapons isn't a good reason for us to avoid them.
For Guerilla warfare you don't seek an "open battle", but rather surprise attacks.
Ofc. it goes from using simpler weapons to conquering more advanced weapons from the regime, or making Police/Army units defect with their equipment.
Finally a murderous regime will not crack down on Guerillas by fighting them directly, but mostly through terrorizing all Civilians in the hope of hitting the Guerillas too.
I hate nukes but the lesson of the 21st century has definitely been "get nukes and never give them up"
Yes, in fact I saw a Youtube video about that recently https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I hate spatulas but the fact remains that eggs have to be turned
I hate guns too.
I own them, and train with them because it's useful to have them ready when needed.
I hate it too, but not because I don't understand it, but because I do.
Americans are children, they are ruled by their action hero fantasies more than practicality. You can tell that they have such a mindset because they fear going without a weapon more than going without a medic. Only Barbarians and Children do that.
I say this as an American who has to deal with these kinds of people on a daily basis.
I don't get the take here.
Is this bad because....they had a gun?
Or is it bad because the gun had a transgender flag?
Aren't they all for gun rights?
They're for gun rights within the scope of their interpretation of the constitution. It's starts out "We the people" and when you don't consider someone a person, you don't consider them to have those same rights.
You make the fatal flaw of thinking there's reasoning behind their beliefs. They make up reasons to justify their beliefs. These reasons are always narrow-in-scope and context-dependant, but are often presented as generalized statements. They will change their argument to suit their aims.
rules for thee and not for me
Before I noticed the source, I just thought, “Badass!” Then I had the same question as you.
Check out a prior example
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulford_Act
"It's not fair if they have guns!"
That's why gun laws were put into place. Honkies got scared because black panthers were arming themselves against their racist shit.
PLEASE make [email protected] more popular
Trawling through to make sure that this was posted. Good job!
Arm up friends! But always be sure to know as much as you can as well.
Awesome! Protect yourselves you beautiful queer people.
Hey, an actual good person with a gun!
I am all for this wave of "Pink Panthers" arming themselves. Hopefully it will lead to some actual gun control laws, because it scares the cowardly fascists.
Yep maggots would say "sex offenders" should be banned from gun ownership
Let me reiterate. Maggots have attempted to label the entire LGBTQ community as sex offenders against children only because of their orientation. This would be their playbook for grabbing their guns without having to give up theirs
I'd like the laws to be sensible though. Please.
No guns for the gays!
You joke, but carry and purchase laws were literally created to stop black people from carrying or purchasing X locally "restricted" item, but over time some areas stopped using them that way and got more permissive about it, some areas started making it harder for everyone so at least it isn't racist but fuck everybody, and some areas still use what laws are in place for their intended purpose (see: North Carolina recently took away their pistol purchase permit requirement, but before they did 60% of denials were to african americans.)
It very well might be no guns for gays/trans, it would just be worded differently as "concealed carry permits" or "purchase permits" that "require review" by the local authorities including your social media as many advocate for or medical history (that one may be harder because HIPPA but would be called "mental health checks" officially, requiring you to sign a waiver when applying for the permit.) Or by using all that data that people who "have nothing to hide" are freely giving to companies that sell it to the NSA, "sorry
our database says you visited the local gay bar 'buttchuggers' a whole bunch,we don't think you're morally fit to own firearms and have denied your request." It could happen. Will it? Who knows, but they did it to a different group before and could very well do it again.On the plus side they can't fuck with their own base too hard, so we probably don't have to worry about some of that any time soon like the mental health checks. Anything already in place like CCW permits however can safely be abused, and blamed on the democrats if anyone in their base even cares (as they won't be further affected by abuse of the existing laws than they already are.)
There's are multiple leftist gun associations and they all have my full support (and the SRA has my membership).
Unlike the MAGA lunatics, the left actually has something to protect: those who are under attack and are unable to protect themselves. The women and the LGBTQ+ people in our country NEED to be able to protect themselves because the government is obviously not interested in their safety.
These organizations are not militias. We don't plan attacks, we don't conspire to subvert order. Our purpose is to train and protect those who need protection the most.
I have a pink, white, and purple braced AR pistol that fires 7.62x39.
It's got a 7" barrel, so it's loud and proud.
The precious, precious, precious second amendment will be very selective any time now.
FUCK YES!! Arm the fuck up. The rights not correct about much but a good guy with a gun can indeed stop a bad guy with a gun
Closeup. Credit to Ken Fager
I'm pretty anti-gun despite being on the left, but I think I've seen
this personher at protests before and if anyone's gonna have a gun I'd prefer it be her over anyone else.I'm in favor of regulating guns, and I feel like keeping one on my person / in my living space actually increases my risk of injury. However, I also think it's a good idea to know how to violently resist if necessary. (I have shot pistols, shotguns, and rifles before.) And, I don't think it's unreasonable for people of any political persuasion to have access to armaments in case they need to "fertilize the tree of liberty with the blood of tyrants".
I've read that having a gun in your house does increase your risk of being shot. That being said, I understand that having guns helped groups like the Panthers keep their communities safer. I don't think they'll help us most of the time in resisting a dictatorship, though. If we beat the fascists, I think more of it will come from sabotage, mass strikes, etc, as opposed to shooting.
It's all about timing.
Having guns makes you less safe when you don't need them
Most gun owners believe that those statistics don't apply to them. I believe they do apply to me (since I do live with a gun owner).
I agree that resistance is unlikely to primarily take the form of infantry combat, but it wouldn't surprise me if some communities do have to repel an armed force, which will be much more difficult without at least some community members having access to and proficiency with small arms.
I believe once you tease the causes behind the stats apart.... you'll find most leftists work to ameliorate those issues.
Like firing pin buddies was something I first learned about in the SRA. Not my hunting club.
And the no booze or intoxicants in use while firearms are out of cases.
Etc etc
Yeah, that's fair. I usually don't talk gun politics anyway because of all the insurmountable issues the US faces, that's probably the most insurmountable.
Based.
I'd be armed if my wife wasn't so leery about firearms. She and my father-in-law are part of a ethnic minority that is specifically targeted by white supremacists and my state has active Nazi and Third Position groups. Given the way shit's going, I want to be prepared for anything.
The only things that ever slowed the Nazis down was Russian winters and getting shot, and we're all out of Russian winters.
you should have a discussion about it, see if her views have changed since the election.
Shits scary outside right now, wishing you the best of health ❤️
I fully support anyone and everyone being armed. It’s a shame we can’t have them here in the Netherlands, but I’m very pro-self defense and self reliance. The government will only protect you so far, if that. And an armed group is much less likely to get fucked with.
I support gays with AK’s, queers with auto sears, transfems with FN’s and everyone else who feels the need to protect themselves and each other.
So it’s only okay for republicans to taunt their guns.
Look at the smile on that person's face. The world needs more of that person.
As an American....fuck yea!
I mean it literally says whitepeopletwitter under its logo, and name, atop the side bar, so yeah, probably should expect that
Oh I expect most to go elsewhere, but the portion that end up on lemmy, after doing a search for reddit alternatives, will end up here. The greater portion probably won't end up at a single place, as there aren't any reddit alternatives in the way that reddit was an alternative to digg.
Its time to make good on those death threats Chaya keeps getting
Any recommendations for a decent plate carrier?
Honestly, a cheap Condor carrier will be fine for most people, they hold up well.
I'd recommend getting plates from Redstar defense, they're extremely good for the money, and they're one of the only leftist makers around (they also sell at-cost first aid kits with high quality NAR gear, and carriers).
If this thing goes on for four years as it has gone for the last 2 weeks, there's definitely going to be some mass shootings committed by trans people in USA.
I fully intend (and I'm aware of the risks of saying this online, I don't care), to burn down government buildings if they actually declare war on Canada. Until then, I'll keep to my peaceful protesting and spreading happiness and dissent at my workplace until there's enough wiggle room for a union to show up
Hey bud.
Don't say incriminating things on social media just because you're behind a username.
The glowies are watching, and the Fediverse doesn't really protect your anonymity in general while also being run by individuals who can be arrested and their servers seized without having a corporate oligarchy getting upset about it.
And, just as a general rule:
Do, or do not.
Threat displays are for chimps.
As stated, I'm well aware of the risks involved with this kind of statement. Again, as stated, I'm not concerned.
While this statement is a threat to my OpSec, my government is currently incapable of tying my name or identity to a phone number. By the time they start caring about my comment right here, I'll have much bigger issues. (I know that claim sounds ridiculous but it's actually been a regular hurdle in my life. My documents have been fucked up by so many different agencies that it's very difficult to figure out who I am)
Also, threat displays are not just for chimps. The cold war had real, tangible impacts on the world. Protects have real, tangible impacts on the world. Riots get things done too, but so do threats.
I love the irony here but this is 100% meant to bait counter protestors with guns to show up to the next one, especially in Wisconsin, and especially with the current administration that has no problem holding a double-standard (liberal protestors with guns are dangerous, conservative protestors with guns are patriots).
Leftists don't have the same privilege as white conservatives do walking around with an open carry. I hope anyone bringing their firearm to a protest understands the risks involved and is ready/willing to use it if things escalate.
Is it meant to bait counter protestors or is it in anticipation of armed counter protestors to show up to the first one already?
At the end of the day it doesnt matter that much. If there is someone starting to shoot at the crowd, being in a crowd is bad. Being completely defenseless in a crowd is worse.
Nono, i mean LoT posting this picture, not the protestor carrying the gun
Everything that account does is stochastic terrorism
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Is it the AK47 they're uncomfortable with or the transgender badge?
Both, when combined.
They prefer being the only ones armed, so they can oppress marginalized folk.
Pretty sure it's the badge
Sweet. Sounds based. Let's do more of this.
That’s not an AK-47.
What is it?
It’s impossible to tell because of low resolution image, but the “AK-47” or Type 1/2/3 AK hasn't been made in 70 years, and are very rare nowadays. Due to popular media, what most people think of when they hear AK-47 is the AKM, a cheaper and mass produced variant of the 7.62 AK, which this could be, but its more likely this is not a Russian-made rifle (only ~10-15% of AKs are Russian-made).
This sounds like the Linux vs GNU/Linux meme.
::: spoiler Courtesy of DeepSeek R1:14B
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as the AK-47 is, in fact, Kalashnikov's Automatic Rifle, or as I've recently taken to calling it, Kalashnikov plus 7.62×39mm. The AK-47 is not a firearm unto itself, but rather another essential component of a fully functioning infantry weapon system made effective by its rugged design, intermediate cartridge, and gas-operated action, comprising a complete platform as defined by modern military doctrine.
Many firearm enthusiasts use a modified version of the Kalashnikov rifle every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the rifle originally designated as the AK-47 has evolved into the AKM and other derivatives, and many of its users are not aware that what they are handling is basically the original AK design, refined by Mikhail Kalashnikov’s engineering.
There really is an AK-47, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they rely on. The AK-47 is the foundation: the mechanism in the rifle that cycles rounds and provides reliability in extreme conditions. The receiver, barrel, and bolt carrier group are essential parts of a firearm, but useless by themselves; they can only function in the context of a complete rifle assembly. The AK-47 is normally used in combination with its 7.62×39mm ammunition and stamped steel receiver: the whole system is essentially Kalashnikov’s rifle with these elements added, or Kalashnikov/7.62. All the so-called AK variants are really just derivatives of Kalashnikov’s original masterpiece!
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I just got "Aykshually'd" by an AI.
That’s actually so good
AK-47's also look like black colored pencils.
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Guns are not exclusive to Nazis 😉
##RUN FOR YOUR LIFE
#IT IS THE MYTHICAL ANTIFAAAAA
Incredibly based
Looks like a member of the military to me. Are libs of tiktok suddenly afraid of guns?
incredibly based. i'll take 30.
Nice
Here I was, just minding my own business enjoying my Second Amendment rights, and you people have to freak out on me!
I'm probably gonna make my nag22 trans themed, tho I have to buy a new printer and wait for the parts to arrive
This machine…
Hell yeah.
Noooo do not make my AK-47 gay >:((
L take. I'm glad that person didn't have to use it, as that would mean violence was being brought upon innocent protesters that they therefore had to defend.
As ice cube taught us, any day you don't have to use the AK is a good day.
HAVING the gun, and therefore demonstrating second amendment rights is different than needing to use it.
Arm up, y’all. In the possible worst-case scenario, don’t let one side be the only ones with guns. It’s our right too.
Im completely against guns but still i have to admit that the trans ak47 is cool