Spyke
lemmy.world

I don't feel lost in a crowd of shitposters. I post something on c/poetry, ten people upvote and I'm like hey ten people read this, that's cool. It feels real where Reddit does not often.

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Okokimupreply
lemmy.world

I am sometimes one of the ten. Thanks for sharing content.

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I'm glad you like! I've discovered that if I check out several poetry ebooks on my phone at a time I'll always stumble across something amazing. Someone asked me last week who my favourite poets are, and it's really a five way tie.

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anon6789reply
lemmy.world

Exactly this. Everyone has enough space to have their voice heard here. There aren't too many threads I read where i get bored before I read everyone's comments.

I post every day since I know people will see it and it won't immediately get buried. I get to know the names of people that regularly comment on my posts. Just seems more personal.

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Exactly. I feel like the smaller crowd and lack of stupid running joke comments makes it very positive.

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lemm.ee

Afaik upvote count on Reddit isn't even real anymore. It is still somehow rooted on the real count but their algorithm tampers with the count in undisclosed ways.

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lemmy.world

That's right, the votes are fuzzed. I left Reddit after I made a post about a Nazi, and Reddit banned me for harassing Nazis. Reddit is evidently ok with Nazis.

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Capitalist platforms are okay with anything until it's no longer good for business. Fascism, and by extension, Nazism, is generally good for business.

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I think one of the major benefits Lemmy has over Reddit is the intentional lack of user karma. I think, on balance, that entire dynamic was more harmful than helpful in the long run. Allowing voting on posts - but not aggregating votes across all comments and posts - still allows community sentiment to be expressed towards comments and conversations, but at the same time prevents the sort of popularity contest bullshit that became so prevalent on Reddit after its nascent years.

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Scrubblesreply
poptalk.scrubbles.tech

Agreed. Karma was fun when Reddit began because it was truly useless internet points, but quickly fell off as soon as people got too serious about it. Buying/selling accounts with high karma, rules about only posting when you have a karma threshold, and of course the endgame now of buying stock if you have high enough karma. It's just easier to throw away the whole concept here.

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Todayreply
lemmy.world

I never understood that.. Why did people want karma points? Was it anything more than having 'liked' posts? There's no real value. It's like when my BIL used to give all the kids brownie points for getting salsa or reading a book.

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Personal insecurity. The same reason why Instagram exists.

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If you gamify something people with addiction and addiction-adjacent problems will inevitably interact with it in the gamified way. This was the first state of the karma system harming the site.

Then in the second stage once karma started getting more "serious" (preventing users from posting/commenting and being used as an "authenticity" check- what led to farmed and sold accounts) which led to a further breakdown of the karma system.

The underlying issue is despite being an absolutely useless measure in reality- the site itself ascribed value to them and caused people with (what we'd probably refer to as bad) economic incentives to act on that behavior then rationally acted.

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lemm.ee

Would it be possible to have consistent karma on Lemmy? With instances being able to defederate from one another I thought that would be impossible unless there was some centralized karma counter.

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I get a total vote count for my comments and posts up and down its not made into one big scoreboard but its definatly something i can see.

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You would see the karma count according to your own instance. Different instances might then disagree about the exact karma count but your own instance should have the right number.

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noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

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lemmy.ml

He's waiting for one of the admins to commit suicide before he shows up and claims credit

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That people can make Android apps for it without caring about absurd API prices.

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yeehawreply
lemmy.ca

Until some megacorp decides to start flooding it with AI shit like reddit, then we're fucked.

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Any instance worth its salt would ban them. Absolute worst case scenarios, we would still have whitelisted instances or you could make your own.

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It's a small community, which is rare on the internet these days.

Its noncommercial, which is almost completely unheard of on the internet these days.

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lemmy.world

Engagement.

Users tend to like or dislike your comments and posts more, and post comments and reply back more often.

Compared to the millions of users on Reddit, I get more interaction on lemmy.

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infosec.pub

It's the small world effect. Federation works better for our tribal human brains. We aren't designed to be in a room with a million people all talking at once.

At first, the redundancy of having multiple communities on different instances covering the same topics bugged me, but it's actually a good thing because it means you're grouped into smaller groups of humans and your voice will get heard. Rather than a few comments dominating the conversation, there are simply more conversations.

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At first, the redundancy of having multiple communities on different instances covering the same topics bugged me, but it's actually a good thing because it means you're grouped into smaller groups of humans and your voice will get heard. Rather than a few comments dominating the conversation, there are simply more conversations.

I like that take.
Except when i am subscribed to multiple similar communities so i can hear those voices. Then something happens, and i see multiple reposts of the same thing by multiple users over multiple communities.
I dont know what the middleground is.
But maybe reframing towards the "smaller voices get heard" and learning to accept "the occasional shouts as an unfortunate downside to an overall better scenario" will help me.

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Absolutely, I get replies on almost all of my comments and usually multiple. The engagement is really great.

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lemmy.world

I can be on here a LOT less than other apps and not feel like I'm addicted. I jump on to post a couple of things and scroll for a few minutes and I feel like I'm good for the day.

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lemmy.world

yeah that's probably because there's not very much content here. which I admit is good because lack of content equals reduced addiction.

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I think it's also the fact that there's not any algorithm that's literally built to keep you doom scrolling.

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Being able to check stuff once or twice a day without feeling like im missing out is nice. There are enough algorithms that i can get a slice of lemmy-life.
And there are enough algorithms to almost support my doomscrolling on a bad day

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lemmy.max-p.me

I host my own and practically nobody can take it away from me. If I want to switch to Sublinks I can. I can swap the UI if I hate the default one. And it will never have ads or data collection.

It's a completely open platform. I can make my own algorithm. I can fork it. I can make a compatible server from scratch if I want to. It's ours, it's everyone's.

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hankereply
feddit.nu

It being a completely open platform means there will definitively be data collection. Some entity will scrape the fediverse for data. It's free, open and unprotected.

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Yeah but at least it is data that I explicitly decided to share publicly (including votes and subscriptions, because well, that's how ActivityPub works).

I meant more like, track your IP to give you local ads, analyze your browser cursor behaviour, visit frequency, how long I stay in a thread, etc. All things the official Reddit site and apps do (and probably a big factor as to why they shut down third party apps).

To be fair self hosting Lemmy is doing the opposite of protecting my privacy since my real identity has to be tied to my domain and server providers and my credit card. But at least I'm somewhat in control of the exact information my server distributes on my behalf.

And it's that hidden metadata that's super valuable because it's much more detailed.

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lemmy.today

Feels like the earlier days of interesting reddit.

I have no doubts bots/hostile actors will find some way to fuck things up. Hopefully the devs can finish up tools to keep those problem actors at bay.

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I feel instance admins/owners are in tune with the community to deal with the bad actors.
Instead of reddits "line goes up" mentality

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lemmy.one

I've just had a ton of really friendly and amusing interactions with people here, that's my favorite thing. Not sure what feature Lemmy has that makes that happen though.

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Not sure what feature Lemmy has that makes that happen though.

It's open and small. It takes a certain type of person for that to be appealing so despite our differences there is some quality we share.

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I guess the best way that I'd word it is, Lemmy (and the Fediverse at whole) is run by people - not a for-profit company.

Also, having decent mobile apps again is very nice.

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Nicer, kinder and less judgemental people.

I've had some controversial opinions here but the conversation is always civilized. It's like people are aware that not everyone is from one culture and are willing to give people the benefit of thr doubt and not judge the language of the text. Noone is judging tone.

But even more importantly I love seeing the same people around on different communities. Kolanak, cheese greater, call me lenni, picard maneuver, blaze are all names off the top of my mind that I see everywhere. It's like a small community.

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I have to say that is mostly the case. Yes, there will always be that one individual that gets offended at your different opinion, but that's just the way of the world.

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lemmy.world

I was scrolling down to see if anyone said this, since it's been the case for me so far. I have to say lately I've seen a raise in unfriendliness (not referring towards me, but in general), but I suppose it's inevitable.

I'm still really happy with how people interact with me and with each other, and I haven't felt that on Reddit for a while (am referring to both pre APIcalypse and after, though I now visit Reddit rarely)

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Ive seen a little too but reddit and all other social media is just soooo much worse that a few situations weren't enough to sway my opinion on the matter.

Reddit was honestly not the worst interaction wise for me pre APIcalypse, font have any account on there anymore. Also was never an active user on reddit tbf.

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lemmy.world

Greater degree of healthy dialogue. People disagree on here, but they'll more often talk it out and try to come to an understanding of some sort. Generally more curious and/or interested people and less vague shitposting.

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that's what I liked about reddit originally, and I feel like its much stronger here. especially since this is such a small community, basically every one of my comments (aside from ones on shitposts and the like) gets at least one solid response

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Totally agree. One of the really cool things I've seen on here is people acknowledge being wrong instead of being cranky shites about it.

Not only is it OK to be wrong but it's absolutely brilliant to acknowledge it.

Love the quality of discussion here.

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Its federation. Even to that point, than I can reply to you when not using Lemmy at all. I am writing this from /kbin.

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Yea the real question should be "what's your favourite thing about the Fediverse?". Lemmy is just what some people use to access the Fediverse. Kinda like asking "what's your favourite thing about Firefox" when really you mean the Internet.

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lemmy.world

More authentic posts, and much nicer interaction between people

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lemm.ee

Fuck everything and everyone. I hope we can agree on this one.

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lemmy.world

I'm curious, do you use this on mobile or are you talking about a desktop experience?

Personally I find more ads on something like Sync on mobile than I did on Reddit which I can block, but I am now forced to use the Reddit desktop site.

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Yeu, sync has ads because the developers of sync put ads into it.
Vanilla lemmy and jerboa certainly dont.
I can imagine some instance admins considering forking lemmy and putting in ads. At the moment, most instances are run as a hobby (for free) or by contributions (ie donations from members).
The development of lemmy was funded by a VC-type thing for a while, not sure if its still active. Otherwise, its also developed thanksnto contributions

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Cheers.

Sync didn't use ro have ads (or maybe I was blocking them successfully) but now it does. So will try something else as fuck ads.

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I grew up on the internet of the 90's and 00's. Lemmy is a far cry from that, but it's more like the original internet than reddit or facebook. So here I am. I miss the small, interest driven internet holes you and they're here more than on any other platform.

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please do not bring over reddit memes. Eventually someone will not understand the irony and keep doing it for real. thanks

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I'm still surprised by how genuine people seem to be. Sometimes someone comments or messages me and my expectation is sarcasm, judgement, or general shittiness; so I'm unsure how to reply. I think I've responded negatively sometimes just because i was reflexively defensive.

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It's free, no ads, and cool communities.

I think the only thing missing is creepy pastas

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lemmy.sdf.org

It's both a cool concept and an actual functioning community. For now, it also feels a bit like the rubes haven't found it.

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I couldn't agree more. While the platform is vastly different, the people and the various niche communities are more similar to how I used IRC 25 years ago.

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lemmy.world

Unlike what seems like many, I kind of like not having so many people here. It means there’s a good chance comments and posts will be seen by others. Reddit was/is so populated that posting anything there was like speaking into a gaping void (of hatred, many bad -isms, and occasionally friendly helpful folks).

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yeehawreply
lemmy.ca

It's kinda like the ham radio of the internet. I think. I've never used a ham radio, but it's what I imagine it would be like. Lol

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Due to having less content on Lemmy, your questions have a better chance of getting a reply even if the person can't answer the question, they usually show support in your efforts of finding the answer.

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metaStaticreply
kbin.social

come on down to lemmy town everyone.

at least we're not reddit.

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Working in the caddyshack. I use that all the time which makes me think you're genX too. I think maybe the fediverse skews older because we've learned from our mistakes with prior social media.

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I love being finished doomscrolling after 15 or 20 minutes not because I hate myself, but because I ran out of fresh content for the day.

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lemmy.world

Best for me is the ability to post images directly from the app / site rather than all that imgur rigmarole.

No gaming of the stats, and no arcane rejection of you comment because it didn't meet some arbitrary rules are also positives.

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lemm.ee

oh, you can do that? I tried posting a photo earlier but couldn't get it to work

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khanniereply
lemmy.world

This may be wrong but I believe there's a fairly low file size limit so that may be it. PNG files tend to be larger for example.

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Just upload it from your device, and done. This is one of my favorite features.

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Yea, as some people have said, the fediverse and the threadiverse feel much more organic.

Also, no tracking by shady companies is a big selling point

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You can get the original size of the image inside lemmy by clicking on the preview, no need to see the full post

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We're well established enough that we have stereotypes about different communities... it's amusing.

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The idiots have not yet found the platform, so I can enjoy more interesting discussions.

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The super dumb memes. I love that I can post a something that's stupid even for a shitpost here and get cheered for it.

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lemmy.ml

Dude I have looked through your "Overview" you are not a socialist, a social democrat at best.

Also there is no real and practical difrence between Socialist and Communist, there are some very fun nit-picky definitions, but generally they are interchangeable.

Also few quick tests. Thoughts on Isn'treal Thoughts on the USSR Thoughts on the GDR Thoughts on the PRC Thoughts on Cuba Thoughts on Biden

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lemmy.ml

First Interesting topic to not answer a single question I asked you.

Um lets start here, "As a Socialist ... the only arguments I get in are with Communists and Anarchists" You split up the idea of Socialist and Communist, There that is for all practical purposes a Distinction without a difference, Redflag number 1.

Second your entire threat on Lemmygrad's Shit Reactionaries say, first with a passionate defence of Biden , because a 2 party system, There is no diffrence between the parties, and generaly Socialists do not Endorse Biden, as he is a war criminal genocidal manach who does not care for the worker. Also all the benifits you listed, he is not doing- When someone tried to explain to you how it was rediculous you mocked them with a "call biden and demand things" and when someone else tried to explain you asked for a "Realistic solution" no understanding of what is being said.- In another explination, you said you could not read a post of that size and they only wanted to mock you, then when a shorter version was given you blocked them for being mean

You have quite a few posts on trump being Uniquly bad, he is not as I said before he is not significantly worse than Biden or really any other polition.

Lots of mentioning of voting like it changes anything

You have a post saying "as a socialist american I am jellious" when talking about healthcare, with the previously mentioned I think your understanding of socialism is that its healthcare, agian You would be better discribed as a Social Democrat

From this point I could for most of these look past them, or say its because you are new and need to learn, except with the second point you refuse to learn. By this point I am only a week back on your comments, and I look at the mod log

If we look at the modlog you have been banned from a comunity for saying that both sides of the Isn'treal genocide campan are bad and palistine is doing this for revenge, without any sort of historical understanding of the conflict

Called the Ukrane Russia conflict a holly war, I mean, one side is fighting to stop imperal expantion on its boarder (Russia) and the other is mostly Nazis who are doing a genocide (Ukraine)

Calling the PRESIDENT OF CHINA Pooh, This is 1) racist and 2) the PRC is a socialist nation, you can disagree with them but like, not be a total racist

And this is how I am concluding you are not a Socialist, I am sorry if this is too long for you and you refuse to read it, I did only stop after 7 days.

Look at its heart I agree with Dr.Che, If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine. Not only by your words, and I assume actions though I do not know you in real life, not a socialist, by the Standards set by the good doctor, that I also use, you are not a comrade of mine

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Ahhh you followed me from the other comment to continue the argument after blocking someone. A true tankie. I understand now. I will be blocking you after this comment as well 😘

I didn’t realize those were questions. Punctuation, line breaks, and formatting is important. I didn’t know what “Isn’treal” was, but now I understand you mean “Israel,” you just don’t know how to spell it (that’s funny), and your autocorrect got it wrong.

Understanding that I don’t want the Republican Party in power to revert all of our progress back to the 1800s is not giving my support to Biden, it’s giving my vote to the only other viable party currently available in this shit show. He’s never had my primary vote. I preferred Bernie.

Skimming your complaints about me, I’ve come to realize you’ve taken quite a bit of my “overview” out of context, gotten several of my comments mixed up into other topics entirely, and made your mind up before you started.

Goodbye.

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Calling the PRESIDENT OF CHINA

I think you mean the dictator in charge of the dictatorship that is China.

the PRC is a socialist nation

Ha! It absolutely is not. It once was. Now there are far more socialist leaning countries in Europe.

I would bet money you've never stepped foot in the place and if you have you've never gotten to know a Chinese person well enough to learn the truth about the "socialist paradise" you've imagined up in your mind.

one side is fighting to stop imperal expantion on its boarder (Russia) and the other is mostly Nazis who are doing a genocide (Ukraine)

Are you talking about the dictator run, expansionist, imperialist invading side that did this in Chechnya and has committed a raft of well documented war crimes?

You really love those dictatorships. Go on off with your mad rantings.

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