YouTube is now fully blocking ad blockers around the world
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Where is YouTube ReVanced?
Not mentioned, on purpose 🤫
I think people are fully misunderstanding this comment
Oh I guess I could see the other side.
I meant we don't talk about revanced club
ReVanced is definitely worth mentioning, but I'm here to tell you that GrayJay is better.
GrayJay is a YouTube/Twitch/anything update away from breaking.
Lol so is ReVanced my dude
ReVanced doesn't use the YouTube app/website, it modifies the YouTube apk into a completely different thing. The only thing that can break ReVanced is server side changes from YouTube.
And does something make you think that Google isn't capable of doing exactly that?
They're updating server-side rules constantly. And EVERY app update is also accompanied by a server-side update, even if it's small.
Ah but there's the catch, ReVanced just depends on server side YouTube changes.
Meanwhile, GrayJay depends on app-side & server side YouTube, Twitch, etc etc.
Thank you so much for sharing Yattee and the guide.
For iOS I really like Vinegar.
Currently not working, but Firefox Focus is!
A fix for Vinegar is on the way.
Tangential question - what is stopping youtube from restricting access to their API for 3rd party apps like Reddit did?
SSSSSSHHHH
Remember people start logging out for these services. Any day they could decided to start terminating accounts if this whole anti Adblocking campaign doesn’t get subscriber numbers up
Sideload uYouPlusExtra on iOS
https://github.com/arichorn/uYouPlusExtra
You don’t have to use AltStore. I re-sign the IPA myself and install with Apple Configurator
If you don’t have a paid developer license yeah. But I do so I don’t have do deal with that.
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/youtube-anti-adblock-bypa/gbghmolkliahkeekflofoaiofibligjf could help as well.
Did you read what the addon is about? It's not an adblocker but is to be used in conjunction with one. All it does is circumventing the adblockerblocker. It specifically recommends being used together with uBlock.
Btw, I use FF with uBlock. But I am not everyone, so when I stumbled across this, I thought it might be helpful for some people.
And I found it ironic, that Googles own extension store contains an extension that circumvents the YouTube adblockerblocker.
Ya know, I've seen a lot of posts regarding Elon Musk spam in this community, and calls to "ban" them, yet every week we get gloom and doom posts like this when some new subset of the world starts seeing this shit. I'd really like to see a pinned message about the fix, which is...
If you visit YouTube and see the pop-up, the page isn't loading the video content, or it just seems to be acting strange, do the following:
I literally have no other installed add-ons for ad blocking, anymore. Only uBlock Origin. Any time I see the message or YouTube starts acting up, I just repeat those 7 steps above for any YouTube tab that was already open, and viola, the video plays. It has simplified so many issues for me and reduced the number of adblock extensions I need to run.
I definitely plan on donating this holiday season to their team, probably the biggest share of the pie between the FOSS apps I enjoy and appreciate. Should uBlock Origin ever fail, I'll just stop going to YouTube.
Intrusive and sneaky ads like the ones on YouTube should be heavily regulated if not illegal.
Edit: especially ads louder than the average content volume, repetitive jingles designed to get stuck in your head, billboards, and ads thrown in the middle of the video you’re watching
"Loud" is unfortunately hard to quantify. There's a lot of psychoacoustics that mean that the number of decidels really doesn't tell you what's loud and what's not.
This is a great demo of how sounds can appear extremely loud without actually being physically very loud: https://youtu.be/tONF9OSUOSw?t=7m16s
Anyway the point is that it's hard to make rules about this kind of thing, because sound is subjective and there are ways to circumvent any restrictions you make.
Here is an alternative Piped link(s):
LUFS
Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.
I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub.
Thought this would be Tom Scott. I was not disappointed.
Here is an alternative Piped link(s):
https://piped.video/tONF9OSUOSw?t=7m16s
Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.
I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub.
Sounds like you haven't watched a lot of free to air tv haha
I can honestly say, apart from seeing it on on the background when visiting parents or similar, that I haven't watched free to air TV in maybe 15 years. Been streaming or downloading all that time.
I hardly watch it either. Just found it funny all the complaints above could be applied to what free to air tv has been doing for decades.
Agree with you completely.
Yet they still get around it through sound mixing. Any regulations against using jingles or having ads interrupt what you're watching?
Free to air is heavily regulated in my country if it had a fraction of the fraudulent grifter ads Google would be shut down
Ads in those are also regulated in civilised countries.
Luckily all that is prosecutable by Ofcom here so it very rarely happens.
Googles ad platform is utterly full of fraudulent scams and grifters. Bring on regulations and HEAVY fines for Google making profit of fraud and crimes.
Ublock Origin on firefox still work for me no filter
It's pretty random whether you get the message or not. Some of my friends, including me, straight up cannot watch youtube on their website half of the time anymore, because it full blocks us. It's not just an annoying message, videos actually just don't play. But I only get it on some days. I think the message only pops up if you've been watching for more than like an hour straight. Then again, some of my friends have never seen the message. Who knows. Just more weird big tech server bullshit. Like how twitter's api works 15% of the time (for me).
Purge cache and refresh does the trick if you have problems with the firefox+ublock combination. Or you have some other active extensions which prevents ublock from doing its thing.
Been watching for 3h straight and still no pop or problem with videos but when time eventually come I'll try to setup UBO filter or using 3rd party frontend
I'm daily using uBlock Origin (with Firefox) on Windows, and ReVanced on Android, and have experienced zero indications that Google is at war with ad blockers. These two are fucking fantastic and highly recommended. I don't expect it to last forever, but bravo to these devs and contributors.
A bit unrelated, but do you know if there is a hardened firefox for linux (just like Mull for Android)?
LibreWolf is a hardened Firefox also available on Linux.
I use a betterfox userscript for hardening Linux Firefox
Will look into it, thanks!
Firefox with Adblocker Ultimate working fine for me as of last night. I'll check again tonight.
They blocked me with that combo on my PC a week ago.
Librewolf is one that might work for you
It isn't blocking my uBlock Origin on Firefox.
Yeah, all Google accomplished with this bullshit was finally getting me to switch from Chrome to Firefox as my main browser on desktop.
Pretty much, also encouraged me to download uBlock, and now I see how many items it blocks from pages like YouTube. Spoiler: It’s a lot.
Right?
I have two tabs open...one is a site that is overtly and actively promoting products to me, with literal links to retailers where I can buy the stuff they're promoting...the other is YouTube.
The promotional site's uBlock counter is at 4.
YouTube's is at...139.
Leave that YouTube tab open open for a day and see how many thousands of items uBlock has blocked.
It does on mine, sometimes, so I clear cache, update uBlock, restart Firefox. In general it blocks them again
Or mine on Vivaldi. It was showing me the notice the other week, but seems to have stopped now. Either they are now time limiting youtube before the ad blocking thing comes back, or uBlock upped the ante.
Your uBlock probably updated. uBlock has pretty much been able to successfully block YouTube's adblocker block since YouTube started blocking adblockers, so long as you kept the filters updated.
Never seen that banner or an ad. I guess it's just a matter of time though 😕
uBlock Origin is reliably blocking the blocker blocker for me at this time, though a few popups got through a couple weeks ago.
Same, uBlock in Firefox is doing it 100% for me. Haven't even seen a youtube ad or a complaint that I should stop blocking ads.
Well if you are using Firefox, you obviously life the easy life. But what about the Edge or Chrome users here? Habe some respect for those poor guys.
They suffer voluntarily simply by choosing not to switch their browsers to non-chromium.
Yeah, that suffering is self inflicted if we’re talking about home users. In an enterprise environment you might need to convince your admin to add Firefox to the company portal.
I don't. Most of them have the ability to use something else and have chosen not to.
Same, it's a cat and mouse battle .. lol
Yo dawg, I heard you like blockers
Brave is dropping the ball. It's the only mobile option.
I use Firefox with uBlock Origin on Android. Isn't there the same for iOS?
iOS web browsers are forced to use the safari/WebKit engine, so you don’t get Firefox extensions, sadly.
The main benefits of using Firefox on iOS is if you prefer it’s interface or want to sync with desktop Firefox (which is why I use it).
Hyperweb might work though.
Brave for iOS (sorry firefox gang I appreciate you guys) is working fine for me. I had some issues with both Firefox/uB and Brave on windows getting the pop-ups.
I got the pop up a couple of times until I manually updated uBlock's filters list. After that, no issues.
No, they most certainly are not.
Shhhhh. Don't tell anyone the way.
Be brave, tell everyone
I get there's a heap of people on here who've somehow never seen these new anti-popup measures before, but they're definitely becoming more prevalent.
I switched to uBlock and purged the caches and it seems to have fixed the issue (for now anyway)
At some point I'll have to find a more permanent solution like switching browsers but right now things are working
a more permanent solution would be using an alternative front end like piped. there are a lot of public instances available
wait what? piped doesn't use your login in any way tho? you manually import subscriptions from Google checkout and you create a piped specific login for syncing that across devices. at no point will piped ever ask for your Google account
Use clients such as LibreTube. It works great and even allows skipping sponsored content.
Do this daily.
I only had to do it once. Haven't seen the pop up since.
No. There are dozens of us! Dozens!
never seen the youtube anti-adblock stuff.
Mullvad vpn + mullvad browser + ublock origin + never logging into google....
Also freetube, also newpipe...
Maybe they don't bother trying to block vpn users?
I use a VPN, and I saw the popup.
from what I've read incognito mode is still unaffected, but thats just rumors online
If you have a VPN just set your location to a place they don’t run ads
I saw them, then I purged ublocks cache and updated and they have been gone ever since (also on firefox, because I switched as soon as I read the news that they would pull this stunt on all chromium browsers a year ago).
No change for me, youtube sure is trying but ublock origin keeps fighting the good fight
Firefox + uBlock Origin here still holding strong.
I'd rather not personally. I can just disable all that anyway.
Yeah its fair enough, but it's easier to just use FF for me, I don't care if they want some anonymous usage statistics and trying to be fully private online is a fools errand. Base FF is good enough imo.
I'm also on Librewolf, but most people are not all that tech-savvy, so basic Firefox is better for them just because it has auto-update.
It’s also not that difficult to configure hardened Firefox. It takes a minute or two and there are plenty of written and video guides that’ll have even the least tech savvy people up and running quickly. The tech literacy required to reasonably protect your privacy isn’t very high anymore. The biggest hurdle is getting people to care about their privacy in the first place.
Librewolf is a wonderful project but not something I recommend very often in my personal life, if only because most people just don’t need or want that level of protection at the expense of convenience.
You can also use the Firefox profile maker which is basically lets you create a new Firefox profile with the features and hardening you want. The website: https://ffprofile.com/
I still haven't run into any issues with this setup.
Nooo. YouTube thinks it's fully blocking ad blockers. In reality nothing's changed.
Yeah yt-dlp has been my strat this whole time anyway. Also Piped and Invidious get the job done when i'm too lazy to type in one short command for every video I watch.
Also, specifying format with yt-dlp is unnecessary ("-f 22") if you have ffmpeg installed iirc because it automatically selects the highest quality, thus shortening the command even further.
Higher resolution videos actually have better bitrates on youtube. Like if you select 4k even if your monitor is just 1080p, the video will look much better.
The video stutters for me if I do that
All the more reason just to use yt-dlp. I know it takes a tiny bit of time to set up, but it's well worth it. I'm able to download 20-minute videos that would have otherwise buffered in less than a minute. I can simultaneously queue up a bunch of videos, and watch them with zero stuttering.
You can also put "alias y=yt-dlp" in your ~/.bashrc to minimize it to "y". Or set up a keyboard shortcut to a script that executes the command with your clipboard content.
Or do the same with "mpv" instead of "yt-dlp" to watch the video stream directly without downloading.
EU based Firefox + uBlock Origin user here. All very good :)
Did someone forget to purge their uBlock caches?
Exactly. Takes five seconds.
I'm not having YT problems but have never done this.
Could someone explain how?
Open the uBlock Dashboard, then in the Filter Lists tab click the Purge All Caches button (then the Update now button)
For quicker syncing, you can:
Open uBlock Settings -> click Filter Lists tab -> type "quick" into search box -> click clock icon for "uBlock filters – Quick fixes" -> click "Update Now" button up top
That will only clear the cache for the fixes that actually counter the youtube countermeasures. Helpful if it takes a long time to download and refresh when all of the caches are invalidated.
No problems here whatsoever, I don't know what everybody is talking about. Remember to donate some bucks to your favorite open source adblock (or piping app), thank you.
This was annoying me in browsers so i did a bit of reading and found out that not only can I remove their ad block blocker in browser, but my TVs also support ad free YouTube. Thanks Google! Couldn't have done it without you.
Can you point me to ad free tv please
SmartTube (formerly SmartTubeNext).
Any idea is there anything similar available on LG webOS?
Maybe YouTube WebOS ? It has adblock and sponsorblock supports as well. It can be installed from webos homebrew channel. Check https://www.webosbrew.org/ to get started.
This TV app is the best ! I love it !
I guess you're thinking of SmartTube, formerly known as SmartTubeNext?
Do you have a LG TV? If not I can't help you
I do, and I'd like a push in the right direction.
I got you chief: https://github.com/webosbrew/dev-manager-desktop
Cheers, will have to check this out when I get home.
No worries, happy to help troubleshoot if you need anything
I do! Whats the process?
See my other comment in this chain!
UK Firefox user here.... All good
It made an attempt for sure, a cute one at that 🤣
I was just using Chrome with ublock origin at work and didn't see jack shit.
**as best as they can
was patchy 2 weeks ago but havnt had an issue in over a week now. we are winning so far
... yes. I know because you've told me 25 times in the last week.
And I've been using only newpipe and freetube since this all started. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
ReVanced still works fine, grayjay also works.
Grayjay has been really nice! Enjoying it so far.
Same. A couple little bugs but overall a great concept, hopefully more future proof than the Vanced apps
Nope. FF with UBO still works perfectly.
The ReVanced app still works just fine.
This will definetly be a shot in the foot for Google, the beginning of YouTube's downfall
Only cloud hosting providers can provide hosting for themselves as cheaply as google. Microsoft and Amazon (except through prime video and twitch) have shown no interest in entering the fray. The downfall will only come through antitrust.
Federation will be the only real option considering the massive storage and bandwidth requirements. Even then, once an instance starts to grow, they'll have to come up with some type of monetization strategy.
Even a low population instance will likely need many terabytes of storage.
I don't see how federation makes economic sense for video serving/hosting. To do it economicaly you need to have local data centers with peering agreements with local ISPs and good deals for transit. Only big data companies (Google) and huge or specialized self hosts(daily motion, Facebook), can really do it.
Reddit and Vimeo were stupid for hosting video on cloud services for that reason. Reddit wouldn't have been in such an economic crunch if they weren't burning money by serving video on the cloud.
I suspect in the long run it will be doable due to advancements in bandwidth, computing power, disk space and compression efficiency but it's probably more than a decade away.
And even then it might be the case that it's only viable to do 1080p while the big guns can do 8k at 120fps.
Finally some fucking space for competitors
Please yes, it needs a lot of better.
The downfall of YouTube is creators being paid more for their work?
They don't. In fact they get demonitised more and more easily for completely bullshit reasons. The majority of youtubers get paid through Patreon and in video sponsorship rather than from youtube itself.
Yes, these companies work exactly like that
That is exactly how YouTube works: https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/72902?hl=en
Firefox nightly working lime a charm. I would rather download any video I want to see than using the shitty native app.
Three one minute adds was enough for me.
Me still haven't seen that shit, but my cousin does. Weird
Same, but I think it has to do with uBlock Origin updating. Nothing on my PC but saw it on a laptop.
A quick cookie purge and updating uBO and it was solved.
I’m self hosting an invidious instance and not once have I noticed any interruptions. 10/10 just use a public invidious instance and be done with it
I have not changed anything about my browsing habits and I spend like 12 hours a day on YT, haven't yet seen this. Not very universal.
3 similar but different questions:
PC (ubuntu) and Android both w/ FF & uB. Have yet to see this in Canada.
But it does typically take Google a little while to remember that we're part of the world..
Pc, usa, chrome
My phone, my partner's phone, home pc, my partner's home pc, work pc, laptop, tv. Canada.
Nerds rejoice, we will never be defeated
still using revanced on android and it's fine
My original install of Vanced is still working!
why the fuck do they call it that it makes no sense and I can never remember what its name is
if you downvote this you're a pussy
AdVANCED YouTube with the ad(vertisments) removed
I think the name is stupid too but I downvoted your comment because I'm clearly a pussy
And I just followed instructions on this page
https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uAssets/issues/19976
And it fixed it
Grayjay is the best all in all app for Android and Invidious Cross Platform. It syncs everything.
Definitely not blocking here.. but.. I have to ask. Which takes precedence, YouTube's T&C's or EU law?
Love the Ficsit mug in the photo 😆
Google chrome U block user here. Still works fine
Until yesterday I was blocked from youtube, despite using UBO. Today it works. I don't know if it is random or if UBO does something. Possibly it will stop working again. In any case I started using piped (hope they don't decide to do something with it).
I just use the Vivaldi Browser and watch all my YouTube in browser. shrug
It has? 🤔
there was an attempt
I only use Firefox for youtube and nothing else... it still just works the same as ever - the only ads I see are the ones the creators make themselves for sponsors. I only use Chromium-based browsers for anything that has nothing to do with google...
Not on my PC
I’ll just use an ad blocker-blocker
That is what google uses, after all they attempt to block your adblocker. You would need an ad blocker-blocker-blocker.
I haven't seen an ad on YouTube in several years. Doubt I'll ever see one.
Haven't seen an anti-adblock message yet, and I block ads in all sorts of ways across my devices.
No issues with revanced
Monopolistic and some shit
The entire internet nowadays is either monopolized or close to it. I miss the days of many servers hosting indie websites, as opposed to one or two companies per niche.
I'd never heard of the latter two. Thank you!
How do we know WireMin is trustworthy?
No they don't.
lol, good luck with that Google
I got fed up with this shit and invested a bit of time into getting a working Premium Family plan through a cheap country (Ukraine is about $4 per month). I invited my whole family (parents included) so essentially 6 people have an ad-free YouTube now for less than $1 each (per month). I assume that's still less than what they have gotten by serving us a shit ton of ads. And I am rid of that cat and mouse game for a while.
How would I go about doing the same?
As others said: VPN. Ukraine seems to work good currently, since the Credit Card address isn't validated. Cheaper countries like India or Turkey now check if the CC you use is from that country. That is a bit more complicated to pull off, so that wasn't worth it for me.
I guess they made an account via VPN?
VPN to the country of your choice, then hit the sign up page for the service your interested in.
Love how Lemmy downvotes anyone who pays for anything. Such a great place for discussion! Definitely no echo chamber here.
Should we start legitimizing garbage?
If you consider YouTube as garbage, then it would be a no-brainer to just stop using it, instead of complaining about ads, right? And no, I couldn't care less. I use YT maybe twice per year. It could go offline tomorros, as far as I am concerned.
Apparently everything in your world is black or white
Simple coherence.
Having a discussion about paying for things isn't garbage. You're just poor and salty.
Lol
Go back to your broken Linux and PeerTube lmao
For the service they offer (the hosting basically) I am actually willing to pay quite a bit. But what they typically ask for (about €15 for a single account) that's just not worth it, given that YouTube isn't the producer of the content they serve. Music might be a bit more complicated thanks to the fucking idiotic way how licensing around that works. Anyway: nothing of that excuses the excessive use of ads they serve nowadays.
Peertube.
Try creating an account on another instance, because fediverse?
Well uh... Whatever they're doing ain't working for me, because I'm yet to see one of these popups.
Let the blocking war commence. Beligerents are referred to as Blockheads.
merde ._.
Scheisse
govna
Switched to FreeTube. Problem solved.
Question. Wouldn't the catch-all solution for YT is to pair the AJAX calls for the video with a "view video key", and that key to be found out after running a deeply obviouscated javascript served with the html of the "view video" page?
They could even bundle some of the key-building-js with the ad being served.
At some point in order to "block the ad" , the ad blocker would have to run or analyze tons of JS code , making the ordeal to difficult to compute.
My guess is they can't afford the complication on the server side.
They could probably force the ad to be decoded by asking the client for proof. They couldn't prove that it was actually shown to the user though.
What I don't understand is why they don't block downloading the video during the period where an ad is supposed to be playing.
I think that is actually what they've already been doing for at least a decade?
Whenever you download a youtube video using something other than a js-enabled browser, then I think something like yt-dlp's jsinterp.py needs to evaluate some javascript to extract the key.
Good try Youtube 👍🏼
not blocking ads, scripts. ctrl-shift-c
Vanilla Brave blocks ads and doesn't show the blocker. Ublock & Better YouTube will cause it to trigger. Tampermonkey script prevents the blocker from appearing after disabling/enabling Ublock for a video or two.
Fuck YouTube and Google. They make enough money selling my data.
Edit: Okay I get it guys, Brave bad
Ublock doesn't trigger it. Better YouTube does. Remove it and you're golden.
Brave is commercial grade malware. How anyone can willingly install that on their system and then complain about google selling data is beyond me. At this point, Firefox is without alternatives.
Explain?
Where to start...
https://www.spacebar.news/p/stop-using-brave-browser
The article is not neutral in its phrasing, but the content is correct. You'll find other sources if you look around.
Just brainwashed Mozilla shills spreading FUD. Nothing unusual.
Ublock was triggering mine, odd that it doesn't trigger for others
or at least they try to :P
Weird. Mine works just fine on YouTube.
For non-Premium users.
Google is keeping their services free for long enough, so people start believing it's supposed to be like that. At the same moment they keep paying for their music streaming, cloud storage and the rest...
It's not free. They take your data while alsp giving you ads. A quick Google suggests they have about 280 billion in annual revenue. Which part of that is free?
This data is translated into money through the ads, and people are trying to block it aggressively. Which part of that is not free?
280 it's not from YouTube, but the entire corp, right?
Also revenue is not the profit. The cost for maintaining video streaming is enormous, especially if this size. Only traffic itself can easily eat half of YouTube's revenue.
PS Don't get me wrong, I think Google is a typical corp with no feelings. But I'm surprised how people not complain about Spotify, Tidal, DropBox, etc...
Nope. Non-premium here, and my ublock still works perfectly fine.
I guess that's why the modded YouTube app on my webOS TV stopped working today.
Can't say I've seen anything yet, just hope my ad-blocker holds steady
'tis?
👀 I see that Satisfactory coffee cup
Incognito mode is your friend. On Firefox anyway.
No, it doesn't. I have neither seen a block, nor have I seen ads. Is that a Windows-only problem then?
Google is such a douchy company now.
I installed an invidious extension on firefox that auto redirects all youtube links. I recommend it.
Libredirect + Piped server = better youtube than youtube ever was.
Use http://grayjay.app
EDIT: I'm fascinated by the childishness of those who are complaining about the $10. Not only you don't have to pay it, and not only that it's open source, and not only the intentions are clear on why it's not a permissive license made to fight filling average Joe with malware like always being done with NewPipe and others on Play Store, but also you can pick your poison. Would you like google to win this dumb war on ad blockers? Or would you like to support non-perfect people making FOSS apps for your benefit? I really don't get you, guys. Pick your battles! Take the win and shut up for once!
A lot of people here hate brave but so far I’ve been able to block YouTube ads with brave with no issue whatsoever.
Meanwhile here I am with a YouTube premium account that they don't charge me for
Back when YouTube red/premium came out. I was big into vulnerability/pen testing, and I used several scripts and spoofing techniques to try to get it for free. I failed and failed and failed. But then after I had given up. I decided to just watch some YouTube videos, and realized it said I had premium. And then I checked on the YouTube app, I had premium there too.
Years and years have gone by. I still have YouTube red/premium for free. They have never charged me. And I even had support transfer the YouTube red/premium to a new email at one point. Not ONE question. It says active and a price. But, I'm never charged. And the card that is on file, isn't even active anymore and hasn't been for about 2 years.
My theory is, one or several of my attempts combined with each other to get it for free. Glitched their system somehow or straight up allowed me to have it for free. But in terms of what I did. Whatever I did, I did everything again recently for my boyfriend, all the failed methods, everything again like I did for me. In the same exact order. Same error messages, same failed connection messages, same everything I went through. Didn't have hope for him, but. He goes on YouTube later that night, and has premium.
If the platform wasn't starting to die before...
Youtube wont die anytime soon
Also in Europe.
Oh look! This shit again. Lemmy is becoming more repetitive than 4chan
See you again next week, fren.
I'm willing to engage this discussion with you :).
I don't believe i'm entitled to any labor for free, but i do oppose the mechanic of huge corporations starting with good & free services, and when they then become a monopoly, suddenly i'm "entitled and want labor for free and an idiot" when i don't agree with all the enshittification, money grabbing, privacy violations, and everything else they think they can get away with.
If you start a service with a certain premise (it being free, little ads, ...), and then once you're a monopoly and want some extra money start changing all that, while making sure any competition has as little chance as possible to challenge you... yeah, good luck with that XD.
And i'll make a predition, give it 5 years at most before game passes go through this phase. Currently all the gamers are "wow, these are such good value", once it gives the publishers enough of an excuse to stop allowing you to buy them, watch the same fragmentation & raised prices, enshittification, possibly even advertising getting added to it once you're stuck using such a system.
I don't believe i'm "entitled", but i won't support such tactics & monopoly abuse. They came to power by pretending to be a free site to share videos on, and they'll die that way as far as i'm concerned. Good riddance.
Thank you for calling this aspect out. I'm surprised so many people are overlooking it. I protest YouTube for the same reasons, but I've got one more to add.
When they merged Google Music into YouTube, the service became worse. I'd often have music streaming throughout the day over my speakers, but that broke after the merge.
Anytime I watched a video on my phone that had Content ID-recognized music in it (even in the background), they would cut the stream to my speakers because I am only allowed one stream with any music in it at all.
This isn't the behavior when you use the ad supported service. Only the paid.
Not to mention all the proper features of Google Music that didn't carry forward.
It's mostly that the multi billion dollar profit organisation didn't need to do this. Where does that money go? Even though it's over the back of the labour and time of both the content creators and people watching.
Google is doing 60 billion dollar profit fine. Thanks. And not paying proper tax either, lol. It's pure extraction of labour value.
Get mad at that.
> try to do meme arrows
> fail
Jej
Su pasta es mi pasta, I'm using that from now on
If you do that you're stealing their labor
I sure am a rascal
You mean people shouldn't chase that sweet, sweet fake internet score?
I'll look forward to reading this yet again next week, alongside all the entitlement in the comments section that seem to think running YouTube is free and recommending trash alternatives which have less than 1% of YouTube's content and don't even work.
See you next week!
Not so sugary tits today huh? More like sour.
No problems using Firefox (as always)
Such as?
Sorry I meant to say: No problems using Firefox. :D