Imagine when they find out you run your own media server. Bad boys out there downloading videos without licenses about to pop off on dating sites because no one can afford the "Netflix" part of netflix and chill
That’s because the deal has already been sealed. They typically wanna keep you off the market, not increase your “resale” value. Unless you’re into that kinda thing. Like, cucking or sharing kinda kinks, not human trafficking. Human trafficking isn’t sexy. Unless you’re into that kind of thing. Like, as a fantasy, not as a real thing. Real human trafficking isn’t sexy. Unless you’re into that kinda thing. Like, as in humans stuck in traffic or transforming into cars and being stuck in traffic, not as being sold as a commodity. Unless you’re into that kind of thing.
I have a friend who’s very attracted to her husband’s woodworking. Mind you he’s a world class artisan for equipment for a shared hobby of theirs, but still, she’s very supportive of his lathe purchases.
It could also just be women thinking, "I'd like to visit _____ when I'm able, I want my partner to go with me." Working in a passport office, I've met a shocking number of men who have never left the US (or sometimes even the state) by choice. Then their wife or girlfriend wants to go to Mexico or something, and they come in talking about how they're only doing it for her and they'd never travel if it was up to them.
Anyway, I'd consider traveling one of my hobbies even though I can't afford to do it often - plenty of time is spent planning and looking at things to do, so it goes beyond just the few days of the trip.
I've met people who are extremely happy living in their small town life doing small town things, then get angry or confused why anybody would want to go someplace "exotic".
Maybe "travelling as a hobby" as a women's preference with regards to men is at about it being a man's openness and ability to deal with totally different environments, disposable income, time availability and possibly foreign language skills.
I'm one of those people. I've never flown, rarely leave my state. My wife wants to travel, but we haven't yet. I, personally, have no interest in it. Just like sports and most popular movie franchises. I just have no feelings about it at all. It seems like a huge hassle.
Yea same. New places, new people, and trying to figure out where I'm going stress me the fuck out. A vacation is just a whole week of that. No thanks. I want to use my time off to relax. If someone else wants to plan the whole thing and I just follow them around it's fine but I don't want to deal with that shit myself. It's not enjoyable to me at all.
I don't think there's necessarily anything wrong with that, it's just not going to be compatible with everyone. I would never date anyone who didn't prioritize travel at least a little, but that's definitely not universal.
It's unclear what countries this poll includes, having minimum paid leave is the law in most of the world. There's also quite a few careers that involve forced time off.
If you live at home or are technically homeless it doesn't really matter. If you can save up a bit and have a charismatic personality you can go far, especially if you're willing to pick up shitty temporary jobs in places where you go. I had a friend who would do this all the time and periodically return home to work at a reliable job while living with a friend, save up more, then fly off to somewhere for a few months.
"Fun" fact, this is actually why my mom has no interest in camping as an adult. Her family was homeless a lot when she was a kid and her mom disguised it as a fun extended camping trip. The kids bought it for the most part, because the family really did camp for fun, and they were used to fishing for dinner and things, but she said as she got older, she realized things like the month long trip in November were because they lost their housing.
For the vast majority of you, long travel is required to get to somewhere you can backpack. And the the gear and foodstuffs is expensive also. And judging by the damages to the environment that some inconsiderate people leave these days, I'm not sure that you should be allowed to. (I'm getting sick and tired of picking up garbage and hauling it out of the forest I live in).
"Backpacking" can also mean couch surfing and staying in hostels or on park benches. In the early 2000's, it was a really popular way to travel across Europe (at least among rich white college kids)
I wonder if AirBnB destroyed that industry. I saw a "hostel" in my city but it was charging $70 a night. When I was growing up, hostels were like $20-30 a night, cheaper than a motel 6.
Or be in a religious cult like Mormons. Of course they will send you to a foreign country and confiscate your passport until your 1.5-2 years are over.
I remember listening to some pop song and realizing that it was basically "You love me 'cause I'm rich". Do you like trashing hotel rooms, going places you have never been? I don't remember what song it was or the exact lyrics, but I just hated the guy then and there.
If they flaunt it with their fancy cars and designer clothes, I think they're gross.
If they look like a hobo but are highly educated about finances... Aaaaay bay bee how you doin? Wink at me, you economist with a 401K who ties her hair up because she hasn't showered in days because she was doing data science. Spit in my mouth, you engineer with a diverse stock portfolio who wears the same hoodie you wore in college because clothes shopping is hard and you want to focus on optimizing your CI pipelines. Choke me, you tenured professor with a mature retirement fund who dedicated their life building physics engines to teach grad students.
There was this study where they asked a theater full of women to rate the attractiveness of men, based on a photo and a profession. Then they changed all the professions (but kept the same photos) and did it again.
The same picture with a higher-paying job was rated significantly higher.
Playing an instrument: a good instrument isn't cheap, and music lessons can be pretty expensive.
Woodworking requires a lot of fairly expensive tools, and a space to do it. You can't really have woodworking as a hobby if you live in a small studio apartment. You basically need a house, either one with a basement, a shed or a garage.
Gardening: requires a garden, something you're unlikely to have unless you have your own house.
Photography: I don't know anybody who is into photography who hasn't sunk a lot of money into the hobby. There's the cameras, the lenses, and even the software these days.
Astronomy: see above.
Hiking: not expensive on its own, but in North America it means being able to drive to a wilderness spot outside the city, so you pretty much require your own car.
Archery and blacksmithing: again, requires a specialized space
Now, I know that there are cheap options for a lot of these. A musician could be someone drumming on an upside-down pail. Someone who only has access to a hotplate could still experiment with food. Woodworking could be just whittling sticks found in the park. Gardening could just be tending to a small houseplant. But, are these the version of the hobbies the women are picturing when they're imagining a potential mate doing the activity? Probably not.
Meanwhile, a lot of the stuff at the bottom of the list are very cheap hobbies. Like being influenced by the "Manosphere" just requires access to social media, same with porn and "arguing online".
Honestly, it looks to me like if you sorted the list by "dollars per hour someone invested in that hobby is likely to spend" you'd get many of the same things at the top and many of the same ones at the bottom. Some of the few exceptions are writing and reading, which can be pretty cheap hobbies, but are still apparently very attractive.
For astronomy (really astrophotography, which is considered even more expensive) I guess it depends on what you consider expensive. For $500 and with 3 free software products I'm able to produce stuff like this:
A rather large telescope (8" dobsonian reflector) I have as well was "only" $500. So it can be a hobby that you don't need to spend all that much on, but again that depends on what we consider expensive. $500 is definitely not cheap but I'm just a schmuck in a factory and I could save for that.
I'm sure you know other people spending thousands on their gear. Anyhow, many of these hobbies can be done relatively cheaply, but I imagine the woman picturing the man doing it as someone who wasn't going the ultra-cheap route.
Nice picture btw. How far do you have to travel to get somewhere where there's a low enough level of light pollution that you can take a picture like that?
Thanks! I'm lucky enough to live in a bortle 4 zone so that was taken right outside my house, it's just processed a bit to pull out the colors and darken the background.
Cool stuff, I live in a city. Not a huge city, but big enough that I only see the major stars at night. It would probably take me at least 45 minutes of driving to get somewhere dark enough to take a picture like yours (assuming I had all the equipment and skill to take that kind of picture at all).
If you did it in the olde fashioneded way with a manual hammer, manually stoking the forge with a bellows, etc., then sure. But AFAIK modern blacksmithing is pretty similar to modern carpentry or welding or any other hobby where the machines do most of the work. It's still a somewhat active hobby, compared to doing something with a computer. But, I don't think a modern blacksmith is going to get huge arms from doing it.
I only know one guy who is into blacksmithing and - being a nerd myself, I say this with kindness - but this dude is a super nerd. He's also one of the scrawniest dudes I know. I've heard him tell women that he's into blacksmithing before and it definitely does not have the desired effect that this chart would imply.
You always have to consider Rule #1 when taking these things into account.
I've met a TON of blacksmiths and they usually just look like normal guys but slightly more buff, often overweight. The machinery does most of the work.
Yea, I would wonder why hobby engineering isn't on the list, or something like 'maker' I think 3d printing as a stand alone is more of a support, it would be like, instead of woodworking, the hobby is 'sawing' it's part of it, but engineering is what the hobby is actually.
Because a blacksmith, woodworker or a metalworker are all makers. Ultimately what matters is it is a highly skilled thing that triggers imagination and creates something out of "nothing". Differentiating between those as hobbies is a matter of how often the hobby is chosen / represented online. There are more woodworkers than metalworkers. Less blacksmiths, so you think of "blacksmith" less when asked what's "hot".
I can not fathom how blacksmithing is LOWER on the list than reading. "The dude with the hammer looks nice, but that other one over there is sitting on a sofa for HOURS on end"
Reading demonstrates culturing, education, pursuit of knowledge, and willingness for good conversation. It’s also a hobby that can be practiced together (my wife and I have even devised a technique for how to best read books together)
Blacksmithing is one of the few hobbies that a guy probably can’t teach his girlfriend because women usually use a different technique to make up for strength differences. It’s hot for sure, but it’s hot in a “I’m going to watch you but it’s expensive in time and money, and I may wind up stuck selling at ren faires forever” way as opposed to a “even when we’re old we’ll still be discussing literature” way
I'm a woman, I can definitely learn to smith, and have done it a few times (I do reenactment, there's basically guaranteed to be a few blacksmithsin every friend group). I definitely couldn't do it for a living, but as an occasional hobby, sure.
And I haven't met a guy into smithing who didn't also like a fit partner, so hey.
Oh I’m not disagreeing that we can learn. I’d just heard we tend to use a different technique than men, but I’ve never tried and none of my friends that are into sca are smiths so I was never taught otherwise.
Smithing is a hobby I’d love to take up if I had a lot of time, money, and trust from my wife that I won’t hurt myself
I so metal working as a hobby. You’ll hurt yourself, but it’s usually burns and using the the hammers as a thumb detector. Fingernails grow back though usually. It’s the angle grinders you gotta respect.
Tell her that scars are cool and go for it!
Just wear eye and ear protection, and get a good leather apron and welding gloves.
Lol, no. First person reads one chapter than we take turns reading two and passing the book. It keeps us excited and lets us talk about it as we go without major spoilers
Blacksmithing is one of the few hobbies that a guy probably can’t teach his girlfriend because women usually use a different technique to make up for strength differences.
Me, a woman who tried blacksmithing before: Don't use spring steel or other metals that are hard to manipulate/hammer into shape when starting off. Don't start with a sword, start with bending and twisting a nail into... whatever. If they like the hobby they'll stick to it and the muscle will build over time. And if it doesn't: power tools.
Good to know, I’m a woman who’d apparently been misinformed but it is one of those things I’ve always wanted to try, but it’s not an ADHD “pick up every hobby” friendly one
but it’s not an ADHD “pick up every hobby” friendly one
That's true. I was in luck and there was a blacksmith in town who opens his workshop to kids on occasion or travels to job conventions and brought his tools with him. Maybe there are comparable activities/ offers near you, which I can highly recommend. Not only will you not have to worry about tools and materials, most importantly there will be a "teacher" around.
If you find something and decide to check it out, have fun! :)
Judging by what I see on dating sites, fishing is near the bottom of the list. So many women's profiles say something like "I don't want to see a picture of you holding a fish"
Voyager recently added user tags (allows you to label other users) but the app also doesn't appear to use the display name option available in Lemmy (or at least no one has it enabled from the screenshots I've seen posted), so it just shows the username you use to log in, which doesn't have special characters.
My display name is my username, but spelled using emojis in case you don't see it that way, either.
Oh, I see. Voyager doesn't show that because display names are confusing for mentions, can be used to impersonate, and distracting. It might be an option to enable in the future, off by default.
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To clarify how I really feel, here's my hot take: display_name is a really awful feature and should be removed from Lemmy.
Why?
They are dangerous by default because the very concept implies that clients should render display_nameinstead of the username, if it exists. Which is unwise: Apps have to choose between replacing (bad for impersonation/UX/distraction reasons) and showing both (which just looks duplicative most of the time).
What makes this feature even more frustrating is that people are now using display names for their username + flairs of actually important things, like gender identities. (for example, display_name="Alex (he/his)")
It's a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation for Lemmy clients. Some people are using display_name for important info like gender identities, and yet display_name is so incredibly easy to impersonate people and otherwise abuse.
Solution?
What is the solution? I think Lemmy should ditch display_name and replace with flair (or something like this). The general idea is that flair is NOT a replacement for your username, but rather it will be displayed alongside it.
Maybe even make flair per-community like Reddit. I think that was a much better design than what Lemmy currently has.
I read, write, cook, paint, swim, travel, and hike, and last gardening. I should be rolling in it. But my wife finds me sexy so I got that going for me.
I think this is from a survey, so keep in mind that its people reading and answering questions. Some number of people always interpret it a different way or misread.
A lot of cryptobros claim to have gotten rich, or seem likely to be flashing their money around. If someone is throwing money around, why not be somewhere you can catch some
These lists make the most sense if you just imagine the stereotype the hobby exudes. Woodworkers are rugged, work with their hands, have a bushy beard and smell like fresh cut wood all the time, meanwhile someone who's hobby is watching porn is overweight, hasn't showered in a week and will have unrealistic expectations of you while struggling to perform in bed himself. But someone who makes porn is buff, squeaky clean and knows his way around a women's body.
I think it's collecting vs reading. I'm a lady and read comics, well graphic novels, I don't buy the individual issues. Half my bookshelf is graphic novels trade paperbacks. But I do not collect, trade, sell, I don't think of them like that, they are for reading and enjoying.
Collecting I can see as an unattractive trait because it's too close to hoarding.
Manosphere is (to my understanding) Andrew Tate, Joe Rogan, etc. Basically content that promotes men acting like Neanderthals. Why any percentage of women found that attractive is beyond my comprehension.
Andrew Tate, Joe Rogan, Jordan Peterson. Basically online misogyny. People who blame women for everything, or think that there's such a thing as an "alpha" man, or who use the word "cuck". Basically incels, supposed "men's rights activists", date rapists and date rapists in training, etc.
Ok, but most of those shouldn't even be considered hobbies. Like poker can be a hobby but if your hobby is just "gambling" then you probably have an issue. I guess your hobby could be porn if you're in the kink scene and into making porn or something, but while watching porn is ok, if you consider watching porn a hobby then you may have an issue.
To be fair, I enjoy both these things but I don't know that I would classify them as hobbies, more as something I do to wind down. I can see video games going into hobby or even profession territory but THC is just a medicine for me. A hobby is something that needs to challenge me, in which I learn things and get better at it.
Tl;dr: any interest is interesting and attractive. In particular if it can be done without annoying your partner and shows your ability to think independently. If it produces something useful that's cool, too.
When you worry about the brand of the olive oil you use and the cost, (over $100 per knife), of your kitchen knives. And your stove is a $4000 induction model with 2 ovens.
Source: My one Son-in-law. But the son-of-a-bitch CAN really cook!
I have two Kitchenaid mixers, and all my specialty tools. Cooking and baking can definitely be a hobby. We have the meals to survive. Then we have the shit I make that tskes a list of ingredients a mile long and all day to accomplish. But goddamm they are some great food.
Am I a cooking enthusiast because I spend time hunting/fishing/foraging wild ingredients? Many of my neighbors do some foraging and hunt and fish also. (I live on a lake in the middle of a very large forest). Or does the fact I made 10lbs of home smoked Canadian bacon in my own smoker this fall make me a cooking enthusiast? Maybe the breads I sometimes bake? Or the hand harvested and then parched over a wood fire wild rice I traded some of my bacon for from my one neighbor?
Am I a cooking hobbyist? Or am I just cooking to survive? Where is the line drawn?
Would I survive? Perhaps not so well. Everything I forage or hunt and fish for reduces the amount of dollars spent on buying groceries. And a good portion of what we eat you can't buy in a store.
The second part of that comment sounds like you are a culinary enthusiast not a survivalist. Like, I grow stuff in the garden to get better, fresher foods and varieties I don't see in the store, and also for the local bees Saving money is secondary(tertiary?), though I think at this point the lines may have crossed and we are saving some money. I do it because I like good food.
If I lived where there was more to forage, you can bet your ass I would be foraging too. Wild food is awesome.
It's probable, I do like to cook and do it well. Though I don't own a single kitchen knife that costs over $10US. But, that foraging really makes a large difference in the grocery bill also. Particularly when the grocery store is a mere 100 mile round trip away.
I tend to think I'm somewhere in the middle of surviving and hobbyist. I grew up poor and I'm often just doing the same things I have always done since childhood because we needed to. And I continue to do a lot of it simply because of habit and I do enjoy eating everything I forage.
One got the second on sale, and when baking cakes easier and faster with 2. But also last time I baked a cake and was making cookies. Having 2 mixers was awesome for that.
There are a surprising amount of old kids that can't even boil water for pasta. No one looking to date wants to date an old kid they need to take care of. (Some people do, but burnout is real)
Yeah I burn the kids out of pizza and calzone for awhile when I got into pizza making. I had to try many different ways to make it so we ate it everyday for a week.
Cooking qs a Hobby is not throwing together a Quick meal, but actually making an effort to cook. I.e. trying new things, cooking homemade pizza or even a roast.
"throwing together a quick meal" should have it's own word.
"cooking" to me implies you're working on something worth the time it takes, something you want to put effort into.
But when I just got home, nothing is easy to make and I have to throw something quick together, it doesn't feel like really cooking to me. Like im half assing it, it should have a half-assed name.
My kids love these meals and I'm not sure why. I usually say "watch me pull a rabbit out of this hat!" and throw something together. Unless it's a stir fry, they don't like that. But a leftover baked potato becoming home fries with eggs and the half a tomato and half an onion from the fridge? The leftover cabbage going into the last handful of lentils for a stew? Casserole of leftover pasta, odds and ends with cheese, topped with bread crumbs? They are so happy with these oddball meals for some reason, and I think if you can make something with whatever you have, that IS a valuable cooking skill.
Exactly, I am always looking for new and exciting things to try. Also subscribe to shit ton of cooking channels on YouTube, and blogs. Also subscribe to a magazine subscription which I was exited that I could still do that. Also have a ton of cook books and always looking for more.
When you are making everything from scratch, cooking becomes a hobby. You can make tacos and buy a salsa from the store and make some good tacos, but when you are making the salsa and thinking that you should add just a bit more of something, you are in hobby territory.
Smoking meats is a hobby. To get dinner ready, you start at 3am and tend the firebox all day. You try different rubs, woods, and techniques to make the product of your craft the best it can be.
Making pizza from scratch is a hobby. You make may make dozens of pizzas to just get the sauce, dough, or crust right.
Following a recipe to make something is not a hobby unless it is just a starting point in something you wish to refine and make your own.
Smoking meats is a hobby. To get dinner ready, you start at 3am and tend the firebox all day. You try different rubs, woods, and techniques to make the product of your craft the best it can be.
3am?!? What tiny little brisket are you doing at 225 to start that late? You've got to leave time for it to rest.
Ok, in all seriousness this is one of my main hobbies. By that I mean I do it often and I've stuck with it for years while other hobbies have come and gone. I've got a couple of offset smokers, a drum smoker that I built, and a pellet smoker when I don't have the time to tend the firebox but still want to smoke something.
I said all that to say this: there are plenty of people who couldn't give two shits about smoking meats who absolutely come ask me questions about it. Not because I'm the best, and not because they want it to be their hobby. But because I'm excited to talk about it. I also tend to bring full plates with me for my friends (and usually a couple of extras) so they get the benefit of having food.
I've also had women ask if they can come hang out next time I crank up the smoker. It's an easy way in for someone who wouldn't normally be confident enough to approach you.
I’m not into guys but as a woman I’m surprised blacksmithing isn’t higher. How am I supposed to be your knight in shining armor if you can’t make me some shining armor?
Unironically, most of the women I've spoken too have found it attractive when I bring up 3dPrinting. It's an active and interesting hobby, and tangible & crafty enough not to be too "nerdy" or whatever. Perfect middle ground, women love it.
They probably just didn't think of it or it wasn't on the poll.
So, lots of Linux fans should be fairly attractive. Like we read (the docs), know a few languages (at least bash), occasionally write scripts, travel (between distros), and archers became a huge meme 🙃
But you annoy users with unreliability and difficulty to repair and time to implement. UX is important. You can't have home improvement work sites lingering.
Haven't tested macos myself (and ain't going to due to progressing hardware enshitification), but windows isn't any better, in my experience.
The only kinda benefit is that you often don't need to install it and are likely accustomed to using it. But then come problems. First, you need to remove a metric ton of crap by both vendor and Microsoft, so much so it's often easier to install a clean msdn image (which negates the benefit of windows being preinstalled). And if you happen to remove more unnecessary crap than expected by Microsoft, you also get weird and hard yo track issues.
Then reliability... The last time I needed it, w10 bsoded (oh, yeah, the famous undifficult to repair "smth died, and we want tell you what exactly"; so much better than logs in Linux, am I right?) 5 mins after install from an original msdn image, and after reinstalling touchpad and trackpoint didn't work properly, for example. So, that's actually worse than any Linux distro I've tried so far. But idk, mb I'm just unlucky. Also, crowdstrike 🙃
Then the usual way to install software on windows... Which sucks hard: heck, even Slackware is better in that regard, and it kinda says a lot.
Soo, basically leaves us with "windows good 'cuz I know windows".
The musical instrument thing is transitory and depends entirely on the instrument.
Pre-relationship; in a popular band playing a more traditional instrument like guitar with a bunch of also attractive people (or at least part of a cool local scene) = hot
In a relationship and/or solo bedroom producing any kind of electronic music and/or buying lots of synthesizers, drum machines or grooveboxes = not hot
Also note how low "clubbing" is on the least attractive list, so no, DJs and electronic musicians who perform live don't get a pass
I beg to argue that being able to 3d model the figures and printing your own original creations is far more attractive than downloading a file aomeone else made and printing that.
No one should undertake hobbies because they are attractive to someone else. Unless you want to join groups where you can meet people you’re attracted to, then the activity is just an excuse to mingle. But you are more likely to find a hobby rewarding if you are genuinely interested in it, no matter what others think.
I think this is cool. Many of these are accessible and cheap. Most of these are "do you get out of the house and spend time on something" which is obvious. Looks like most hobbies are attractive, like even anime and cosplay have 1 out of 4 women who is into that and finds it attractive.
I also love the huge correlation between the top 15 and what men think is the top 15, the main difference is that men didn't think hobbies were attractive enough.
I'd love to see the reversed list for what men think are attractive hobbies for a woman!
I've read manual for my new 3D printer but it was in a foreign language so I had to cook up a way to understand it, luckily I travel a lot so learning languages is not that difficult for me. I hope that this writing paints good enough of a picture on how it went. I forged up some way to accelerate my learning process so that I could get trough it swift like an arrow. There certainly were some steep inclines which I had to overcome but in the end it all went swimmingly. The only issue was that I could not muster any courage to approach my crush. I just stood there like a stump and stared at her eyes that glistened like stars. In the end it turned out she was a hoe so I dodged a bullet.
I think my wife was mildly amused by it at first (I was playing with X10 automation long before she came into the picture), but quickly started to like it because it meant that we always came home to the lights on, stuff like that.
And there's one button to shut off the outside lights and "evening" lights in the house when we're going to bed.
Forklift certs ain't nothing compared to amateur radio. When you get that personalized license plate too... They're going to be climbing over their boyfriends just to hear you ask for an RST from the guy you bounced to with 10m.
Let's see: I love reading, I am learning French, I paint, I write, I enjoy a bit o astronomy, I am an archer, and I have learned how to blacksmith.
Yeah this is just a list of activities with no correlation to attractiveness whatsoever
Edit: let me be clear, I've learned to blacksmith the cheating way with propane or natural gas AND the good old fashioned hand cranked coal fired away meant to coat your lungs with soot like a real man. And make sure you bring the borax cause we gonna do some welds
All the nerd hobbies are at the bottom of the list scoring negatives. Linux, video games, Warhammer, D&D and other, etc. this is why despite playing a music instrument, I couldn't get laid.
Eh, I find a lot of people the attraction is towards the person themselves and that makes them more interested in their hobbies anyway. Like if someone is into you, they'll probably try to take an interest in Warhammer or whatever because you're into it.
So a foreign manga reader that likes to work their wood whilst drawing furry pics from said manga, and travels to cons to display subsequent art - is the most irresistible person to women?
(Should probably think about doing some public garden porn photography tbh)
It's a shame being attractive is the most important thing about being attractive lol
I'm into cooking, astronomy, photography (astrophotography), and hiking. Used online dating (listed all those things) for almost 10 years and went on something like 7 dates. Still single lol I just gave up about a year ago
I have a few in that list too and yeah, online dating is really rough. I've had way more success meeting people IRL. Now that I'm a proper adult though, my hobbies don't really expose me to meeting new people and that's where it gets extra hard. Still haven't found a solution to get me out into public to meet people, friends or dating.
Online dating is the most damaging and predatory thing for man. I think at this point research shows quite clearly that is very detrimental for men's mental health
If self worth would have a numerical value, before online dating mine was in the single digits, maybe teens, out of 100. After, it's deep in the negatives.
That's a pretty big issue of mine as well. I'm 38 and I live around a sea of old people. Not only is where I live too expensive for people my age, but there isn't really anything to do where you could meet someone. I have absolutely no interest in going to a bar, I don't even drink anymore.
No amount of desirable hobbies will ever make up for ugly. If you’re handsome then your hobbies are considered cute and they are markers of your creativity. If you are ugly then those same hobbies are evidence that you are a dweeb, goober, dork, or weird.
Essentially just be a renaissance man. It's much easier to do when you're younger. I could've ticked off over half the list 10 years ago, but now it's just reading, cooking and writing. I don't have the time or energy for much outside of work these days.
Photography seems to only invite critique, archery tends to be a short subkect of conversation but 3d printing usually leads to the most questions and takes up a larger part of the conversation.
When i played bass, no one really showed any interest other than one friends who caught me playing a small part of something i was figuring out how to follow it up and wanted to sample it. Which eventually led to nothing.
I designed a silencer for airsoft in fusion360 and already sold 10, a friend asked me to print a spitfire and i eventually summoned up the idea to make some spitfire exhausts he could mount on his spitfire themed mini cooper, my archery club has these plastic stars that tend to be used on the carnival for air guns so i designed some custom ones with their logo "just because". I also printed some trophy's which i still have to give out.
Once you get a reliable 3d printer and learn the software well enough, it is an amazing hobby.
The wife paints miniatures (think warhammer for example) and she needs plinths for her competition models. So i shit out a custom plinth within an hour including print time. It's so awesome and after 5 years i'm still amazed when i get to hold something that was nothing more than a digital design a mere hour before, i have a mini factory inside my house that only produces what i tell it to...it's absolutely insane.
My girlfriend loves the little trinkets and doodads I run off for her. I gave her a little tree that holds her jewelry and she got all moony and immediately asked for a couple more. She also loves watching the machine run, almost as much as I do. n=1 but some girls find 3d printing incredibly romantic.
I want to see the list of attractive hobbies of gay men that gay men like. I bet it's like: Rugby, going to the gym, video games, 3d printing, sashaying, cooking
Any women here who can give insight on why woodworking is attractive? I thought my hands would be too grimy with sharpening grit, everything covered in chips and shavings and my hands covered in scars for it to be considered attractive.
Also do you find power tools or hand tools more attractive?
I really want to understand what's the big deal about foreign languages. If both speak the same second language, then maybe having a few conversations in it might be fun, but if you don't what is exciting about someone that can say things you don't understand?
What do you mean Linux is not in the list?
It's there right at number one, reading. Nobody reads more wikis or man pages than a Linux enjoyer.
man touchHuman contact?
Ewww, no.
Humans? Disgusting.
Furries? OwO!
date; wine; cd ~; talk; touch; unzip; touch; strip; gasp; finger; gasp; mount; fsck; nice; more; yes; gasp; man paste; eject; gasp; umount; make clean; sleepArt 👌
cat is watching you the whole time, judging...
"I'm really looking for a guy who can self host a matrix instance"
Then when you meet her you can't the service up. "I swear I've never had this happen before"
"I have 99,99% uptime I swear!"
When you propose it comes with an SLA
Imagine when they find out you run your own media server. Bad boys out there downloading videos without licenses about to pop off on dating sites because no one can afford the "Netflix" part of netflix and chill
sploosh
That usually counts towards having enough money for half of the hobbies listed.
That’s because the deal has already been sealed. They typically wanna keep you off the market, not increase your “resale” value. Unless you’re into that kinda thing. Like, cucking or sharing kinda kinks, not human trafficking. Human trafficking isn’t sexy. Unless you’re into that kind of thing. Like, as a fantasy, not as a real thing. Real human trafficking isn’t sexy. Unless you’re into that kinda thing. Like, as in humans stuck in traffic or transforming into cars and being stuck in traffic, not as being sold as a commodity. Unless you’re into that kind of thing.
Reading this as I'm waking up and really questioning if I'm actually awake or not
It kind of reads like the thought process of someone who just woke up, too.
If you are into that kind of thing
Wow really put something in for everyone with that comment.
^what^
I have a friend who’s very attracted to her husband’s woodworking. Mind you he’s a world class artisan for equipment for a shared hobby of theirs, but still, she’s very supportive of his lathe purchases.
Hey if I were married to you I would support your hobbies and interests. I'd want you to be happy.
Lathes are expensive though, so if there expense were to come from our shared account we would need to have a discussion first.
"traveling" yikes.
That is one way to say, you think wealth is attractive.
I have traveled quite a bit and I like it a lot, but it is no hobby. For it to be a hobby, I would have to have a lot more money.
Once or even twice a year, is hardly a hobby.
"I'M NOT DRIVING OFFICER, IM TRAVELLING!"
Gets 'em so wet
sound of breaking window
That explains why there are so many of them. It is for the WAP.
It could also just be women thinking, "I'd like to visit _____ when I'm able, I want my partner to go with me." Working in a passport office, I've met a shocking number of men who have never left the US (or sometimes even the state) by choice. Then their wife or girlfriend wants to go to Mexico or something, and they come in talking about how they're only doing it for her and they'd never travel if it was up to them.
Anyway, I'd consider traveling one of my hobbies even though I can't afford to do it often - plenty of time is spent planning and looking at things to do, so it goes beyond just the few days of the trip.
I think so too.
I've met people who are extremely happy living in their small town life doing small town things, then get angry or confused why anybody would want to go someplace "exotic".
Maybe "travelling as a hobby" as a women's preference with regards to men is at about it being a man's openness and ability to deal with totally different environments, disposable income, time availability and possibly foreign language skills.
Ah it's a yellow flag! Boys, we're cracking the women code!
I'm one of those people. I've never flown, rarely leave my state. My wife wants to travel, but we haven't yet. I, personally, have no interest in it. Just like sports and most popular movie franchises. I just have no feelings about it at all. It seems like a huge hassle.
Yea same. New places, new people, and trying to figure out where I'm going stress me the fuck out. A vacation is just a whole week of that. No thanks. I want to use my time off to relax. If someone else wants to plan the whole thing and I just follow them around it's fine but I don't want to deal with that shit myself. It's not enjoyable to me at all.
I don't think there's necessarily anything wrong with that, it's just not going to be compatible with everyone. I would never date anyone who didn't prioritize travel at least a little, but that's definitely not universal.
You can travel without spending a lot of money, people call it backpacking.
Time off is expensive
It's unclear what countries this poll includes, having minimum paid leave is the law in most of the world. There's also quite a few careers that involve forced time off.
In the US you have just enough time off to be sick a couple of times a year. (If you're lucky)
Yep
College educated US women iirc. I found the source at some point
If you live at home or are technically homeless it doesn't really matter. If you can save up a bit and have a charismatic personality you can go far, especially if you're willing to pick up shitty temporary jobs in places where you go. I had a friend who would do this all the time and periodically return home to work at a reliable job while living with a friend, save up more, then fly off to somewhere for a few months.
"I love camping, I usually do it under bridges and in gutters."
"Fun" fact, this is actually why my mom has no interest in camping as an adult. Her family was homeless a lot when she was a kid and her mom disguised it as a fun extended camping trip. The kids bought it for the most part, because the family really did camp for fun, and they were used to fishing for dinner and things, but she said as she got older, she realized things like the month long trip in November were because they lost their housing.
My wife hates camping. She needs electricity, a toilet, wifi, etc.
I never thought about why until your comment. My wife moved houses every few months as a kid. Maybe 10-15 times total before before college.
Maybe, though that lifestyle is very unconducive to relationships generally.
I think my friend would disagree. Like I said, with charisma you can go far and my friend had nothing if not charisma
Depends how you typically live
For the vast majority of you, long travel is required to get to somewhere you can backpack. And the the gear and foodstuffs is expensive also. And judging by the damages to the environment that some inconsiderate people leave these days, I'm not sure that you should be allowed to. (I'm getting sick and tired of picking up garbage and hauling it out of the forest I live in).
"Backpacking" can also mean couch surfing and staying in hostels or on park benches. In the early 2000's, it was a really popular way to travel across Europe (at least among rich white college kids)
Is hostels still a thing for young people?
I wonder if AirBnB destroyed that industry. I saw a "hostel" in my city but it was charging $70 a night. When I was growing up, hostels were like $20-30 a night, cheaper than a motel 6.
Afaik, they're still around, but inflation and popularity has caused the prices to increase a fair bit.
Or be in a religious cult like Mormons. Of course they will send you to a foreign country and confiscate your passport until your 1.5-2 years are over.
Do they really confiscate your passport?!
Holy shit thats what Dubai employers do to keep their servants enslaved!
I remember listening to some pop song and realizing that it was basically "You love me 'cause I'm rich". Do you like trashing hotel rooms, going places you have never been? I don't remember what song it was or the exact lyrics, but I just hated the guy then and there.
Is it not?
Depends.
If they flaunt it with their fancy cars and designer clothes, I think they're gross.
If they look like a hobo but are highly educated about finances... Aaaaay bay bee how you doin? Wink at me, you economist with a 401K who ties her hair up because she hasn't showered in days because she was doing data science. Spit in my mouth, you engineer with a diverse stock portfolio who wears the same hoodie you wore in college because clothes shopping is hard and you want to focus on optimizing your CI pipelines. Choke me, you tenured professor with a mature retirement fund who dedicated their life building physics engines to teach grad students.
I wasn't saying it's like that for everyone but rather in a generalized way being wealthy seems to be a factor in making someone seem more attractive.
There was this study where they asked a theater full of women to rate the attractiveness of men, based on a photo and a profession. Then they changed all the professions (but kept the same photos) and did it again.
The same picture with a higher-paying job was rated significantly higher.
Wealth and social status and what those can provide are just attractive features to people.
I love being in other countries and meeting new people and learning about their culture. But I fucking haaaaate traveling.
A lot of these hobbies are wealth-adjacent.
Playing an instrument: a good instrument isn't cheap, and music lessons can be pretty expensive.
Woodworking requires a lot of fairly expensive tools, and a space to do it. You can't really have woodworking as a hobby if you live in a small studio apartment. You basically need a house, either one with a basement, a shed or a garage.
Gardening: requires a garden, something you're unlikely to have unless you have your own house.
Photography: I don't know anybody who is into photography who hasn't sunk a lot of money into the hobby. There's the cameras, the lenses, and even the software these days.
Astronomy: see above.
Hiking: not expensive on its own, but in North America it means being able to drive to a wilderness spot outside the city, so you pretty much require your own car.
Archery and blacksmithing: again, requires a specialized space
Now, I know that there are cheap options for a lot of these. A musician could be someone drumming on an upside-down pail. Someone who only has access to a hotplate could still experiment with food. Woodworking could be just whittling sticks found in the park. Gardening could just be tending to a small houseplant. But, are these the version of the hobbies the women are picturing when they're imagining a potential mate doing the activity? Probably not.
Meanwhile, a lot of the stuff at the bottom of the list are very cheap hobbies. Like being influenced by the "Manosphere" just requires access to social media, same with porn and "arguing online".
Honestly, it looks to me like if you sorted the list by "dollars per hour someone invested in that hobby is likely to spend" you'd get many of the same things at the top and many of the same ones at the bottom. Some of the few exceptions are writing and reading, which can be pretty cheap hobbies, but are still apparently very attractive.
For astronomy (really astrophotography, which is considered even more expensive) I guess it depends on what you consider expensive. For $500 and with 3 free software products I'm able to produce stuff like this:
A rather large telescope (8" dobsonian reflector) I have as well was "only" $500. So it can be a hobby that you don't need to spend all that much on, but again that depends on what we consider expensive. $500 is definitely not cheap but I'm just a schmuck in a factory and I could save for that.
I'm sure you know other people spending thousands on their gear. Anyhow, many of these hobbies can be done relatively cheaply, but I imagine the woman picturing the man doing it as someone who wasn't going the ultra-cheap route.
Nice picture btw. How far do you have to travel to get somewhere where there's a low enough level of light pollution that you can take a picture like that?
Thanks! I'm lucky enough to live in a bortle 4 zone so that was taken right outside my house, it's just processed a bit to pull out the colors and darken the background.
Cool stuff, I live in a city. Not a huge city, but big enough that I only see the major stars at night. It would probably take me at least 45 minutes of driving to get somewhere dark enough to take a picture like yours (assuming I had all the equipment and skill to take that kind of picture at all).
I have shit ton of these, man I am the sexiest man alive /s.
These all great traits, I remember to include them if I ever have to go back out into the dating world. Please I hope that never happens.
I travelled the most when I was poorest, myself.
"Top 15 hobbies that sound attractive to women"
Blacksmithing is 88% Was this list made by a metal shop kid?
"Oh babe, I love your soda lime mix. You're not like those other brittle iron bitches out there"
Being handy is attractive. Getting a nice unique present is cool. And blacksmiths / woodworkers are the ones that do that kind of stuff.
I'm also willing to bet that the blacksmith they are picturing looks very different from your average blacksmith.
To be fair my limited experience with blacksmithing has given me the distinct impression that I would have magnificent arms if I did it regularly
While there's some outliers especially thanks to power hammers, a dedicated blacksmith looks a lot closer to a strongman competitor than mr universe.
If you did it in the olde fashioneded way with a manual hammer, manually stoking the forge with a bellows, etc., then sure. But AFAIK modern blacksmithing is pretty similar to modern carpentry or welding or any other hobby where the machines do most of the work. It's still a somewhat active hobby, compared to doing something with a computer. But, I don't think a modern blacksmith is going to get huge arms from doing it.
I only know one guy who is into blacksmithing and - being a nerd myself, I say this with kindness - but this dude is a super nerd. He's also one of the scrawniest dudes I know. I've heard him tell women that he's into blacksmithing before and it definitely does not have the desired effect that this chart would imply.
You always have to consider Rule #1 when taking these things into account.
I've met a TON of blacksmiths and they usually just look like normal guys but slightly more buff, often overweight. The machinery does most of the work.
So explain why IS 3D printing not higher on the list then?
Because downloading an stl and hitting print isn't really craftsmanship
Yea, I would wonder why hobby engineering isn't on the list, or something like 'maker' I think 3d printing as a stand alone is more of a support, it would be like, instead of woodworking, the hobby is 'sawing' it's part of it, but engineering is what the hobby is actually.
Because a blacksmith, woodworker or a metalworker are all makers. Ultimately what matters is it is a highly skilled thing that triggers imagination and creates something out of "nothing". Differentiating between those as hobbies is a matter of how often the hobby is chosen / represented online. There are more woodworkers than metalworkers. Less blacksmiths, so you think of "blacksmith" less when asked what's "hot".
I can not fathom how blacksmithing is LOWER on the list than reading. "The dude with the hammer looks nice, but that other one over there is sitting on a sofa for HOURS on end"
Maybe because reading is a sign of being intelligent/cultured in people's mind, and people on average value that slightly more than physical fitness
Reading demonstrates culturing, education, pursuit of knowledge, and willingness for good conversation. It’s also a hobby that can be practiced together (my wife and I have even devised a technique for how to best read books together)
Blacksmithing is one of the few hobbies that a guy probably can’t teach his girlfriend because women usually use a different technique to make up for strength differences. It’s hot for sure, but it’s hot in a “I’m going to watch you but it’s expensive in time and money, and I may wind up stuck selling at ren faires forever” way as opposed to a “even when we’re old we’ll still be discussing literature” way
I'm a woman, I can definitely learn to smith, and have done it a few times (I do reenactment, there's basically guaranteed to be a few blacksmithsin every friend group). I definitely couldn't do it for a living, but as an occasional hobby, sure.
And I haven't met a guy into smithing who didn't also like a fit partner, so hey.
Hehe
Oh I’m not disagreeing that we can learn. I’d just heard we tend to use a different technique than men, but I’ve never tried and none of my friends that are into sca are smiths so I was never taught otherwise.
Smithing is a hobby I’d love to take up if I had a lot of time, money, and trust from my wife that I won’t hurt myself
I so metal working as a hobby. You’ll hurt yourself, but it’s usually burns and using the the hammers as a thumb detector. Fingernails grow back though usually. It’s the angle grinders you gotta respect.
Tell her that scars are cool and go for it!
Just wear eye and ear protection, and get a good leather apron and welding gloves.
It’s the first one isn’t it?
Lol, no. First person reads one chapter than we take turns reading two and passing the book. It keeps us excited and lets us talk about it as we go without major spoilers
Awwwwwwww
😍
Me, a woman who tried blacksmithing before: Don't use spring steel or other metals that are hard to manipulate/hammer into shape when starting off. Don't start with a sword, start with bending and twisting a nail into... whatever. If they like the hobby they'll stick to it and the muscle will build over time. And if it doesn't: power tools.
Good to know, I’m a woman who’d apparently been misinformed but it is one of those things I’ve always wanted to try, but it’s not an ADHD “pick up every hobby” friendly one
That's true. I was in luck and there was a blacksmith in town who opens his workshop to kids on occasion or travels to job conventions and brought his tools with him. Maybe there are comparable activities/ offers near you, which I can highly recommend. Not only will you not have to worry about tools and materials, most importantly there will be a "teacher" around.
If you find something and decide to check it out, have fun! :)
"Brittle iron bitches" has been added to my dictionary of insults.
Sincerely
The Big Ductile Energy gang
I had 10/15 of these when I was single, and I was single for a very long time. That is how I had the time to learn all these hobbies/skills.
Judging by what I see on dating sites, fishing is near the bottom of the list. So many women's profiles say something like "I don't want to see a picture of you holding a fish"
I read, write, and cook, and can play several instruments (kazoo, mouth harp, washboard, tamborine,...). Where's the women that find me attractive?
the trick is that you have to find them instead of just waiting for one to pop out of the ether
Well that's some bullshit. 😠
Wait, are you not the blue name guy? Why is your name normal?
(edit: It is because of voyager lol)
They added tags and took away my actual flair. 😔
You're still beautiful on Thunder for android
Not on thunder beta lol
What do you mean?
Voyager recently added user tags (allows you to label other users) but the app also doesn't appear to use the display name option available in Lemmy (or at least no one has it enabled from the screenshots I've seen posted), so it just shows the username you use to log in, which doesn't have special characters.
My display name is my username, but spelled using emojis in case you don't see it that way, either.
Oh, I see. Voyager doesn't show that because display names are confusing for mentions, can be used to impersonate, and distracting. It might be an option to enable in the future, off by default.
Edit:
Claim
To clarify how I really feel, here's my hot take:
display_nameis a really awful feature and should be removed from Lemmy.Why?
They are dangerous by default because the very concept implies that clients should render
display_nameinstead of the username, if it exists. Which is unwise: Apps have to choose between replacing (bad for impersonation/UX/distraction reasons) and showing both (which just looks duplicative most of the time).What makes this feature even more frustrating is that people are now using display names for their username + flairs of actually important things, like gender identities. (for example,
display_name="Alex (he/his)")It's a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation for Lemmy clients. Some people are using
display_namefor important info like gender identities, and yetdisplay_nameis so incredibly easy to impersonate people and otherwise abuse.Solution?
What is the solution? I think Lemmy should ditch
display_nameand replace withflair(or something like this). The general idea is thatflairis NOT a replacement for your username, but rather it will be displayed alongside it.Maybe even make flair per-community like Reddit. I think that was a much better design than what Lemmy currently has.
We keep telling you that you gotta stop winking when you tell people you play the mouth harp.
I read, write, cook, paint, swim, travel, and hike, and last gardening. I should be rolling in it. But my wife finds me sexy so I got that going for me.
Just outside of you FOV. If you spin fast enough, you're bound to see them.
Nothing more sexy than a mouth harp (I always knew it as a jaw harp and have three) uwu
My reaction
On Barq?
"Women love when i show them my extruder nozzle"
Getting high and playing video games?
Pretty sure those made the other list for least attractive
Edit: the other chart
...11% of women find men who watch pornography attractive?
12% of women find men who argue online attractive?
23% of women are into cryptobros??
Plenty of women watch porn themselves. These 11% are not hypocrites.
Yeah I poop too, but I don't find it attractive.
I think this is from a survey, so keep in mind that its people reading and answering questions. Some number of people always interpret it a different way or misread.
A lot of cryptobros claim to have gotten rich, or seem likely to be flashing their money around. If someone is throwing money around, why not be somewhere you can catch some
Watch porn, or make porn? I know a few friends who would find latter attractive. Not so much the former.
Wait so making porn is hot but watching it isn't? That's crazy to me
Yeah. It's kind of like being an actor vs just enjoying watching movies.
These lists make the most sense if you just imagine the stereotype the hobby exudes. Woodworkers are rugged, work with their hands, have a bushy beard and smell like fresh cut wood all the time, meanwhile someone who's hobby is watching porn is overweight, hasn't showered in a week and will have unrealistic expectations of you while struggling to perform in bed himself. But someone who makes porn is buff, squeaky clean and knows his way around a women's body.
How can reading be no 1 most attractive and comic books are on the unattractive side of the list?
I think it's collecting vs reading. I'm a lady and read comics, well graphic novels, I don't buy the individual issues. Half my bookshelf is graphic novels trade paperbacks. But I do not collect, trade, sell, I don't think of them like that, they are for reading and enjoying.
Collecting I can see as an unattractive trait because it's too close to hoarding.
Whew that was a close one. I started reading comics again a few years ago and only have been getting TPB or HCs. Who has space for boxes of singles?
If you're genuine: reading brings to mind books, and people might see books as intellectual but comics as geeky/childish
WTH is manosphere? Afraid to google 😅
Manosphere is (to my understanding) Andrew Tate, Joe Rogan, etc. Basically content that promotes men acting like Neanderthals. Why any percentage of women found that attractive is beyond my comprehension.
Andrew Tate, Joe Rogan, Jordan Peterson. Basically online misogyny. People who blame women for everything, or think that there's such a thing as an "alpha" man, or who use the word "cuck". Basically incels, supposed "men's rights activists", date rapists and date rapists in training, etc.
I‘m multiple times on both ends.
The only balance I have in my life.
If I wasn't already partnered this list would bother me
Ok says here MTG 28.5% but what about YuGiOh?
Ok, but most of those shouldn't even be considered hobbies. Like poker can be a hobby but if your hobby is just "gambling" then you probably have an issue. I guess your hobby could be porn if you're in the kink scene and into making porn or something, but while watching porn is ok, if you consider watching porn a hobby then you may have an issue.
They just hate when men have fun >:(
Arguing Online: Women are just not ready for Skankhunt42
Cosplay: Yeah I bet it's equally least attractive the other way around lmao
lol at crypto
Textbook Lizardman Constant right there at the bottom.
I'd make both a pretty great, and kinda shitty male..
Wait, ppl seriously consider drinking a hobby?
I like that Debating is rated at 30.?% but there's a separate category for "Arguing Online".
I guess that being a Master Debater who comments on people's posts "Debate Me Bro!" doesn't count for the slightly more preferred category?
Wtf, I know how obnoxious stoners can be, but have these ladies even met a cigar snob ? They're worse, and it smells worse too !
To be fair, I enjoy both these things but I don't know that I would classify them as hobbies, more as something I do to wind down. I can see video games going into hobby or even profession territory but THC is just a medicine for me. A hobby is something that needs to challenge me, in which I learn things and get better at it.
I make mods for video games. It actually pays out too, I make a few hundred a year. It's basically computer parts money lol.
Does that count as a hobby? I'm afraid to ask, women are pretty judgy about this stuff.
Tl;dr: any interest is interesting and attractive. In particular if it can be done without annoying your partner and shows your ability to think independently. If it produces something useful that's cool, too.
Interested people are interesting.
can some one explain this meme to me?
I can't find Saddam Huisen
When does cooking stop counting as a basic day to day survival thing and start counting as a hobby?
I placed the thing in a plate. It's plated now.
But yeah, I get your point.
The difference between "cooking" and "hobby cooking" :
When you worry about the brand of the olive oil you use and the cost, (over $100 per knife), of your kitchen knives. And your stove is a $4000 induction model with 2 ovens.
Source: My one Son-in-law. But the son-of-a-bitch CAN really cook!
Jokes on you, my knife cost me $40 in steel, wood, brass, and sanding belts because I make my OWN knives for my cooking.
You know, I think I might just have two hobbies and one saved me money on the other....
What about the cost of the grinder, HT furnace, drill and drill bits, and anvil and hammers? Are you really sure you saved any money? /jk
Keep banging them out!
Rule number 1: never talk about the cost of tools.
I have two Kitchenaid mixers, and all my specialty tools. Cooking and baking can definitely be a hobby. We have the meals to survive. Then we have the shit I make that tskes a list of ingredients a mile long and all day to accomplish. But goddamm they are some great food.
That brings up an interesting thought.
Am I a cooking enthusiast because I spend time hunting/fishing/foraging wild ingredients? Many of my neighbors do some foraging and hunt and fish also. (I live on a lake in the middle of a very large forest). Or does the fact I made 10lbs of home smoked Canadian bacon in my own smoker this fall make me a cooking enthusiast? Maybe the breads I sometimes bake? Or the hand harvested and then parched over a wood fire wild rice I traded some of my bacon for from my one neighbor?
Am I a cooking hobbyist? Or am I just cooking to survive? Where is the line drawn?
Not sure depends. If you didn't do any of that would you still survive?
Would I survive? Perhaps not so well. Everything I forage or hunt and fish for reduces the amount of dollars spent on buying groceries. And a good portion of what we eat you can't buy in a store.
The second part of that comment sounds like you are a culinary enthusiast not a survivalist. Like, I grow stuff in the garden to get better, fresher foods and varieties I don't see in the store, and also for the local bees Saving money is secondary(tertiary?), though I think at this point the lines may have crossed and we are saving some money. I do it because I like good food.
If I lived where there was more to forage, you can bet your ass I would be foraging too. Wild food is awesome.
It's probable, I do like to cook and do it well. Though I don't own a single kitchen knife that costs over $10US. But, that foraging really makes a large difference in the grocery bill also. Particularly when the grocery store is a mere 100 mile round trip away.
I tend to think I'm somewhere in the middle of surviving and hobbyist. I grew up poor and I'm often just doing the same things I have always done since childhood because we needed to. And I continue to do a lot of it simply because of habit and I do enjoy eating everything I forage.
Why would you need 2 mixers? That's an honest question, I'm really curious.
One got the second on sale, and when baking cakes easier and faster with 2. But also last time I baked a cake and was making cookies. Having 2 mixers was awesome for that.
There are a surprising amount of old kids that can't even boil water for pasta. No one looking to date wants to date an old kid they need to take care of. (Some people do, but burnout is real)
In my experience most adults can boil pasta.
... And boil it.... And boil it..... And DEAR GOD TAKE IT OFF THE STOVE AND DRAIN IT BEFORE IT BECOMES MUSH!
When you start to have to worry about them finding out you've out-pizzad the hut.
Yeah I burn the kids out of pizza and calzone for awhile when I got into pizza making. I had to try many different ways to make it so we ate it everyday for a week.
Cooking qs a Hobby is not throwing together a Quick meal, but actually making an effort to cook. I.e. trying new things, cooking homemade pizza or even a roast.
"throwing together a quick meal" should have it's own word.
"cooking" to me implies you're working on something worth the time it takes, something you want to put effort into.
But when I just got home, nothing is easy to make and I have to throw something quick together, it doesn't feel like really cooking to me. Like im half assing it, it should have a half-assed name.
My kids love these meals and I'm not sure why. I usually say "watch me pull a rabbit out of this hat!" and throw something together. Unless it's a stir fry, they don't like that. But a leftover baked potato becoming home fries with eggs and the half a tomato and half an onion from the fridge? The leftover cabbage going into the last handful of lentils for a stew? Casserole of leftover pasta, odds and ends with cheese, topped with bread crumbs? They are so happy with these oddball meals for some reason, and I think if you can make something with whatever you have, that IS a valuable cooking skill.
Exactly, I am always looking for new and exciting things to try. Also subscribe to shit ton of cooking channels on YouTube, and blogs. Also subscribe to a magazine subscription which I was exited that I could still do that. Also have a ton of cook books and always looking for more.
When you are making everything from scratch, cooking becomes a hobby. You can make tacos and buy a salsa from the store and make some good tacos, but when you are making the salsa and thinking that you should add just a bit more of something, you are in hobby territory.
Smoking meats is a hobby. To get dinner ready, you start at 3am and tend the firebox all day. You try different rubs, woods, and techniques to make the product of your craft the best it can be.
Making pizza from scratch is a hobby. You make may make dozens of pizzas to just get the sauce, dough, or crust right.
Following a recipe to make something is not a hobby unless it is just a starting point in something you wish to refine and make your own.
I agree with all but the last part.
Following a recipe can absolutely be a hobby. You can take a lot of enjoyment out of it, and it's even useful.
I wouldn't say it's an art, but it's definitely a hobby.
3am?!? What tiny little brisket are you doing at 225 to start that late? You've got to leave time for it to rest.
Ok, in all seriousness this is one of my main hobbies. By that I mean I do it often and I've stuck with it for years while other hobbies have come and gone. I've got a couple of offset smokers, a drum smoker that I built, and a pellet smoker when I don't have the time to tend the firebox but still want to smoke something.
I said all that to say this: there are plenty of people who couldn't give two shits about smoking meats who absolutely come ask me questions about it. Not because I'm the best, and not because they want it to be their hobby. But because I'm excited to talk about it. I also tend to bring full plates with me for my friends (and usually a couple of extras) so they get the benefit of having food.
I've also had women ask if they can come hang out next time I crank up the smoker. It's an easy way in for someone who wouldn't normally be confident enough to approach you.
You're always following some form of a recipe unless you're blindly experimenting
When you stop using boxed pasta.
Dried pasta is far superior to fresh pasta for most dishes.
[Insert the graph meme]
Dried pasta ----- homemade pasta ---- Dried pasta
Fresh pasta basically only if you're wanting to stuff pasta or make some shape you can't buy
I bought pasta maker but haven't used it yet. But I am ready to make my own Ramen.
Can say personally when I made a Pinterest account to save recipes lol
I stopped making peanut butter and jelly sandwiches because I lost the recipe.
Got reading and foreign languages, woohoo!
*groans* So much for my gay ass...
I’m not into guys but as a woman I’m surprised blacksmithing isn’t higher. How am I supposed to be your knight in shining armor if you can’t make me some shining armor?
More like "things women want attractive people to be into"
Uh, there is a typo, the second probably should say "functional languages". We all know how people are attracted to map, filter, and reduce.
Unironically, most of the women I've spoken too have found it attractive when I bring up 3dPrinting. It's an active and interesting hobby, and tangible & crafty enough not to be too "nerdy" or whatever. Perfect middle ground, women love it.
They probably just didn't think of it or it wasn't on the poll.
plasticsmithing!
It's weird that mechanical keyboard isn't on the list
How are keyboards a hobby?
NO
If you haven't fallen down the keyboard rabbit hole then you don't know just how far it goes...
It very much can be a hobby costing thousands of dollars and resulting in several keyboard projects.
For your own sanity and wallet, it is best that you do not investigate further.
Hey guuurl my hobby is consumerism
Typed from my IBM 5251 beamspring
Nor gaming, nor drugs, nor watching TV/YouTube/Twitch, nor homelabbing... this is a wake-up call
And yet, whenever I get a new keyboard or caps there is a nontrivial chance my wife will steal them.
Wow, that's awesome
I wonder where "gay sex" ranks
Is there a source for this graph? Would like to read the rest of it
So, lots of Linux fans should be fairly attractive. Like we read (the docs), know a few languages (at least bash), occasionally write scripts, travel (between distros), and archers became a huge meme 🙃
But you annoy users with unreliability and difficulty to repair and time to implement. UX is important. You can't have home improvement work sites lingering.
Seriously, has no one considered/been on the wrong side of the PAF (partner approval factor) curve?
Haven't tested macos myself (and ain't going to due to progressing hardware enshitification), but windows isn't any better, in my experience.
The only kinda benefit is that you often don't need to install it and are likely accustomed to using it. But then come problems. First, you need to remove a metric ton of crap by both vendor and Microsoft, so much so it's often easier to install a clean msdn image (which negates the benefit of windows being preinstalled). And if you happen to remove more unnecessary crap than expected by Microsoft, you also get weird and hard yo track issues.
Then reliability... The last time I needed it, w10 bsoded (oh, yeah, the famous undifficult to repair "smth died, and we want tell you what exactly"; so much better than logs in Linux, am I right?) 5 mins after install from an original msdn image, and after reinstalling touchpad and trackpoint didn't work properly, for example. So, that's actually worse than any Linux distro I've tried so far. But idk, mb I'm just unlucky. Also, crowdstrike 🙃
Then the usual way to install software on windows... Which sucks hard: heck, even Slackware is better in that regard, and it kinda says a lot.
Soo, basically leaves us with "windows good 'cuz I know windows".
The musical instrument thing is transitory and depends entirely on the instrument.
Pre-relationship; in a popular band playing a more traditional instrument like guitar with a bunch of also attractive people (or at least part of a cool local scene) = hot
In a relationship and/or solo bedroom producing any kind of electronic music and/or buying lots of synthesizers, drum machines or grooveboxes = not hot
Also note how low "clubbing" is on the least attractive list, so no, DJs and electronic musicians who perform live don't get a pass
Here is the source so you can feel bad about yourself
https://datepsychology.com/the-most-and-least-attractive-male-hobbies/
I read books about social studies and think I may fall into the same camp. What books do woman deem sexy?
Then you aren't reading books you are reading comics
Are light novels comics?
No, but they are illustrated
Uhhh light novels are mostly text with maybe 5 illustrations in a 300pg book. Perhaps you’re thinking of manga?
No, that's basically what I meant.
Where is RuneScape
TIL I'm a chick magnet
I beg to argue that being able to 3d model the figures and printing your own original creations is far more attractive than downloading a file aomeone else made and printing that.
I love how some of those hobbies are literally just chores but fun
"Reading"
Strangely enough, reading RPG and skirmish game rulebooks doesn't seem to fit that bill.
Also, 3D printers, get your painting skills ready and paint the stuff you print. Easy peasy lemon squeezy
No one should undertake hobbies because they are attractive to someone else. Unless you want to join groups where you can meet people you’re attracted to, then the activity is just an excuse to mingle. But you are more likely to find a hobby rewarding if you are genuinely interested in it, no matter what others think.
Does growing cannabis count as gardening and what about painting figures?
I used to work at a leather shop. I can say alot of women find that pretty attractive. Too bad I'm asexual.
Release the full list.
I want to see the red flag hobbies
My bf is really hot when he prints stuff for me tho.
Read this too fast and thought it said most attractive male Hobbits and I was really intrigued
Sad beans
I'm a 4 and 7 with a touch of 1, so I guess I'm a hot commodity.
....my dating history tells me otherwise.
What if you find yourself reading a culinary arts textbook in a foreign language?
What about my practicing the Art of the Blade™?
I think this is cool. Many of these are accessible and cheap. Most of these are "do you get out of the house and spend time on something" which is obvious. Looks like most hobbies are attractive, like even anime and cosplay have 1 out of 4 women who is into that and finds it attractive.
I also love the huge correlation between the top 15 and what men think is the top 15, the main difference is that men didn't think hobbies were attractive enough.
I'd love to see the reversed list for what men think are attractive hobbies for a woman!
Cooking is my love language. I'm also a sole provider.
If anyone wants to learn to blacksmith Black bear forge has a good intro series https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLHta7NIJ9npbTNOR4JQW_IlDnCTxM2wV4
And lemmy has a blacksmithing community that could use more posts
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I used to be a heartthrob like you, but then I took an arrow to the knee.
And now I’m 89.5% sexier!
underrated comment xD
Anyone have the least attractive? I want to check something.
modding porn subreddits? I mean, under that i think only illegal stuff are, like "robbing banks" and stuff
Never heard of Bonny & Clide, huh? Or Robin Hood? I guess robbing banks can be damn attractive.
Okay, maybe i should have picked a different bad example xD
Idk Arthur Morgan seems pretty popular. Might want to bump bank robbers up a few spots
https://datepsychology.com/the-most-and-least-attractive-male-hobbies/
Let me know how bad you feel about yourself afterwards
OK actually. I talked it over with my partner. It seems constructive interest is attractive.
Archery. Archery? Whose hobby is that?
I've read manual for my new 3D printer but it was in a foreign language so I had to cook up a way to understand it, luckily I travel a lot so learning languages is not that difficult for me. I hope that this writing paints good enough of a picture on how it went. I forged up some way to accelerate my learning process so that I could get trough it swift like an arrow. There certainly were some steep inclines which I had to overcome but in the end it all went swimmingly. The only issue was that I could not muster any courage to approach my crush. I just stood there like a stump and stared at her eyes that glistened like stars. In the end it turned out she was a hoe so I dodged a bullet.
Ahh yes... my favorite hobby... foreign languages.
They probably just didn't ask about RTLSDR, otherwise it would be quite prominent, I'm sure.
RTLSDR feeding into Home Assistant. That's the money shot.
"Yeah girl, my bathroom lights come on automatically when you walk in. I've even set them to 30% brightness.... After bedtime."
If only my wife truly appreciated me lol
I think my wife was mildly amused by it at first (I was playing with X10 automation long before she came into the picture), but quickly started to like it because it meant that we always came home to the lights on, stuff like that.
And there's one button to shut off the outside lights and "evening" lights in the house when we're going to bed.
Forklift certs ain't nothing compared to amateur radio. When you get that personalized license plate too... They're going to be climbing over their boyfriends just to hear you ask for an RST from the guy you bounced to with 10m.
Lmfao
Let's see: I love reading, I am learning French, I paint, I write, I enjoy a bit o astronomy, I am an archer, and I have learned how to blacksmith.
Yeah this is just a list of activities with no correlation to attractiveness whatsoever
Edit: let me be clear, I've learned to blacksmith the cheating way with propane or natural gas AND the good old fashioned hand cranked coal fired away meant to coat your lungs with soot like a real man. And make sure you bring the borax cause we gonna do some welds
All the nerd hobbies are at the bottom of the list scoring negatives. Linux, video games, Warhammer, D&D and other, etc. this is why despite playing a music instrument, I couldn't get laid.
Eh, I find a lot of people the attraction is towards the person themselves and that makes them more interested in their hobbies anyway. Like if someone is into you, they'll probably try to take an interest in Warhammer or whatever because you're into it.
Of course, this is a reply to a shitpost :D
"Attractive" hobbies are what can put you in a spotlight and get someone you have never met to pick and interest in you.
BTW, playing guitar definitely helped me get laid, and once that was done, it was a piece of cake to convert them to Linux !
So a foreign manga reader that likes to work their wood whilst drawing furry pics from said manga, and travels to cons to display subsequent art - is the most irresistible person to women?
(Should probably think about doing some public garden porn photography tbh)
That does make sense.
Also fails to mention mastery of nunchucks?
That's because I hog all the printing time.
Also, psa 4 men, if you just do cooking you'll be swimming.
DMing for D&D isn’t here? Damn it.
I assume that by painting they don't mean miniature painting. Unless it's Henry Cavill that does it?
where's golfing?
It's a shame being attractive is the most important thing about being attractive lol
I'm into cooking, astronomy, photography (astrophotography), and hiking. Used online dating (listed all those things) for almost 10 years and went on something like 7 dates. Still single lol I just gave up about a year ago
I have a few in that list too and yeah, online dating is really rough. I've had way more success meeting people IRL. Now that I'm a proper adult though, my hobbies don't really expose me to meeting new people and that's where it gets extra hard. Still haven't found a solution to get me out into public to meet people, friends or dating.
Online dating is the most damaging and predatory thing for man. I think at this point research shows quite clearly that is very detrimental for men's mental health
Can confirm.
If self worth would have a numerical value, before online dating mine was in the single digits, maybe teens, out of 100. After, it's deep in the negatives.
That's a pretty big issue of mine as well. I'm 38 and I live around a sea of old people. Not only is where I live too expensive for people my age, but there isn't really anything to do where you could meet someone. I have absolutely no interest in going to a bar, I don't even drink anymore.
No amount of desirable hobbies will ever make up for ugly. If you’re handsome then your hobbies are considered cute and they are markers of your creativity. If you are ugly then those same hobbies are evidence that you are a dweeb, goober, dork, or weird.
Expect /r/3dprintingincels (general place for incels that do 3D printing) and /r/dark3dprinting (3D printing nazi memoribalia) going live.
Weird, "nerd for Marxism" isn't on there... good thing I can cook 😎
Where’s “beach”?
But I only got into woodworking after I met my husband!
Essentially just be a renaissance man. It's much easier to do when you're younger. I could've ticked off over half the list 10 years ago, but now it's just reading, cooking and writing. I don't have the time or energy for much outside of work these days.
What about editing Windows registry? What does that rank? Hkey local machine?
3D printing is not, but astronomy is? Is that even a hobby?
I do photography, archery and 3d printing.
Photography seems to only invite critique, archery tends to be a short subkect of conversation but 3d printing usually leads to the most questions and takes up a larger part of the conversation.
When i played bass, no one really showed any interest other than one friends who caught me playing a small part of something i was figuring out how to follow it up and wanted to sample it. Which eventually led to nothing.
I designed a silencer for airsoft in fusion360 and already sold 10, a friend asked me to print a spitfire and i eventually summoned up the idea to make some spitfire exhausts he could mount on his spitfire themed mini cooper, my archery club has these plastic stars that tend to be used on the carnival for air guns so i designed some custom ones with their logo "just because". I also printed some trophy's which i still have to give out.
Once you get a reliable 3d printer and learn the software well enough, it is an amazing hobby.
The wife paints miniatures (think warhammer for example) and she needs plinths for her competition models. So i shit out a custom plinth within an hour including print time. It's so awesome and after 5 years i'm still amazed when i get to hold something that was nothing more than a digital design a mere hour before, i have a mini factory inside my house that only produces what i tell it to...it's absolutely insane.
3D printing is just a tooI? blacksmithing? 3D print a 'lost-wax' plastic mould. Gardening? making some custom very specific mounts or drip ends.
You don't put on a hobby list 'wielding a brush'. It's what you do with it;
I can confirm that after a thousand times of don't it, cooking is no longer getting me any
Idiomas? やった！我不是失败者！
I do so well with reading and cooking but really let myself down with strangling small animals.
Back in the reprap days it was impressive but now all you do is press a button and you can print any size dildo you want.
Isn't this one of those fake lists to rage bait people?
So axe throwing is a good date idea! Got it
My girlfriend loves the little trinkets and doodads I run off for her. I gave her a little tree that holds her jewelry and she got all moony and immediately asked for a couple more. She also loves watching the machine run, almost as much as I do. n=1 but some girls find 3d printing incredibly romantic.
I want to see the list of attractive hobbies of gay men that gay men like. I bet it's like: Rugby, going to the gym, video games, 3d printing, sashaying, cooking
Any women here who can give insight on why woodworking is attractive? I thought my hands would be too grimy with sharpening grit, everything covered in chips and shavings and my hands covered in scars for it to be considered attractive.
Also do you find power tools or hand tools more attractive?
Which is why I have an orgy every night.
Surely it just barely missed the cutoff
... grabs accordion...
More accurately, top 15 lesbian hobbies
Does audiobooks count as reading or do I have to have that perfect picture of hipster with beard reading in a cozy cafe?
I really want to understand what's the big deal about foreign languages. If both speak the same second language, then maybe having a few conversations in it might be fun, but if you don't what is exciting about someone that can say things you don't understand?
where linux
Do audiobooks count as reading?
Don't think this applies to lemmy
I check like 5 outta that list and it ain't exactly giving results thr graph might suggest. Totally understandable tho.
1,2,4,6,7,8,10,12,15 I'd say of any of them that cooking is the one that I think really makes a difference.
I'm surprised that "being rich" and "being good looking" aren't on the list.
Then again, I suppose technically those aren't hobbies.
The number cero hobbie: don't be ugly
Hmmm. More kneck beards on Lemmy than I expected. Then again, why should I be surprised?
See, there's just one weird trick to overcome this, but fellas gotta be comfortable with a dick in their ass. Or mouth, that's a solid place too.