Startrek.website is retaliatory defederating from dbzer0 because db0 put their friend AdmiralPatrick on blast for the Tess shenanigans and then proceeds to remove comments calling them out for it
I don't understand how Patrick hiding a DDOS attack in his "goodbye" message isn't grounds for banning his alts on that server according to their policy. It literally is breaking the law in many countries
Edit: for that matter, .world should consider the same for his alts there
James R Kirk - he was posting like an impartial observer on Fediverse vs Disinformation @db0 in a breakdown of the ban list thread. Things like:
The dev posted a response in c/Tesseract but you're mostly correct. They wanted to make it easier for like minded future admins to be able to spin up a Lemmy instance without having to know all of the lore.
Then when people called him out he started becoming a frothing troll.
I just think it's hilarious that instead of "saving" the fediverse they fractured it. Whiney bitches love to break shit then whine about it being broken.
I would say they've brought the fediverse together like never before. I don't think this many people have agreed on a single thing in the history of fedi.
It showed the broad spirit of the users, and that the fundamental nature of the federation design model... works literally exactly as it was intended to.
Sure, you can be the petty tyrant of your own fiefdom.
But no one rules everything, and anyone, at a comparatively low actual cost of entry, can make their own fiefdom, if they want to.
Maybe we should all be thanking nutomic and Dessalines, regardless of any specific disagreements any of us may have with them, for doing the fundamental conceptual and coding work.
I would definitely agree. Despite our differences, we all have one thing in common. We don't like being deceived by those who build the frontends we use. We trust our credentials to these people and trust they aren't going to screw us over. He violated that trust and people are right to be pissed about it.
It's true, we usually spend most of our time hating eachother for not being the right kind of leftist. This has been a united front as far as I've seen.
Hell, it's the first time I've seen everyone open to reasonable discussions of ideas like his in a long time. By setting up a boundary that everyone vocally agrees is unacceptable suddenly there's a sense of trust that people aren't all rushing towards it.
Lemmy.world isn't going to take action against his account. They already don't take actions against the no-content sockpuppet accounts and extremist trolls who use their instance. They should take action against them, they likely won't though.
Who's to say he hasn't? Using alts is a form of engagement. Using his main account risks being banned for it in a lot of places, and that stops him from doing that smug confrontation thing he likes to do.
It even has the "here is a link to the entirety of our policy" trope. Like com'on, bruh, this is actually making me angry just reading it regardless of context.
I loathe that sort of shit.
That's because they were the star trek mods from reddit pre-apicalypse. Not having duplicate communities in Reddit and all power concentrated into one mod group or even worse one person is what attracted me to Lemmy in the first place. Not all, but from what I've seen, former mods from Reddit tend to have the entitlement of my community should be the only community.
He just can't help himself! No matter how many times he says he's quitting the platform, he's back before you know it. It's hilarious how transparent and obvious his alts are.
It's one thing to have an alt, (I do, and I intentionally block my account and all politics/negative things to keep space, it's more for looking at memes and making them), its another to pretend it's not you and defend yourself.
The way he uses these alts is very Reddit-like, keeping them dormant until it is time to wake them up to sockpuppet. He has to invent false users to side with him because he's utterly alone otherwise and he can't handle it. Nobody else sees him for the last bastion of Lemmy sanctity and purity that he thinks he is.
How many differently named alts is it normal to have? I could accept like, one or two for safety reasons (never want to connect too much info about yourself). But the known ones (Admiral Patrick, ptz, Kirk) plus all the others who feel suspiciously strongly in favor of him despite being almost entirely inactive is for sure suspicious. Like… whatcha stockpiling all those for, man??
If you're doing app development you tend to aquire accounts - straightforward things like testing interactions between users in different conditions means you quickly wind up with a spare heap of them. It's why pretty much every open-source crashout like this has the same period of rooting out alt accounts and "randos" coming to defend a dev "they" like after being inactive for years.
I think by the time you hit 5 you need a long hard look in the mirror. 1 for NSFW stuff you don't want to associate with your main is normal, 1-2 for breaking up information or other stuff. Then 1 more because I'm sure there are other reasons. But 5? What are you even doing at 5?
Report to your nearest Starfleet officer if you're aware of anyone queer or has communist sympathies, Admiral Patrick McCarthy needs your support to Make Lemmy Reddit Again
I had forgotten the reason the .website was first formed, and then some of the posters returned to .world later. I wonder if there is anyone out there documenting all the different lore bits.
Well, I'm the one who caused the exodus from Startrek.website so... if you've got any questions, just ask.
The tl;dr was thus:
ST.W was made in response to redditors leaving reddit. It was created, and is run, by the same moderators who created and ran /r/StarTrek. Those moderators have a metric ton of drama surrounding them on reddit to the point that Star Trek fragmented into a hundred different subreddits to avoid being associated with what everyone was considering toxic moderation. Even toxic by reddit standards.
So when startrek.website started, the same behavior did too. Curtailing opinions is a big one. [email protected], one of the admins, literally cannot help himself. He's a diehard defender of the newer treks, much like I am, but he takes any slight against the show as an active insult. Where I will only remove things that are categorically false or dogwhistle-type homophobia/racism, he will remove anything that is negative about the newer shows. He will tell you to stay on topic or be positive and refuses any negative coverage.
I first joined startrek.website as Stamets (although I was on lemmy before that) and started posting. Things were going well until I started seeing posts removed from their Star Trek meme community for nonsense reasons. I asked the admins what was up and they handwaved away the abuse from the moderator of that community (USS Burrito Truck) and their own abuse. So I left startrek.website and set up TenForward on lemmy.world (something I've left for [email protected] although I've been very inactive for the past month due to life). I sent messages to the other big posters who were active, friends of mine by that point, asking if they'd want to join me on TenForward. They said yes. By this point, nothing was really posted publicly by me save for a comment or two around the time I left. Those comments were removed/deleted.
The first couple weeks went by smoothly for the comm but not for me. ValueSubtracted started reaching out to several admins of different instances, asking them all to ban me from their instances. Those admins all reported it to me like "What is his problem?" and denied him. So I made a post on Mastodon saying that people should consider staying away from startrek.website due to some odd admin decisions. Within 24 hours I had gotten an email from my mastodon instance saying that there was a report against that post and I needed to clarify it with my admin. I gave her the information and she said the report had no merit and dismissed it. But it was clear who made the report.
We then started getting reports on TenForward for every tiny comment and every tiny post, accusing the community of causing cross instance harassment that was directed towards them. Most of these comments were passively talking about what was going on. There was no hate or harassment but the reports were coming from ValueSubtracted and were overloading the report section. Like maxing out the character count.
I asked him politely to stop several times and he kept doubling down and refusing to stop. It was at that point, realizing he wouldn't stop until he was forced to, that I made a giant post about it. Included all the screenshots of the private messages he sent me, the reports, the insane shit, everything. Proving conclusively that the level of harassment they had risen to was going across multiple websites.
That post was lost when I deleted my lemmy.world account. Or so I thought. Someone sent me the internet archive page for it yesterday. So if you're curious yourself...
It's pathetic. They tried the same thing again a few months ago when I made another post updating their sketchy behavior. They're so predictable that I used the phrase 'scorched earth', quoting VS as probably saying thats what he was going to do. Little did I know until after was that he did use that phrase. When I quoted him for it, he lost his fucking mind and had a meltdown in the matrix channel before leaving in a huff.
explicitly allows discussions about hurting people
Remember kids, wishing death upon mass murderers makes you just as bad as them actually.
Edit: to the coddled, enlightened brunchers incapable of reading the room, itching to have their righteous moment under my comment: next time the IDF starts randomly airstriking the shit out of my quaint little (Christian no less) town, I personally invite you to join me for coffee and contemplating mortality on my veranda. I’ll be so impressed by your opinion on the lives of the people who are dropping WAR ORDINANCE around you and consider me a terrorist because of where I’m from (and you one for sitting for coffee with me). It’ll be so inspiring. You’ll love it, I make decent coffee. Wouldn’t that be fun.
I don't know the exact scenario being referenced above, but personally I don't believe in the death penalty for anything. I truly believe people can change and be reformed. Not that everyone will, but everyone can be. Death robs of any opportunity or hope.
I also understand there is a lot of nuance around this conversation. I don't judge anyone for believing differently, as long as its for good reasons.
Wishing death upon others makes you a bad person. People don't like to be around others who wish or encourage harm towards others. That's why dbzer0 was defederated and will continue to be in the future. Don't like it? Grow up, and stop wishing people to die loser!
Hitler killed himself or would've been killed as part of war had he resisted arrest. Extremists encouraging citizens to murder people as an act of vigilantism is not the same as military actions necessary to win a war.
So being in a class war with the epstein ultra wealthy pedophiles that do terrible terrible shit everyday ruining the lives of everyone on this god forsaken planet doesnt count? Because if we dont win this war one way or another the whole earth is fucked.
So you think framing the current political climate as something it isn't (a war) is justification to launch physical attacks on elected officials. Ok sure bud. I won't visit you in prison though.
Ok sure. Whatever you say bud. If me being against murder makes me a "fascist simp" I would hate to know what being against sex crimes makes me in your eyes...
I've noticed that when you copy-paste a gif it ends up with only the first frame as a still image, but if you actually save it as a .gif file and then upload it, it works.
This is with either the default web UI or Voyager, BTW.
Glad I already deleted my account there. And blocked the instance.
Shame, but I'd rather not be around members of a fandom that actively support shitty and shady practices like that, and I sure as FUCK don't want an admin that's complicit
I mean at least it is an instance doing the defederation and announcing it publicly (so people who don't like this can leave). This also makes a great example for people who don't understand the difference between banning lists in apps vs instances.
Is this the same Star Trek instance that had some huge drama with The Picard Manuever (? Maybe it was someone else?) that led to a user exodus? Or a different one?
I'm willing to bet he's an admin or mod on there 🤣
When I read the summary of the rant he made about "leaving" first thing I thought was "sure buddy". There's no way someone like that doesn't have at least one alt, if only for testing development of their program.
Who knows how bad the infestation is of alts.
You'd think they'd keep a lower profile after breaking a federal law in the country they're in.
Fortunately he’s comically bad at sockpuppeting and he’s all over these posts that are mocking him, on multiple alts, so you can just peruse and make a list if you like.
Only locked after sanitizing. And conveniently that’s the only place they stated they’d talk about it. Convenient that literally no one from their instance got to comment before its removal.
Ok this is getting beyond "i h8 j00" territory and starting to sound like a spurned suitor boiling bunnies. Patrick. Patrick. You will find love. But not like this
I have my own opinions worth posting. Discussions and defenses of modern trek as well as an opinion on the writing that is more than just 'they went woke'
You know, I'm just realising that maybe AdmiralPatrick might have a bit more in common with his name sake than I originally considered. It doesn't make what he did okay. -Like the augments trying to give classified war plans to the enemy- but it does reframe it a little bit. pure speculation on my part but curious. Tenforward was my fav too but I'm settling into this account before I start making another alt.
Most are fine, there are a few right wing instances that crop up but most instances defederated from them fairly quickly (unless you're on an "as long as it's not illegal" instance, which include dbzer0, Lemmy.zip and lemmy.sdf.org)
The ones that are somewhat still federated but best to avoid are the ones known as the Tankie Triad, Hexbear Lemmygrad and Lemmy.ml.
Hex and grad are fairly widely defederated from, including your instance, because of their tankie authoritarian ideology (Supports and defends authoritarian countries like Russia and NK (they'll spread propaganda like Ukraine deserved to be invaded by Russia and it's not even Russia invading but "liberation")).
Lemmy.ml tends to not be, because they try to keep it more subtle, there's this mega thread that documents it. It's lemmy.ml centric, but general rule of thumb is that whatever Lemmy.ml does hex and grad are known to be worse.
Most other instances are fine, .world...is just too big and that "power" has tended to go to their heads sometimes, though I will say not to the mass degree that Lemmy.ml does.
Oh and startrek.website is pretty shit, but you could tell that from this post LMAO
I'm on one of my alts because my main instance (.today) had a hiccup - which rarely happens. Maybe twice in the last year, if I recall correctly.
I've tried five different instances. Lemmy.today doesn't defederate from anyone so you can see the whole lemmyverse and curate your experience from there, instead of having admins decide what you should and shouldn't see. The rules are standard but lax, bigots and abusers still get banned, but it's largely up to the mods to watch over their communities.
Alternatively, if you like a healthy, pre-curated experience at the other end of the spectrum, you could try Beehaw. They're more focused on creating an engaging, well-moderated, welcoming community.
You're on Lemmy.world which is a very large lib instance (very dem friendly, but highly sanitized). They have defederated with the leftests (hexbear.net, Lemmy.ml [the Lemmy dev's home instance], and lemmygrad.ml) over "extreme views" and the anarchists (Lemmy.dbze0.com) over piracy support (oh my mistake, they just blocked all piracy communities) long time ago. I'll let someone else explain the flotilla.
As for good instances, it depends what kind of experience you want to have. Why isn't there an instance test yet?
It's not scare quotes, I'm representing that this was .world's view.
And what hexbear was doing was interacting with the common reditor refugee after interacting with nothing but their leftest instance for years. It was a clash of cultures, and I think the right thing happened. I think that's the great thing about the fediverse - being able to decide (as instance, comm, or user) who you interact with, which was what the tesseract dev was taking away from people.
You're right. Its been so long since I've been on .world that i forgot. I think its also because so many comms are on there too if I remember. I should have known though because I see .worlders in YPTB complaining about .ml sometimes.
I have no idea what all this is. But you YOU are an insufferable twat. So if you are here repping your favorite instance... I'm gonna start thinking Star Trek folk might have a point, as Star Trek people tend to.
Nevermind that the whole federated thing was obviously going to blow up eventually anyway.
You're posting about db0 in MWOG over this and trying to get sh.itjust.works to defederate. Posting about users on MWOG is actively calling for harassment.
The projection is real.
*edit
Already deleted the defederate thread. Get wrecked.
I deleted it. Will try again in 1 week per your advice to wait until things "calm down" won't make any difference. Startrek.website defederated for a good reason. Others will follow.
Good lord dude, stop huffing your own farts and touch grass. You fucked up and got called out. Be the bigger person and move on, like the adult you claim to be, instead of whining at everyone on all these alts.
In case the many, many, many posts and comments all across the fediverse haven’t made it clear, no-one is impressed, and no-one likes you.
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I don't understand how Patrick hiding a DDOS attack in his "goodbye" message isn't grounds for banning his alts on that server according to their policy. It literally is breaking the law in many countries
Edit: for that matter, .world should consider the same for his alts there
How many do you think he's got? I swear I just found one called Eristalis created a day ago lol
Just coming back to confirm that's an AP account lol
That's fucking hilarious, I called that shit within his first three comments on it
James R Kirk - he was posting like an impartial observer on Fediverse vs Disinformation @db0 in a breakdown of the ban list thread. Things like:
Then when people called him out he started becoming a frothing troll.
Pretty sure the dude saying how everyone who blew up over the shitlist was doing illegal shit is one too
Doing illegal shit is a requirement for being a human rights activist in the USA today.
always has been
looks like cardboardcruncher6400 is another, He's basically manifestoing all over the shitpost thread
I'm losing count of his sock puppets at this point
there's another one asking "reasonable" questions and claiming noscript blocks db0 (and intimating it's therefore suss)
I just think it's hilarious that instead of "saving" the fediverse they fractured it. Whiney bitches love to break shit then whine about it being broken.
I would say they've brought the fediverse together like never before. I don't think this many people have agreed on a single thing in the history of fedi.
Agreed.
It showed the broad spirit of the users, and that the fundamental nature of the federation design model... works literally exactly as it was intended to.
Sure, you can be the petty tyrant of your own fiefdom.
But no one rules everything, and anyone, at a comparatively low actual cost of entry, can make their own fiefdom, if they want to.
Maybe we should all be thanking nutomic and Dessalines, regardless of any specific disagreements any of us may have with them, for doing the fundamental conceptual and coding work.
Lemmy's origin story:
https://lemmy.eus/post/5460
Or, frankly, because of the disagreements. Whatever bullshit you can say they pulled, at least it wasn't, yknow, this.
Absolutely, well said.
I would definitely agree. Despite our differences, we all have one thing in common. We don't like being deceived by those who build the frontends we use. We trust our credentials to these people and trust they aren't going to screw us over. He violated that trust and people are right to be pissed about it.
It's true, we usually spend most of our time hating eachother for not being the right kind of leftist. This has been a united front as far as I've seen.
Hell, it's the first time I've seen everyone open to reasonable discussions of ideas like his in a long time. By setting up a boundary that everyone vocally agrees is unacceptable suddenly there's a sense of trust that people aren't all rushing towards it.
Can't have your little kingdom when it's not fractured from the whole.
I dunno. The fediverse seems mostly united against admiralpatrick and his alts.
Nah they sadly have world to fall back on along with startrek.website
This whole situation is bizzare
Lemmy.world isn't going to take action against his account. They already don't take actions against the no-content sockpuppet accounts and extremist trolls who use their instance. They should take action against them, they likely won't though.
Of course not. He's basically jordanlund if he knew how to code.
Maybe he is Jordanlund, it's certainly possible. I don't think one could meaningfully prove otherwise.
Do you really think jordanlund would be able to stay away from this thread if it were him?
Who's to say he hasn't? Using alts is a form of engagement. Using his main account risks being banned for it in a lot of places, and that stops him from doing that smug confrontation thing he likes to do.
what ddos attack? link?
Same comm, just scroll down a bit.
I mean, does it really count as separate drama or a continuation of existing drama?
Continuation for sure.
The whole "you violated our policy but we can't tell you how you violated it" thing has heavy big-tech gaslighting vibes.
It even has the "here is a link to the entirety of our policy" trope. Like com'on, bruh, this is actually making me angry just reading it regardless of context.
I loathe that sort of shit.
Smells like Reddit
That's because they were the star trek mods from reddit pre-apicalypse. Not having duplicate communities in Reddit and all power concentrated into one mod group or even worse one person is what attracted me to Lemmy in the first place. Not all, but from what I've seen, former mods from Reddit tend to have the entitlement of my community should be the only community.
I made a single comment asking how someone can be anti-trans and a fascist boot licker but also a star trek fan.
Guess who I asked.
that is a stupid question, but is ridiculous to ban someone for.
Thanks for asking. I have the same questions!
I guess we know the answer
So you called them names and they kicked you to the curb? Shocking development
An old .world account that got turned on after Patrick had his shitfit, and defends Patrick. Hmmm...
He just can't help himself! No matter how many times he says he's quitting the platform, he's back before you know it. It's hilarious how transparent and obvious his alts are.
It's one thing to have an alt, (I do, and I intentionally block my account and all politics/negative things to keep space, it's more for looking at memes and making them), its another to pretend it's not you and defend yourself.
The way he uses these alts is very Reddit-like, keeping them dormant until it is time to wake them up to sockpuppet. He has to invent false users to side with him because he's utterly alone otherwise and he can't handle it. Nobody else sees him for the last bastion of Lemmy sanctity and purity that he thinks he is.
How many differently named alts is it normal to have? I could accept like, one or two for safety reasons (never want to connect too much info about yourself). But the known ones (Admiral Patrick, ptz, Kirk) plus all the others who feel suspiciously strongly in favor of him despite being almost entirely inactive is for sure suspicious. Like… whatcha stockpiling all those for, man??
If you're doing app development you tend to aquire accounts - straightforward things like testing interactions between users in different conditions means you quickly wind up with a spare heap of them. It's why pretty much every open-source crashout like this has the same period of rooting out alt accounts and "randos" coming to defend a dev "they" like after being inactive for years.
I think by the time you hit 5 you need a long hard look in the mirror. 1 for NSFW stuff you don't want to associate with your main is normal, 1-2 for breaking up information or other stuff. Then 1 more because I'm sure there are other reasons. But 5? What are you even doing at 5?
weird amount of those lately...
It's not name calling when it's what they do.
That was my first instance. Turns out it's the star trek has gotten too woke kind of people running it?! Ah well, llap 🖖
Yeah it's a real shame that st.w is run by Section 31 and Admiral Leyton.
I think they actually use star trek as a cover to find leftist and trans people to add the to their list
Report to your nearest Starfleet officer if you're aware of anyone queer or has communist sympathies, Admiral Patrick McCarthy needs your support to Make Lemmy Reddit Again
Yeah, my opinion of leave other people the fuck alone was too extreme, got me on the list, which i found hilarious.
I had forgotten the reason the .website was first formed, and then some of the posters returned to .world later. I wonder if there is anyone out there documenting all the different lore bits.
Well, I'm the one who caused the exodus from Startrek.website so... if you've got any questions, just ask.
The tl;dr was thus:
ST.W was made in response to redditors leaving reddit. It was created, and is run, by the same moderators who created and ran /r/StarTrek. Those moderators have a metric ton of drama surrounding them on reddit to the point that Star Trek fragmented into a hundred different subreddits to avoid being associated with what everyone was considering toxic moderation. Even toxic by reddit standards.
So when startrek.website started, the same behavior did too. Curtailing opinions is a big one. [email protected], one of the admins, literally cannot help himself. He's a diehard defender of the newer treks, much like I am, but he takes any slight against the show as an active insult. Where I will only remove things that are categorically false or dogwhistle-type homophobia/racism, he will remove anything that is negative about the newer shows. He will tell you to stay on topic or be positive and refuses any negative coverage.
I first joined startrek.website as Stamets (although I was on lemmy before that) and started posting. Things were going well until I started seeing posts removed from their Star Trek meme community for nonsense reasons. I asked the admins what was up and they handwaved away the abuse from the moderator of that community (USS Burrito Truck) and their own abuse. So I left startrek.website and set up TenForward on lemmy.world (something I've left for [email protected] although I've been very inactive for the past month due to life). I sent messages to the other big posters who were active, friends of mine by that point, asking if they'd want to join me on TenForward. They said yes. By this point, nothing was really posted publicly by me save for a comment or two around the time I left. Those comments were removed/deleted.
The first couple weeks went by smoothly for the comm but not for me. ValueSubtracted started reaching out to several admins of different instances, asking them all to ban me from their instances. Those admins all reported it to me like "What is his problem?" and denied him. So I made a post on Mastodon saying that people should consider staying away from startrek.website due to some odd admin decisions. Within 24 hours I had gotten an email from my mastodon instance saying that there was a report against that post and I needed to clarify it with my admin. I gave her the information and she said the report had no merit and dismissed it. But it was clear who made the report.
We then started getting reports on TenForward for every tiny comment and every tiny post, accusing the community of causing cross instance harassment that was directed towards them. Most of these comments were passively talking about what was going on. There was no hate or harassment but the reports were coming from ValueSubtracted and were overloading the report section. Like maxing out the character count.
I asked him politely to stop several times and he kept doubling down and refusing to stop. It was at that point, realizing he wouldn't stop until he was forced to, that I made a giant post about it. Included all the screenshots of the private messages he sent me, the reports, the insane shit, everything. Proving conclusively that the level of harassment they had risen to was going across multiple websites.
That post was lost when I deleted my lemmy.world account. Or so I thought. Someone sent me the internet archive page for it yesterday. So if you're curious yourself...
I'm struck by incompetent of moderators they must be to think these attacks would work
It's pathetic. They tried the same thing again a few months ago when I made another post updating their sketchy behavior. They're so predictable that I used the phrase 'scorched earth', quoting VS as probably saying thats what he was going to do. Little did I know until after was that he did use that phrase. When I quoted him for it, he lost his fucking mind and had a meltdown in the matrix channel before leaving in a huff.
Well, now I know what kind of person enjoys Star Trek: Discovery lol
I do too. Careful lol
So when do instances start defederating startrek.website since they clearly want to be alone?
lemy.lol has announced to defederate 30 minutes ago and is currently defederated.
And much respect to them for how they handled this/themselves.
Remember kids, wishing death upon mass murderers makes you just as bad as them actually.
Edit: to the coddled, enlightened brunchers incapable of reading the room, itching to have their righteous moment under my comment: next time the IDF starts randomly airstriking the shit out of my quaint little (Christian no less) town, I personally invite you to join me for coffee and contemplating mortality on my veranda. I’ll be so impressed by your opinion on the lives of the people who are dropping WAR ORDINANCE around you and consider me a terrorist because of where I’m from (and you one for sitting for coffee with me). It’ll be so inspiring. You’ll love it, I make decent coffee. Wouldn’t that be fun.
Remember adults two wrongs don't make a right
Memes aren’t facts.
I don't know the exact scenario being referenced above, but personally I don't believe in the death penalty for anything. I truly believe people can change and be reformed. Not that everyone will, but everyone can be. Death robs of any opportunity or hope.
I also understand there is a lot of nuance around this conversation. I don't judge anyone for believing differently, as long as its for good reasons.
These cope huffing losers aren't going to listen to reason...
Pure projection, Patrick.
Wishing death upon others makes you a bad person. People don't like to be around others who wish or encourage harm towards others. That's why dbzer0 was defederated and will continue to be in the future. Don't like it? Grow up, and stop wishing people to die loser!
Just like Hitler, there are people the world would be better off without. Or are you saying you think Hitler should have been spared from his fate.
Hitler killed himself or would've been killed as part of war had he resisted arrest. Extremists encouraging citizens to murder people as an act of vigilantism is not the same as military actions necessary to win a war.
So being in a class war with the epstein ultra wealthy pedophiles that do terrible terrible shit everyday ruining the lives of everyone on this god forsaken planet doesnt count? Because if we dont win this war one way or another the whole earth is fucked.
So you think framing the current political climate as something it isn't (a war) is justification to launch physical attacks on elected officials. Ok sure bud. I won't visit you in prison though.
Even if you tried id deny seeing you. No one likes boot licking fascist simps.
Ok sure. Whatever you say bud. If me being against murder makes me a "fascist simp" I would hate to know what being against sex crimes makes me in your eyes...
Out of curiosity what app do you use? For whatever reason I've never been able to get .gifs to upload (work in comments) using Jerboa.
Boost.
GIFs often fail to upload due to size restrictions of the instances we use. When that happens, I upload to imgur or catbox and embed the link instead.
Voyager
I've noticed that when you copy-paste a gif it ends up with only the first frame as a still image, but if you actually save it as a .gif file and then upload it, it works.
This is with either the default web UI or Voyager, BTW.
You can just link to a GIPHY image using the !(link) markdown syntax.
Ex: Terminator
Glad I already deleted my account there. And blocked the instance.
Shame, but I'd rather not be around members of a fandom that actively support shitty and shady practices like that, and I sure as FUCK don't want an admin that's complicit
[email protected] for your meme needs
I mean at least it is an instance doing the defederation and announcing it publicly (so people who don't like this can leave). This also makes a great example for people who don't understand the difference between banning lists in apps vs instances.
I'm not surprised. They were shit mods back on reddit and continue their shitty ways here in the fedi
Is this the same Star Trek instance that had some huge drama with The Picard Manuever (? Maybe it was someone else?) that led to a user exodus? Or a different one?
Idk probably, the admins and mods over there are always power tripping about something.
There was also the whole Stamets writeup last year about their bs to
God, Stamets must be sitting there giggling into their icecream rn. Canary in the coal mine
No ice cream, alas. Wouldn't mind some though. But giggling? Yeah.
Absolute legend, and a great guy!
Love ya homie <3
I always knew Stamets was a good egg.
We all knew Stamets was right just not HOW right
I mean I had screenshots ;_;
Obviously shopped to prove you were right since you didn't have the evidence yet /s
Stamets! That’s who I was thinking of.
Damn, Lemmy needs a c/LemmyDrama comm, I can't keep up
There used to be lore but they closed up shop almost a year ago iirc.
I guessed I'd be seeing something here with the bans and removals that started cropping up in that thread...
100% PTB. Just removing anyone who is pointing out that its related to tesseract, a total lie, etc.
What an asshole
Love it 🙄 Just deleted my account there, fuck those assholes.
Make you worse, you you wish death and they don't wish it they do it.
Gonna need some clarification on that sentence.
They dropped the s off "makes you worse"
Yeah I failed a sarcasm... I wanted to show that wishing harm is seen as bladder than killing people
Oh piss off
;-}
Go to sleep, it sounds like you need it.
I'm probably bladder than you. Or am I? Wait, what does it mean?
I think he meant badder than anus people.
Punishing the victims? really?
Who are the victims in this exactly? Aren’t we being a little loose on the definition?
The victims of an illegal computer attack, you dingus. Are you unaware that Admiral Patrick set up his instance to DDOS db0?
EDIT: This user is an alt of Admiral Patrick, so he's playing dumb.
I'm willing to bet he's an admin or mod on there 🤣
When I read the summary of the rant he made about "leaving" first thing I thought was "sure buddy". There's no way someone like that doesn't have at least one alt, if only for testing development of their program.
Who knows how bad the infestation is of alts.
You'd think they'd keep a lower profile after breaking a federal law in the country they're in.
hes [email protected]
Fortunately he’s comically bad at sockpuppeting and he’s all over these posts that are mocking him, on multiple alts, so you can just peruse and make a list if you like.
Absolutely. The batshittery that's happened there in the past is a smaller scale mirror of what's going on now
And now the whole thread is deleted.
Only locked after sanitizing. And conveniently that’s the only place they stated they’d talk about it. Convenient that literally no one from their instance got to comment before its removal.
Looks like its just locked to me
Ok this is getting beyond "i h8 j00" territory and starting to sound like a spurned suitor boiling bunnies. Patrick. Patrick. You will find love. But not like this
What is the suggested star trek community to use?
[email protected]
[email protected] or [email protected] if you're avoiding .world
Thank you!
You're very welcome 🙂
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I saw that one, but the posts are from 6 months ago.
Scroll down, those are pinned.
Last post is from ~2hrs ago.
Get on the good foot and do the bad thing! (by bad thing, I mean steal all their content and repost it on Risa!)
I have my own opinions worth posting. Discussions and defenses of modern trek as well as an opinion on the writing that is more than just 'they went woke'
Tenfoward is my usual go to but i gotta find an alt since it's on .world
Risa had some batshit drama of their own
I re-made Risa but on dbzero. ![email protected]
I just havent been very active the past month or so due to some life shit
You know, I'm just realising that maybe AdmiralPatrick might have a bit more in common with his name sake than I originally considered. It doesn't make what he did okay. -Like the augments trying to give classified war plans to the enemy- but it does reframe it a little bit. pure speculation on my part but curious. Tenforward was my fav too but I'm settling into this account before I start making another alt.
My big fat autistic arse with regulation issues is looking at him going "what a wretched cunt"
yeah, he was def playing a bit more like Jack than Patrick
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That one also hasn't had anything posted in a while though.
I guess someone needs to create the Star.trek lemmey instance
Man I don't even know what instance I'm on. Is there a good instance?
Most are fine, there are a few right wing instances that crop up but most instances defederated from them fairly quickly (unless you're on an "as long as it's not illegal" instance, which include dbzer0, Lemmy.zip and lemmy.sdf.org)
The ones that are somewhat still federated but best to avoid are the ones known as the Tankie Triad, Hexbear Lemmygrad and Lemmy.ml.
Hex and grad are fairly widely defederated from, including your instance, because of their tankie authoritarian ideology (Supports and defends authoritarian countries like Russia and NK (they'll spread propaganda like Ukraine deserved to be invaded by Russia and it's not even Russia invading but "liberation")). Lemmy.ml tends to not be, because they try to keep it more subtle, there's this mega thread that documents it. It's lemmy.ml centric, but general rule of thumb is that whatever Lemmy.ml does hex and grad are known to be worse.
Most other instances are fine, .world...is just too big and that "power" has tended to go to their heads sometimes, though I will say not to the mass degree that Lemmy.ml does.
Oh and startrek.website is pretty shit, but you could tell that from this post LMAO
I'm on one of my alts because my main instance (.today) had a hiccup - which rarely happens. Maybe twice in the last year, if I recall correctly.
I've tried five different instances. Lemmy.today doesn't defederate from anyone so you can see the whole lemmyverse and curate your experience from there, instead of having admins decide what you should and shouldn't see. The rules are standard but lax, bigots and abusers still get banned, but it's largely up to the mods to watch over their communities.
Alternatively, if you like a healthy, pre-curated experience at the other end of the spectrum, you could try Beehaw. They're more focused on creating an engaging, well-moderated, welcoming community.
You're on Lemmy.world which is a very large lib instance (very dem friendly, but highly sanitized). They have defederated with the leftests (hexbear.net,
Lemmy.ml[the Lemmy dev's home instance], and lemmygrad.ml) over "extreme views" andthe anarchists (Lemmy.dbze0.com) over piracy support(oh my mistake, they just blocked all piracy communities) long time ago. I'll let someone else explain the flotilla.As for good instances, it depends what kind of experience you want to have. Why isn't there an instance test yet?
nah, scare quotes can naff off. Hexbear was dogpiling like crazy and .ml is just...IDK what they're doing over there but everyone's banned from it.
It's not scare quotes, I'm representing that this was .world's view.
And what hexbear was doing was interacting with the common reditor refugee after interacting with nothing but their leftest instance for years. It was a clash of cultures, and I think the right thing happened. I think that's the great thing about the fediverse - being able to decide (as instance, comm, or user) who you interact with, which was what the tesseract dev was taking away from people.
Agreed.
Hexbear was never federated with world, to paraphrase worlds words they were "preemptively defederated as a last resort"
World has never defederated from lemmy.ml, partially because they're the dev's home instance.
You're right. Its been so long since I've been on .world that i forgot. I think its also because so many comms are on there too if I remember. I should have known though because I see .worlders in YPTB complaining about .ml sometimes.
I still get lemmy ml , maybe because I'm on sync, but I've blocked it several times.
There are dozens of us, but we all have a least 5 alts. EDIT:There, not they...
Feeling a lot better about being banned from there.
As you should.
Lol
LMAO
I want you to point out exactly what sentence I said that supports me promoting and encouraging harassment lmfao
The "you" in this case is dbzer0 as a whole, since it's about defederation.
I want you to point out exactly what sentence we said that supports us promoting and encouraging harassment lmfao
I have no idea what all this is. But you YOU are an insufferable twat. So if you are here repping your favorite instance... I'm gonna start thinking Star Trek folk might have a point, as Star Trek people tend to.
Nevermind that the whole federated thing was obviously going to blow up eventually anyway.
As an outside observer, only one of you looks like an "insufferable twat" right now, and it isn't him.
I want you to point out exactly what sentence we said that supports us promoting and encouraging harassment lmfao
Ctrl c
Ctrl v to you too
Lmfao
Try again.
Eugene: "can you back up you claim in any way, shape, or form?"
You: "no. u. lmfao."
Oh, ffs. Are you six..?
What violence and harassment? Surely you'll give proof this time, Patrick.
You're posting about db0 in MWOG over this
and trying to get sh.itjust.works to defederate.Posting about users on MWOG is actively calling for harassment.The projection is real.
*edit Already deleted the defederate thread. Get wrecked.
Patrick is really trying to use anything he can to look like a victim here.
I deleted it. Will try again in 1 week per your advice to wait until things "calm down" won't make any difference. Startrek.website defederated for a good reason. Others will follow.
Good lord dude, stop huffing your own farts and touch grass. You fucked up and got called out. Be the bigger person and move on, like the adult you claim to be, instead of whining at everyone on all these alts.
In case the many, many, many posts and comments all across the fediverse haven’t made it clear, no-one is impressed, and no-one likes you.
Who's talking about me across the fediverse? I haven't seen anyone talking about me, other than the few people who reply to me.