Sensing He's in Deep Trouble, Flock Safety CEO Says It's All Been a Big Misunderstanding
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That is also what innocent people who have had their lives shattered and obliterated by these machines were likely screaming through tears and terror as they were beaten and violently forced into the back of an unmarked SUV by thugs with machine guns.
You mean the same officers who regularly serve no-knock warrants on the wrong house?
You demand perfection and it's unffair. Who hasn't flashbanged a baby in a crib from time to time. /s
Boy if I had a nickle
It's crazy that you have so many nickels.
Ore what
your wealth would rival jefff Bozos!
Put it in C02 gas for a while, then smell it.
No, I think they mean specifically the officers who throw a flash bang blindly into said house, after knocking down the wrong house's door.
And the flash bang lands in the baby's crib
Has he gotten literally any consequences?
Not yet but I bet he gets scared whenever he sees a woodchipper near by
He’ll be fine, he doesn’t have a spine or a heart.
Someone should make a specialized woodchipper (ceochipper) with those meat crushing rollers instead of the blades or whatevers inside.
But way bigger
That's a meat grinder.
....so its basically what putin is doing to ukraine right now? and what zelensky is doing to those conscripts?
Something something eat the rich.
That's why he's saying something. He's afraid there will be.
I’m afraid there won’t be. Mans needs jail at a minimum, death at an average, and a millennium in the Recently-Invented Torment Nexus™ at a maximum.
A healthy, broadly educated population, which feels safe and secure, is incompatible with, and toxic to, conservative and authoritarian ideologies.
They need you to be sick, stupid, and scared.
which is why the car-centric , uncritical-thinking-education-system society that is normalized is most places is ...well.... being normalized.
Keeping a large enougj percent of the population sick and stupid leads to infighting where the lower classes of people swuabble and blow up each other rather than the greedy fatcats who hold most of the planet's resources needlessly and selfishly.
A billionaire is very happy when they hear the news that a poor person being evicted from one of the homesor apartments that theyre buying probably got shot by the police if they refused to leave cause that police officer will be the one who draws ire from the public rather than the billionaire. ← THIS exact same story has happened a trillion times in history in other instances
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distribution_of_wealth#/media/File:Distribution_of_wealth_globally.jpg
HENCE, schools are underfunded for that very reason. serves 2 purposes, makes future republican voters, mostly men. and people working low wages for the rest of thier life.
3 purposes. When they're inevitably the target of a mass shooter, the outrage and fear can be used and abused.
i also forget to mention, originally cannon fodder for the military.
No amount of funding can fix the curriculum, but yeah.
Edit: I guess I need to explain this for some of you, but the state will push their agenda regardless of funding. What good is a million dollars for textbooks if the textbooks don't include civil rights?
It's interesting how this coincides with the news about the cases against Luigi, and I can't help but wonder if this CEO fears becoming like that other CEO.
I find it very hard to believe that anyone in that company, especially the CEO, believes themselves to be "the good guy"
I quit a job for moral reasons after nearly two years because it took that long for me to realize that it wasn’t actually at all cool to work at an insurance company defending businesses that gave their employees mesothelioma (among many other types of claims).
It sounds obvious when you say it like that, but it took a while for me to realize that when the defense and plaintiff’s attorneys are all good friends with each other and with the mediators involved, there’s not actually much of a check on them negotiating multiple cases in conjunction (I’ll come down to $5k for smith and jones each, but I can’t settle Simmons for less than $200k).
When I witnessed that, I told my boss, who was horrified, until he realized that they weren’t billing that conversation to multiple claims, and then he didn’t see the issue. My management had always been very vocally in favor of paying what we owed, not trying to minimize our payments, but as long as the breach of ethics wasn’t “coming from our side,” they were perfectly happy to take advantage of it.
I’m very much not proud of this, but I think I could have continued believing that I was helping the real victims who had yet to come forward by saving the coverage reserves in the cases that were in front of me (through actively defending them and haggling during the negotiation of settlements, not through any funny business of my own) indefinitely, had I not witnessed that conversation or received such a blasé response from my company.
Thank you for caring. Too many people are willing to harm others for pay as long as they can distance themselves from the consequences.
To be entirely fair, I had a pretty privileged position*, so I had the luxury to act in accordance with my morals once I realized I wasn't. I don’t know that I would have been able to convince myself to quit if I were living paycheck to paycheck trying to support a family.
*Looking back, I was absolutely in a privileged position, but that was mostly due to me earning between $50-60k/year in a HCOL area at that role (and $35-40k for a few years beforehand, all within the last decade) and not having kids or student loans. That’s fucked up.
I was making six figures doing web development for a bank. My life began to fall apart and I quit. I wish I could say it was an entirely morally motivated decision, but it was mostly me beginning to realize I was burned out. Still, I quit without hesitation and I don't regret it. My boss said we had to come in to the office for tax purposes, basically. She called it "funny money."
People are not pawns to be pushed across the board.
So I was also privileged. I've been coasting on savings since quitting, but the money is running low and the AI bubble has yet to burst. I may get a fast food job to survive for now, but my sights are set on ecological work. I want to give back to the planet and do more to build a better future instead of taking all I can get. I wish my whole life had gone differently. I wish I hadn't fallen for the bait at all.
Thank you for sharing your experiences. We have much to learn.
I also wanted to do some good, so I went back to get my masters in Germany and now I teach new immigrants the language. It’s so much easier to live with myself and I very much recommend it. Plus, we really need more good people in ecology work, they’ve currently got a hell of a heavy load. Good luck!
Amazing. 🙂 Learning a new language can unlock so many options. Thank you, and good luck!
Thank you for using your heart.
Reminds of those people who work for lockheed martin knowing full well tha tthat. company's executives and workers are happily partaking in the genocide of the Palestinians
And of those who dont conscientiously object their IOF service....
No. This has to do with the negative press and the thousands of contracts they are losing. Not everything has to do with that case
Whatever do you mean? He's got flock cameras to protect him. He's as safe as he feels.
I think the CEO assassination is the main reason we've seen this swift deployment of surveillance cameras everywhere. It just so happens they're also useful for wannabe dictators to further terrorize the people, as we're seeing.
CEOs are wannabe dictators. The venn diagram is a circle.
Everyone’s the hero in their own story.
Except me. I'm the villain in my story.
You'll never get away with it
That's the bizarre thing. I seem to be the only one who doesn't want me to get away with it.
Ah, that reminds me. Did anyine else hear how jury selection will now be anonymized for the Luigi case?
I can bet all the money in my bank account that they only did this cause they know that when the jury convicts him they dont want the jury to also be ' Luigi'd'
You'd be surprised at just how far some people can stick their heads up their own ass, I always am.
There's people who eat meat and think they're not murderers.
Don't be surprised by the power of cognitive dissonance. People like this do think they're the good guys
Even Hoover didn't say that.
I think Big Brother wasn't a pejorative. It was how they called themselves
This reads exactly like someone trying to foist off blame on an already hated Policing system. We already hate the cops, my guy. But guess what? We can do two things at once. Three things even. Our hatred is legion.
hatred is only useful when it substantiates things.
"NOTHING is substsntial UNTIL it is substantiated"
What?
It doesnt matter how much the people hate this Flock CEO guy.
If nothing substantial happens to him as a result of thiis 'supposed' hate fr om the people he will continue to do all the scummy needless surveillance nonsense he is currently doing. And making it worse.
"Nothimg is substantial until it is substantiated'
If the 'suppoosed' substantial amounts of hatred that Germans had for adolph hitler were substantiated early on in his career? He probanly would not have done all those shitty thjngs that he ended up doing to Africans, Asians nand Europeans.... and yet.... nothing happened to him during his rule?. Tjere were very few attempts to stop him and most attempts to stop him were easily thwarted. He was only stopped when he was invaded by those Europeans who came looking for revenge against him. Götz Aly easily proved thatt there was practically no hatred towards hitler durinng his rule of Germany in the book 'Hitler's Beneficiaries'
Same can be said for any other asshole in history like pol pot. There was so much 'supposed' hatred for pol pot from other international leaders during his rule ...and yet....nothing happened to him during his rule? The only time he was stopped was when the Vietnamese people said 'Fuck it! Were gonna substantiate an invasiom of Cambodia and kick him the fuck out cause they ddont deserve to be genocided like this" ...and they did kick him the fuck out.
Same can said for this flock ceo asshole. If nothing happens to him? Do you REALLY think he's gonna stop doing what he's doing right now unless something substantial happens to him? ....Ha!
There's a reason he's afraid. And it's because so many people are now shining a lime light on him and he realizes that he may be the fall guy. We've got people showing up to town hall meetings where they discuss Flock with guillotines pulled by bicycles. He doesn't have to get Luigi'd for us to put the fear of whatever deity you care to name in him.
Additionally, the thing you have to realize is, chances are he's got friends. Family. People who are going to start realizing their lives can be tracked and scrutinized. There will be some substantial downsides to being the face of this at some point. Whatever he's getting paid, it won't be enough when his sister finds out her husband's been cheating on her, and that his mom is being stalked by some wackjob cop.
The type of world that we live in today is one where , as far as Im concerned, most rich people and/ or well connected people wonnt give a flying fuck about anything thst 'The Dirty Dark Poors' say or do unless it involves 'Mangioni-ism' of them or their associates or 'Mangioni-Type-Actions'
We all saw what the IRA had to do to have ANY substantial changes, nah? And their last massive 'Mangioni-Type-Action' was in the 90s if my memory is correct ?
I have never seen situations like this play out in any other way, as far as Im concerned.
That only lasts until we turn their panopticon toy against them. That's exactly what I'm saying. I'm all for a revolution and all that, but understand that I think we are talking about different sides of the same coin. This will personally affect him in some ways whether he likes it or not.
it doesnt even have to be full-blown revolution. It just has to be so many substantial inconveveniences in his and hiis business partners daily lives that he has no cjoice but to submit.
What's really scary is how little coverage these cameras/this company/these stories get in Europe.
Very, very little, if any. I don't think that I've seen it heard anything other than what I see on Lemmy.
Wait it's not talked about over the pond? They're a hugely controversial and admonished thing here in the states. The panopticon, if you will
I'm not the most up to date on the news, but I've seen no coverage at all about Flock here in Sweden. Palantir is more widely known, because our military is making use of the tech, as is Polisen.
I've seen a couple of surveillance towers in my town. It's hellishly dystopian.
Edit: So an article came out today saying that they're going to implement real time face detection systems. Great!
I haven't seen them mentioned once in any of the media. That doesn't mean that they haven't been, it is just likely that any mention of them is a small story that could easily be glossed over.
Do cops in Europe handle their cameras better?
Many countries have only just got bodycams, many do not still have them.
Public CCTV has grown where I am, but nothing like Flock.
Its old news for much of Western Europe.
They don't have bodycams here. And handing over cctv footage to the police is voluntary afaik, they can't demand footage with a warrant.
I believe the first case where someone was falsely arrested due to a facial recognition error was a black person in the UK.
Afaik the police is not corrupt in Europe, just a little bit backwards in some countries
They're corrupt, but not yet on the scale that is seemingly mentioned over there.
I just had to explain them to a US American. Surprisingly not everyone knows about them
Add this guy to The List.
Crook needs to be tried.
Well they may not want the mantle of "Big Brother," but they are 100% a part of the Big Brother system of surveillance that's currently tracking all of us. Patriot Act says that the government has next to unlimited surveillance authority during a declared emergency, so every president since then has been re-upping that "National Emergency" so that the surveillance machine can keep on chugging. There is no indication that it will ever stop. The pretense of us operating under "Threat level Orange" for over 2 and a half decades is ridiculous.
Also, the Flock system is a really stupid part of Big Brother. In one instance, it misread license plate numbers an astonishing 71% of the time.
If you feel like there's a need to exclude yourself from the machine you helped build/create/market, then perhaps you shouldn't have been involved in that machine.
If not flock then someone else would've done it, and there's no way to know if someone else is already doing it, or has already done it, but those are problems for a different day. I do know that if I mixed up a 2 and 7 whether intentional, by understandable mistake, or by negligence, I'd be in trouble. Arguments have been made in the past that bodycam footage generally should not be shared because it captures people at their worst, having the worst day of their lives when police respond to a disaster. Flock's using the "eh, good enough" approach to find an acceptible limit for how many people they cause to have their worst day ever.
You are what you do and the purpose of a system is what it does. So if you build a system that allows mass abuse of power through surveillance then that's who you are and that's the purpose of the system you built. No much point arguing about intent. It's irrelevant and this guy needs to pay for what he did. Not only for justice but to send a message to anyone else trying to do the same thing.
Oh, you didn't understand? Get the fuck out of our communities. It's simple.
We should bring back the classics.
Nah, that guy escaped.
That guy was substantially smarter, faster, and better equipped. All these oligarchs are dense, puss-filled sacks with financial plot armor only.
Let's give it a shot
Seeing citadel in the background is just chef's kiss.
A big misunderstanding???
My guy, not to be like, needlessly hyperbolic, or anything, but the general sentiment I see is that most Americans wouldn't mind seeing you skinned alive. Fucking NOBODY likes Flock, outside of those directly working in the surveillance apparatus, and even THEY hate you!!!
So incredibly tonedeaf...
That’s the flock guy?
Cripes.
The type and the scale of information being collected on people is the problem, not the retention window.
And no matter how much Mr. Langley wants to spin that the surveillance system only creates "leads" that are supposedly checked and acted upon by officers, look at how military surveillance systems like Lavender, which essentially was used as an excuse generator for why the IDF should bomb a person. Cops' behaviour with Flock to date already shows that they don't check their AI-generated leads first.
Yes, I'm sure. But the misunderstanding is the thought that we would just accept your bullshit and do nothing about it. You evil asshole.
"Hey bro, I heard you like things stuck on top of poles."
One Gaddafi special coming up!
why do they always look like coke-fueled nepo babies?
He must be very vexed, what with all the voyeurism and such.
Just wait till we bust out Luigi. Then you'll be sorry asshole.
Why is it that people always ask: "When do we bust out Luigi?"
But then people never ask: "Why cant we all bust out our own Luigis?"
Facts
Their plans cannot happen. Then it'll be too late.
this mother fucker is in denial and is trying to subvert people opions. HES IS WRONG!
Hopefully he's standing in just the right spot when one gets chopped down and he can see it slowly topple towards him.