The US president just instructed the USPS to seize any ballots cast be anyone not approved by the federal government.
(iii) Proposed provisions specifying that the USPS shall not transmit mail-in or absentee ballots from any individual unless those individuals have been enrolled on a State-specific list described in subsection (b)(iv) of this section with the USPS pursuant to this subsection.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2026/03/ensuring-citizenship-verification-and-integrity-in-federal-elections/Open linkView original on lemmy.world944
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One of the great failings of this government is not providing a punishment for repeatedly issuing unconstitutional orders. He has exactly zero incentive to stop.
Our Congress has allowed a lawless president to do whatever he wanted. It is a MAGA coup dresses as Republicans.
This is pretty much the Republican project all along.
what I don't understand is why don't they just come out and say "ok, no more elections. this is a dictatorship now" like they keep tip toeing around it, they keep breaking the law, insider trading, illegal operations, all of it and they've gotten away with it every time. So why do they keep teasing something they know they have a strong possibility of getting away with? who are they afraid of?
Doesn’t Russia still hold elections where Putin always wins? Or North Korea?
I think the idea is you keep having elections so you can say you won.
As opposed to the wonderful and free America, which holds elections where we get a choice between one of two candidates favored by corporate oligarchs. Candidates who are appointed to the candidacy, if the parties so wish, by "[going] into back rooms like they used to and [smoking] cigars and [picking] the candidate that way", as acknowledged by our own courts.
Sure, a third party candidate can run, but without funding they have no actual chance of winning even if their message would otherwise resonate with the public. That's not a functional republic or a functional democracy, it's democracy theater put on by our ruling class to appease the working masses.
Whataboutism.
A. We weren’t talking about that.
B. Yes it sucks too, but the alternative, which we were actually talking about, is objectively worse.
I know, you were spreading western exceptionalism talking points, which is what I wanted to dispel.
North Korea has killed fewer people than America. I'm obviously not pro-Russia but just quantifiably, they have also killed fewer people than America (especially if we're talking Russia as a current political entity and not USSR). Both also contribute less per-capita to the climate change destroying our planet. So "worse" by what metric exactly?
EDIT: Whole lotta downvotes, notable absence of actual responses. Liberal moment. "Worse" by what metric?
Now they are talking about killing people and the climate. How far we stray, to be edgy.
What are you yapping about?
I could be wrong but I think Trump was a third party candidate, they really didn't expect him to win, sure he's in the club now but only because they have to, before he was scratching at the doors. Loving the fact that your replies are basically "both sides bad" shit take when you addressed that in your comment, yeah one sides worse, it's Trump, let's move on instead of going over the same talking points over and over. Being better off with Kamala does not make her a good president, but she's the better of the two choices! Is screeched, oh did you just say 2 choices? because they are literally the same side
They're following the Hungary model, which in turn was a variation on the Russian model.
What they're attempting is a "legal coup," which is the typical modern democracy-to-authoritarianism transition. They want to retain the facade of constitutionality and lawfulness, to avoid creating an armed insurgency situation, and to avoid burning the value of the current economic system by crashing the stock market or causing investment to flee.
It's to pacify the enlightened centrists who will go along with it as long as it's supposedly 'what the people want'.
They're boiling the frog, still. Each little step they flood the airwaves with justifications and distractions to trick their idiot followers into supporting. Too big a step and they lose too many at once.
Checks and balances doesn’t work if one party is in charge of everything. I found the John Oliver episode about Hungary to be particularly terrifying.
Imagine if Trump rigged the election so they had a super majority in the senate and a majority in the house. They could rewrite the constitution. What then?
Nixon could not have been convicted without Republican votes. But Nixon resigned, because he knew Republicans would vote to impeach and convict him. So the system can in theory work, even if the system depends on policing its own.
It is in fact quite normal across democracies, for stuff like this to depend on the votes of the party in power.
The problem here is that Republican representatives are traitors to their oaths. And more importantly, that Republican voters are not demanding their representatives to not be traitors.
So Republican representatives simply know that they only get reelected if they act tribally Republican. Note that this is generally not a problem with Democrat voters.
Nixon had to be charged with crimes and serve prison time for the system to have worked. As usual politicians get that magical get out of jail card when the exact opposite should be happening. They should be held to much higher standards and punishments.
Ford pardoned Nixon, and Ford lost the next election. And the pardon probably played a part in Ford losing. So the system still sorta worked then, if imperfect.
Nixon was never officially charged with any crime. The modern day pardon is an extremely corrupt practice as evidenced by the current administration. It should be removed entirely honestly.
If it is allowed it should be the responsibility of a non-partisan committee. The president could refer someone but should have zero power over it. I think it would still be abused, but at least there could be some checks and balances.
Just make it for death row inmates only. Other than that it should just be handled by the courts.
Ironically, it turns into a problem for Democrat voters.
Re-writing the constitution (e.g., amendments) also takes approval from the states themselves.
According to ... the constitution
There's some circular logic happening which Trump sees through. Much like SCOTUS, the constitution can't enforce itself. So you can just bully it.
There have been cases before where the States threatened to delcare the Constitution null and void due to a pending violation. Contrary to what people think, the States have quite a bit of leeway to deal with things. So far, they have been trying to deal with things legally.
True. I guess he can interpret it however he wants and trust that the supremely court will back him.
I saw he will be the first president sitting in on arguments to the supremely court. I wonder if this is an attempt to intimidate justices that might go against him.
I mean if that doesnt provoke a civil war nothing ever will
It won’t. I’d be more likely to leave the country than to die for it.
Link?
https://youtu.be/SkRw83GV-wA
There are no laws; we made the whole thing up
It will eventually be thrown out in regular and appellate courts after it has had the effect they wanted on the upcoming election. Then SCOTUS will give it a green light because they are part of the authoritarian oligarchy.
I don't think the anti-GOP sentiment is confined to elderly liberal voters.
Also, Eight states – California, Colorado, Hawaii, Nevada, Oregon, Utah, Vermont, and Washington – conduct what is commonly referred to as an all-mail election, or universal mail-in voting. In these states, voting is conducted primarily by mail, and all eligible voters receive a ballot by default
I'm not sure how post offices in these states could even respond.
By laughing and ignoring it, having the Governors and Attorneys General of those states countermand it with their own executive orders / statements, just straight up saying that this is plainly obviously unconstitutional.
They could then also threaten legal action against anyone at the USPS who does not listen to them.
Its yet another Constitutional Crisis, any way you look at it, but, its not like there's just no possible response.
The President is straight up demanding that Postal Workers engage in a conspiracy to, amongst other things... tamper with people's mail.
So, any manager or supervisor who orders that be done? 30,000 counts of mail fraud, you're arrested and go to jail forever.
Set up a state tip line for USPS workers to report anything like that happening.
This is how all of these ridiculous eos should be handled. It's nuts that everybody is just doing what mango Mussolini decrees.
Its nuts, but this is basically just how fascism works.
More than enough people, politicians and the populace, basically just get stun locked by the pure audacity of 'you can just do stuff', as all the 'norms' that were never formalized just evaporate.
The response is at first bureacratic, procedural, untill it becomes extremely obvious that the entire strategy of the fascists is to weaponize everything.
Even then, it tends to take a while for most people and politicians to actually begin to react in kind, strategically, seriously, largely because they are afraid of... further destroying the norms that the fascists already destroyed.
Normalcy bias. "It can't happen here" exceptionalism. Cowardice. Incompetence. Propoganda. Historical illiteracy.
Take your pick.
If state governors were more clever, they'd be coming up with reasons to keep their National Guard busy doing something 'important' in their states, literally just to deny them from being mobilized Federally, or make it more procedurally difficult and more of a PR mess for the Feds to do so.
The federal government has no control over voting, it is 100% controlled by the states. The post offices are not legally allowed to do anything to the ballots other than deliver them.
They don’t care what they’re allowed to do. They care about what’s technically feasible. They’re exploiting the fact that they can break the law precisely in ways that empower themselves to be above the law before the law can come back around to them. It’s analogous to crowning Trump king and issuing a decree that the transition from president to king was legitimate. What’s the constitution going to do?
The effect is sowing further distrust in voting by mail and suppressing the vote of people who are being targeted by the government in other areas. In those states anyone who knows citizens who were targeted by ICE could easily assume the same harassment of citizens will happen with mail in votes as well.
Just because it isn't feasible to implement doesn't mean the chilling effect won't happen.
Colorado and Oregon consistently have some of the highest voter turnout in the country.
Idk if this works in practice.
From the GOP perspective, this explains why Colorado is a Democratic island in the otherwise "real American" range states. They probably tell each other that without all the fake, mail-in ballots, Colorado would be as red as Wyoming and Utah.
Colorado isn't a Democratic island. New Mexico and Arizona are also blue states. Nevada's solid purple, regularly sending up a mix of Ds and Rs. There's no shortage of conservatives in Colorado, either. Lauren Boebert is from Colorado, ffs. She's got an enormous constituency of evangelical lunatic supporters and die-hard Republicans. Trump lost Colorado in 2016 by a Gary Johnson's margin. It was straight up winnable back under Compassionate Conservative Bush Jr.
Sure. And Democrats keep insisting Texas is winnable if all the non-voters turn out, nevermind how a rising volume of overall voters only ever breaks for Republicans.
Nevertheless, shutting down mail-in voting in Colorado won't benefit Republicans in any meaningful way.
USPS is run by unions, they're not going to give a shit what Trump's letter to Santa says. The State controls the election process, periodt.
They can respond by just trashing ALL of the ballots - remember the ruling a month or so ago saying they weren’t liable for shit if they did?
They can. But will they? These post offices are run by the same people doing the voting, after all.
It's one thing to tell a post office in Utah to trash all the ballots and just hand the keys of state off to the local Mormon Bishopry. Very much another to give the order in Washington State.
All it takes is a few traitors at key points.
That cuts both ways.
Except Dems always play by the rules, to their detriment. I liked Michelle Obama but that “they go low, we go high” shit has been causing problems for far too long.
No they don't!
They say they do, but they routinely break conventions and norms and laws and constitutional amendments when it's convenient for them and their donor base.
More often than not, they wait for a Republican to do it first and then just keep on keeping on.
But they don't follow the rules. They use the rules to excuse why they refuse to enact popular policies. They deflect and defer and soccer-flop.
Obama did drone strikes on children.
Maybe. However, SCOTUS might not green light it. Loot at the ruling on the tariff case. Roberts, Barrett and/or Gorsuch could join with the liberal wing and hold the line. Of course, Trump is still going to try to deploy troops and chaos at polling places to scare off voters. I think the shit is definitely going to hit the fan in the fall.
SCOTUS backed down from that one because their billionaire owners didn't like the complete anarchy of the tariffs. This one increases billionaires power over the populace via voter intimidation so SCOTUS will be fine with it.
I see it more as the court recognizing that if they just rubber stamp Trump's wishes, they destroy their own power, and Trump is notorious for fucking over pretty much everyone that joins him. In this instance, they would effectively be handing total control over to Trump, who is clearly face-planting across the board, destroying the U.S. in the process.
Scotus isn't always on Trumps side.
They don't have to rule in his favor 100% of the time to be on his side.
In fact, they boost their own alleged legitimacy by occasionally ruling against the regime.
So the USPS doesn’t have to do this, they don’t report to the president, and I don’t think this is in any way legal.
If the postmaster general follows this order I would hope anyone in Congress could haul him in and have him arrested.
States run elections, period, and this is blatant election tampering.
The postmaster was appointed during trump's first term and was constantly trying to destroy the USPS then, and has been trying since.
They are sitting on a huge pension fund that team trump wants to embezzle or spend on war.
Biden admin did not push to get rid of him, so this was part of a bipartisan finance driven plan to destroy the USA.
One more Biden/Democratic failure. They had four years to get rid of that traitor who was systematically destroying the USPS, and after trying absolutely nothing, they were out of ideas, and he's STILL there. They aren't any more effective when they have power, than when they don't. Fucking LOSERS.
He's not still there though. But don't worry! He was replaced by an equally shitty bootlicker
Sure, but it's just one more major example of how infuriatingly weak the Biden administration was. They didn't even try for justice at all, or attempt to avoid an even worse future For America. Literally nothing. Even with the Insurrection, they only punished the foot soldiers, and NONE of the leaders, who should have been hanged.
Yep. Legally they couldn't fire him, and they prided themselves on following the law. Trump regime has no such qualms and breaks the law with impunity daily, knowing that it will take years for challenges to work their way through the court system, and then finally wind up at the corrupt Supreme Court which will take their side.
Somehow MAGAs get anything they want, and Dems cant figure out how to get ANYTHING they want.
Biden couldn't fire DeJoy directly, but he appointed a majority of board directors who could fire him, and then they decided to not remove him. Choosing appointees who will carry out the presidents agenda is a primary responsibility, and Biden seriously blew it. Again. I understand why it didn't occur to him, he could barely remember his name, but he had a whole team which should have been picking up the slack, and they obviously failed.
And even if his administration can be excused for that bit of incompetence, he could have removed DeJoy "for cause," such as inefficiency, neglect of duty, or malfeasance, all of which he's been criminally guilty.
They had multiple LEGAL options do get rid of him, and MAGAs would have availed themselves of all of them, and then some, but Biden couldn't do the bare minimum of vetting his appointees for those who were committed to his agenda.
Dems are OBSSESSED with being more polite to corrupt treasonous genocidal pedophiles, than fulfilling their Constitutional responsibilities to their own voters, who are desperate for real action from their elected representatives.
Not to mention Merrick Garland. 😩
ANOTHER unforgivable sin of the Biden administration. Trump's treason unfolded completely in the open, as he announced, schemed, promoted, organized, and launched a violent Insurrection to overthrow the government and install himself as Dictator-For-Life. We watched every minute of it LIVE, from his first Save The Date announcement - "Will be wild!" It was the most open & shut case in legal history.
But Biden appointed the most feckless REPUBLICAN to be his Attorney General, who proceeded to dither and slow walk the case, giving Trump a two year head start to run out the clock, and if there was anyone who knows how to manipulate the court system, it's Trump. It's one of his few talents, all of which are criminal.
Trump will always be considered the Worst President in history, he's already earned it many times over, but Biden will be in the Bottom 10, for allowing Trump to regain power.
Except international law against genocide, occupation, and human rights violations.
There does exist divine justice. Just "accidentally" get him run over by a car.
Last admin didn't do enough AND you have a child's point of view of the nuance of that actual situation and the board of governors. Also, as others have pointed out, DeJoy is gone, but only to go back to privately grifting. Further, last admin was the most progressive of my lifetime, but it still wasn't enough. You seem to gauge success based on your gut and guess what your gut is full of, friend?
Try not to speak with righteous, blustering confidence while your head is all the way up your ass... The words get muffled and it's hard to hear you embarrassing yourself.
I gauge the success of the Biden administration, like all presidencies, based on its outcomes:
Covid Vaccine Program: 100% success, or as much as possible since Trump encouraged the anti-vaxxers, and screwed up herd immunity.
Post-Maga Economic Recovery Program: Every Democrat President has to open with an economic recovery plan to fix the mess left behind by EVERY Republican/MAGA president, and Biden's was very successful.
With those two initiatives, Biden could have been in the Top 10 of presidents, but he had to do a good job for the rest of his term, which he didn't.
After the Covid and Stimulus programs, his most urgent priority was to gain control of MAGA, and deal with them as the genuine National Security Threat that they had become. They had thrown a goddamned VIOLENT INSURRECTION, and tried to overthrow the government!
That happened only a couple of weeks before Biden took office. He would have been well within his Constitutional and legal rights to step off the podium after his Inauguration, and immediately ordered the round-up of all MAGA leadership, remanding them to Guantanamo Bay for extensive interrogation. What nation allows the leadership of a proven treasonous organization to wander totally free, and even openly plot to steal the NEXT election? It is literally the most egregious case of Presidential Malpractice I can think of.
And now MAGA is back, and Trump has taken a baseball bat into the World's China Shop, because he's trying to distract from the last 10 carefully balanced global and national institutions he's destroyed. Now he's working on the delicate oil/fertilizer/food balance, just so he can manipulate the markets, and make people forget the name Epstein, another major issue that the Biden administration badly neglected.
Trump was elected partially because Biden's lack of action on the Epstein Files made many Republicans assume that it was because it was filled with Democrats, so they voted MAGA to get justice that the Dems wouldn't offer. One more easily avoidable Biden failure.
MAGA came back because Biden was too weak to even look in the same direction of the worst National Security Threat since the Civil War, and for what? The simple reason is that Democrats are too obsessed with being polite to that very same National Security Threat. MAGA doesn't deserve politeness nor respect, they deserve prison, or worse, and the Biden (and Democratic) Ostrich Doctrine has badly damaged the entire world.
It's all about outcomes, and while Biden had a couple of successes, he blew it badly in some vitally important ones, and the primary outcome of the Biden administration was the recovery of MAGA.
For that, Biden's legacy is justifiably ruined, and he will be permanently ensconced in the Bottom 10 of American Presidents.
I see the situation very clearly, while you're still out there simping for the guy who had the best opportunity to stop MAGA's rise, and didn't even bother to acknowledge that they were a problem. And I'M the one with my head up my ass?
I wasn't arguing about who the biggest idiot is, I was discussing Biden's problematic legacy. Others, like you, are taking offense at the truth, and insulting me personally, instead of addressing the issues that I brought up.
That's okay, that's expected from people who are wrong.
Don't call somebody a child and then smarmily call them friend when you think you have a gotcha. I agree with your point but your messaging is terrible and derisive.
Cool Joe. This person spoke with unchecked righteous indignation and just a booming unearned confidence - all while they are vacant when it cones to the nuance of the discussed situation. In that scenario, my goal isn't a respectful exchange of ideas with a peer, it's something to maybe knock them off the unchecked BS they are likely spewing left and right in real life and online. As represented by their expressed opinion here at least, this person is the third person in the sinking boat in that well circulated cartoon - and that person sucks.
We're all frustrated with the lack of action in places before and presently, that said there's a reality that informs how and why a lot was done (or not done) and if a person doesn't care enough to educate themselves of that enough to inform their online vitriol, then they aren't expressing a mature POV - they instead express something more similar to a child's approach to a complex problem before their brain has fully formed. So I'll likely continue on, but appreciate the conversation.
The fact he didn't try to get him fired is not helping Democrat neo-liberal's case of being paid opposition.
You know that Dejoy guy isn't there anymore right?
Just like other past irregularities, mild repurcussions after the fact is too late when the election is already stolen.
Not in Trump's America.
Elected by Trump.
No consequences.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Postmaster_General
I love that the noose of reality is tightening around this regime's neck.
However, as they see the end they're getting more and more dangerous, because there's no way they're going to let themselves face justice at the end. I predict this summer and fall are going to be the darkest times of my lifetime, and potentially a lot of violence from the regime.
J6 was just a practice run. This revenge tour he's shown us the past year only proves he will not go down without a fight... and his base are so embolden now, they will absolutely do whatever the hell they want knowing their king will back them up.
I mean, I remember this gleeful enthusiasm back in 2006 and 2018. Very likely there's a bloodbath in the next election. But... what comes next?
Will Dems actually be in charge of the Senate? Or do we get the "John Fetterman Says No" show for the next two years?
Does the House try and rein in the President or just double down on war funding while doing photo ops of Hakeem Jeffries shrugging impotently?
Go back to Pelosi's House under Bush. And Pelosi/Schumer under Trump 1. These were not inspiring moments of liberal leadership. More often than not, Dems don't stop the fascism. They just cash in and become complicit.
Yeah I'm well aware of the copium. One realistic way that I see change happening is the regime does something so heinous and appalling in the next 6-12 months that everyone will get angry enough and, while it won't lead to a direct overthrow, a lot of the farther left candidates will gain more and more power.
This act would have to be like, murdering a crowd of protestors so they can't vote or something. I should clarify a crowd of white, straight, middle class protestors***
I have no hope for the actual Democratic party of course. They're controlled opposition at best. It just so happens the progressives caucus with the Ds for now. We really need to abolish FPTP in all states, and implement RCV or approval/score voting, to start moving away from the duopoly, but of course the people in power would never willingly give up power.
I genuinely fear that ICE will be arresting people that look like they will vote democrat. You can’t vote if you’re sitting in a cell overnight. States like California and Illinois might protect their citizens. But states like Georgia (which has a democratic senator up for reelection) likely will give ICE free reign.
Well thats election interference
Yeah that's the point.
remember, every accusation is a confession.
All this does for mail voters is require them to get their ballots earlier than usual. There are many reasons to hate Trump but this is not it.
Nah, it's pure vote tampering, well-worth hating the Republican administration for. People will forget, people have busy lives, much more than people will decide to send in the ballot early and they know that. As a bonus it would no longer give people a deadline to convene around -- will the ballot be delivered in two days? Three? What about a mail delay? Idk how you could see this as anything but despicable thuggery.
It applies to all voters including those for him.
I don't know what I wrote that indicates I care about who it favors, but that's not the point. Mail-in voting increases voter turnout, so making mail-in voting harder or less accessible is vote suppression. Vote suppression is bad for democracy. That's it.
Even if it affected his supporters more than others, it would still be a bad thing. If change is to happen democratically, it needs to be actually democratic (or as democratic as FPTP gets, anyway).
So you think voter suppression is ok, as long as it applies equally to everyone?
No I don't, however I am pointing out that it disadvantages Trump voters just as much.
And I'm saying that that's a pretty meaningless observation to make, unless you're trying to defend voter suppression.
If so, why bother doing it? He didn't issue a pointless executive order, did he? ... Maybe your interpretation is incorrect.
Okay, you know you need your ballot mailed to you right? So what happens when they mail it late??
Oh I'll add it to the list. And its certainly a rule that will be used to throw out legal ballots.
Do you smell that??
Fear. Fear and shit. Someone's diaper needs changed.
Unfortunately, this type of interference can be effective while challenges sloooooooooowly move throughthe courts.
I got banned on Reddit for saying that this is a torch and pitchfork moment.
Because Reddit loves fascism. Edit: that and pussy-ass liberal non-violence..."go high!" Hippies.
And they love trump.
Think about how much (fuck) u/spez protected r/the_donald.
Think about how much they showed their oldest, most tech-savvy users, power users, and moderators, the door...right at the run-up to the election, with the changes in the API rate structure. These users were overwhelmingly anti-Trump.
I got a 3-day ban right after the Venezuala attack for suggesting that another country "return the favor" on our leader.
They're not hippies. Real hippies tied themselves together across roads to protest the Vietnam war. They chained themselves to industrial equipment to protect nature.
These are not real hippies. They disappoint real hippies.
Have you gone out and incited violence?
Let's go out and incite economic violence on May 1st. May day strike to test the waters.
We're inciting self-defense.
it’s the ye old method of protesting with your gun. and to be frank, i think your going easy on em
Fuck /u/spez
Here it is Americans. Its time to put that love of liberty and freedom to the test. Or are you all going to sleep meme your way through a fascist power grab.
Kinda seems like we already did.
This is nothing. There are nightmarish depths yet to plumb.
The sense of "what can I even do" is so fucking overwhelming right now. I know that's part of the goal, completely flood the zone to make us apathetic, but it's working really well. This is exhausting, just getting through the day is exhausting, and still I feel a deep need to at least do SOMETHING, but don't see anywhere my effort would even scratch the surface. I donate half my eggs to the community fridge, I offer free lawn care to locals that aren't able to afford it or do it themselves, I am vocal about progress in spaces that are traditionally conservative, but at the end of the day it doesn't feel like it matters or makes any difference.
Honestly that community level stuff you are doing is the bread and butter of a healthy society. You dont need to do much to have an affect. You just need to make your voice heard to your local politicians, and keep the pressure on. It suits many scummy people for you to think you have no voice, but you do.
Second Amendment nutjobs sleeping on this be like:
Oregon has ballot drop off places and don't go through the USPS. Get fucked Donny.
Washington state is the same.
But you get your blank ballot in the mail.
Same in Washington and pretty much every vote by mail state.
Yeah, I had the same thought. The order does say “from” any individual rather than “to” (i.e. when ballots are sent from voting office and addressed to the voter).
Though cynical me doubts this distinction will matter when it comes to delaying/withholding ballots in either direction.
I just instructed the president to lick my balls. I don’t think he will though.
Depends. Are you 12?
Good point.
I think he only rapes girls tho
Their username contains “bill”, so maybe they're Clinton, possibly aka Bubba, in which case according to the Epstein files Trump may have already blown him, unless Bubba was the horse...
Are you Benjamin Netanyahu? Because he would.
LMAO. If the dems did this, the maga cunts would be like "OFF WITH THEIR HEADS!" but daddy dumpy does it, and they're probably rejoicing.
And the good Americans just passively accept. Who is the bigger problem?
Way to victim blame. Only psychopaths and sycophants pull this shit
The victim? Keep telling yourself that unless you are actively trying to stop it.
Yea because fighting your own side is all about fixing it. Go talk to yourself in the mirror when it comes to addressing how not to fix shit.
I don’t understand. I am suggesting you all join the Canadians and boycott MAGA hard so they collapse and start seeing bankruptcies and chaos. Money talks and that situation will make them in-fight and fall apart. No not to fight them as they will do it for you if you put the pressure on them. Better than doing nothing and better than going straight to violence.
Your comment “Only psychopaths and sycophants pull this shit” has been living in my head for the past half day. Not because I took it personally but more just how deeply ironic it is. Like you seem more upset at a stranger on the Internet calling out everyday non MAGA Americans for not doing enough and you call that person the psychopath and sycophant, yet not your President who is actually the psychopath and sycophant who is going to directly impact your life in negative ways because you and others have essentially allowed it to fester and grow. Looking at your post history, you do not even seem that mad at the situation around you and this seems to be a common thread. Like sure, you are clearly not loving the station as you see yourself at the victim which is fair as you likely do not vote for Trump, but he really is the epitome of evil and is so clearly dragging your country which I also love, into what is looking like hell for anyone not aligned to his evil views. Maybe my comments has you thinking too about how you can do more as you can be the victim and accept till it is so painful you finally act. Hopefully in a non violent way, but the longer you and the good Americans delay their response the more it will be forced into violence and I rather not see my friends and neighbours how to go through this.
I am sorry I triggered you. My intent is to use shame and shock to wake Americans up who are passive. Time to act. Hope you are taking measures to resist, even in small ways out side of online complaining and the odd ineffective protests. Download the apps that you can scan barcodes and see if you are inadvertently about to support a MAGA business that is undermining you and good people. The tools to address non violently are at your disposal if you choose and the longer they are not used, the more likely violence is coming. Hope this message is processed by you with the intent I am trying to put out, perhaps ineffectively. Feel free to suggest how I can help motivate Americans to join Canada in the boycott.
You’re the biggest problem here fighting your own side. If you’ve decided there’s no way back : You’re the one doing fuck all to fix it.
... Definitely the trump cult? Like yeah, you could argue that Democrats are also a problem, but the 'bigger' problem is pretty fucking obvious
Hard disagree. The. In MAGa Americans are passive AF right now. Sure, there is online complaining and the odd ineffective protest, but actual action to slow / break down MAGA? Nope. The Canadians are doing more than Americans and it was self organized not government. Imagine if Americans joined the MAGA boycott as it would cause chaos and bankruptcies which would get their attention. Money talks especially to the MAGA crowd. So while not all Americans are behaving as bad and as evil as MAGA, they are also not preventing the damage it is doing to themselves and the world either. Only Americans can save themselves and it is not looking good.
Hur dur where's that 2nd amendment now hur dur <-- You rn, typing on the internet from thousands of miles away about how we're not abandoning our lives to get shot by the secret service
But you are ok with others being shot thousands of miles away?
Obviously the ones actually doing the horrible things are the bigger problem.
Extremely seditious, and absolutely disqualifying all on its own under 14A3
LOL. Based MBFC:
I noticed they similarly (and correctly) downgraded/tanked the credibility rating for cdc.gov as well.
Gold!
My suggestion for anyone voting in the US. Vote early in person if possible. If you are going to vote by mail, do it ASAP.
That's the best way to get your ballot counted, which is the most important thing right now.
Oh, and check your registration, like today. And tomorrow. And like once a week.
The worst time to vote is election day. Avoid that at all costs.
Also, if your elections department has ballot drop boxes, utilize those rather than send through USPS.
Impeach him now
Drag him into the street and beat the sack of shit to death. Fuck this crap man.
I have seriously never hated another human being with the unquenchable fire with which I hate Donald Trump. I’ll help, if we ever drag him out!
Ok. First step is organization. How we do? Obviously they watch us here. So, how to organize without being eaten?
But seriously, how is that supposed to work? Is the USPS supposed to open all the envelopes and determine if the voters are registered?
They just seize everything by default. They'll get back to you later about which ones are illegal.
Authoritarianism is an admission of abject weakness.
White supremacists are the weakest and most brittle snowflakes.
We really need to start melting them down.
What the fuck.
Also, what's with this federal voter list nonsense? There's already a fucking voter registry.
Elections are run by each state, including registration. That means when they want to fuck with the registry they have to do it in a state by state basis, making specific lawsuits that target that state's system. They want to make it federal so they can just drop whoever they want from the registry without having to go through state officials.
Besides being a blatant attempt to enable widespread disenfranchisement, it is also highly unconstitutional. The states run elections, following regulations set by Congress. The executive branch should have no power here, and the executive order should be struck down immediately, but who fucking knows at this point.
1: The executive order is blocked by a federal court.
2: Supreme Court issues a stay on that block, allowing the EO to continue until the Supreme Court is able to review it.
3: Supreme Court slow-walks their review of it, delaying until after the election.
4: Supreme Court 'does the right thing' and decides it's unconstitutional ... after the election, once it's too late.
That's precisely how they blocked Jack Smith's prosecution from going forward before the election...
That and a lot of help from Garland and therefore Biden.
You don't appoint a lifetime Republican by the book timid conservative (in every sense of the word) AG if you want to expedite justice for crimes the book never even IMAGINED, much less drew a jurisprudence roadmap for.
While the Mango Mussolini and his fellow fascists are of course the main culprits, ALL the people with the vested power to do anything has failed the population so profoundly that only blind followers will have any trust left regardless of whether or not the fascists successfully steal the midterms.
I still maintain that Jack Smith did all he could with the time he was allotted to work on the case (less than two years from the time he was appointed), and he did a damn fine job, presented a bulletproof argument to congress, and secured two grand jury indictments totalling 41 felony charges. Aileen Cannon and Scotus are to blame for delaying those cases until after the election.
If the next Democratic president appoints Jack Smith to be Attorney General, I'd say that's a damn good pick.
I hope someone finally nails him with treason after he gets out of office.
In not usually one to support capital punishment, but he really seems to have crossed that threshold to justify it...
Of course, that's for the courts and the jury to decide. If they ever do their jobs...
Lol, my dude...History will gladly demonstrate for you, that when you have a fascist leader already in power, there is only one way they "leave office"...and it doesn't permit much time for a trial after.
Then would anyone care to demonstrate what you mean?
There's two ways that one way can occur. And I fear it will be the passive means.
lol, no. Forget about it.
Even if Dems manage to get control again, they're going to go straight to "we need to heal the divided country" mode, which means frequently compromising with the Republican minority and 'forgive and forget' for all of the Republican's crimes. After all, they wouldn't ever want to prosecute anyone in the other party -- that might make it look as if they're pushing politically motivated prosecutions!
Let me dream, it's all I have...
How about instead, you start dreaming of an indefinite general strike that grabs the economy by the balls until our demands are met?
I can dream about more than one thing, you know...
I hope he has a stroke and goes into a shut-in syndrome coma
And leave vance in charge without even dispelling his loyal base?
Look, I want to see the guy kiel over as much as anybody, but we all know Vance can't get elected, so waltzing into the presidency without an election and simultaneously dropping all the baggage of his predecessor is probably going to be the best thing that could happen for the republican party.
Much better if we let the guy's time expire, let the voters deal out the consequences, and let the republican party shatter without a clear leader to take his place...
He's not leaving in 4 years.
No but it would be a miracle if he lived that much longer after that.
Is it legal to say "we need a revolution to overthrow Trump, and fast"?
Ask the French. They may have some pointers.
Winners get to define the rules. Be sure you win.
It depends on who's hearing/reading it and if you consider their edicts legal.
"Um ackshyually"
Donny needs to fuck off and not be alive.
Weird how the land of the 2A hasn't unalived him yet.
That's cool, I'll just bring all dozen ballots from my family to the local registrar office drop off. No USPS involved.
Thanks for the warning Trump!
Can you do that in other states? In Pennsylvania we can only return our own and, if you get designated by another person by filling out a form, and even then you can only be one person's designated person.
I get that you can’t actually fill out their ballot (like you can’t do that with Power of Attorney.) but you are talking about physically delivering the envelope you can only do for yourself and one other designated person? So if someone is unable to drop off their ballot due to a disability, there can only be one designated person to drop it off for them and only them?
I went back and reread it, and it says there's an exemption if you all live in the same household. So I think if you live with your parents you can be designated for both of them, but if they live separately from you, you could only do one.
County drop box rules
And then from the agent form:
Last time I voted, they had signs all over the grass saying "One Person, One Ballot" and someone was guarding the box and checking envelopes.
I'm in Cali, so I don't know with other states.
My local registrar just has a box out front and I've dropped off ballots there at 3am before. It's locked, but it looks like a USPS envelope drop off box, but it's the registrar's. So just shove them in the slot. And then I get a text the following day or two saying it's been collected and counted.
No one checks anything. I've even gone one time where it was drive-through style and I just rolled my window down and gave them to one of the dozen or so poll workers.
As long as the envelope is sealed and signed properly by the voter, I don't see a reason it'd be contested. And when it all gets counted if there's a discrepancy then it'll get flagged and that individual who signed it will be contacted.
Been doing the drop offs for years now, for all elections. Never had a problem.
Our boxes also look like a postal box, just with a very narrow drop slot.
I think all ours are indoors at libraries and district courthouses.
There were some lawsuits here about people forgetting to date the ballots and I think that is why there's a person there now to supervise drop offs.
Last year was noticeably different though with all the signs out front and people were stuck waiting as everything was being looked at during busy times because we didn't have many drop off sites for how many people live here and they're only open during business hours.
We got emails when our ballots have been received and then again when they're counted.
Be ready to walk past ICE on your way there...
At 3am? 12pm? 7pm? 8am? They're going to be there 24/7?
Because I got all of the time in the world
I mean... I wish you the best, but... if they go so far as to deploy their paramilitary to polling locations, it's not that crazy to think they could post up 24/7, especially in targeted areas like swing districts and blue cities.
Best to brace yourself to walk past them nonchalantly and hope they don't approach you on your way to the dropbox. If you're carrying multiple ballots then they might ask questions, though... And we all know that when it comes to ICE there's a thin line between "asking questions" and "publicly executing"...
But if you're already doing that then you might as well offer to carry ballots for any of your friends who happen to be hispanic and visibly queer, cause they'll likely have more trouble getting past ICE.
And also, you may want to double-check the legality of carrying someone else's ballot in your state, as I am not a lawyer...
Not trying to be a naysayer, I just want to make sure we're all mentally prepared...
Nah I totally get where you're coming from and agree that shit can happen, I just don't care anymore I guess? I'm gonna vote how I always do and if shit happens then shit happens
And good on you. Just making sure you're mentally prepared
What's that!!? The fat orange child rapist who tried to incite an insurrection a few years ago is now trying to fix and fuck things up in other ways?
Well well well, what a complete and utter shock. If only there was a way for america to have seen this coming...
Tried to incite and succeeded at inciting insurrection.
Pulling an Orbán.
No, this is not that.
Orbán never fucked around with mail in voting in this way.
Hungary never got this bad.
Almost like that recent ruling that people can’t sue the Post Office for shit like this was setting it up…
Artemis II...space! We're all going to space!
Voting Rights--->joink!!
April.. ah what the fuck
"How 'bout no?"
-USPS
You Americans better do something........
We're working on it as fast as we can without getting shot.
Did you tell that to the South Africans or the Germans?
The solution needs international solidarity.
Well, we did protest on that one day. I mean, biggest turn out for one day. But, what do you expect? 2 days of protests in a row? Ha! We can't afford that. The proletariat subsists on starvation wages.
States run voting it’s in the constitution https://constitution.findlaw.com/article1/annotation18.html
The Trump Circus doesn't know that and even if they did they wouldn't care
UHM, THEY LEGALLY CANT??? 😭
He can't legally rape children either but that didn't stop him.
Literally hasn't ever stopped him doing anything
yeah, though we really wish prone would do their jobs and impeach him and jd out already
Who's gonna stop them?
Postal workers union
For a voting system that has NOT had ANY significant fraud...yet.
This is evil.
Sedition Act of 1918
Emphasis mine.
And mine still hasn't been processed yet so the USPS may have it (for our primary). Fuck.
Just use USPS to send out a letter
Would still suppress turnout but at least there's no ballot to confiscate
love my ballot drop boxes here in Maryland.
Same in VA. But we have to GET the ballot first before we can drop it off.
In many counties, you can drop them off at your library.
Yet another tactic to prevent "the wrong people" from voting. But a lot has already been happening even before this. States have been passing laws over the last several years that mail-in ballots can only be counted if they physically arrive at he Election office before Election Day.
It used to be with most states that a ballot would be counted if it arrived by X number of days after Election Day as long as it was postmarked by that day. And it used to be that your mail was postmarked the same day you mailed it, proving for example that you sent in your tax return on time. But not any more. The USPS is now saying that your item might not be postmarked for some time after you actually mail it, depending on when they get around to processing it.
Mail-in ballots are clearly recognizable in their special envelopes (so they would get priority treatment). So it's very easy for the Post Office to sort out those ballots from the other mail. And depending on the state, besides your signature it will have your name and return address they could scan and compare to a list, or at the very least they know where it was mailed from. So they could easily screen out ballots from people areas more likely to vote Democratic and simply delay postmarking them until past the deadline, or just hold up delivery to make sure they're late.
I would say we should avoid voting by mail, or if you do, mail it well before the deadline AND consider driving to a post office in an affluent, white, or in general Republican-leaning area and mailing it from there. But really, at least for the next couple of federal election cycles or for as long as magats are in power, I recommend voting early and in person at the Election office if at all possible.
That change on its own, really isn't as nefarious as it seems. It was always postmarked where it first was processed into the mail stream, now that's just taking place at regional centers.
You could always get it postmarked at the desk, and were encouraged to do so as there was no guarantee it would be processed the same day. You can still do that.
Yes, IF it's during business hours and the desk is open. But that's another good thing for people to make sure and do if they decide to go ahead with a mail-in ballot.
And I do understand that the move to regional processing centers as their excuse for why things might no longer get postmarked the same day. But that's what they're saying and does not negate the fact that they can easily delay postmarking or delivery if they want to, and I don't think they should be trusted not to want to (or be ordered to). My point is that we're now at a moment where no government agency can be trusted to not act in a partisan way or to not interfere in our elections.
Won't happen and even if it did it wouldn't stop the defeat they will suffer in 7 months.
Grasping at straws, pedophile
Fascism, plain and simple.
Hanging is way too good for him.
Good thing I vote online.
The United States Packet Service will see to that TCP/IP packet of yours.
Fortunately they can't stop it
Just change the name from USA to Fucking Russia II.
How are you guys not realising you were always the same, one just lost a spending war
Ah yes, small government bogged down with bureaucracy somehow? As if designed to be so innefficient they can't lose...
Uh, isn’t that how it’s always worked? Like, everywhere?
You can’t vote if you’re not a citizen. That’s like, duh. Floating this onto the USPS is stupid. It already happens exactly where it’s supposed to…
USPS is underfunded and understaffed. This is exactly why he wants to dump this on them. It's so votes don't make it in time.
"elections"
And what is the approval process?
The white trash presidency.
As though there will be a midterm election.