Stop bringing your phone in the shower: How steam can ruin 'waterproof' phones
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fortunately the Steam deck doesn't have that problem
I brong it in to doomscroll whilst pooping before i shower. So its already in the room with me. But never had an issue so far.
Why in the world would I bring the phone in the shower?
I do it all the time. Before smart phones were a thing I had a water proof shower radio. Now I use the phone for the same thing. Mostly listening to news or a podcast or something. Sometime it's a Nebula video, but in the shower I'd just be listening to it like a podcast anyway. Before phones were waterproof I used to use a waterproof Bluetooth speaker.
I've never had steam cause a problem, but then again my showers aren't long, aren't very hot and my phone is kept pretty high up and out of the way.
So, why... oh, forget it.
Everyone uses their phones while eating or pooping. Those activities don't take long either. I choose to listen to something while showering.
It's ok if you don't understand it or do it yourself, but some people take their phone into the shower. It is a thing.
I like to sometimes take a break from my phone while pooping and read a product label, like the olden times
Would recommend every now and then
Nah. I had to do that the other day and lemme tell you, shampoo bottles just don’t hit the same these days.
They do feature a lot of exotic words I don't understand
"Everyone" does not use their phone while eating or pooping. I make an effort to engage with mine as little as possible, in a perfect world checking it when I wake up when I get home and before bed. For me the phone is a weird mix of useful tool and addictive drug, almost impossible to drop entirely but very much worth limiting access to. Constant stimulation is certainly a choice you can make, but probably not a healthy one. I view what you're doing the same way you might view someone saying they always drink a beer in the shower.
This is some boomer shit
Saying boomer shit about someone having a different point of view is the most boomer of shits...
They're literally equating listening to a podcast from your phone in the shower with doing drugs/drinking beer.
That's a strange assumption here
We do??
Pooping takes forever 🥺 and please don't say fiber. There's no room left for more 💀
You can get a waterproof Bluetooth speaker pretty cheap. Better sound and zero risk of anything happening to the phone. I love mine.
To shave your butthole via camera
Like a few other commenters, I had never even thought that taking your phone into the shower was a thing until I saw this post.
Just... why? Why risk it? Your average smart phone is anywhere from $500 to over $1000, so what's so important that you're deliberately exposing it to water and the risk of dropping it (especially if you're using shampoo, conditioner, soap or any other bathroom product designed to act as a cleaning agent)? Surely whatever it is can wait however long it is you're showering for?
Personally, I wouldn't want a friend/relative/whatever phoning me or answering the phone if they were in the shower or using the bathroom.
I can understand one of the other comments about using it to listen to podcasts/music/videos/etc., and at least in that case the phone is presumably far enough away (and not being regularly accessed) that it's at lower risk. Fair enough -- I sometimes do that whilst washing dishes. Still, I think I'd struggle trying to listen to something whilst actively showering -- too much other noise.
Put a bluetooth speaker in the shower instead of your phone; it's not like you can work the screen with wet hands anyway.
SInce my speaker stopped working, I've taken to putting the phone in a plastic baggie hanging from the curtain rod between the curtains.
How dense is your shower curtain than you can't leave it outside the shower and still hear it??
The speaker on my Pixel 7 is plenty loud, but so is the water in the shower.
I also listen to podcasts, which are usually mixed quieter than music, and require more volume to pick up quieter consonants.
Get a little Bluetooth speaker. I keep my phone next to the speaker outside the shower, and I hear it fine.
I got a couple Amazon Echo Show 8s and hacked them with Lineage. It doesnt sound great but it at least has more body than my cell phone, so I can actually hear it. And I dont have to mess around with Bluetooth. And there's no battery.
You think hacking an Amazon Show with Lineage is less work than "messing around with Bluetooth"? You'll fit right in here.
Haha. I mean it takes like 15 min and then never had to mess with it again.
Just let them masturbate in peace will ya
Only if I can join ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Not the person you replied to but I can hear it just fine....but I would rather not hear music at all than to hear it muffled through a shower curtain and a waterfall.
Speaker's gotta be IN the shower or I'm singing my own songs
my phone is here for a good time, not a long time
Seriously, if it survives being attached to me for 2-3 years, a little occasional steam damage is not going to be its biggest concern
The shower is the one place where I can have some peace and switch off. No news, no noise, no immediate crises that need solving. Just listen to the running water, enjoy for a bit, feel a little bit more relaxed and clean afterwards. A phone would achieve the exact opposite.
A shower is 1/10 of a haircut on the meditative activities scale.
I buzz my head in the shower, does that mean I get 110% every time?
That sounds correct
I read my daily web fiction in the shower while I wake up. My iPhone 10 is still going strong after all these years of steam. Hell, it’s been dropped several times.
Yeah it’s a little weird, but we’ve all gotta cope in this world
I had a "waterproof" e reader that was sitting in the bathroom directly opposite the shower for a week, the battery got fucked up and the case popped off
Doesn't sound like that's related
That sounds directly related to the point of the article
The battery, unrelated to the humidity.
Meh. I started doing this with my iPod 10 ish years ago, continued it with an Android that had no IP rating, and still do it with an IP-rated flagship. Over daily showers all that time I have yet to drop or have one fail. I have also used them in the rain on occasion. If something happens I will consider a 1 in 3,000 occurence not bad.
Same. I like to listen to music or podcasts in the shower sometimes. I'm not standing in the water with my phone but sometimes it gets wet because I change sometime. I've never had an issue
Who the fuck pays 500 bucks for a phone? It's a fucking phone. You gotta make phone calls and get spied by Google and everything, that's all I see.
Exactly. This is how I find out people bring their phones into the shower.
It's fine, my screens need conditioner
In case you don't actually know anybody under the age of about 35, the next time you are riding a bus or are a passenger in a car, start watching other drivers and see how many of them literally cannot put their phones down. Like even if they aren't actually looking at them while they drive, which is like a solid 30% of all drivers, another significant chunk is holding the phone even when not in use. The shower is not even a high bar at this point.
Laughs in South Australia.
$592 + Victims of Crime levy = $700 fine if you're caught using your phone while driving or stopped at a intersection (inc. red light)
You're only allowed to use a phone mounted in a cradle for Audio calls and GPS navigation. (Uber, etc is a grey area)
Don't use your phone while driving. Just don't do it.
Wouldn't advise them to do that if they rent a car in Norway. The fine is about $1100 if they're caught, plus three points on the license.
We have fines and demerit points where I live, but they don't seem to be enforced often. Our cops are too busy...uh, I don't actually even know, but we sure pay them a lot (as an organization). Traffic enforcement seems to have gone down quite significantly in the past few years.
How else am I going to clean the phone after using it while I shit? That's dirty
Next you'll be telling me I should use a bidet instead of cleaning my ass with the shower wand.
Obviously you do what 99.99999999% of people do. Nothing. Never clean it. Ever. From the day you buy it. At most you wipe the screen with some water. Maybe windex.
Source: Repaired cell phones for years.
I would recommend sanitizing wipes for that. Alcohol, not chemical chlorox or whatever.
Alcohol wipes on my ass!?
That's gonna burn the shit out of my hemorrhoids, no thank you!
To listen to music. Have you never tried that? It's awesome.
Pretty sure they actually mean the bathroom, not the shower.
Came here to say just that. I'm a grown ass man, I just take me in the showed.
Why not? (The article says steam is a problem, so cold showers are alright)
Ummm...to read this post on Lemmy?
Also, I need a new phone - the steam has made my pixel 8 pro front camera all cloudy and my screen has started dying.
To be honest, that's a very expensive solution to feed what sounds like an internet addiction. I have a Pixel 8 Pro too, and it's still in as-new condition. I'll keep it till it breaks by itself
Cool. I'm very happy for you.
Of all addictions to have it could be worse. But it's actually the opposite. I love long warm showers - something about the water hitting my back whilst sitting on a stool that feels very relaxing. I have video essays going whilst I do that.
It's not about you I guess mate.
Plenty of people do it though.
The neat thing is you don't have to read everything that doesn't necessarily affect you.
Probably the same people who drink beer in their shower.
To occasionally check the time.
https://plumbprism.com/best-waterproof-clocks-for-the-shower/
Yeah but then that requires spending money and actually finding those products. Online shopping is not something I like to do.
Wait, are the ![email protected] people really posting from the shower?!
I don't think so, people have shower thoughts when they are away from phone
"They are showering us with their refined thoughts"
if you feel the need to bring your phone into the shower, you really need to take a hard look into your steamed up mirror
Can't see mirror due to steam so need to use the phone selfie cam ofc :>
I just got an LG Smart mirror, no steam!
It is most likely spying in you.
It tells me I'm the handsomest boy in the whole building except the guy in 3B. He drives a Porche.
I once met a hooker who said "I'll do anything for 50 dollars". I replied, "Paint my house."
I gave her a paint bucket and told her to start with the porch.
She came back about an hour later and said "All done!".
I said, "Wow, that was fast."
She said, "Yeah, I'm getting pretty good at this. Oh and by the way, that's not a porch, it's a Mercedes."
I brought a Steam Frame into the shower!
What do the data processing term say?
It's either a phone or a radio/speaker. Sometimes a portable CD player with aux cable.
But that isn't in the shower, it's in the bathroom.
I thought they meant the whole bathroom, since this was about steam. You can't even really use a wet (capacitive) touchscreen.
Why not a tape deck in the shower?
I didn't know people did that
same, i would think people put it in a ziplock bag with water abosrbent packs at the least.
WHO USES THEIR PHONE IN THE SHOWER
Phone is the new heroin. Haven't you heard?
Even with heroin they waited until after
You don't watch YouTube while scrubbing down with sudds??
Yes. YouTube.
Literally, i put on like a podcast or 10min science video or something to listen to while i shower. Gotta be dopamine maxing
Your username kills me. I literally just watch that episode yesterday 🤣🤣
Me.
Not often, because I like bathing and using phone is wasting your water relaxation time. But, I do use it sometimes when I want music or am in the middle of something and also need or want to take a shower or bath.
Phone reading in the bath is amazing.
To be clear, I also have always strived for completely waterproof cases.
Same people who use their phone in the car
Obsessed people
I will set some music, but I also don't have a humidity problem in my bathroom.
I've been doing this for around 10 years, have very hot, steamy showers and never had a problem 🤷
Started with the Samsung Galaxy S7, one of the earlier water resistant phones, and I've been doing it ever since, across maybe 5 phones, almost every day. You'll be fine. If you are worried about drops, just use a decent case.
As for why, others have said, it's to keep listening to my YouTube video essays and similar. Stuff that doesn't need to be seen to be appreciated.
So you only keep your phones 2 years, it's possible you simply don't have them long enough to accumulate a noticible amount of steam damage.
It has varied. I used to keep them 1-2 years when they used to improve a lot year-to-year. The last 2 phones I've had 3 years each.
After I'm done with it, I hand my phone over to my brother, who runs it into the ground over the course of the next 3 or so years, until it's almost unusably slow. My brother does the shower thing too, but less often. Maybe 30% of the time and less steamy.
It's possible that there could be gradual, over time damage. Rust growing until it forms a short. But that's not been my experience.
Ultimately, it's up to you if you want to take the risk, but given how I treated mine, if you even did this half as often as I did, you're probably fine.
I didn't mention this above, but I sometimes also used the phone inside the shower. Clicking the next video or checking a message notification. Maybe 1 in 8 days.
I've also sometimes washed the crud off the phone under the sink, rather than my normal approach with isopropyl alcohol. The worst I'd get is a notification saying I couldn't charge for a bit, or the speaker sounding funny for half an hour or so.
You might call me crazy, but I don't like to baby my stuff. I paid for water resistance, I'm going to make use of it.
I am the same way, and I didn’t know it would upset so many people lol. And it’s not a phone addiction thing either, I’m just having a comfy relaxing time in the shower and that may include having some entertainment.
You made me check and the phone I'm using now is 6 years old
Who the hell takes their phone into the shower?
Its where I make the most tips on onlyfans
Every day humanity finds a way to disappoint me a little more
Wanting to listen to music in the shower??? Could humanity get any lower? Disgusting
I do listen to music in the shower, lmao
I take my waterproof Bluetooth speaker inside the shower, and leave my phone in the other room
Even if I didn’t have a speaker, you don’t need to have your phone in the shower with you to be able to hear it
I have a marsboy, and it is on the sink, not in the shower. But then again, I also leave the door open and the exhaust on, so the mirror doesn't fog. But I honestly wouldn't take anything with a screen in there.
However, I did have a airpod fall out of my left ear and it dropped in the toilet. Due to its "sleek design" it took me a good five minutes to retrieve it. Kept it separated from activation and tried it out over a few hours. Surprisingly, it still works.
But it does remind me of a coworker who had an iPod Touch and bragged that he had found the perfect pocket: his breast pocket. That same day, he destroyed in when it fell in the toilet.
I cheered him up by sending him the IT Crowd episode where Moss did the same thing with his cell phone.
Lmao, I love the IT crowd
That’s a good point about leaving the door open, I leave it closed and steam my shit up (I do have the exhaust on tho, I’m not a maniac)
Yeah, disgusting that you need constant media and disgusting that you spend that much time in the shower.
It takes me about 20 minutes to shower, shave, brush my teeth, and dress, but in all fairness, I pick out my clothes before I go to bed.
I think it's pretty common to take a wank in the shower, but I suppose others use it for music or radios
Pretty common? I guess if you want clogged drains.
Why should it clog anything?
Dear lord, talk to a plumber. Ejaculate becomes more vicous when heat is applied. Your shower drain probably looks like the president's arteries. And it sticks to hair. You are going to have an embarrassing discussion with the plumber, buddy.
You're capping mate, it becomes a fluid after 15-30 minutes.
What? Are you ejaculating gas? Dude, that's a fart. Do it from the other direction, but don't do it in the shower.
People bring their phones into the shower?!
Always wild concept to me. People bringing their $1000 electronics into an environment not made for them. Like come on, how long are you in the shower, do you really need to be entertained while washing your body?
You can spend 1 millisecond away from your tsunami of AI sludge!?
Back before smartphones, when everyone was bleaching the tattletale to get the phone warrantied after getting even a little water near it, there was a rumor going around. Kids with friends in Japan were hearing that people over there had waterproof cellphones and would be talking while in the shower. We were super jealous, not for shower talking, but for the feature. I’d think ICP rated phones today should be able to handle some humidity.
There are Insane Clown Posse rated phones!? I need one of those because I keep killing mine because I spill Faygo on it.
I've done it before. Time-constrained, watching something interesting.
These days I'll shower with a resistant earbud in, listening to music. I shower early/late and don't want the music to wake my partner. (probably less likely than the shower itself, but that's how i roll)
That's where all the best ideas come from!
Can't give your wife any chance on reading texts of you hitting on other women.
Notthst I'm cheating with other women (seriously who can be bothered) my phone is locked with my fingerprint. As much as we share a lot in life I have not given her copies of my fingerprints so she couldn't unlock the phone anyway. In theory she knows the passcode but since she asks me for it every single time she needs to use my phone I'm recently confident she doesn't retain it.
My last partner and I had fingerprints on each other's devices just for convenience sake, mostly so that we can text on each other's behalf while the other was driving or in case of an emergency situation.
I would argue doing this right takes way more Trust than just keeping the boundaries up , and that I wouldn't prescribe it for most couples.
Who… da fuq… does this??
Nah hold on.
Manufacturers stole repairability and the headphone jack from us under the guise of waterproofing and now you make fun of people who use the feature?!?
If I had to give that shit up then I want the damn feature. Otherwise waterproof speakers exist and we never had to give up anything.
Taking away the headphone jack was more likely so they could try to make you buy $200 wireless headphones that need to be replaced every few years.
the one person who downvoted this loves corporate abuse and spending money on dumb shit.
Every few years? Brave of you to assume that after owning them for 6 months or so I haven't sent all of my wireless earbuds through the wash because I didn't feel them in the pocket when doing laundry.
Now I'm using over ear wireless headphones because I can't mistakenly wash a huge set of cans.
Side note: I can wash your mom's huge set of cans
Because said waterproofing was for accidental, rare incidents of exposure, such that you have enough time to yank it somewhere safe before water penetrated.
Waterproofing was never meant for intentional, repeated, or extended exposure to extreme environments. That’s what waterproof cases are for. You know, the kind that allow your phone to go intentionally into water.
Yea that's my whole argument. We lost very important things for some bullshit.
Should be an option, not mandatory.
Offering options costs a lot more.
Yea I don't care.
We make excuses thousands of times a year for every shit ass corporation.
Fuck em. Figure it out and stop delivering FOMO dogshit to people.
Repairability is more important than some adult childs inability to hang on to an item or make the correct decision to buy waterproof said item.
I listen to The Daily podcast or audiobooks. The phone goes into a little 3D printed holder to keep it dry and redirect the sound. I’ve done this for years with multiple phones, never any issues.
Even though modern iPhones are “waterproof” I like to keep it as dry as possible. The touchscreen stops working reliably if it gets wet, and the speakers can get blocked by water droplets and reduces the volume.
It’s also worth noting that living in the PNW requires using the bathroom fan to keep the moisture down. The bathroom never gets that steamy, which I’m sure drastically changes the moisture exposure equation.
In the bathroom in general, I can understand. Even without a fan, the steam rarely reaches countertop height, so putting it on the countertop or the lid of the toilet or something else low still makes sense if you are in the shower.
My issue lies in having it IN the shower, and having it taking the moisture straight in the teeth. Like… why?? It’s not like it is impossible to hear from next to the shower, well out of the way of said moisture.
Why? Mostly, so I can control it if an episode ends but also for max volume over the shower sounds. When I travel and don’t have a good place for it, I will use a nearby toilet or counter.
Same. Geez Lemmy really gets up on a pedestal about this.
I hate hearing my own thoughts and everything's depressing right now. Listening to music instead of my own thoughts is considered a plus.
I mean I do bring the phone into the bathroom to listen to music, but I use it with a bluetooth speaker and it stays on the sink. Why would you even bring it inside the shower? Capacitive touch screens work like shit when wet.
I have a stand opposite where it stays dry. My shower is fairly big and I put it where the shampoo and conditioner is and it's where the wall is ... I'd never keep it wet.
I don't touch the screen. I just listen to things. I could just leave it on the counter.
if you can't be alone with your own thoughts you need therapy. not an insult. if you can't stand what kind of person you are to the point that your thoughts are toxic, talk to someone. seriously.
I've been to therapy, many times ... yes, I'm suffering, yes I'm trying to improve and no it isn't easy and I'm going through something rough really right now.
I have a lot of friends around me and no one to turn to but yeah, I'm not looking for an online consult right now (as in I'm not holding you or any other Lemmy socially hostage about this). I just can't bear my own thoughts right now.
[edit] thanks though from across the Internet, I do appreciate it [/edit]
My cousin kill a phone this way. He would leave it on the sink to listen to music while he showered and it died (old house - no exhaust fan). It happens.
A lot of people in Japan supposedly, at least that's what someone told me once. Apparently JDM smartphones had waterproofing way before others because of that.
My thoughts too.
Do people not understand how electronics react to water?
I see a surprising number of people using their phones in the sauna and steam room at the gym. Phone addiction is real.
I’m surprised Nokia never made a sauna-proof phone
Water is patient. Honestly making a steam proof phone would be quite expensive and or a marvel of engineering.
I go for hour-long walks around my neighborhood every day. The number of people who walk staring at their phones is surprising to me.
ok, who is doing this?
It's me. I did it.
I have brought my phone into the bathroom (not shower) exactly twice, in my entire life.. and both times it was because I was expecting a vitally important call, and could not wait for the call to come before getting in the shower.
I can not imagine the necessity of regularly taking your phone into the goddamn shower itself
Someone saw the movie Jexi.
I've never even heard of the word Jexi.
Its a movie about AI phone. The dude takes into the shower with him. Pretty hilarious movie.
You take it out of your pants pocket before entering the bathroom?
No, I dont walk around my house with my phone in my pocket.
And so at work?
I don't regularly shower at work
You said bathroom hence my confusion
Unless they use bathroom as the term for the room where you wash yourself not the toilet.
I don't either but I often use the bathroom after coming back home from outside, and the phone is still in my pocket at least then.
What in the boomer is this comment.
It is pretty amazing to me that some people really have to be told not to bring their expensive electronics into the shower. It's the shower, just wash your dirty ass and get out.
Ive brought my phone into the shower for decades and it has not caused any problems ever.
You're not alone, same same. Folks in this thread have a very narrow definition of the role and the duration of the shower.
I mean i kinda get it i take fifteen minute showers but ill put on a video helps me keep time too so i know how long i been in there. I also don't take super hot showers so there's no steam, idk maybe yeah if i had the shower all the way hot it'd be a problem but i take a nice hot shower and there's not much steam idk
Tbf, since I have done this some 2-3 times:
Some special shampoos require you to be sitting there for like 10 minutes until it does its thing. I thought it was safe since water was no longer coming out of the shower, I didn't consider the high humidity environment.
Why not use that time to soap up and rinse off your body while you wait for the shampoo to do its thing? That's what I do.
Washing and rinsing doesn't take that long. I usually shave or clean the shower while I wait, and even that doesn't take long enough sometimes
Some hair dyes can have you standing there for 10 or 20 minutes.
Sometimes just enjoying the steam is nice. It's taking a lot of Blood Sweat and Tears to build a modern world, we are fortunate to have hot safe water on top. I'm going to spend my time and money standing under the boiling shower head and enjoy myself for far longer than everyone else is going to decide is reasonable, I'm going to keep reading and listening while I do so.
As a cyclist, that's leg shaving time.
Then I gotta condition and I feel slick
'special shampoo'
is that your code for jackin' it in the shower?
Feels so awkward to jack off in the shower. I much prefer doing it sitting in the toilet.
When I say special shampoo I mean it. Like the one time my dog got fleas so I used anti-flea dog shampoo just in case. It took forever.
I find it meditative... washing the nooks, rinsing, etc. I do, sometimes, run music outside on a counter with a door open.
In the actual shower, where the water is? Who does that?
Me. I have a phone mount installed in the shower. I need my dopamine receptors to be constantly stimulated from artificial sources, or I can't accomplish basic tasks like cleaning/showering/cooking. Executive Dysfunction is a bitch.
People with normal dopamine levels just can't relate, so I get a lot of flack and am often called lazy. Which is annoying as hell because I genuinely want to be a functioning adult, but my stubborn brain just refuses to let me accomplish anything without external stimulation. It's torture being labeled something you're not, just because someone can't understand what it's like when your brain won't make the reward chemicals on its own. But it is what it is.
Also BTW I've been doing this for a decade and only once has a phone actually died on me from water damage. So I don't worry about it. I'm clumsy so I always have an insurance plan for my phones regardless...
Is that not something that meds like Ritalin can help with, like ADHD? Or is it different?
Stimulants like Adderall, PEA, Octodrine, and Propylhexedrine are a half decent band-aid, but they raise my blood pressure and make me feel "tweaky" so I don't want to take them every day. They feel like they're slowly killing me. I mean imagine taking meth every single day. That's what it feels like for me. Unfortunately since tolerance builds rapidly, I have to take massive doses for it to continue working, further compounding the problem.
So I try not to take stims more than a few times a month, because even once a week is too much for me. It sucks ass that there's no long-term solution for ADHD. Just temporary fixes that rapidly stop working.
Man adderall gave me psychosis that landed me in a mental hospital. I’m also a non functional adult and I’m trying to unfuck my document situation here in Hell America. I do agree that yeah; stimulants are bad especially if you are like me. Who is prone to bouts of insanity because on stims you really can’t really control your own thoughts anymore. It’s a terrifying experience and honestly it’s not that that uncommon to have ADD or ADHD and be a bit psychotic. Especially worse with the OCD that I used to have with it. But you know at least I had a super friendly dog and grandparents to take care of me and a Nintendo Switch. I got over it eventually but I never wanna go through that experience ever again. Though I do appreciate having the ability to sleep for an entire year essentially through a winter. Being in a dark room also helped a lot. It kinda feels like a fever dream when I remember it now though. I should probably go back on anti psychotics after my most recent break with stimulants. Shame I don’t have money or health insurance.
There is exciting research being done in metabolic psychiatry looking at ADHD in fat adapted people. There is a ongoing study (https://doi.org/10.1186/ISRCTN62698625) but there is a good expectation they will see sustained results, this is inline with Dr. Georgia Ede's metabolic strategy in Change your Diet Change your mind. The study authors gave a interview 2 years ago - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUAbqXcSAzg , so maybe we will see the results published soon.
::: spoiler infographic of change your diet, change your mind :::
TLDR - metabolism and brain energy appear to be the core of many psychiatric conditions, so its worth trying a fat burning metabolism for 30 days and see if it improves your ADHD.
Can we just take a moment to say, it is insane to me that the general public would prescribe drugs onto a neurospicy person just so that they felt normal about their predisposition and judgmental about everyone else's in how they use their assistive technology?
Sometimes I want to have a wank and a wash immediately after
I do, setting it in the corner makes the acoustics great for playing music
I like to do some business calls under the shower.
You have showers with water?
Why people so judgmental. I'm sure y'all do shit others find more weird than having your phone in the shower.
I floss and brush in the shower. I just get so impatient standing at the sink for so long. Shower is relaxing, though, so I do a much better job in there.
I thought they meant in the bathroom while you shower but people have their phone IN the shower!?
Add me to the list of people who just learned that anybody takes their phone into the shower regularly.
From reading the comments though, it seems to be a mix of phone/stimulation-addicted people and people who aren't. But I'm skeptical of those who claim they aren't.
I used to have a perfectly working system with a waterproof bag-thing for the phone and a bluetooth speaker somewhere outside of the shower so I could watch youtube videos while just chilling in the shower.
Also had one of those long 1920s cigarette holders so I could smoke a joint in there. I made a good time out of it.
I have always enjoyed quiet showers. I dont need to consume content during every activity.
I wish I had your brain. I feel like unless I have a constant stream of information coming into my brain, I might go insane.
It’s awful, and unhealthy, and I’m trying to figure out how to escape this paranoid insanity, but it’s what I’ve got until I can figure out the fix. Reminds me, need to schedule my next therapist appointment.
Exercise:
Set a timer for 1 minute.
Sit down and do nothing.
Do that every day. After a while, you'll adjust and it wont be painful. Then do 2 minutes. Then do 5. Then do 15. Every day.
Here's what happened:
You've lived your entire life in a bowl of cocaine. You were born into it. When your parents wanted a break, they gave you some coke. When you were good, they gave you some coke. After you completed your homework, you were allowed a little coke. When you grew up, if you feel tired, or feel like you don't want to do something, you can have a little nose candy to recharge.
If you want to stop using so much cocaine, you can't just go cold turkey. You need to start by being able to survive one minute at a time without it.
It's easy to just remove the bowl of cocaine and not use cocaine. But that's not going to help you practice choosing not to do cocaine when it is available.
The only way to get better is to stop consuming content! Choose a weekend, tell your friends you will be out of touch, and turn off your phone for a couple of days (if you can't do that, just shut off WIFI and data so you can still text/call). It really won't be as bad as you think, and you might even like it - but you will have to do stuff to occupy your hands. Cook, walk, read easy books, exercise, etc.
Belive me, I’ve tried. I’m an asssitant scoutmaster for my kids troop, and we camp about monthly in the summer. So, I’ve got lots of phone free weekends behind me. I’m also got kids in sports too, so go to games and meets.
I’m taking steps but I still have work to do.
Don't take big steps. Take small ones.
In the running world, there's this thing called "Couch-to-5k". Its a progran that can literally take you from square one - the couch - to a non-stop 5k run. Its all about small gains and slow incremental progress.
A few small conscious efforts to disconnect from your phone every day, even for 15 mins at a time, will slowly add up to bigger and bigger gains over time. If you can break the impulse to check your phone by disrupting the immediate availability of your phone, you might be able to get the ball rolling pretty quickly.
Taking steps is already something. Take back those minutes when you can!
I felt the same way. It's an upbringing thing, and I'm not sure it was due to being raised poor by parents always jobbing -- dad was employed for 5 different jobs at one point. I gotta be working.
My wife was raised by parents with job security and lived in one house her entire childhood. Parents were home at 4 and then 5, and knew (and taught) healthy disagreement over contentious issues. Her whole family is a breath of fresh air vs the raccoons my family must resemble.
She took me on a vacation, like the first one I ever had. It was to the Dominican, just some resort (occidental in punta cana). I asked what our plans were while we were there, because I gotta have that calendar full.
"Nothing," she said.
"Nothing?"
"Nothing."
And we did, largely, nothing. 10 days, beach chairs and impeccable waiters at beck and call. We saw the whales and did a snorkel, and we went to the Amelia supermarket for snacks...
But really we sat and watched the ocean. We talked like spouses should, holding hands and breathing easily. There was no work, no issues, no jobs; and, above all the cost of going and staying, the big thing a trip like that did was to get us away from the churn and swirl and rumbling gnawing stress of western life.
You may not realize it, but you need some downtime: real downtime.
Don't go anywhere fancy, but turn the phone over and just be for a sec. Be you, be present, be interactive, be observant; and just breathe.
I found it life-changing. We don't go to fancy places very often, but we do reserve some time to be ourselves like that, and it's a very good thing.
Maybe it'll help for you too? Either way, I hope you find that balance and sanctuary too, so you can exist for just a calming moment without the fear of missing out on the trivia-stream.
There is two people in this thread
people who read "bringing your phone in the shower" as having the phone in the same room as the shower.
everyone else who seems to think that people are putting their phones directly under the shower nozzle.
If you can't take a bath without your phone you might have a problem.
But how else am I going to use the app for my shower's water temperature and pressure and massage pattern and RGB lighting?
Fucking Christ, so phone fiends can't even take 2-5 minutes to wash themselves with out getting their stimulation?
Civilization can't survive this.
Taking your phone into the shower, waterproof or not, is psychopath behavior. Jesus fuck you guys, take 10 minutes of your day to peel your eyes off of the screen and just relax for a bit.
I mean, I do both of those things.
TIL listening to music is for psychopaths
I bought a waterproof box, some touch sensors, and an esp32, and made a waterproof bluetooth remote i can keep in the shower. speaker and phone live outside, but i still get control.
That feels like a lot of work for very little benefit. Do you just want to jerk off with no cleanup or what?
No, soldering's my hobby. The thing I do in my free time instead of jerking off, if you will. So I build a lot of not-really-necessary electronics.
Fair enough lol. Do what you enjoy
"Why would you have the phone in the shower anyway?"
MUSIC.
Sad, that the recommendation is "use Bluetooth speakers instead, which are more expendable" instead of "are safe to use".
I used to have a waterproof Bluetooth speaker, but it was actually better than having your phone with you since it was right there in the shower.
UE BOOM speakers are safe to use in a humid bathroom during a shower. I'm pretty sure.
They sound fucking fantastic too.
Who is doing this? Especially when there are waterproof Bluetooth speakers for under $50. Far lower risk there.
I don't mind taking a break from my phone in the shower. It never would have occurred to me to have it in there.
Have the same phone for 6 years now, bring it into the shower most days, and have not had any issues.
Maybe steam has a non-zero effect but it's pretty damn close to zero..
This thread is a great reminder that Lemmy users do not represent the general public. I put a phone mount in the shower so I don't have to pause a podcast or whatever to take a shower, it's nice. I don't really love showers and struggle to stop what I'm doing to change direction, so it's one less barrier to entry. My partner and some friends who have used my shower have also appreciated it.
Well according to lemmy you are a phone addicted psychopath
That's me. Hell, you wouldn't believe this, but I'm on Lemmy on my phone as I type this.
Why not just use a bluetooth speaker, and leave the phone outside the bathroom? That way, if it breaks, then it's not as expensive to replace as a phone, and the audio quality is generally better than what a phone's speakers can put out.
Phones are like cigarettes but you need to smoke them to verify your payment or login to your bank.
Not in that sense, man. I'm trying to say that humans have developed an independence from cell phones. Many simple things, like going for a walk or other things, all depend on cell phones, thus creating addictions to screens and making them stronger. I'm not saying you're going to smoke your cell phone like it's a cigarette. I'm just arguing that screen addiction, whether for a short or long time, can damage your brain, making many simple things in your daily life difficult to do without a cell phone.
Yeah but how else can I exchange shower nudes ?
Polaroids and postal mail, like god intended!
If this is you, seek help. You have a problem.
shower no, bath yes
Maybe some of y'all shower too long.
Yeah but that's unrelated to my phone
What about golden showers? Asking for
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put it in a plastic bag or two and ready you are to keep being consumed by content.
Interesting. I got a cheap Xiaomi smartwatch a few months ago and the manual straight up says that the water resistance is good enough for basic swimming but don't bring it into a sauna or hot shower for this exact reason. (I avoid submerging it in general because I bought it secondhand and if it was refurbished that can mess up the waterproofing.)
I have been wearing my Huawei smartwatch everywhere for years. Shower, jacuzzi, surfing, etc. No problems so far.
My mi band 3 survived more than one Ocean swim. Gave it to my mum, still works. The pixel watch i replaced it with is dead, without any swimming.
I never knew there were this many people who bring phones in the shower. Where is this world going.... People chase dopamine even while showering
Y'all need to also stop taking it to take a shit. I deal with my intrusive thoughts just like you but c'mon now. Just stop the addiction at least when in the oval office. Even more so while IN PUBLIC RESTROOMS. Just stop. You're already taking the nature call. Other callers can wait.
TBH I dont bring my phone to the bathroom anymore cause i dont want to risk my phone breaking, even if it is waterproof.
Why don't these shower-phone people just get a much cheaper and more durable waterproof speaker? I get wanting music or a podcast or whatever but I can't imagine how I would watch a video with all the soap and water everywhere
ITT: who the fuck brings their phone in the shower?
And they’re right.
I've had this same phone since Covid, and bring it into the shower every day for podcasts, music, or YouTube videos.
Still works great! It might need charge in the evening after heavy use, but what 6 year old phone wouldn't?
Guess I'll go back to putting it in a sandwich bag lol
Won't help with the heat but at least with the rest
People take their phones in the shower!? Braver folks than I, I paid over 1k for that shit and I'm not risking it.
Part of that $1k went into water proofing it. I paid for it, might as well make use of that feature.
This is precisely why I waited until they released a watch and explicitly stated it is waterproof.
Fair enough
Personally I need the danger to feel alive.
Also, you should look into buying second hand phones, $1000 is crazy.
I paid like $230 two years ago for this Pixel 8 I'm typing on. And that's paying extra for an unlocked one.
who the fuck would
I’ll keep that in mind in case I ever shower inside a boiler.
i use mine when i take a shower to play music that i can use to time how long it takes. i do not have it in the shower stall with me just hooked up to a bluetooth speaker on a shelf above the toilet next to the stall. the phone itself is laid on the lavatory counter about a meter from the shower and covered by the clothes i removed prior to getting wet so it doesnt get any water at all on it
I don't even keep my phone in my pocket when exercising because of the humidity from sweating. If I'm hiking it either goes in my pack or in a ziplock to protect it.
I haven't found that to be a problem if I put it screen side in. Except for the sweat on the screen. I've had sweat on the camera side get into the camera. I like to have it convenient to snap a picture quickly, like if there's some wildlife.
Waterproof ≠ Heatproof, and it also doesn't guarantee chemicals and other impurities won't wreck your phone. I took my old phone into the ocean a few times because we didn't have lockers on the beach and no rental car to leave stuff in. It was rated waterproof and it survived, but it didn't want to charge for quite a while and getting the salt and sand out of the usb-c port was tedious.
My fitness watch is as happy in the pool swimming laps as it is anywhere else. I do take it off in the shower though because I don't want to clean soap scum off it or have water trapped between the watch and my wrist. It sounds like I may be inadvertently saving the battery!
Also Waterproof ≠ Waterproof. Found that out the hard way with my pixel, I was taking some pictures by the pool, it went in the water, broken and no warranty for liquid damage.
Forgetting I had my phone in my pocket, I got in to a 105 F hot tub. I immediately realized and got it out of water. It was already glitching out and dying. That IPX rating does not respect heat!
I have taken my phones into showers since before waterproof phones were a thing and I never had an issue. I change mine every couple of years so maybe I haven’t used them long enough to notice any issues.
I take mine into the shower occasionally. Generally just to finish a reply or finish reading something. My phone is 4 years old and is 100% fine.
My phone was $800, I think. Of COURSE I'm not taking it in to the shower!! 😧 I don’t even take it into the bathroom.
If one is this ignorant and addicted to the damn thing, plug it while you take a shower. The phone will be happy.
Is this the same for baths?
Although water temperature for my bath is hotter than for my showers, it seems to me less steam comes off a bath.
I guess the water in the shower is aerosolized by the high speed impact so perhaps baths are better. I don't imagine the water temperature makes much of a difference since its presumably not 100°c
It’s dumb that people think water resistance and water proof are the same thing.
Like i dunno who this article is for. We’ve had phones since 2014. Never had much of an issue on some; others die.
wat
If you talk about smartphones, the first one - the LG Prada - released in 2007.
Wait what? Has Apple successfully stolen LG's valor? I could have sworn it was the iPhone in 2007.
I'm actually kind of shocked that I wasn't aware of this phone.
Edit: you know, I've never been a huge fan of Apple or Steve Jobs, and I know he pretty much stole every idea they ever had... But for some reason I always gave them credit with the iPhone.
Apparently he stole that too.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LG_Prada
The rumor is that the whole iPhone concept was actually the idea of one unnamed engineer at apple who worked on it in his spare time; apparently he had the idea at the same time as the folks at IG, probably it was kind of a natural evolution of the earlier devices. (You have to consider that the thing that made the iPhone such a success, the "app store", was not available from the beginning. The first devices had no official way of adding any software, but people quickly found hacks and added a debian-like package management to it. From there the first custom applications spawned and only then Apple understood the potential of opening the platform to third-party developers.)
Regarding the engineer, apparently he was fired by his supervisor for spending time on this "stupid" idea; but back in the day, Apple had the policy that everyone who was fired had to report to Jobs one last time, and then he showed him what he was working on and Jobs took it from there.
True, what I should have said was I’ve had a phone since 2014, but is garbled sentence now.
Who's taking showers so hot that steam comes off? A quick web search says showers should be colder than 40°, maybe up to 42.5°. Phones start thermal throttling when battery temp reaches 45°. So shower water is hotter than the recommended operating temperature of 0 °C to 35 °C, but not hotter than what the phone itself can get.
The manual says sudden changes in temperature such as the sauna may damage the water resistance.
May doesn't mean will. Mind you that the manual also says installing unofficial apps voids your warranty. I wouldn't be worried unless someone actually tests this and finds that it does cause harm.
Edit: Did I say something wrong? I don't understand the downvotes
I take showers that are predominantly 95-100% hot water.
I have very oily skin and the hot water actually clears my pores and I have less breakouts this way.
so yeah...people do take showers where steam comes off. in fact, in the winter even after I dry off, my body steam will rise from my skin for a solid 5 minutes afterwards.
the real problem here is people taking their phones in the shower with them. gross. the thing covered in fecal matter, and all sorts of other germs/microbes? and then you let other people touch it? I bet your phone is likely dirtier than your toilet seat or your outdoor shoes, and you take it in the shower with you, to what, "shower" with it??
put it down. leave it on do not disturb. and enjoy a shower disconnected from the world.
Wait... why's it a problem? You're actually convincing me that taking it into the shower is a good thing because people can clean it off! Lol
I go to my ~10° downstairs shower and it takes like a minute for steam to appear. If I took my phone there regularly, it might have an effect.
Are you only taking cold showers? I've never taken a hot shower that didn't produce steam.
Not really. As the water sprays and splashes it forms some mist like effect, perhaps that's being mistaken for steam here?
If someone takes a phone into the shower, it will probably be better if they lose that phone, and get a moment to reflect on the idiocity of such a behavior.
People used to say this about having phones.
Unless you shower in boiling water there won't be any steam.
Water starts evaporating LONG before the boiling point.
Sure does, and that produces water vapour, not steam.
Lol what the actual fuck
Steam (i.e. the gas form of water) comes from boiling water and is mostly invisible, the clouds of vapour you see in the shower aren't "steam". I know people say that anyway, it's not the worst thing ever, but some people might be interested to learn there's a difference.
OK fair and I learned something today. But I think you'll even admit that's exceptionally pedantic.....
Exceptionally pedantic in general perhaps, but for me the pedantry was unexceptional.
Hey everyone!! We got Mr. Big Brain over here. He's positively bored with our stupidity!
Oh Jesus.
Where?
I hope he hasn't read my posts, he'll judge me negatively and then I'll feel bad!
Dude leave some pussy for the rest of us
Temperature is an average. On average the water molecules won't be at boiling temp, but occasionally some of them will be and they will evaporate, and the hotter the water is, the closer that average is to the boiling point, the more it'll happen. Earth's entire water cycle hinges on the fact that water doesn't need to be boiling to evaporate.
You're totally right, I don't think we're disagreeing. Water evaporates at room temperature (and pressure) but it's not the same thing as steam. Water vapour is a mixture of tiny liquid droplets with air, steam (in the sense I'm using the word) is a gas form of water and only forms above 100°C (at standard pressure, a few degrees lower if you're e.g. up a mountain).
Why are you so down voted? People should remember this from high school. If you have steam in your shower youll be in hospital haha. You get water vapour in a shower.
Now I cant take this article seriously because the author hasn't understood the difference. Maybe its anecdotal but ive taken my phone into the shower for youTube since they started being ip68
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/steam
It doesn't have to be actually boiling to be steam.
I think it's because I was too snarky and people typically refer to the water vapour in the shower as "steam".
It ain't easy being... steamy?