According to Wikipedia, it's known in modern times as mycobacterial cervical lymphadenitis.
The disease mycobacterial cervical lymphadenitis, also known historically as scrofula and the king's evil, involves a lymphadenitis of the cervical (neck) lymph nodes associated with tuberculosis as well as nontuberculous (atypical) mycobacteria such as Mycobacterium marinum.
As for what lymphadenitis is?
Lymphadenopathy or adenopathy is a disease of the lymph nodes, in which they are abnormal in size or consistency. Lymphadenopathy of an inflammatory type (the most common type) is lymphadenitis.
The Wikipedia article for king's disease has a picture if you're curious, although it's a bit gross.
yeah. poor guy. He was a brickie, played the French horn in the Sally Army Band, four kids, wife. Into lifting, whisky, big mustache. Real working class hero type.
Sounds weird from today's perspective, but actually refers to two notorious murderers that terrorized people at land and sea. You could protect yourself from either the cancer's claw or the wolf's tooth, but not both.
It's a generic term for an open hole between two spaces where there should be a wall. The two spaces might include "outside", but could be two internal spaces (e.g. between the intestine and abdominal cavity)
in college, i did a fair amount of number crunching on mortality statistics and the demographic transition. here's some numbers i remember from the 1700s:
life expectancy: 40
life expectancy at age 20: 72
modern medicine has not added much to our longevity, we've just gotten rid of childhood mortality.
I read somewhere that it's actually an efficient method of nature ... babies that won't make it anyways die early so you waste fewer resources on them. it's called fail fast
I've spent more time than I care to admit reading Wikipedia entries on significant people from past centuries. Way too often their life story is full of disease and death. A dozen siblings. All of them suffer the same disease in childhood. Half of them don't make it to adulthood. Mother dies during childbirth. Father struggles making money from their creative work, dies in a duel. Subject cared for by wealthy uncle. Is affected for the remainder of their life by the lingering effects of the childhood disease. Repeat for the next generation.
This is specifically a Dethklok track list. Some of these are kinda brutal.
Producer: Okay, but... "Teeth?"
Band: ::complaints and groans of disbelief::
Nathan: They're like... bone knives. In your face. And kids lose their first set with blood and agony, and then you get even more. It's so f---ing brutal. So we made a song about it.
Toki: Plus it's important to teach the kids about brushing.
Swissgar: Yous don't want to be losings your bone face knives.
Apropos "Cut of the Stone". I read a book about history of surgery and one chapter was about a guy who remove his own bladder stone. Back then people didn't have great hygiene and urinary track infections were common. Those would cause bladder stone that would get worse and worse witch each infection. The stone would block the urethra entrance so you would feel you like really need to pee but once you stand up you wouldn't be able to. This wasn't very pleasant so people would try to remove the stones. Typical way was to go through the taint, open the bladder, remove the stone. There's a lot of blood vessels there so survival chances were not great. Doctors refused to do it because patients would die to often and then family would blame them and they had enough shit to deal with already. So you had traveling bladder stone removers. They would do the surgery and by the time patient would die they would be on the road again.
So this one guy, a blacksmith, tried to get his stone removed twice or had two stones removed already, it's not clear. Anyway, he didn't like the traveling stoncutters. So he got a sharp knife, asked some guy to assist him and did the surgery himself.
It's 1632, dentistry was was carried out by the same person who did the medical surgery, who also happened to be the person who did the animal butchery too.
Also it's around the time that sugar started to come into the common person's diet from the plantations in the Caribbean and people didn't understand how terrible it was for their teeth. There's skulls of people who died in old age from the 14th century with basically perfect teeth but by the 16th they were rotting out of people's mouths by the time they got to their 30s.
It's the same as chrisomes. Infant mortality was so high, the ones who died without obvious cause just get lumped together by age group.
Chrisomes refers to those who died within the first month, during the time they'd be baptised. The baptismal cloth, the chrisome, would often be just as a burial shroud.
Teeth meant they were old enough to have one or more teeth, 6-24 months. Teething was thought to be potentially fatal because so many infants died during that period. Correlation, causation, yadda yadda yadda.
In 400 years our list of conditions will seem similarly naive and simplistic.
Been to a doctor lately? We can't cure shit. We've got a few meds that can help balance systems or mask pain. We can cut shit open and rearrange it. We can zap some shit with radiation. But actually fix anything? Nah. Maybe in another 400 years.
"Oh, look, they treated obesity as a disease. And heart disease? Hahaha that's funny. Hearts are so simple.Cant believe cancer is its own category. Everyone knows what causes that and how to treat it."
I will say the improvement in infant mortality is amazing. At no time in human history have infants had a better chance of survival than now(ish). So maybe I'm just cynical and disillusioned with the current state of my medical care.
we've improved infant mortality and added 6 bad years to the end of life. that's all medicine has done for mortality statistics.
we are able to treat some diseases poorly, some diseases well, we've eradicated a few but some dipshits decided it would be fun to bring them back so that's cool i guess. they've also discovered how to keep people alive while they are in several different parts across the room, which i have doubts about whether they discovered that ethically.
Dude if there weren't NSAID's or Gabapentin, and there was no other option for sustenance besides "perform physical labor"...you'd be sayin he got off easy.
First time it happened to me I couldn't believe how much it knocked me down. I'm 40 and even after a couple weeks of medication, I still felt like my body was twice as old as its supposed to be.
Anal arthritis? Intestinal fracture? I think two vaguely medical terms jammed together make the best band/song names for this entertaining genre of music.
Weird that cancer and wolf are grouped together
Apparently, "wolf" was a metaphorical name for cancers which "devoured" flesh, as opposed to creating tumors, I guess.
I think it was lupus.
It's never lupus.
Lupinus.
...but I mean that's the band name "Cancer, and Wolf"
Seriously though, going over a reddit threat this was on, looks like "Wolf" referred to a fast-growing tumor that "ate you like a wolf" or somesuch.
https://old.reddit.com/r/coolguides/comments/f3c2hi/cause_of_deaths_in_london_in_1632/hkh904m/
I choose to interpret it literally
It's definitely cooler that way, but also maybe in that regard "Cancer" means they were clawed to death by a giant crab?
why not both
I now imagine wolf cancer involves one of the two wolves inside you finally deciding to grow it's own body
I would have died because teeth back then, for sure
It likely meant getting an abscess from an infected tooth which lead to sepsis. We're really lucky to have modern medicine.
Oh, like that guy ICE killed recently.
Unfortunately, barbarism is alive and well in our world.
My votes go for:
I'm partial to Kings Evil myself
Rising of the Lights is cool
Bunch of anti-monarchists snuck into the records office 😄
I wonder what that actually was.
According to Wikipedia, it's known in modern times as mycobacterial cervical lymphadenitis.
As for what lymphadenitis is?
The Wikipedia article for king's disease has a picture if you're curious, although it's a bit gross.
Executions I presume.
Vomiting worms
"Suddenly" interests me the most. Not a condition or even a means, just a manner.
Like a catch-all for things they didn't understand; heart attack, brain haemorrhage, things where someone's fine one minute, and dead the next.
Afaik, sudden cardiac arrest is a cause of death still used today. In spanish we call it just sudden death.
Like the game mode.
"He just...croaked!"
my uncle died of "Sudden Adult Death Syndrome" per the coroner's report
That's sad
yeah. poor guy. He was a brickie, played the French horn in the Sally Army Band, four kids, wife. Into lifting, whisky, big mustache. Real working class hero type.
Anyway, thanks for your regards.
Cancer (and wolf)
"Be careful, my relative tried chemo for the first time and died 3 days later to a wolf attack."
The wolves can smell the chemo, it's like marinade for them.
Hard to say which one finished them off. Better put both.
Seems more like band names to me... and according to the Encyclopedia Metallum, these are already used:
Stillborn, Aged, Apoplex, Bleeding, Flux, Sores, Burnt, Scalded, Burst, Rupture, Cancer, Wolf, Canker, Cold, Cough, Strangury, Consumption, Convulsion, Starved, Drowned, Executed, Falling Sickness, Fever, Fistula, Gangrene, Gout, Grief, King's Evil, Lethargie, Spleen, Sciatica, Teeth, Thrush, and Worms
You're doing important work here, thank you.
Someone needs to post detailed explanation of all those things. I hope it doesn't have to be me.
Found this: https://mediachomp.com/cause-of-deaths-in-london-in-1632/
My favorite: Thrush = yeast overgrowth / yeast infection of mouth (or genitals)
Deleted by creator seems like a helluva way to go
I need to be part of that metal band
Shit I laughed aloud
This site translates the cause of death into more modern terms.
they still use colic to describe severe idiopathic abdominal pain
My thoughts are with the single person who was killed by piles. What a pain in the ass way to die.
Planet.
"Sir how did your wife pass?"
"Planet."
"pardon?"
"Mars got her."
"Mars?"
"yes, The Planet. slings bow over his back and gathers arrows Mars."
I like killed by several accidents.
Also teeth seems like a popular one.
“Cancer, and Wolf.”
What?…. What?
Cancer, and Wolf, refers to the old common term for cancer: wolf. It was thought to be a parasite that ate up the afflicted, like a wolf.
“Have you been bitten by or interacted with any wolves recently, Mr. Jacobs?”
“No, I’ve never actually even seen a wolf in real life.”
“I see, then we seem to have misdiagnosed you, it turns out that you have lymphoma and you’re a liar. Now take this cocaine and get out of my office.”
Sounds weird from today's perspective, but actually refers to two notorious murderers that terrorized people at land and sea. You could protect yourself from either the cancer's claw or the wolf's tooth, but not both.
Fistula.... I'm scared to search that....
Yeah, you're right to feel that way.
You don't have to. Here, I'll tell you: It's when your asshole sprouts another asshole.
It can also be when toothdecay spreads sideways through your mouth. That'd probably kill you a lot more readily back then
It's a generic term for an open hole between two spaces where there should be a wall. The two spaces might include "outside", but could be two internal spaces (e.g. between the intestine and abdominal cavity)
Yep, and even worse, one of the classic ones is rectovaginal. Fortunately modern medicine can fix it
The fact that infants dying is the highest by far just shows how cruel nature is without modern medicine and birthing practices
in college, i did a fair amount of number crunching on mortality statistics and the demographic transition. here's some numbers i remember from the 1700s:
life expectancy: 40
life expectancy at age 20: 72
modern medicine has not added much to our longevity, we've just gotten rid of childhood mortality.
I read somewhere that it's actually an efficient method of nature ... babies that won't make it anyways die early so you waste fewer resources on them. it's called fail fast
Funny, when you apply that to biology, I think it changes its name to "eugenics".
I've spent more time than I care to admit reading Wikipedia entries on significant people from past centuries. Way too often their life story is full of disease and death. A dozen siblings. All of them suffer the same disease in childhood. Half of them don't make it to adulthood. Mother dies during childbirth. Father struggles making money from their creative work, dies in a duel. Subject cared for by wealthy uncle. Is affected for the remainder of their life by the lingering effects of the childhood disease. Repeat for the next generation.
Tuberculosis (consumption) was another constant killer, coming in at second.
This is specifically a Dethklok track list. Some of these are kinda brutal.
Producer: Okay, but... "Teeth?"
Band: ::complaints and groans of disbelief::
Nathan: They're like... bone knives. In your face. And kids lose their first set with blood and agony, and then you get even more. It's so f---ing brutal. So we made a song about it.
Toki: Plus it's important to teach the kids about brushing.
Swissgar: Yous don't want to be losings your bone face knives.
Apropos "Cut of the Stone". I read a book about history of surgery and one chapter was about a guy who remove his own bladder stone. Back then people didn't have great hygiene and urinary track infections were common. Those would cause bladder stone that would get worse and worse witch each infection. The stone would block the urethra entrance so you would feel you like really need to pee but once you stand up you wouldn't be able to. This wasn't very pleasant so people would try to remove the stones. Typical way was to go through the taint, open the bladder, remove the stone. There's a lot of blood vessels there so survival chances were not great. Doctors refused to do it because patients would die to often and then family would blame them and they had enough shit to deal with already. So you had traveling bladder stone removers. They would do the surgery and by the time patient would die they would be on the road again.
So this one guy, a blacksmith, tried to get his stone removed twice or had two stones removed already, it's not clear. Anyway, he didn't like the traveling stoncutters. So he got a sharp knife, asked some guy to assist him and did the surgery himself.
The stones on that guy.
The stones in that guy.
Man you know it's a barbaric procedure when Barbers and surgeons wouldn't touch it
I am going to die of Planet after I forget my parachute while sky diving.
How'd crackhappy die? Oh you know, PLANET.
That planet appeared really suddenly!
You’d think it would have taken a few others with it as well. Like, the rest of humanity.
I'd like Kil'd by Several Accidents and ... hmm ... Planet, thanks.
What kind of planet? Little glass planet?
https://youtu.be/hqIYmYBNYxE?t=1644
Any type of gas giant will do.
Great name for a deathcore band.
Considering it was London, I'm surprised death by teeth wasn't more prevalent.
It's 1632, dentistry was was carried out by the same person who did the medical surgery, who also happened to be the person who did the animal butchery too.
Also it's around the time that sugar started to come into the common person's diet from the plantations in the Caribbean and people didn't understand how terrible it was for their teeth. There's skulls of people who died in old age from the 14th century with basically perfect teeth but by the 16th they were rotting out of people's mouths by the time they got to their 30s.
Queen elizabeth got black teeth and had them falling out from all the sweets I read, forget year, 16th or 17th I think.
Death by musical instrument needed its own category.
Also killed by several accidents - a series of unfortunate events.
Also those darn evil kings!
And lights are dangerous when rising.
"King's evil"
Political bars.
Scrofula
The axe, or hanging, or drawing and quartering, etc. Not often old age in prison so much.
It was a lymph node disorder, commonly caused by tuberculosis.
What the fuck is "Teeth" about?
It's the same as chrisomes. Infant mortality was so high, the ones who died without obvious cause just get lumped together by age group.
Chrisomes refers to those who died within the first month, during the time they'd be baptised. The baptismal cloth, the chrisome, would often be just as a burial shroud.
Teeth meant they were old enough to have one or more teeth, 6-24 months. Teething was thought to be potentially fatal because so many infants died during that period. Correlation, causation, yadda yadda yadda.
Tooth infections can be very deadly if left untreated and quite honestly the treatments weren't much better.
Bit with dog?
Maybe it’s like cancer with wolf.
Apparently the wolf is an aggressive cancer. Google also says the dog is actually rabies.
In 400 years our list of conditions will seem similarly naive and simplistic.
Been to a doctor lately? We can't cure shit. We've got a few meds that can help balance systems or mask pain. We can cut shit open and rearrange it. We can zap some shit with radiation. But actually fix anything? Nah. Maybe in another 400 years.
"Oh, look, they treated obesity as a disease. And heart disease? Hahaha that's funny. Hearts are so simple.Cant believe cancer is its own category. Everyone knows what causes that and how to treat it."
I will say the improvement in infant mortality is amazing. At no time in human history have infants had a better chance of survival than now(ish). So maybe I'm just cynical and disillusioned with the current state of my medical care.
If you are truly cynical you would realize that Society will collapse long before 400 years, matter of fact, let me glance at the clock.
"lol they died of having a pitiful human body"
we've improved infant mortality and added 6 bad years to the end of life. that's all medicine has done for mortality statistics.
we are able to treat some diseases poorly, some diseases well, we've eradicated a few but some dipshits decided it would be fun to bring them back so that's cool i guess. they've also discovered how to keep people alive while they are in several different parts across the room, which i have doubts about whether they discovered that ethically.
"dead in the street, and starved"
Rising of the lights!
Apparently any condition that caused lots of coughing.
Not explained enough. wtf is?
rising by the lights. killed off by a joker running something through the night?
How does one die of piles?
Alright, but I'm only going to show you once.
What an asshole. /s
blood loss or starvation i'd imagine.
Everyone is caught up on Cancer and Wolf and I'm over here like... Burst and Rupture?!?!!!!
I think it's like ruptured organs like an appendix bursting or something like that
i was going to suggest it might also be fistula but i see it listed separately
Someone died of Sciatica 😵💫
Dude if there weren't NSAID's or Gabapentin, and there was no other option for sustenance besides "perform physical labor"...you'd be sayin he got off easy.
First time it happened to me I couldn't believe how much it knocked me down. I'm 40 and even after a couple weeks of medication, I still felt like my body was twice as old as its supposed to be.
Lunatique - Amazing band name, I call dibs.
Blackened Thrash/Speed? Or Proggy Black/Extreme?
Proggy for sure, heavily classical influenced, with blues inflections in a dreamy shoegaze atmosphere, but not afraid of a big epic finish.
Proposed lyrics:
An old, mad, blind, despised, and dying King;
Princes, the dregs of their dull race, who flow
Through public scorn,—mud from a muddy spring;
Rulers who neither see nor feel nor know,
But leechlike to their fainting country cling
Till they drop, blind in blood, without a blow.
A people starved and stabbed in th' untilled field;
An army, whom liberticide and prey
Makes as a two-edged sword to all who wield;
Golden and sanguine laws which tempt and slay;
Religion Christless, Godless—a book sealed;
A senate, Time’s worst statute, unrepealed—
Are graves from which a glorious Phantom may
Burst, to illumine our tempestuous day.
By Percy Bysshe Shelley
I like it!
You all missed that more people died of grief than were murdered. That's the most English thing I've ever heard.
Depression, I guess?
2268 dead babies
Grrreat bandname.
I read that in the voice of Tony the Tiger.
Threeee-y're Dead!
Hahahahahaha
Shoutout to QI doing a bit on this
Almost a quarter of those deaths were young children. That makes me so sad.
Worms :(
at least 7 people had a fetish for succubus-nurses.
Lunatique has to be someone's name by now
Anal arthritis? Intestinal fracture? I think two vaguely medical terms jammed together make the best band/song names for this entertaining genre of music.
Damn. That fever will get you.
62 people couldn’t wait I see.
And only 15 proactive folks
"Doctor why are you head banging?"
Wait... Gout???
"Bleeding" isn't exactly "Fucked with a Knife" but Fucked with a Knife is a track on The Bleeding by Cannibal Corpse.
Sciatica-ed to death
I thought cancer was invented in the '60s