Trump Reportedly Mulling Plan to Declare ‘National Emergency’ Paving Way for Major Power Grab
The Washington Post reported that activists are working with the White House on an executive order to declare a “national emergency” over America’s elections and pave the way for a power grab.
“Pro-Trump activists who say they are in coordination with the White House are circulating a 17-page draft executive order that claims China interfered in the 2020 election as a basis to declare a national emergency that would unlock extraordinary presidential power over voting,” reported the Post‘s Isaac Arnsdorf. “President Donald Trump has repeatedly previewed a plan to mandate voter ID and ban mail ballots in November’s midterm elections, and the activists expect their draft will figure into Trump’s promised executive order on the issue.”
Peter Ticktin, a MAGA activist in favor of the executive order, told the Post that “we have a situation where the president is aware that there are foreign interests that are interfering in our election processes,” and that “the president has to be able to deal with it,” including by banning mail-in ballots and certain voting machines.
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He's already declared like 30 emergencies.
Those are just called sharts.
He's the boy who cried wolf of presidents.
Because "emergencies" are the Wild cards given to the Executive Branch by Congress and SCOTUS. There's no clear definition and no boundaries until he's challenged in court or Congress overrules him.
And if he waits six months before declaring an emergency, there would not be time for the court to annul it
And at this stage, Republican congresscritters voting for fair elections is as likely as turkeys voting for Thanksgiving.
Man he's really got this civil war speedrun record locked in.
Speed run it all the way to the guillotines plz
The French didn't exactly speed run it themselves.
I'm currently listening to old episodes of the Revolutions podcast, and am midway through the French and it bares no resemblance to what's going on now. Which, when it gets to the reign of terror, might be a good thing... But that's the one part of it that I could see happening again.
A lot of the terror was fueled by a murderous little shit with a bootleg newspaper. There's a reason why lible and slander laws are so powerful in that part of Europe.
Yeah, took like 50 years.
The administration bears no resembelence to the french revolution, more to when the rich back a dictator to ptotect them from reform and that dictator ends up cannibalizing them, like with Sulla in rome a generation before caesar. Or obviously hitler.
He's so old though, the succession will decide it, if they can hold onto it and fix elections for the new guy, with dems being the opposition I don't see what would stop them either, certainly not newsome.
The Revolutions podcast is a gold mine. Have you listened to the latest season? You're in for a big surprise if you haven't :)
Along with a systematic elimination of the nobility and upper levels of the clergy, it was a post-revolutionary faction fight between the middle class (for example, provincial lawyers like Robespierre before he became a pamphleteer) and the working class.
The 1789 revolutionaries didn't really have much of a plan to govern in the unlikely event of victory, so they started improvising, and that didn't go well. It also didn't help that the leaders of every other country in western Europe wanted them dead.
The American revolution, on the other hand, was bourgeois-led, with minimal involvement by working people, and they learned a lot from their initial failed attempt at governance, the Continental Congress, so by the time they wrote the Constitution, they had at least some idea of what would work and what wouldn't.
No clipping and straight to the end, please.
I’d be fine with a BLJ into the guillotine.
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Bacon, Lettuce and Justice
Saw a nice sign in a nearby town: "They want 1939 but they'll get 1789."
At least some people are starting to get it.
Can we stop with this? This is a ridiculous fantasy that just makes you look immature.
It's too boring for American audiences. Now, woodchippers on the other hand...
Woodchippers can't handle the moisture content, but this is literally what industrial meat grinders are built for.
I’d be more in favor of sending them to their favorite place on earth: Epstein’s island. No supplies, no running water, no help. Just a webcam and maybe a drone once in a while.
Or maybe it's time to revive the method used to rid the world of Manius Aquillius: molten gold forced down the throat.
Without the war, and the civility.
says you
Even if it were true that China stole the election, how is "something happened 6 years ago" an emergency? He won in 2024, so it can't be that effective anymore.
It's an emergency because if he leaves it alone Republicans are going to tank hard in the midterms which will mean he loses power and might even be held accountable for his crimes.
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Ughh.... I hate that the thought of aliens coming directly to my house, handing me a winning lotto ticket, while they simultaneously get struck by lightning twice in a row and get bitten by a shark seems 1000000x more likely to happen than for Trump to ever face consequences for his actions.
If anyone even started that process "judge" Aileen Cannon would jump from the top rope and bodyslam the case shut with a "Trump is immune because I say so" ruling like she's been doing this entire time.
:(
So just as a bit of hopium. Bitch Cannon could be impeached by congress, if it's a bad enough wipeout for the Republicans in the midterms I could see some of them turning on Trump and cutting his little network up to make themselves look better. Assuming they don't decide to go scorched earth and impeach, convict, and execute Trump.
Though more likely they'll lose the Senate and it gridlocks. Which would still fuck over Trump since then he would basically be locked from passing any laws.
Not that he's passing many laws now. The 119th congress has been the least productive congress maybe ever. Most of the shit he's doing is just illegally pretending he has the authority to do the shit, then waiting until someone proves he can't.
Yep which Congress if flipped could respond to in any number of ways. Anything from refusing to fund fuck all to something as actively malicious as dissolving presidential security. Really my point was moreso that if Congress is retaken Cannon wouldn't be able to do fuck all, hell if I'm not mistaken she could even be impeached by congress if they were able to scrounge up the required votes.
He's been ruling by decree, the Congress does nothing to stop him, and the courts are slow and badly corrupted.
Yeah, I'm sure Democrats will get right on that and not just bleat out platitudes about healing and moving on.
Democrats are not the only potential source of accountability.
He will just never get over the fact that he lost in 2020. And he's willing to make all of America suffer for his butthurt.
He cheated in 16, he cheated in '20 and still lost. Him being a man who has never competed fairly in his life assumed the Dems cheated harder. Turns out the high number of mail in ballots threw off his scheme and he lost. The time to declare a national emergency over voting was in 2016 after he won. The silent majority doesn't exist. The polls are accurate. He's a fucking loser who aligned himself with adversaries to steal democracy and fuck this country supremely and make the wealth divide even worse. The fact that the Dems went along with him winning in '24 and didn't contest it at all despite the statistical anomalies in swing states is just fucking unbelievable. This ass clown is supposed to be in a cell, but he's the fucking president because Joe and Kamala were fucking spineless. Trump did not win all 7 swing states, and once they nationalize voting, it will be forever rigged, and in Trump's own words, "you'll never have to vote again".
Yeah the guy who cheats against kids in golf is not playing a clean game in a national election. Mean the dude lies like a sidewalk and aome people wonder why he doesn't do what he promised. Cause he's a fucking con man, grifter. He's the guy they'd tar and feather back in the day if he stuck around long enough.
THANK YOU. I was starting to think I was the only one still incandescent with rage over this.
It hurt hurt his feelings bigly. And if anyone, anywhere has ever hurt Donny's feelings then it is a national emergency.
It's our own doing, there is no China in it.
2 corrupt party system did it
And none of that actually gives him any power to do anything like that.
He is not the States.
Counting down until he's lying in state.
Counting down until he's buried at a crossroads with a stake through his heart.
He's probably going to wait until closer to November so the courts won't have time to respond.
That's the thing though - there are no courts to be involved here. Every state runs their own elections. There's nothing he can do other than send federal law enforcement to essentially be poll watchers in every single voting location.
The red states can continue their bullshittery. I don't see any blue states allowing that.
Another article acting like the executive has any power over elections. They portray this as a warning, but all they're doing is normalizing the idea.
The billionaire owned media is normalizing this on purpose.
Well yes. That’s the idea. They’re special and deserve more than one vote. Democracy is foul, to them. One vote per person undermines what they believe regarding themselves.
This is absolutely the most important thing to keep in mind here.
Remember, this is a memo being circulated by Trump supporters. It's actual legal basis likely sits somewhere around "political fan-fiction."
The same thing happened in 2020. Trump supporters invented completely nonsensical legal justifications for how Trump could sieze power. None of them held water.
Can Trump just ignore the law and declare shit anyway? Sure. Self-coup is always an option in any democracy. But he is deeply unpopular; I don't really see that working out for him, although the process of it not working out certainly might be a very violent one.
Trump tried to self-coup in 2020, and the result absolutely fizzled. It was violent, and messy, and innocent people died, but in the grand scheme of attempted insurrections it was pretty fucking pathetic. He's got a cult of personality, but he's never actually done the work to build the kind of organized support he'd need for something like that.
I'm never going to tell Americans that the danger is over and everything is fine. There has probably never been a more dangerous time for American democracy. But don't mistake that danger for inevitability. While Trump is carving a path of destruction through your government, norms and institutions, he's also bleeding power every single day. You can win this.
ICE
ICE has 22,000 agents. They couldn't even sieze power in Minneapolis.
Again, I've been very clear; he has supporters. A coup would not be defeated easily or bloodlessly. But having support and having sufficient support are not the same thing.
This is exactly the Project 2025 playbook. Doing things by the law takes time. In that time, they do as they please.
How is an executive order going to change anything about how state employees act? EOs matter for systems where federal employees make decisions, they're not magic.
They're emboldened. You're assuming they care and people play by the rules. This is all about breaking political norms.
Let's say, for example, Trump wrote an EO that said "State and Federal employees don't have to marry gay people if it's against their faith". Remember Kim Davis? A person who did that unprompted by the POTUS. There's plenty of asshats like her in important county positions around the country.
Given the success of recent Democratic elections, sometimes swinging districts by 20 points in previous Trump districts for the win...all it takes is some people in some key places to do some nefarious shit.
Everything he's done besides for the budget has been by executive order.
Yes, and they're all carried out by his own employees within the executive. If they didn't do the thing, he fires them. They may get their jobs back eventually from the courts, but he has very real power over them until then.
Executive orders have zero power over people who can't be fired by him. He's got exactly as much power to dictate the jobs of state employees as he has over how I do my own job.
I understand that, but they're going to go for it anyway. You know as well as I do that these red states can't wait to turn over their elections to Trump. They're just waiting for the signal. There can be no elections once that happens. I don't see how the country survives at that point.
The issue is, his people have been selected based on their ability to tell him what he wants to hear, and that’s mirrored up and down the hierarchy. Everyone up and down the line is fudging what they can do or the reality of the situation, and that gets amplified as it travels up, and seemingly meaningful orders get diluted while traveling down.
Their understanding of their own capability and what options they have is massively distorted. They think they have more capacity and influence than they actually do, and what real power they do have will be poorly allocated when the time comes.
He and his people will absolutely try, and it’s going to create a bunch of messes, but, it’s like a toddler trying to fly a passenger jet, they can hit a bunch of buttons and switches, but the chances of that actually leading to the engines starting and the plane taking off are near 0.
Well, for starters, you don't get to stay in office after your term is up.
That's a good point; think of all the other things they're normalizing this way as well.
The Washington Post thinks that traitorous conspiracies on the right are equivalent to protests and demonstrations by other types of "activist?"
The same Washington Post owned by billionaire Jeff Bezos? I'm shocked!
The Chinese government hates the US and, if they interfered successfully, would have done so to get Trump into office, since that would cause the most damage.
Huh? It's our own election system. 2 corrupt parties for a long time. Candidates nobody wants and this is the result
The flood of troll farm misinformation and lies by both China and Russia as well as right wing ownership of MSM all aided in trump’s rise. Yeah, our shitty electoral college that is DEI for mostly empty States handed trump the win.
Own the shit. No one wanted Hillary or Kamala. Presented by corrupt Dems.
Both can be true at the same time. The extreme corruption of both parties because both are beholden to oligarchs are causing frustration, which is being amplified by troll farms.
Plenty of people voted for them. You just outed yourself. The only reason Trump is in is because 50% of Americans would not support a woman in office. I mean, who would want a moody, vindictive asshole leading with their emotions rather than their brain?! Right...
Bro. People looked at first term. First term was different as he had no power. And everyone is tired of corrupt status quo. So they chose trump over another typical politician. Yes it didn't work out, but there were many reasons why people voted trump
The reasons people voted for Trump are racism and greed. Anything else is just lip service they tell themselves to make themselves feel better after their massive fuckup.
Edit: because let's be clear, everyone told the fucking dipshits what would happen as a result of a Trump presidency. Everything they said came true, the magats blamed Biden, and then they voted for Trump again.
I am really struggling not to use the word ret*rds when talking about them.
Sounds about right, there are a lot of pro-trump anti-democrat content circulating in WeChat...
Seems like they are trying to discourage diasporas from voting for democrats
Night of the long knives in 3...2..
This would be where they burn down the
Reichstagcongress.Can we please just skip to the part where he eats a bullet in a bunker?
That only happened when it was clear to him that he wasn't going to win.
I sort of wonder if Trump has that foresight.
It could be argued that even Hitler lacked the foresight until that last hour when it was discovered his armies were not coming to his rescue.
Fair point 🤔
so it's been leaked that they're "working on" an executive order to declare a national emergency?? for the midterms????? you don't have to "work on" declaring an emergency!??!?! it either IS an emergency or it ISN'T.
Dear heaven to think how dumb they think everyone is
wait, everyone might actually BE that dumb
To me "working on it" implies there are things in motion to manufacture that sense of emergence...
There's a lot of evidence to shoddily fabricate.
You would think... but to the government, "emergency" is just a marketing phrase.
Hey boss, I'm going to be ill a week on Friday.
Sitouts still think they did the right thing in 2024. Theres the answer for you.
I'm sat here in Europe watching Trump and his sycophants systematically dismantle American democracy and I'm honestly shocked that they're being allowed to do it.
I'm assuming it's the end if he's allowed to nullify the midterms as he intends, the final remaining shred of democracy will be well and truly gone.
What a sad way to see the "Land of the free" fall.
Fun fact: if you're shocked, that means your model of the world is incorrect. Luckily, you can learn and switch your world-interpreting paradigm to one that works better.
Historical materialism predicts this pretty well. I haven't been surprised by the US since I became an anarchocommunist.
im sat (and sad) here in europe and worried because eu keeps imitating the us, just much slower
Yeah, we'll see IF he does this AND it stands IF people will let it happen. I'm not sure that they (we) will. But it could. But I've had so little hope since 2016, and it just got worse in 2024. Still fighting as best as I can, and hoping others will.
Someone please lock Dem leadership in a closet somewhere so people who care can deal with this.
Where are these people who can deal with it?
Please, show some evidence that they actually exist. I don't need names and addresses, thats just opening them up as targets.
Do they exist? Because all I've seen is a lot of bitching and whining and declaring that no-one is good enough to do that.
The bar is not high. The members of the squad, who are some of the most popular members of congress in the country; Ro Khanna, who's trying to bring a war powers resolution to the floor that would check Trump's plan to attack Iran but is actively being undermined by Schumer and Jeffries because they want war with Iran. Bernie Sanders, the most popular senator in the country... You could literally draw Democrat names out of a hat and chances are they'd be better than Schumer and Jeffries.
-Leftists
Yep, any criticism of the weak zionist leadership that suppressed the 2024 autopsy which confirmed that their zionism is an albatross on the party and is actively undermining the Khanna/Massie war powers resolution because they want Trump to start a war with Iran is definitely a call to abandon democrats and let republicans win, not a call to replace the incompetent leadership with people who would crush the Republicans easily with an actual populist platform.
Leftists lose elections so consistently and have so few voters and so few candidates that they can’t even exist as a party. They need the democrats to even exist because the majority of voters are on the right or center of the political spectrum.
Leftist claiming they can win elections is like a fat sports fan criticizing the athlete that actually plays the game and has the ability to win.
Leftist have never won any where near as many elections as democrats.
Leftists didn't lose twice to an actual soup-for-brains man baby. Times have changed and people aren't happy with the status quo anymore. AOC and Bernie Sanders poll the highest in each house of congress and we haven't run one for president since FDR.
UsernameHere will argue that Clinton and Harris lost because they were women, or because the left didn't "vote blue no matter who", not seeing the irony of their claim.
Liberals don't have ideals, they flip flop to whatever opinion is convenient for them. One day women and men are equal, one day women are too weak to win elections. One day the left never won an election because it's irrelevant in numbers, one day the left lost the election by not voting for their zionist candidate.
They have the debate skills of current Charlie Kirk.
Pretend to ask question, don't listen. Spout something or ask a derailing question to make it look like they thought it through and then blame you on character attacks.
Whatever is the "winning" thought is not any form of effective communication I have ever seen. But it sure gets interaction. Their entire life on Lemmy seems to be this.
You’re making up an imaginary argument to argue against? Yeah that sounds like something a leftists would do.
Leftists have no ideals, they flip flop every election cycle when the opposition tricks them into not voting using whatever hot topic is relevant at the time. One day we need to stop Trump. The next day it is ok to not vote and let Trump take over and end elections and persecute immigrants, LGBTQ, women, people of color and build a new resort on Gaza beach.
So I understand that you resent leftists that didn't vote for Harris, because that lost the election?
Q.E.D.
Look at how few leftists have won elections nation wide. That is an indicator of how bad they would lose in a nation wide election.
AOC and Bernie are in blue states and wildly unpopular elsewhere.
Trump used election tampering, foreign influence and had billionares literally buying votes and he barely won by like 1%. Leftists who have never won an election screech about this like it is a sign that democrats don’t know what they’re doing. While at the same time leftists are unable to win elections.
Then why has every Democratic president that has won for the last 40 years run on progressive policy and any time they don't they lose to a Republican?
Literally Trump spouts leftist rhetoric in his recognition that the system is broken which appeals to his base. Just the people with money in the room whisper in his ear to not do anything cause its how they make their money.
"Leftists" might not have won near as much but progressive policy sure has. We aren't winning saying everything is good right now minus Trump
If the Democratic Party is running on a particular policy then by definition that policy is democratic not progressive.
Also, those same democrats will incorporate centrist policies to give the voters what they want.
A big reason leftists lose elections is because they convince themselves they don’t need to compromise to win over centrists which have many more voters than leftists.
What leftist rhetoric has he spouted? I’ve only heard him spout right wing rhetoric.
Again, if democrats are running on this policy then it is the Democratic party’s policy. No party owns policy.
You operate on bad logic just like saying that democratic party candidates running on progressive policy makes it DNC policy. Its still progressive policy. Just adopted ones.
Republican and Democratic are not sides of the political spectrum there are 4 points and you can fall into any spectrum of policy in any party and a good country doesnt have 2 and think one side is good and the other evil.
No party own policy and that means that they aren't beholden to run that policy either as seen by the DNC not, frequently.
And Trump loves single payer health care and has stated multiple times in his first term that the government should pay directly to the hospitals or people. And then started the whispers in his ear and suddenly "nobody knew healthcare could be so complicated"
He is an idiot who jumps to the easiest conclusions in his head and sometimes simple is progressive. It is not owned by a party and the DNC does not only provide it.
You’re contradicting yourself
stupid people tend to be happier bc they dont use their little brains to worry or even think about anything beyond their day to day. civil rights erasure? who cares as long as burger hot and beer cold.
The only thing holding a lot of Americans back from violence is the knowledge that that's exactly the excuse the regime wants to declare martial law and suspend elections. If they just jump to suspending fair elections anyway, then there will be nothing to stop the gloves from coming off. The billionaires and Congress creatures better run for their bunkers. Anybody that the people perceive as having a hand in getting us to this point, either through direct action or failure to react, won't be safe.
The only things holding Americans back from violence are relatively abundant food, entertainment and comfort. All of which will still continue to exist once free elections are gone. Plus what they replace them with will be branded super duper free elections, and that will be enough for a lot of people.
There is little to no evidence that the 1/3rd of eligible voters who didn't vote in Nov 2024 are any more engaged with what is happening than they were back then.
All they have to do is orchestrate this coup in a somewhat intelligent way that doesn't immediately collapse the economy and they can absolutely pull it off.
Most Americans are not going to fight for abstract rights when their immediate tangible needs are being met.
“…duas tantum res anxius optat, panem et circenses.”
Sounds like an excuse, no dictator has ever been held at bay by lack of action and this regime is not shy of pulling stuff directly from their asses.
Prediction: None of this so called evidence will ever make an appearance in a court room.
Unfortunately we have been boned since the immunity ruling.
And even if it does it will be a Trump Crony Judge that just goes... yeah sure, be a dictator buddy!
His lawyers don't exactly have high hopes.
we held elections during a literal civil war. What "emergency" could trump that with all our modern life improvements and.... checks notes. No civil war in America...
He has no trouble pulling random excuses out of his ass.
And on the rare occasion the courts eventually tell him to stop, he will have been doing whatever he wants for months and moths before he is told to stop.
This does concern me frankly. Hopefully its all just his usual limpdick saber rattling. The problem is, if something like this does happen, at this point I don't trust anybody to stop it. Democrats are too busy playing theater and bending the knee to their corporate overlords to oppose anything Trump does at this point past their usual finger wagging and "almost maybe going to send a sternly worded letter at some point" responses. And if the Supreme Court doesn't give him the nod to do this he can just, you know, ignore them. Not like he's faced consequences for that the past... ever.
they succeeded in 2024, with the help elon and the voting machines, DNC is pretty much complicit.
Pretending that Trump didn't win the election is how you fail to ensure you win the next one, and doom the rest of the world to another MAGA administration.
The fact that Americans are STILL talking like there will be a real election to win is partly why we're in this situation.
I swear y'all could be sent in chains to the remotest corner of Alaska in a prison camp and you'll still be saying 'man people are mad, he's gonna lose the next election for sure!'
This wont be voted away. It wont be protested away. Its going to have to be fought and it will be unpleasant.
there was a discussion on a sub, about how AMERICANS dont care as long as you dangle something shiny infront them, EV cars, relatively high paying jobs, vacations, and for the right CULTURE wars, and they ignore all the stealing, backstabbing, complicity, that the gop and old guard DNC does behind thier back. thats why the "protests" if you want to call it that (from what im seeing)is very ineffective as far as making "someone scared" they arnt, one side is doing, and smaller segment is actually protesting while its largely ignored by the voters. if a group is willing to riot/fight back, of course you can say it will only encourage DUMP to escalate, the elites wont see a threat at all.
one of the big mistakes is having the "ELECTED dnc out here" giving passivity and not to act further, like how walz is trying to avoid confrontation at all cost, and now is seen as a total joke, likely being directed by AIPAC. there is a reason why only 1 side is protesting, because the GOP is only targeting heavy blue areas, as USual.
NEWSOMe isnt the saviour the moderate dnc wishes he to be, i thinks hes much more to the right than even biden. DNC/gop systematically trying to discredit ZOhRAN pretty much showed thier true colors.
I'm arming myself. Hope everyone else is.
Donald Trump is the national emergency.
States should declare emergencies first and protect themselves from the fed. Elections are handled by each state, not the government.
The Constitution is extremely clear that elections are the responsibility of the states, and we just saw the Supreme Court back the Constitution against him.
He tried to use the "Emergency" excuse to justify his tariffs, and SCOTUS didn't buy it. They aren't going to buy this emergency either.
The Supreme Court should not be trusted.
If we’re both putting forth theories then what’s incorrect about assuming the Supreme Court went against him on tariffs so it would seem “fair” when they back him on stealing elections?
After all, they’ve done this exact scenario before.
How bleak that we have to trust a court that constantly operates in bad faith to save democracy from the guy that hired too many of them.
He also immediately promised new tariffs
Cautiously optimistic nodding to your conclusion
3 of them did.
Which proves that he only has three rubber stamps, when he thought he had six.
This was just the first of several direct attacks on clear Constitutional concepts, which he thought he would brute force his way through with bought-and-paid-for operatives on SCOTUS, and it failed badly. That does not bode well for future Constitutional challenges like Birthright Citizenship, State control of Elections, or his future challenge to term limits.
As much as I want to believe that, it could also go the other way. They only needed to convince two others to sign on to full on fascism and it would have been a 5-4 in favour of trump.
Next time, the three that think the constitution is to be ignored, might be able to convince two more to side with them.
They probably will rule that the "emergency" is unconstitutional, but consider how long Trump got away with unconstitutional tariffs before SCOTUS tossed them out, and how long he would need to get away with fucking with election rules to get the election results he wants.
The election issue is a ticking clock, tariffs weren't. That makes it top priority for quick action by the courts, emergency injunctions, etc.
His MO has been to use "emergency" as a power grab even when nothing gives him any powers over these issues even if he claims an emergency.
Fuck you, you fucking orange turd. If everything is an emergency, then nothing is.
Just like every other shithead dictator. It's well past time to go sic semper tyrannis on him.
Well that's because the courts avoid defining what an emergency is in every single case. No court is ultimately willing to limit his power. Even the last tariff case was shot down because the law he used didn't have language about tariffs in them, not because it wasn't an emergency.
Same as 'think of the (insert impoverished group du jour)...!'
Nah bro, trump does every night while he's trying to pork melania.
If this happens and civil war doesn't break out than I fear good people will have lost.
"They say evil wins when good people do nothing. I disagree, it should just be 'evil wins'."
So I'm of the opinion that it should be as costly a victory for the bastards as possible.
There won't be a civil war and the people have already lost. There.
Surely more protests will work this time.
By Wikipedias count there are presently 51 on-going national emergencies in USA, 19 of them have been declared by Trump.
The oldest still active one was made by Carter in 1979, it's a sanction on Iran.
Are we in the greatest American period ever, as claimed during his long-ass speech to the union, or are we in a national emergency? It can't be both.
Of course he is, he benefitted from it. America ain't coming back until the people take it back, and that's gonna be done the hard way.
If he starts the civil war by ending our vote, do we get to start hitting Ice agents with our cars?
Also make sure to be going 40 or over or they get back up.
Or just don’t forget to backup yourself
You already can! Are you worried about repercussions? They aren't.
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if this happens it’s over They are limiting who can give passports, some states are cancelling driver licenses of certain groups… they will choose who can vote or not
Doesn't there actually have to be a "National Emergency" before he can just "declare" one? I seem to remember the South Korean president tried something similar there. Wouldn't it be great if the consequences were the same?
For there to be consequences we would have to have a legislature not working for billionaires.
All of this comes down to billionaires buying their way out of having just one vote.
Yes, but here's the problem. Both the courts and Congress in their truly finite and limited wisdom have decided that only the president can determine what is an emergency.
Ironically, if he is successful, it would be a national emergency.
Bold move in a nation with more guns than people.
I'm not against a Gaddafi or Mussolini ending at all.
The ending is OK. It's the journey there we all want to avoid.
You're the first Republican President since the civil rights act passed to have negative approval among white voters.
You won the popular vote because for the first time in memory, high propensity voters are going for the Democrats and low propensity voters went for Republicans.
Whatever you're planning won't be enough.
Putin must be ecstatic.
Getting control of one of the main oppositions to Russian power in the hands of one of the dumbest, weakest, most narcissistic people ever? He's probably preparing the celebratory champagne enemas and hookers as we speak.
Why?
He destroyed the US.
What? It's our own retarded system
Hey, Mr. Stewart. Is it ok to now call it fascism?
Is Media-Ite a credible source?
Pretty much, and the original report was by the Wapo
If America is overhauled or replaced, I would like the new Constitution to have rules about emergency powers. Namely, the president has a 10 day grace period for Congress to accept the emergency. If they don't acknowledge it, the president and vice president is either executed or imprisoned, the latter method requiring a vote from Congress. Citizens may freely carry out the execution or arrest after 20 days, if Congress fails to implement their decision.
Seems better than what we do now. The second you try to commit a coup to stay in power, that should be the end of your political career.
When he steals our democracy and outlaws all other political parties...I bet Schumer, Jeffries, Collins, and the useless lot will all be seriously concerned.
They're probably all sitting cross legged getting their strongly worded letter constructed.
... Is it too late to become Canadian?
Good fucking God I can't wait to wake up one day and have the best news delivered to me. Multiple news sources letting me know all fucking day about this great news. It'll be a great great day.
Fuck, I wanna wake up tomorrow to sunshine and tacos and tequila.
anything to distract from the "distraction esptein files" and to stop it from getting released any furhter.
Uhh, I think this was the obvious plan since before the election...?
But his opponent was a woman. Of color. And she said the things that he outright did his first term. And the voters didnt care because they thought itd be a landslide. Again.
Time to organize
Time. Time to kill Dr. Jeffrey O'dwire, with my new hammer.
Probably should've done it before shit talking the supreme court. I have little faith in them to act in a timely manner, but who knows?
What if that was just theater?
As an outsider I can only hope that
a) Trump would never do something that benefits others
and
b) That Trump is that unpopular, that he would lose a third term
and
c) Americans become a more french when being unhappy with the ruling party
Never underestimate the DNCs ability to run a candidate that the moderates couldn't even hold their nose for.
I've always preferred "Never underestimate the DNC's ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory."
Oh I'm shocked, shocked i tell you.
Trump is so old. He looks like he's going to die any day now. And MAGA doesn't worship his administration team. Only him.
The idea that this ends with Trumps death is no different than leaning on the hope that someone else who isn’t you is going to stop any of this.
Yes, he looks terrible. Yes, it’s entirely possible we wake up tomorrow to news that he died in bed.
But consider what happens next. Peter Theil assumes the presidency through Vance. And Theil hates democracy.
Yup. MAGA doesn't have something similar to North Korea's Juche to save them because all Trump thinks about is himself.
All-in on Nothing
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Hell yes! Barnaby Jones!
The only emergency I see are the browned pants of the orange hittler…
The flailing around and constant changing of plans is probably just theater. Whatever else happens, they will always flood the zone with shit. Whatever the plan is, the news is only a vague indicator of it.
He'll probably be dead by the mid terms, as "healthy" as he currently is. Why even bother?
Such predictions have been made for nearly a decade.
What will the US military with their oath to protect the US Constitution?
Probably not.
I would love to be proven wrong, but the evidence of the last year tells me I won't be.
The only way the US military would ever -MAYBE - intervene is if Trump openly and unambiguously violated a direct order from the Supreme Court. If SCOTUS directly prohibited Trump from seizing control of elections, and Trump just ordered the military to intervene, that might be enough to make them refuse orders.
But that's unlikely to happen. First, SCOTUS will likely just slow walk this until after the election, refusing to rule on it while also not allowing any injunctions. Three months after the election they rule against it.
Or, even if SCOTUS does strike it down, Trump can rely on ambiguity. The court strikes this one down? Three weeks before the election, Trump issues a new executive order. This does much the same thing as the one the court struck down, but it's based on a completely different legal authority. The military then no longer has a clear unambiguous ruling from the court on how to act.
The only way the military might refuse to follow orders is if Trump openly and clearly violates a direct SCOTUS ruling. And Trump can simply engineer things so that such a clear unambiguous case never happens. It's one thing for a group of soldiers to cite a direct court ruling in their refusal to follow orders. It's another for some 19 year olds to decide the constitutionality of a presidential action by themselves and refuse to intervene.
Kill him now!
Trump is the national emergency we need ceda An emergency funds to deal with him
He’ll be aged out by midterms.