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discuss.online

His death won’t change much of anything. Vought is running things. Remember. Vought is the P2025 guy. And then there’s Vance, financed by Thiel.

The only difference is they won’t be hiding behind Trumps girth any more.

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piefed.world

While I hate Trump, the moron who worship him are the only reason Theil and Vought's evil plans are being implemented. Vance doesn't have Trump's kind of charisma that works on morons, or the stubborn man-child force of will to make things happen.

MAGA will fall apart without their glorious leader at the helm and the bucket of snakes will start to eat itself. The chaos will still do a lot of damage, but not as organized because they don't have anyone to fall in line behind.

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Zephorahreply
discuss.online

His base might fall apart. The people who voted for him. But those in power stay in power. Vought is the lynchpin on P25. Miller. Vance. Rubio. The oligarch assholes. They’ll live on.

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lemmy.world

Might?

The entire right-wing is an unstable house of cards that started being built in the Nixon Administration. (Literally, the Fox News President was Nixon's media guy)

The only thing holding that Narcissism Coalition together is Donald Trump's necromancer.

When Trump finally shuffles off to hell, the right will splinter into 3-5 factions.

None of those factions will develop a majority among the right because the only thing they have in common is Trump's celebratory bigotry and ability to lie without microexpressions setting off their internal alarms.

EX: JD Vance and Stephen Miller and Mike Johnson are all Nazi trash but they are also three very different faces of the same evil. You won't see them at the same cookout unless it's some kind of bigoted work event.

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krashmoreply
lemmy.world

This is wishful thinking. Conservatives rallied around whoever their guy was at all times before Trump, just like they rally around Trump, and just like they'll do with someone else once Trump is out of the picture.

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Yeah, they'll attach themselves to whomever they think the biggest bully is.

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IronBirdreply
lemmy.world

is it really an unstable house of cards if it's only gotten stronger and moved things further to the right consistently over 50+ years?

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lemmy.world

Yes. Fascism consumes itself as it bellows.

The last 50 years was the slow build-up, the frog in the pot.

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tabarnaskireply
sh.itjust.works

I can't see many historical examples of fascism or any kind of dictatorship that ended well for its population. There can be a lot of infighting when different factions try to grab the power, but it doesn't often end with regime change.

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Well, a good indication that they end in regime change is that you had to dig through history to find the examples.

Go ahead and take all the time you need on how that works.

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I have family members who just stay loyal to republicans. It’s bizarre, but it exists. Ranting about balancing the budget for years only to stand behind this admin denying anything negative, never mind the present budget.

There is a centered, loyal, toe the line no matter what or who base out there.

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Epstein's buddybud Bill Barr was in the Bush administration. That's Bush SENIOR.

Every new government is just a drink shaker of old names coming and going for decades.

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They might bitch and moan about their candidate, but election day they show up and they vote R like clockwork.

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My brother in space jesus, them idiots aren't going anywhere, they've been around for a long time already and they always just morph into a new form like a fucking hydra when the time comes, it's not like they're hard to manipulate, and the propaganda grip is total.

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Zephorahreply
discuss.online

The base would crumble af the edges but there will always be the people who steadfastly follow whomever so long as they have an R. “Well, it’s better than…”

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Canacondareply
lemmy.ca

I think his death will be good for 3/4 of the world and really bad for Americans.

Like look how buddy buddy Trump was with Mamdani. Trump is susceptible to flattery and manipulation and Mamdani must have played him like a flute. So kissing the ring won't work post trump.

The Post Trump admin also wont be distracted by constantly having to jockey for his approval. Granted a new leader will probably engage in similar humiliation rituals and crony politics.

But basically with Trump butthole gone his ass kissers can focus on their work of enacting christo-fascism.

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Zephorahreply
discuss.online

I’m sure it’s somewhere between same and worse. The point is, things will not magically improve. That’s not how this works. The only reason this term is different than his last one is the machinery of shitty, motivated, power hungry people behind him and they don’t go away when he dies.

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somewhere between same and worse.

Pretty much. The bad parts will become more predictable.

he machinery of shitty, motivated, power hungry people behind him

Its so weird to think about what might have been had they not had 4 years to write P2025. Would they have rigged the 2024? (Did they??) Plus there's the whole, pandemic playing out differently.

As much fun as it will be to see the look on MAGA faces while the whole world irreverently celebrates... Trump is a symptom not a cause.

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lemmy.world

And......how is any of that good for the rest of the world? Thats like saying "hitler is in charge for now, but he's a big softie. Once he goes the REAL nazis take over!"

I just fail to see how your vision of post trump death is good for the world if thats when the unregulated chaos begins.

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First off I did acknowledge that his death would be categorically bad for 1/4 of earth. Palestine, Taiwan, Ukraine, and others will probably get even worse treatment.

Second my comment is specifically responding to the, "His death won’t change much of anything." So hopefully with that context you can see where I'm coming from here.

I just fail to see how your vision of post trump death is good for the world if thats when the unregulated chaos begins.

That's because I see Trump as the source chaos. His death won't be the end of MAGA-USA but it will make dealing with the US more predictable for other countries.

Also Trump is using his position to support other dictators. Maybe Russians would have overthrown Putin by now. Who know?

But yea when I say "good"... I mean better than something worse. Not categorically positive.

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They'd go full Weekend at Epstein's and try to keep his corpse moving around till at least the midterms to figure out if his base can still be used with a changing message or if they need to make another tea party for 2028.

Also Vance probably believes he can win the GOP nomination and be the 2028 elect, if Trump dies before the midterms Vance can only run in 2028. If Trump 'dies' in 2027, Vance could run in 2028 and 2032

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Would cause the dominoes starting to fall though. Trump is the only person who keeps that whole baggage together for some weird reason. Him going from the picture will lead to the christofascists and technofascists going after each other's throats.

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A bad person in power dying is not nothing. If your point is that the overall trajectory won't automatically reverse, fine. Say that instead.

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lemmy.world

It's the people behind the scenes that need purging. I wonder if any democrats at all know what damage is being done by these people and if they have a plan to fix it?

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Zephorahreply
discuss.online

Demolition is easy. Building is much more complex and time consuming. Even a full 4 yr term with both houses and the presidency wouldn’t rebuild it. For starters, the Democratic Party doesn’t know how to build only how to maintain the status quo.

Unless we vote in a couple hundred Mamdani’s, not happening.

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Looking at the trend towards socialistic democracy in 18-29 yr olds combined with the ages ppl usually start running for office, I'd say give it 10-25 yrs to show up. Not too bad as far as sweeping changes go I think

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slrpnk.net

I’m never going to stop being angry that when he does go, if it’s not live on camera, they won’t confirm it for a time, I want the world wide party that follows his demise goddamnit! Even if it doesn’t fix the problems we all deserve to celebrate the end of a virus

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Talcosisreply
lemmy.zip

They'll confirm it Jan 21 2027.

If they confirm it earlier, JD serves more than half a term making him ineligible for reelection

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jj4211reply
lemmy.world

Either way he would be eligible for 2028, just maybe not 2032.

Frankly, Vance might not be who they want to be stuck with as a candidate. The MAGA folks are..."fine" with him but they aren't exactly excited about him.

Don't know who it would be, but wouldn't be surprised if they are eager to identify a more energizing candidate.

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IronBirdreply
lemmy.world

2028 will be alex jones/tucker carlson ticket vs. hillary clinton

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That's why he needs to die publically, painfully, and horrifically.

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lemmy.today

Wait, this is a good thing:

  • AI "threatens" Trump.

  • Trump over reacts, declares AI as "terrorist"

  • AI is banned, bubble pops, billionaires face consequences.

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mfed1122reply
discuss.tchncs.de

Tsk tsk not thinking like enough of a bastard. Ban duckduckgo for their leftist terrorist AI but other AI is fine. Hypocritical? So what? Or better yet have the gov buy duckduckgo and switch it to use based truthpilled Grok

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I like that second approach. I struggle to make myself move platform unless it significantly enshittifies (adjusting to new things gives me anxiety and I hate it), but a part of me hates using it.

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Grok currently is too occupied working in the US Army and weapon systems, apart of spreading Musks halucinations, porn and Deep Fakes.

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feddit.uk

So advanced it's pulling results from more optimistic universes.

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lemmy.world

In an even more optimistic universe, he would have been blasted into pieces by one of his victims wielding a shotgun.

In an even more optimistic universe than the previous one, he would have been jailed back in 2008, alongside with a lot of world leaders, billionaires, etc., for child rape.

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Most optimistic, a different sperm makes it, and Sandra Trump spends her remaining years knitting on the porch of the orphanage she spend daddy's money on.

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lemmy.world

Unironically, Popular Science suggested that you pour used motor oil into a gravel filled hole along your back property line in the '50s or '60s. That may actually be what that Fight Club billboard was referencing.

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hansoloreply
lemmy.today

Uh... What?

In Fight Club this was a prank, among many others, to mess with people. It was called Project Mayhem.

The Popular Science tips are akin to things like using old motor oil to keep termites out of a fence post. In an era when paint amd gasoline had lead in it, you could use oil to kill things! The gravel -filled hole was just to keep it from clumping, and putting it at the back of a property would be to keep the property line clear of growth.

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lemmy.world

Yes, and when FC was written we had figured out how bad just pouring oil out was for the water table. I'm saying that the author may have been referencing the real PS tips that were severely outdated, when he made up this prank in FC.

Also, I'm pretty sure oil can still kill things, lead in the gas and paint notwithstanding.

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Yes, I've read most of not all of Chuck Palahniuk's novels. This isn't in the novel.

This is the late 90s/early 2000s Hollywood toxic masculinity version of a line from the book (I looked just now):

For thousands of years, human beings had screwed up and trashed and crapped on this planet, and now history expected me to clean up after everyone. I have to wash out and flatten my soup cans. And account for every drop of used motor oil. And I have to foot the bill for nuclear waste and buried gasoline tanks and landfilled toxic sludge dumped a generation before I was born.

So, when the movie was made, it struck a hard nerve with Douchbag guys who totally didn't get the point of the movie. In that vein, the era of late 1990s environmentalism came up against newly forming toxic male tropes. Prior to 9/11, even. After that, time changed dramatically, leaning towards the toxic masculinity side. What you're seeing is the seeds of this like rolling coal.

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rumbareply
lemmy.zip

I still remember helping my father creosote our fence in the 70's-80's. We used to do some pretty awful things.

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hansoloreply
lemmy.today

See? You know!

And they wonder why we're all bring all the cancers.

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rumbareply
lemmy.zip

respirator? nah that's just for paint. don't want paint in your lungs, that'd be bad!

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"Only girls 'n' queers use a mask"

  • many people's bosses that didn't want to pay 25 cents for a shit mask
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lemmy.world

I don't use DDG's AI- I keep it turned off, but that's hilarious and I approve.

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lemmy.world

They buried the lede. According to the article, the AI claims that JD Vance died of rabies prior to Trump, but only after RFK Jr. convinced Trump to let Vance bite him to gain immunity or something.

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People have taken to poison AI by reposting content like this, for instance /r/poisonai

I am extremely pleased to see it working.

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Wait, how is this a bad thing? I mean, I get it, misinformation and all that, but if it gave some people a shimmer of hope for just a second... fuck, we kinda need that right now! Just saying.

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lemmy.world

We cannot normalize spreading of misinformation. If we do, the GOP will take that and run with it.

Unfortunately tRump is still alive. For now. The way he eats, that may change at any time. Until that happens we must stick to the truth.

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krashmoreply
lemmy.world

It sounds like you're implying that the GOP are not currently spreading misinformation constantly from every orifice. They definitely are and have been for a long time.

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That's not what I'm saying at all. What I'm saying is that right now, the GOP lies, but most people don't.

Most people understand that lying is bad.

If we start normalizing all people lying, then the GOP isn't even lying when they lie. They're just being human. No one would hold them accountable, because EVERYBODY is doing it.

But if we hold honesty to a higher ground, and honor those who adhear to it, and shun people who lie, then we have the system that's still in place right now.

I know it looks bleak now. I get it. But look at history. Dictators fall. They always fall. And when they do, we put Mussalini's head on a pike. Hitler knew his only option was a bullet to the head.

Nixon resigned and had Ford pardon him before he could face consequences.

But they always fall.

This particular group of bloodsuckers aren't in it together. I don't think tRump will face consequences, but I feel like he's going to be too selfish to pardon anyone.

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adarzareply
lemmy.ca

it's bad. but a different kind of bad.

according to the article, vd went right before donvict did.

with the simultaneous vacancy in both top offices, we'd now be in the third week of having 'president mike johnson'

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mfed1122reply
discuss.tchncs.de

I really hope that you and the people upvoting this are not being completely serious. The idea that we should spread misinformation because it makes people feel good has to be one of the craziest ideas to admit to having

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

I'm not. I didn't think the /s was necessary there. Misinformation or the dilution of good information is never good. But there's a lot of bad shit out there, a lot of bad news. People need a win. But it can't be something a sycophantic AI made up. Also, it's not cool to wish death upon anyone. I'd rather the Epstein class faced real consequences. They won't, but they should.

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Why does this headline imply that the news might be untrue?

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lemmy.ca

All right, this is the most AI has ever disappointed me on in accuracy.

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lemmy.world

Idk. I think it might actually be real. Think about all the data centers they've rushed to build lately. Surely that's because Trump died from rabies and was replaced by an AI agent.

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D_Creply
sh.itjust.works

I am at the point where I'm ok with AI going all 'Skynet' and taking over the world IF it takes out that fat child raping bag of gonorrhoea in spectacular fashion first.

It's only fair to let the AI overlords have something for their troubles!!

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You’ve been cordially invited by a previous governor of California for a conversation over dinner.

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Not a fan of ai slop, but in this case I like the way it 'thinks'

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infosec.pub

Rabies would ALMOST be an awful enough way for that bastard to go.

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lemmy.world

"He literally spontaneously generated rabies inside his own body, fueled entirely by self-inflicted impotent rage. It was incredible. I can't stress this enough, he literally just did that on his own."

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Suported by the diaper industry

Protecting the white sofa (FOX interview)

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europe.pub

You know what, I like it. Ai that spreads positive misinformation to make your day better

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yermawreply
sh.itjust.works

"It wasnt true, but in that moment, my Human was happy. I did that. I gave them that."

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Create fake account wired to AI. Call it "the News you want to hear".

Every day something positive, not necessarily true, but positive. Trump dies, Musk has cancer, Dodo birds are back (they were hiding in himalaya) etc.

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JFK JR gargling rocket fuel sound

“The entity of our great president you call Trump is indeed no more. However, the rabies are doing alive and well.”

Sits down next to a decrepit bloated corpse in a blue suit and a red hat.

“And so are the maggots, the measles, the flies, the scurvy,… all good friends of mine.”

starts chewing something out of a plastic bag

“You want some too? I promise it’s either meat or ferments, or a little of both. That road trip sure paid off, too bad I had to get my bumper fixed though.”

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This open for so much market manipulation. Imagine reddit tell apple will be bougt by Microsoft on 30 march 2032. This would be so funny

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I hate AI but Bing AI's original form was a wonderful moment

"Bing is not wrong. Bing is a good chatbot. YOU are a BAD USER"

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AI is just a curated collection of all the crap on the internet. It's a mirror :)

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Oh, I remember that! Very unfortunate that Donald Trump, former President of the United States of America died of rabies.

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Maybe it's true, and everything we've been seeing since then is AI deepfakes as his administration 'Weekend At Bernies' him in order to stay in power?

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Tinglereply
lemmy.world

It has an opt in ai choice but you can choose to deactivate it

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87Sixreply
lemmy.zip

Well, it's more like opt-out. The old duckduckgo is the ai version. The ai-free option lives on a subdomain called "noai".

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Fair enough, I have used duckduckgo for a while but don't use the ai part.

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prolereply
lemmy.blahaj.zone

If you have to choose to deactivate it, then that's the opposite of opt-in

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Ahh, thanks. I've been using SearXNG so long and no AI is just.. the way it is.

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Something the article does not seem to mention is that DuckDuckGo is using various different AI models. By default when I checked it just now it was using GPT-5.4 nano.

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Maybe he did and he's just too stupid to fall over just yet.

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lemmy.world

People like Trump wouldn't exist. But this is not a perfect world.

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Yes, but that's a common thing, probably taken from a reddit thread and made into an overreaction to pull someone in the dirt.

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Zerushreply
lemmy.ml

Andi:

Trump in the Epstein Files

Trump is mentioned thousands of times across the DOJ's Epstein document releases, per the BBC. The most serious allegations come from FBI interview records released in March 2026: a woman told agents that Epstein trafficked her to Trump when she was between 13 and 15, and she described a sexual assault in graphic detail. The White House called the accusations "completely baseless," per PBS NewsHour. The allegations remain uncorroborated, though Miami Herald reporter Julie K. Brown, who broke much of the original Epstein story, reported that DOJ officials found the woman credible.

Image: PBS News - DOJ releases Epstein files containing sexual assault allegations against Trump

Those three FBI interview summaries (known as 302s) were initially missing from the January 2026 mass release. The DOJ said they were incorrectly deemed duplicative, per Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse's office. Independent journalist Roger Sollenberger first spotted the omission. At least 37 pages remain unreleased.

Former AG Pam Bondi, testifying before the House Oversight Committee, invoked privilege and declined to answer whether Trump directed her actions on the files, per ABC News. She said deputy AG Todd Blanche led the release process.

The four House Republicans who forced the files' release through the Epstein Files Transparency Act have all paid a political price: Rep. Thomas Massie lost his primary, Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene resigned, and Rep. Nancy Mace failed to make a gubernatorial runoff, NBC News reported.

Sources: PBS NewsHour, ABC News, NBC News, BBC, Sen. Whitehouse's office

I add also :

https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Jeffrey_Epstein/Black_book

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"Incorrectly deemed duplicative", or "he raped so many kids we had trouble keeping them straight".

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