'Abhorrent' step-incest porn to be banned with up to five years in prison
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When banging your step mum is legal but watching a fictional video of someone else banging their step mum is illegal ๐คช welcome to the UK ladies and gentlemen.
It's legal if you submit your ID to the government and have it recorded in the masterbaitorbase that you whacked off to that video. What, don't make it weird... /s
"Oi! Yew got a loicence fer that Stepmother? Roigt, oim gonna ave to clamp those jugs untill such toime as that courts decoide"
Diabolical.
That's just gonna be the plot of another piece of porn specifically produced for the UK
Ted Cruz is a good UK Citizen now?
Fighter for liberty?
That bitch didn't even fight for his wife.
Be sure you don't call a genocide a genocide. Wouldn't be proper.
That would legally be "supporting terrorism" and socially be "anti-semitism".
Well, it's not really different to supporting a genocidal fascist dictatorship and declaring everyone who supports their victims "terrorists"...
The world is an idiocracy and the majority of humanity are mentally ill. The world would not be as fucking stupid and insane as it is if the average person was logical.
FTFY.
But what about if you need to evidence that you had sex with your step-mom, you know, for the normal legal reasons?
I say, a discrete bit of buggery is one thing but enjoying itโฆ thatโs another! /s
To be fair, the headline is overblown since they are banning step-incest porn where one of the individuals is pretending to be underage.
Which begs the question of "what do they mean by pretending to be underage?" I seriously doubt any of the actors are going to claim to be underage in the video as that would get their videos removed from any mainstream platform. Another user suggested that this is based on body type meaning petite actresses are going to be the ones targeted as being "illegal" just for existing as they are despite being of age.
Yeah, it looks very vague and possible targeting videos that don't exist, have no effect and still give Starmer a political win?
Starmer could use it but his reverse hand of midas is going to turn it to shit no matter who.
If they ban Vina Sky, I'm going on strike. If they don't, I'm going on stroke
if a 90 year old lady puts on a twintail wig and wears a skirt she's going STRAIGHT to jail for 5 years, god bless the
queenkingBanning porn where the actors pretend that what they're doing is almost illegal is wild. What's next, prison time if they say that one of the participants is just over the age of consent?
Nah, I want to know when they finally ban the really vile stuff. You know, all those murders on the screen in, oh I don't know, 70% of all fictional works?
That they seriously consider step porn as worse than murder shows that it is all about control and not about morals.
Talking about banning porn is just outrage porn for those for and against it. The point is to drive home surveillance state and most importantly drive discussion away from things that actually matter and the people in power desperately want people not to talk about or take notice. Modern liberal politics is very much an art of pretending to do something when actually doing nothing and just acting as the guarddog of even decaying society that has been politically hermetically sealed for the benefit of the top 1% funder class.
They need to have some violence in media, how else would you recruit tomorrows policemen and soldiers.
dont you mean brownosers and cannon fodder. also add in a little, degrading education standards, and funding helps.
No, it shows their morals are different than yours (and mine).
A key clause not included in the headline and only briefly mentioned in the article is that this doesn't ban all step-porn. It only bans the step-porn if one of the actors pretends to be under 18.
From gov.uk:
(edited to update link)
Isn't an adult pretending to be a child in porn already illegal? That seems like something that would always have been illegal.
It sounds like that was not actually illegal in the UK, based on the article. However, I am not a UK resident nor expert in porn law.
In that case is it still legal if they're not pretending related? Seems that would be the bigger fish here.
At least according to the article, the law does not appear to address that.
yea that is considered CP, maybe its different for each country.
That seems like a weirdly specific way to just say that age of consent laws apply to the stated ages of the actors. The UK's age of consent is 16, or 18 if the other person is in a position of power (like a step-parent is).
You know, when politicians doth protest too much I begin to wonder why they doth.
Britain + Some early 20s girl shouts "I want you daddy!" to some late 20s guy = Jail!
The Coalition of the Geriatrically Sexless proclaim the following:
obviously banning fictional depictions of attempted murder
masturbation in porn to be made illegal, or jerking people off.
STRAIGHT to jail.
Doubt.
Generally, the effect of all the "for children" laws and parties etc is exactly the opposite.
Obviously the best thing the UK government can do to protect women is
a mass purge of the corrupt justice system that let rape cases go entirely uninvestigated for at least a decadeban stepbrother incest porn.I don't really get this. If the characters in the production are adults and not blood related how is it different than roommate porn?
the UK loves to control adults. they banned face sitting porn. there was a law where you a had to ask your ISP to allow you to see adult content (with the default being off). but I'm not sure how/if it was enforced because I lived there when they made their law and had no issues.
Well, it kinda makes sense. If you allow people to simply watch face sitting porn from the comfort of their homes, how are they supposed to sell the public the licenses required to face sit in real life?
Oi mate do you got a cunnilicense for that?
Well Uk citizens will just use a VPN (until the government tries to take that away too and fails miserably). This is just ridiculous do real politics instead of this bullshit
Is this related to why all uk sites ends in .uk? I have always wondered.
that's how domain names work.
And Spanish sites have .es
every country has they own domain
I know, but the uk ones don't work like the regular ones. Like abc.fr is the french one, abc.co.uk is the uk one
no idea why some countries have a ".co". too busy to figure it out, but if anyone knows please tell me
Are the royals still allowed actual sex acts with their blood relatives?
And children too it seems?
yup, liz and phil were cousins.
The performers may be adults, but it seems the key thing is an assertion that one or more of the characters are underage.
Which seems easy enough, two 18 year old step siblings. In fact, I don't know how often they ever explicitly state an age for a character nor anything that would definitively make them underage otherwise.
yeah im not big on fiction being censored. granted though in the modern age with computer graphics and ai it sorta gets wierd since its possible one could not tell. still with obvious classical style art it should not matter or with scripts or whatever. I mean there are a few well know porn actresses that are small and lithe and their schtick is generally a pretend to be underage. You 100% know they are adults becuase of their fame.
The logic of the people pushing this is all stepbro porn is asserting they're underage because if they're stuck in the same washing machine then they live together and that means they're under 18 because British housing is very affordable. The British ban on face sitting and squirting porn got overturned with a ruling that you can't ban porn of anything that's legal irl. So now they're looking for things in porn that they can construe as irl illegal to try to find something they can ban.
Someone needs to get up in Mahmoud's face and say "You know what's really obscene? Selling weapons to someone committing genocide! And kowtowing to a murderous, kleptocratic nonce and nonce-protector as well."
I wonder if they'll ban sofa-fucking porn too, or if they're too scared of Vance to even try.
Personally I really dislike it and how ubiquitous it is just because the topic creeps me out. Which isn't to say that people putting something on the internet that gives me the ick calls for arrests, court proceedings and prison time, the judicial system should not be for micromanaging how people masturbate, and it shouldn't be that hard for people to accept that it's just none of their business.
the implication
dah dah dun!
I never understood this whole step porn thing, but this is ridiculous lol
Yeah.
I donโt get it, itโs weird, but is it 5 years in jail weird? No.
it's taboo. that's all there is to get.
taboos are sexy.
It's not about the actual relationship depicted. It's that it's forbidden. I doubt 99% of the people actually would want to bang their step-sister, or step-mother.
It cheap to make. The "story" is simple but explains why these two people live in the same house without it being incest.
It's also really efficient, setting up the entire relationship with just the word "step-bro". Plus, it's taboo enough for the characters to say "we shouldn't", but not SO taboo that the viewer thinks they actually shouldn't.
I think a subset of people like it, and the rest tolerate it. So, if you label every porn video as step-someone with step-other, you serve both audiences.
What I have a hard time wrapping my head around are scenarios where step-dad, step-mom, step-sis, and step-bro are all going at it in the same scene. Under what circumstances do these four people live together?
it's porn. it's not supposed to make any sense anymore than Marvel movies are. it's fantasy
I think I understand what you're saying. I hadn't considered that the steps may be from different multiverses.
It's easy marketing. Convenient situation, taboo, but not too taboo. The line always seems to be "but you're my stepsister" "yeah, STEPsister, not real". So it's wrong, but not that wrong. The multiple people scenario is just ramping the taboo up, but not worrying about relationships after the video. Real polygamy is complicated and probably not as successful as porn depicts it. (and that's ignoring the step situation altogether)
I say probably only because I'm sure there are some out there that work. But to have three or more people in a long-term working relationship without costs has to be rare. Just having something like a work relationship between a few people can be touchy, and that's without feelings and sex involved.
Yeah, that just sounds like regular porn but with extra steps.
That's my understanding of why it's so common too.
Though I suppose there's some reason for concern, if you're really opposed to the concept of it. I view it sorta on the same spectrum as things like 'facials' and how wildly popular those have seemingly become -- a filming norm from a long time ago that mostly aimed to show/prove that the guy had cum, turns into something people do regularly because they'd seen it so much in porn. Same for things like anal, or many of the more mainstream fetishes/content -- it becomes largely normalized by its prevalence in porn.
Sorta like how that Dingus guy, Mayor in Ohio, got caught sniffing his step daughters panties. Dude prolly thought it'd be the start of a raunchy good time, where she catches him and then admits her lust for his old flabby limp dick dad bod.
The problem there isn't the porn, it's morons thinking porn is representing reality.
Representation matters, even in fantasy. Just ask Disney, JK Rowling, right leaning "It's ok to be white!" advocates and left leaning "More brown Mermaids!" progressives. Though they may disagree on who should get represented, all parties involved generally agree that representation seems to matter a whole lot. To say that it doesn't, only in the realm of (generally) cis men, would seem to me like discriminating against men -- not allowing them the same social courtesy/context for forgiveness as women and other groups.
What the fuck are you talking about? What does this have to do with pornography?
Ok, an ELI5 for you since you seem to need it:
Human beings on aggregate are dumb monkeys. When human see media depicting dumb monkeys doing something, many humans are inclined to try doing same thing.
Slightly less ELI5 -- groups that advocate for things like representation of minorities in media, typically argue that negative representations of ethnic minorities results in increased racism in the general public towards those minorities, as well as the internalisation of those negative stereotypes by minorities. If, for example, black people are only ever shown in media as being gangsters and drug dealers, more black people will lean into that sort of marginalized/negative 'professions', and non-black people will have an inherent bias against them due to the prevalence of the stereotype. If they're shown images/media that shows black people in positions like doctors, lawyers, politicians, etc, then more black people will aspire to emulate those images / move into those fields, and other people will be more accepting/less prejudice against them in those positions. Similarly, if men are shown a ton of step-incest porn, or porn that depicts violence towards partners, they're more inclined to do those things. Step-incest is generally a huge negative outside of the fantasy realm, as things like a step dad + step daughter is pretty damn close to rape in many situations. Sorta like landlord porn -- these things are not ok, but they get normalised through porn and then re-enacted by dumb monkeys like that idiot Ohio mayor or the dude on the cruise line who sexually assaulted and killed his step sister.
The significance of representation in media is basically an established concept. Left-wing sorts want more diverse representation because it leads to more equitable perspectives in the broader community -- Right-leaning sorts often argue against more diverse representation as it chips away at what they consider 'social norms'. Neither side argues that representation doesn't matter, but rather, about who should be represented.
To pretend like this sort of thing doesn't also impact porn, and/or to say that men are just idiots if they emulate things they see in porn, is to go against the idea that media representation matters, and to turn a blind eye to the stats that show these things DO impact dumb monkey behaviours. And to ignore this aspect of media, just in the case of men's sexual urges/porn, is to do so in a way that disadvantages just men, placing all accountability onto the individual man, absolving the system/norms that have facilitated those negative activities/actions. When black people in the 80s were depicted as stereotypes, it was part of what's generally termed systemic racism, which fed into a cycle of black people embracing those stereotypical professions. We don't tend to hold individuals solely accountable for issues stemming from systemic wrongs. So why would we put all the blame on men, in cases when they've been shown step-incest porn, for emulating the tropes they've been taught in step-incest porn?
Besides, porn writers have just been lazy as shit in over-using that trope. You've got sites just reshooting the same boring tired-ass scenes with different shitty actors going through the motions, and hitting pretty much all the same poses and dialogue check boxes. Demand better from your pornographers. Hell, if pornographers were to routinely show more realistic pickups / ways to meet women outside of just "I live with you because we're sorta related, oops my dick slipped in!", maybe there wouldn't be so many incel boys who can't figure out how to approach women.
Hard disagree. People are responsible for there actions. Not the media they consume. We live in the real world with a multitude of influences to teach us how to act right. Media is fantasy, you can derive inspiration from it but it's not a guideline for behavior. Literally talking to a single individual woman should be sufficient to show a rational individual that pornography is not depicting real scenarios. Millions of people are watching this shit and there's a handful who are a problem and is there actually even a direct link between their actions and having viewed this shit? People have been sexually assaulting their children and subordinates for as long as there have been people. Assholes are always going to be assholes.
It's also probably relatable to a significant portion of the audience. I wager a fair number of people have experienced a relationship or wanted a relationship stemming from that situation.
Through no choice of yours or theirs, suddenly you are spending a lot of time with someone. From some perspective 'relatives', but pratically speaking you have a stranger who is your age move in and you are both 15 to 17 and things happen.
I had a not-blood relation suddenly happen when we were both sixteen, and we ended up dating for a bit. A bit more removed than 'siblings', but close enough to spend a lot of time together.
I'm sure that's partly true. In my experience, that's just most of what's tagged as "reality", so any other situation with anything resembling a storyline takes digging. No wonder I couldn't get into it.
They're not just making it though. They're renaming all the porn to have incest titles, whether they have anything to actually do with incest or not, it gets more clicks.
The headline makes it sound like they banned the whole step porn genre, which seemed super ridiculous to me too.
Buried in the article is says:
You guys in the UK better burn any copies of Game of Thrones you might have around. The show wasn't that good as to be worth the jail time.
On a side note, is the UK alright?
No, the UK is not alright. They've been banning a lot of stuff lately. And I mean a lot. It's comparable to even the Deep South of the US, and that's hardly an exaggeration. The worst part is that most of it seems to truly be a bipartisan effort.
It's "bipartisan" because we live in capitalist dictatorships, and the fascist oligarchy have given their marching orders to the politicians they own.
@WhatAmLemmy Go eat some tofu.
Ingsoc is already here.
You can just say US at this point lol
That's just bollocks mate. What have we banned? Porn needs ID, yes that's puritanical, but nothing a VPN can't sort. We are NOTHING like the deep south.
Banning the step-sibling porn is weird AF, granted, but beyond poorly conceived and weirdly puritanical porn rules, I'd much rather have Keir in charge than that decaying, semi-literate lunatic half the US inexplicably worship.
The concept of privacy on the internet for one thing. VPNs as well, or perhaps that was only an attempt. ID verification to go to Wikipedia is an interesting idea, that, funnily enough, I can't say that even Alabama has done.
I remember reading a while ago that, because you can't have full incest in porn, the Game of Thrones porn parody (or, at least, one of them) was LESS explicit than the show.
And no. No we're not. I doubt many places are.
Wait... Are you implying that incest is actually banned in porn, and that's why it's always step-relations? I thought it was just because the majority are disgusted by incest... I don't think actual incest is even illegal in most places...
I decided to look it up, just to be sure. Specifics vary based on where you are, but depicting anything too extreme is generally gonna be illegal. Even if it's legal in the bedroom, it's not necessarily legal in porn.
Heck, I'm British, and the age of consent is 16. It's 18 in porn, though.
@WhatAmLemmy It is in some jurisdictions. Because porn is a for-profit business like any other, they don't want their product banned or blocked if they can avoid it. That's the financial incentive for step-porn. For users, it's either 'close enough' or its own fetish.
No, the UK is not alright. They are worse off than the US, less the blowhard leadership. As of yet.
That's just because the favored style for populists in the UK is "posh twat" rather than "loud blowhard", making them a lot harder to spot unless you're familiar with British (especially English) culture.
Ha ha, I see those motherfuckers, or magna carta fuckers as the case may be, how do we make the voter see it?
No one here is building concentration camps or deporting natural born citizens lol, but keep telling yourself that.
dont forget BREXIT, they seem to be slow-walking to fix that relationship with the EU.
Absolute nonsense. I dislike our government but all the other alternatives would shift us further right. I'm not a fan of Keir, but he's pushed back on Trump's mad war and, in terms of policy, Labour is the UKs most liberal mainstream party.
That is what the controlled opposition tells you to throw the game to fascists. Which makes you how do I say this, I don't want to say a tool, but kind of.
Haha, fuck off mate.
You are the one that should be fucking off with your Embrace of the controlled opposition leading us to a doomed to fail strategy fighting under people that will not win, are not trying to win, or not on our side, and they want to destroy us. How fucking stupid do you have to be to not realize that yet? Mate.
I mean GoT is horrible garbage, but that's independent from this article.
Game of Thrones was awesome, the last season was garbage I will give you that.
Fucking Martin, still waiting on winds of winter, that fat fucker is going to keel over before he finishes it. He's not even trying.
Yeah because showing kids being raped as a love story is amazing.
wtf are you on about? You cancelled game of thrones? No one told me, and I will not go along by the way, this is why everyone hates us, you.
Yeah... ask the Lannisters... and I'll leave it at that.
Edgy!
Just another moral panic to allow the Government to continue to lay the ground work to take away rights.
A country with what remains of a monarchy banning any kind of incest porn is justโฆ wowโฆ
Irony has been institutionalized.
The only porn allowed in 10 years will be of people getting fucked by the government
This needs to be a T-shirt.
What are you doing in my room, step-MP?
Haha no. Government will ban that as well
Oi bruv where's yer wanking loicense?!
The role of the government is not to decide what is abhorrent and what isn't. The role of the government is to ensure protection of human rights, provide healthcare, run schools, build infrastructure and so on.
Consenting horny adults being horny with each other and doing horny stuff to each other does not violate any human rights.
The British government can go fuck itself.
This reads like its only banned if someone also pretends to be under 18?
IDK but I thought porn depicting minors was generally banned in most countries?
don't know if porn depicting an adult pretending to be a minor actually qualifies, but that feels like an extremely thorny topic.
Eventually a line needs to be drawn. I think that publishing porn of any sort that flirts with cp is not acceptable, step or not. Same for loli anime content or the whole doll bullshit : if it looks like a kid just donโt.
All the rest if fine as long as itโs consensual.
@a4ng3l "What I personally approve of is acceptable and should be legal. What I personally DISapprove of is NOT acceptable, and should lead to people who didn't actually hurt anyone suffering consequences."
Congratulations. You're an authoritarian. Go find your nearest Deform office and sign up.
Just remember, if authoritarianism is ever outlawed, YOU'LL be the one in the barrel. Don't complain, though: You already petitioned for that outcome.
Yeah no, my opinion is based on work I had access to in the line of internet censorship handling as someone working in an ISP. They had pretty compelling reasoning related to how this fuels the tendencies of pedo towards actually fulfilling their deviance. You can read about that online, thereโs a lot of supporting evidence of such a link. Also it is such a weird hill to die onโฆ
I would like to see the evidence, since this argument of "Watching X causes X" or "Playing videogames with X causes X" comes up again and again and is debunked every time serious research was done into it. It would be very surprising to me if this one was somehow an exception. But if there is good evidence of causation (not just correlation) then I can be surprised.
Thereโs materials already from Wikipedia in the sources linking to articles about that position.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_status_of_fictional_pornography_depicting_minors?wprov=sfti1
There are both reasonings described and the one supporting the regulation links to studies and further opinions.
I suspect there wonโt be evidence in the scientific sense for this - itโs a very opinionated field and not a very researched one.
I just note that it was sufficient to align most if not all European ISPs and content hosts that these measures were not unreasonable.
Yeah there is substantial evidence that pornography does infact promote real life sexual activities. For instance , anal porn was very popular in the 2000s-2010s.
Many women reported being pressured and coerced into engaging in painful anal sex by partners who saw it in porn and wanted to do it, regardless of the negative effects on their partner.
http://metro.co.uk/2017/07/18/teenage-girls-pressured-into-painful-and-coercive-anal-sex-because-of-porn-6788524/amp/
"Why Women Engage in Anal Intercourse: Results from a Qualitative Study" https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4379393/ Actual research article. Peer reviewed.
And then child pornographic depictions in manga and anime absolutely fuel child abuse in real life.
Here is how sexual arousal and gratification work.
People get fixated on things that turn them on. Sometimes to the point that it's the only way they can become aroused or reach climax.
"Sexual Infantilization: The Peril in Consuming Little Girl Imagery" https://scholarworks.calstate.edu/downloads/0z709415n
When they fixate on things like incest or lollies (girls), they then seek these out in the real world.
They don't think. "Nah I'm only into incest and kids when it's fake".
Quite the opposite. They go looking for the real thing.
I'm not against porn. But I am against porn that normalizes abuse. Incest. Rape. Child sexualization.
Because it absolutely does promote these things in the real world. You can argue all you want that it doesn't but there are decades of research tracking trends that shows it does. People even often started their interest into that type of sexual area by first seeing pornography of it.
'Porn, Power, and the Brain: Pornography scripts shaping Gen Z's neurodevelopment, objectification perceptions and political beliefs" https://leadershipandsocieties.com/index.php/lds/article/view/221
There are reasons why things like smoking in movies were reduced. Because it promotes smoking while downplaying the negative effects.
Life immitates art.
So anything even vaguely resembling scientific evidence (Japan statistics) disproves it but people have opinions so let's censor it... Yeah, you are not helping your case...
"Depicting" a minor means giving the impression of a minor.
So here in Australia I think even say hentai depicting a person viewing is likely to conclude is a minor, would be illegal.
This is the sort of stupid shit you get when you vote for right wing whack-a-doos.
Sad thing, that was supposed to be the left wing party. Corbyn was an open socialist.
but they had a huge antisemitic campaign that ousted him for his support of Palestine and turned the Labor into a clone of the Tories.
Somehow, Israel is always to blame.
Israel is the bleeding edge of colonialism in our modern era. So almost every fucked up situation circles back to them evetually
the most annoying part is that Israel took all the antisemitic conspiracy theories and made them real for Zionists, then ensure all the world blames the jews. They are the leading source of modern antisemitism. like even the most deranged antisemitic concepts like blood libel was made true by organ stealing (Knesset admitted it in 2006)
Yeah, im ethnically jewish as well as romani and indigenous to turtle island. Im all too familiar with the games this empire plays and the damage it causes. I pass as white, so i also hear some of the most fucked up racist things from people who think im one of them.
Jewish here too. and Zionism is and always has been antisemitic
Fr has done more harm to the jewish diaspora than nearly anything else in modern history
they literally helped Nazi circumvent boycotts. the end result is that zionists fled and bundists were genocided.
Zionism hurting jews isn't an understatement.
Don't think so little of your fellow man.
Stupid people who already have antisemitic tendencies might go full mask off, but most can make the distinction.
I violently hate zionists but never will I hate jews.
I don't even consider zionists jews, they have lost that right.
These guys were in a square a street from where I live, how can you not love them?
There is no left wing, anymore.
I mean looks at Carney in Canada...
Here in the US you have AOC and Bernie both supporting Israel during an active genocide. Not really in-line with their alleged allegiances, is it?
in the UK, the greens are likely to win next elections, and they are proper left. like anti Israel left
Would be nice, I think I might be able to flee there, having Iceland be the best bet isn't so good with how expensive it is and how little opportunity is there.
The most interesting thing about this is the fact that step siblings can have legal relationships and even marry under UK law, but depictions of their very legal sex lives are now illegal.
I think someone might challenge this as a human right to expression infringement.
For instance, you and your partner happen to be step siblings, but want to generate income on onlyfans. Now you can't. Not because you are defacto doing anything illegal.
Also, and here's where it gets fun...
Imagine you and your partner do make sexy videos but then your respective parents hook up.
The videos were made when you were not step siblings, but now you are.
Where does the law stand there? No one knows.
Be even worse in a few years when the paltry votes they scrounged up with this move are long forgotten and the law continues to punish and hurt people for literally no justifiable reason.
I guarantee we are but months away from a senior labour politician resigning because they are found to have incest porn on one of their devices.
I'm literally saving this comment lol
Ah thus is about the porn nobody is actually a step sibling.
This is essentially my understanding of the origin of the trope. When I was growing up, both me and every single kid I knew's parents were already or in the process of either getting a divorce or remarrying.
So situations like Clueless and Drake & Josh were the norm, and it makes the trope all the more hilarious.
Well how could it not be? Genetically it's just two random people, what would be the basis of making it illegal if at some point your parents hit off?
Teenagers having sex is legal, sharing pictures of it is not.
A person presumed to possess the legal capacity for consent cannot have sex with a person presumed to lack that legal capacity. The teenager is not restricted; the adult is restricted.
When a camera is added, the law becomes inconsistent. The minor lacks the capacity to legally engage in sex, but is now (potentially) culpable in their own exploitation if they video themselves.
As always, the first computers you should check when anyone tries to ban consensual porn that harms no one, are the computers of the ones proposing the ban.
Or nothing if you are an elite!
Remember Prince of the Nonces, Randy Andy is only under investigation because of alleging leaking confidential information. Nothing about being a child rapist.
Or all the other Epstein accomplices (minus Maxwell) are getting away for their crimes.
The last time an elite pedophile faced consequences in the UK was when the IRA blew up Mountbetten
And Jimmy Savile. All the BBC knew about it and not one of them bothered to speak up until he was dead.
Last Podcast on the Left is discussing Saville right now and not only did the staff at the BBC know, but also police, reporters, mayors, government administrators and more. Everyone was completely fine with what he was doing just so long as the money and attention kept rolling in.
If you are rich and important, laws are just suggestions at best.
For everyone, get fucked.
I heard him referred to as The Loch Ness Noncer and now I can't not call him that.
Or 8 years in a presidency.
8 years.... so far.
- Homer
We're talking about Brittain idiocy right now. Not everything needs to be about how much more idiotic the US is.
They can always run to shitrael where they are welcome
Thou doth protest too much ๐
What are you doing back there, step-government?
Washing my money ๐
hes stuck.
Fine, call it royal-porn.
That's real incest though
Unlike royal incest, porn incest won't breed itself into a genetic deadend
Oh no! How will I ever know what to do when my step-sibling is stuck in a washing machine?!
Seriously though, while it is definitely weird when an adult pretends to be a minor in porn, is it really 5 years in prison weird??
Like are we really going to put people in prison for pretending to do something illegal when we already have a problem with huge delays in court times and severely overcrowded prisons?
I'd much prefer the limited public resources go towards locking up actual pedos than people fetishising them.
Help me Step Big Brother! I'm stuck with my government in my bedroom!
Stay tuned for more porn advices from your government
Stay tuned for more control of your private life...
That's it folks, step incest is violence against women and girls. Next up, in order to further protect them, they'll be prohibited from going outside without a man by their side.
Whoever asked "What's next, BDSM?" - guess what
The only silver lining in this whole thing is still only in "planning"
This is the hill they die on? This is the issue they threaten to revolt for? Not properly funding the NHS or something else that benefits people?
there are countless thousands being massacred around the world, there are people starving to death, there are soooo many problems, and this is what we're focusing on? JFC. Fuck you starmer
its a distraction from internal/foreign problems. it always was, its either this or anti-trans legislation.
I may be stateside but i'm still amazed that a party that's supposed to be truly left-leaning is putting out alt-right policies in the U.K.
thought theyโd kicked the Puritans out centuries ago, but no
Oh come on. The behaviour of the US leadership over the last 6 months cannot be upped in terms of stupid.
It certainly would have been. 4 years ago I'm sure this would've been headline news lol
How so? We pushed back on that moronic cult leader that somehow has half the US in his thrall.We have socialised healthcare and a welfare state and we don't have mass shootings.
I don't really think losing underage-presenting incest porn is the smoking gun you guys think it is.
Don't get me wrong, it's a silly step and is another example of Keir pointlessly trying to woo a right wing media that fully despises him and has shareholder interest in his failure.
If he would just fucking wake up and learn that he doesn't need to dance to their game, as proven by his popularity boost for not sucking Trump's dick over Iran - despite the hate he got from the press.
The Criminal Justice bill is 30 years old and was Tory legislation. I remember marching against it at the time, and I've attended countless raves since.
This wild idea perpetuated in the US that we live in some sort of Police State is absurd. Source: me, my friends and family and almost everyone I know who actually live here.
Keir was one of the few who (finally) stood up to that blustering man-child that you guys have. Labour are far, far from perfect, but to say they're more right wing than UKIP is a seriously odd take.
Borther 30 years 60 years, it does not matter; you are sending swat to raves literally this week. under labor, for a law written by monty python that literally criminalizes every single march or statistically every group of 20^2 people walking in any given space..
It's not the US, it's the entire rest of the world. All europeans make fun of your prison island. Heck the only reason most European countries interacted with you all pre-brexit was because you were on the right side of WWII... eventually.
Are you quite a police state? You are the closest thing one could describe as a police state, from prison time for criticizing the government, saying the UK shouldn't participate in a genocide, to not being able to buy a butter knife without ID.
The only thing you are missing is harsher punishments for your ridiculous 'crimes,' but I think that might actually cause a revolution in your country.
Keir is a blustering man child, and a genocidal monster.
And no, plenty of leaders have stood up to Trump, the UK was slow on the uptake to that but the world has been resisting Trump.
UKIP does not support Israel's genocide, somehow. The Labour Party, after removing all the progressives and socialists because of 'antiemitism' does. Actively endorsing and participating in genocide makes you more right wing that just planning and endorsing one.
Whatever man. I live and work here, and my lived experience couldn't be further than your selective hyperbole.
That's about par for the course.
So far, the current UK government seems to realise they've lost their voters; thus they're trying to appeal to the opposition's voters.
The trouble is, no-one really wants censorship laws save for small (but vocal) pockets religious nuts masquerading as feminists.
We've normalised "if you are against x, you are a vile monster" kind of thinking; and thus we are now facing sweeping censorship.
Classic double-down strategy. Can't wait to see how it works out for them.
They split into two disctinct groups: authoritarian feminists, and religious nuts, some of whom pretend they care about women, while at the same time campaigning to deny them their rights.
What a colossal waste of tax money if it actually goes through... They're gonna feel silly when they realize none of the people in the films are actually related and porn is just fantasy. I suppose is these people understood fantasy they wouldn't be religion simps though.
Every few years politicians throw a Victorian fit and demand to cover up flag poles or some shit
Bwahaha
Labour had a historical chance after the Tories have fucked it up so much, and they're just doing shit all the time
Hopefully the Green party can save UK
From my own experience living in the UK (as somebody from somewhere else in Europe who also lived in a couple more European countries), Britain is hugelly Moralistic, sorta like Southern Europe 50 years ago before Universal Education when those countries were very religious.
The thing is, Southern Europe has actually moved onwards from that decades ago, as religion's power weakened thanks to high levels of Education amongst the young, whilst in Britain there were a few decades with a bit more moral liberalism which was just about enough to make homophobia socially frowned upon and to make homosexual marriage legal, but no further, and it all seemed to be anchored on who it is or not socially acceptable to shun for their sexuality, so nowadays you get self-proclaimed Feminists in The Guardian (so, supposedly the most liberal people in the most liberal newspaper) with opinion pieces outraged about for the (I! Kid! You! Not!) use of sex dolls by men, with not even the tinyest bit of self-awareness about how that's exactly the same kind of article written about homosexuality a mere 40 years ago only about some other sexual practice that hurts nobody.
Unsurprisingly, that country has even slid down to transphobia in recent years.
So in present day Britain things having slid down so far that there's a moral outrage for some kind of sexual roleplaying or other and a weak and desperate hard-right "center"-"left" government enacting legislation with actual prison time for it, isn't too surprising.
In the XXI century, Britain is quickly passing the most backwards countries in Europe, accelerating towards its "golden age": the Victorian Era.
Is it a crime to fuck your step sister and step mother?
I see the US and the UK still battling it out regarding who the bigger idiot is
Can't wait for the day when brainscans for wrong think are invented because it's going to be some crazy shit with UK legislation
It's exhausting. Every single time there's so much as an article about "Keir caught picking his nose", you get a barrage of echo-chamber 'Muricans in the comments pointing going
"HA! SEE? YOU GUYS ARE WAYYY MORE FASCIST AND DYSTOPIAN THAN US!!! USA, USA!"
As if we're also being hunted by ICE for sport lmao
It's just projection (and the inability to think about any country besides their own for 5 minutes)
So when are they jailing the pedofile child torturers
As a furry, this is uh, worrying.
Really glad we're not in the UK. Though uh, not like the US is much better at this point... but at least the US has the whole "everyone understands that the current government is going on a series of ridiculous power trips" going for it, so they're less inclined to just think "ah yeah, throw all the weirdos in jail, totally normal!".
(I'm not into incest, but I am into completely different Weird Shit.)
-- Frost
Honestly even explicit content aside, I'm afraid of being lumped in with some group that's staring down the end of the barrel. Even though furries seem valuable to STEM jobs, the large LGBT presence and general 'weirdness' make it seem easy for us to be given some degenerate label.
"First, they get into being furries, then it's yiffing, and the next thing you know, they're having sex with animals. Will nobody think of the foxes and pandas?"
No one here thinks that aside from the government. From my understanding there's already statewide bans for porn in general across the US for all platforms refusing to comply with ID verification mandates.
I definitely wouldn't rank the US as superior in this situation.
Why is your political class in the UK even discussing such nonsense? If no harm is done, let people jack off to whatever they please.
I'm glad politicians are spending their time solving the biggest problems we are facing.
The west has fallen
Finally.
MPs, of all people, have no fuckin right to act all holy about porn. They are depraved weirdos, the whole scabby bunch.
Just reminded me of this incident - it's a Tory, not labour, and many will be too young to remember, but I recall it being funny as fuck. The article neglects to mention that he was hanging in a cupboard and also had an orange full of poppers in his gob.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/february/8/newsid_2538000/2538165.stm
There are many, many more recent stories of debauchery amongst the bunch of wankers who rule over us, but I felt this one exemplifies the lot
I blame Game of Thrones for this.
abhorrent step incest porn, sure ban it, but what about good or hot step incest porn? We all know what that is when we see it, right?
And if they want to add a prison scene to the end of thos step incest porn films those pornos then fine. Sounds pervy to me, but I dont judge what other people do in their bedrooms alone that doesnt hurt anyone because thats none of my fucking business, or anyone elses. People (and governments) should just leave other people alone unless it directly affects others.
Starmer seems like a moron with this move.
What are you doing, Step-MP?
If thatโs what it takes to finally temper the step porn category then so be it. /s
Slippery slope and all that but I guess this specifically applies to someone pretending to be underage, I'm pretty sure that's already illegal in the US as is.
It's also illegal in Australia... but in practise the "appearance" of being underage is very dubious and destructive.
According to the law, all women with a certain breast size are pretending to be minors.
Hey, what a valuable initiative. I mean, itโs not like there are any real problems in the world...
...if there really were, that would just be a distraction...
...and that canโt possibly be the case...
/s
Why the Epstein scandal is Keir Starmerโs most perilous moment yet after chief of staff resigns
Really tackling the tough issues there. ๐
The royal family is a product of actual incest.
I wonder if "royal" porn will be a thing after this.
Just start using prince and princess instead of step bro and step sis.
If you yell loud enough about this being an abomination, you seem more virtuous.
Truly the Anglo-Saxons are a bane to the world.
Everytime I see Anglo-Saxon's mentioned I just think of the Macemen Mercs from Lords of the Realm and get an itch to play it.
I played the shit out of Lords of The Realm 2. The music and voiceover was magic.
Prison just sounds like a new place for the step sis to be stuck in
Stop having mixed families, then. You can't stop sexual development from shaping itself around the environment its in. Gonna ban bdsm as well? Fury porn? Trans porn? Anal? Whatever other sexual adaptations your fucked up culture results in? Probably not, considering their british. Fucking asshats. Your culture is the cause and repressing it just does more damage. But hey, maybe the Brits are particularly sensitive to incest given their aristocrats history with it.
I've noticed over the years, that the british legislators seem to be overly obsessed about porn.
Obligatory Dan Bull: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTeENEQkBKE
The moral police that funded and pushed the anti trans narrative weren't going to stop at being anti trans.
Soo, UK goes all batshit puritan now?
I'm just happy they're out of EU and not voting on common policy anymore.
You do know where the original puritans come from right?
You know why they went to the Colonies? They weren't welcome here. They'd previously been hiding in Amsterdam from the Stuarts but were kicked out of there and ended up in Plymouth (Devon, not Massachusetts).
Someone check in with any step relatives he has, this smacks of projection
Great, now everywhere else is going to be overrun by british porn-tourists, locking themselves in their hotel rooms for their entire stay, looking to masturbate to lame incest porn.
Serious question: how can anything step related be incest? I thought an incestuous relationship required blood relation.
Incest is strictly about blood relations. The step-sibling / step-child porn genre is shorthand for fantasies about getting it on within the cohabitative family or close neighborhood. While there have been some movies that have explored actual incest (porn or otherwise), usually blood incest is regarded as a much more serious matter.
IRL, relationships between steps are verboten not because of the problems with breeding risks but because of how it complicates familial dynamics. It's the same reason fraternization within military units or within work groups is restricted, or at least frowned upon.
Really, we're still expected to ride on a raid to another tribal settlement and kidnap one of their coming-of-age womenfolk the way Hades abducted Persephoneยน Modern alternatives such as singles bars and mixing parties continue to prove wanting.
ยน According to the late Hellenic mythology -- Persephone is queen of the underworld before Hades was ever around, and her abduction is more about pissing off Ceres and justifying why she's sad every six months so we have winter.
"What are you DOING, step-mom?"
lol.
"Step ladder, no!"
Surprised they're outright banning it instead of requiring a license
Tackling the most pressing issues of our time!
What the fuck is going on with the UK?
Isnโt incest not even a crime?
Meanwhile, incest is legal in France, for example
Weird world we live in
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legality_of_incest
Dan Harmon on incest porn
I'm personally not a fan, and yeah there's a bit much of step this and step that in all categories but banning a type of porn is ridiculous
See, incest is what they hit on Steam, too.
I don't get it, despite finding this to be pretty disgusting myself, with all the horrible things happening they focus on fantasy while pretending reality is not so much more vile.
Ah yes, because fictional scenarios of incest relations might as well be engaging in the real thing. If even the Epstein class says it then surely it must be true.
Not incest. Step relations are not blood relations. The parents marry and combine their existing families.
The article is referring to step-incest relations.
Which aren't a thing.
Two step siblings have no legal relation as far as I'm aware. It's just two people who's parents have married. There's nothing stopping them having their own relationship.
If you're concerned about non consensual events, that's just plain old sexual abuse and rape. That's completely different.
Well either way, my point is that engaging in fictional scenarios isn't the same as acting them out in real life. Anyone who gets their sexual morality and ethics from the Epstein class shouldn't be taken seriously.
I agree with this sentiment and the concept of 'step-siblings' may work as expected when the kids are like 5.
But if they are instead late teens, well, the parents should be realistic about what happens when you put generally horny strangers under one roof... It should be a risk factor that weighs heavily about joining your families in one household.
Sounds like someone got caught watching step sister porn, and is now throwing the weight of government behind his shame.
It's the UK government, their digital crimes division is basically 2 men in a shed
This is basically a rule that will not get policed unless they wanna find an excuse to fuck over a dissident that they can't find any other excuse to put in prison
Lmfaoooo
Seriously of all the porn kink that can exist why is the one about fucking your family the most popular in certain countries? It's just Your relatives are basically the only person you shouldn't fuck, why them, that just seems gross and mentally unhealthy.
What about NOT step family member fucking NOT step family member porn? ๐ ๐
(EDIT: I make jokes about common porn tropes, but after reading the article, it sounds as though it's aimed specifically at step family porn has an underage/child role-playing element)
Political virtue signaling.
"We're not pedos!"
Us: Then go after the pedos?
Them: No
I wonder what genre they'll do next?
Britisher is Squicked, Panics
Starmer is a fucking tosser surrounded by nonces.
What, where? IS? Now a morale police to check your internet connection?
How about we pray that the person who introduced that law and people who made it official, die in a horrible fire?
This is nothing to do with actual child abuse or real incest porn, and they know it, this is the next step in their war against VPNs and those circumventing their internet "age" real ID checks.
This will give them what will be an ever expanding big stick to clamp down on anybody they cant force to use their ID checking system, anybody using smaller providers (VPN or Porn) to avoid the checks will be suspect of criminal activity and will have equipment seized.
The first step was to push the larger providers to comply or get out, the next step is to start to tackle the smaller providers and consumers who at least want to try to stay legal.
Its never about 100% success with clamping down, its about getting the majority to comply and having useful tools to deal with those who do not, especially as they now stand out far more.
Inb4 the film Clueless is banned across the UK, lmfao
While it's odd to me that incest porn took off so much these last 15 years, the government doesn't have the right to do such a thing.
I remember browsing porn a long time ago, 15 years or more maybe, and finding otherwise good porn that was under the incest, stepmom kind of thing, it was mostly russian then if I recall, but now it's everywhere. I hardly watch porn now but when I do browse it, it's everywhere now.
My theory is they relabel the same porn to catch different low effort fetishes. I have seen the same porn labled or titled such that it suggests different scenarios. brother/sister, dad/daughter, husband/wife, husbandbestfriend/wife, etc.
so now I can fight back against those limey bastards by responding with incest porn?
is this like the 1989 tiananmen square hack for the Chinese?
Labour not burning piles of political capital on ridiculous pet issues challenge (impossible, any%):
Starmer is a knobhead shooting the Labour party and voters in both feet. He's currently attempting to mimick Reform and Greens to win back votes.
America first! Yes! Finally, one little bit of fun goodness...
AOk: guy sticks this enormous rod into an available orifice on his partner.
NOk: guy sticks this enormous rod into an available orifice on his partner, and says "I hope daddy already went to work sis"
You heard 'em!
I don't know why we have a giant "incest porn" machine, but I suppose every dog has his day.
flips switch
to overdrive
Its like all the porn, sometimes the star is who ya want to see who is even following the plot or title?
Kier wants to fuck his stepmom? Or does he prefer the nanny(state)?
Hahahaha
Abhorrent ? I would at best call it "annoying" because all porn sites are flooded with it, but abhorrent ? It's legal to actually do in most countries, INCLUDING the UK ๐
Actors. Theyโre paid actors. Itโs fake.
But movies full of violence, gore and high bodycount are just fine.
As long as they don't ban just vanilla incest porn we're good, fellas.
10% of me expected the announcement about naughtiness to turn into an adult movie at the end.
I don't understand, do they mean they are ok if it is under 18 but not incest? Is that where they draw the line regarding underage porn?
The last lines of a drawing depicting a person stuck in a washing machine is completed
Door gets kicked down by heavily armed tactical police men
Including possession? What will they do, demand all users in the UK to unlock their devices for regular content scans?
Step incest is a non-thing. It cannot be incest if you're not closely related. You could call it sleeping with someone who lives in the same house perhaps, or screwing people who used to be strangers, or boinking those who are related to someone that married into your family, but that's all.
What the absolute fuck dude.
I'm not enjoying my preview of Mark Carney tbh.
This is the UK. What's Carney got to do with it?
He was governor of the Bank of England for a while, so he's not totally unrelated to the UK.
Not a political position. He actually tried to warn against Brexit.
12-step programs in shambles
Finally! Most overused trope in history.
Watch for Will Ferrell's "Blades of Glory" to be burned by mobs. /s
I'm not seeing the problem here
STRENGTH through UNITY | UNITY through FAITH
Edit: Come on people V for Vendetta? No? Seems relevant.
Gtfo
So many people in the comments are asleep at the wheel.
Porn showing characters that are related having sex
Porn showing UNDERAGE characters having sex.
That's it. That's all this stops.
Which probably is already illegal in most places
This will stop very little to no additional porn according to what was said.
It's NOT a ban on showing step porn, only when one person is under the age of 18.
This solves maybe having. Some law to help prosecute things that are likely already being prosecuted but will do nothing to stop what has become popular.
Controversial take: good.
Its way too prevalent and very weird. I guess it gives a great way to segue into the porn with setting up elaborate or ridiculous plot.
The normalization of having sex with cohabitating family/extended family is just... Weird. Probably shouldn't be banned as a theme, but suppressed somehow. Maybe one in 100 advertised/served videos. I guess I am saying we need cancon for porn.