I honestly have no idea how WaterWorld was not a huge hit, I loved that movie ... I'm also very afraid to re-watch it since I haven't seen it in quite a while.
It was a pretty big hit at the time but the production costs got so out of control I don't think it made it's money back. I'm sure in the long run it's done ok.
Eh...it may have made money, but even back then it was panned as a huge misfire, and probably hurt Costner's career for a while. There's a reason it's Sam's favorite movie in Generation V. The kid who's been held in psychiatric prisons his whole life.
I just watched Blade for the first time. The computer model of the ascension chamber felt a lot like the visualization of the Gibson mainframe operated by that magician/skateboarder duo
I think I'm confusing two scenes. One where the women and girl are effectively at Kostner's mercy and she offers herself to him so they don't get thrown over board. I -think- he turns her down and then there is a consensual act later.
Probably I was getting confused with blade runner.
It's absolutely INSANE, nothing like the games and somehow it still works in a weird way for me - and somehow still manages to show more love/respect to the source material than some other adaptations I've seen (even while being nothing like the source material)!
For anyone that hasn't looked into the behind the scenes of this movie, you NEED to!
The crew openly wore custom made shirts shitting on the directors, the actors were drunk most of the time, Leguizamo had his leg broken on set! ... Haskins was stabbed FOUR times, electrocuted, drowned AND had his finger broken [anytime you see him holding something over his hand, it's likely because he was hiding the cast]! Mario Mario had a lot of reasons to be so grumpy!
This is mine too. It's a cute, fun movie. Yes completely over-the-top stupid, but that's part of the enjoyment. I think a reason I liked it when everyone else seemed to hate it was that I didn't have a Nintendo as a kid, so I wasn't saddled with an expectation of what Mario should be.
I will die on this hill: Dude, Where's My Car is actually a good movie. People just can't see past the premise to realize it's executed extremely well.
We got free tickets when we went to go see Shaft and the film burned in the middle and they had to splice it together to get it going. We lost some dialogue at the Palmieri house but no action. Win-win.
We spent the free tickets to see Dude, and I still want my money back. And yes, I still reference the quotes whenever I can while I hate the movie, since while I'm a snob I'm also a deep nerd and must quote everything.
Oh it's bad. You'll guess the main plot about two minutes in and it never waves from that. The movie ends and you won't remember anyone's names or even what most of them look like.
Great music video though. Watch with a good sound system and a big OLED TV. The experience on a little phone or laptop screen with tinny speakers is going to be a 1/10.
There was a moment in the pitch meeting when the producers read, "then Willem Dafoe dresses up like a female prostitute to seduce the guards", and they were like yeah, let's fuckin make this movie.
It's terrible. Almost nobody can act. I suspect none of the writers had even looked at the game beyond a few screenshots. The script and plot are laughable.
But then Raul Julia shows up. He knows this is crap. But his kids love the games. He's literally dying of stomach cancer in every scene. He knows this is his last movie. He's going to fucking enjoy it, and so are you.
I was not prepared for how incredibly boring Birdemic would be. The second half is hilarious but the first half drags impossibly long. For a movie about birds killing people, the birds don't even show up until I think 47 minutes of this maybe 80 minute movie? I mean there's the occasional laugh in the first half. That poster that was just a piece of printed paper taped to a wall with Yoko Ono's website URL right next to that couple making out. I quote "she's my hot Ferrari" on occasion. But it just wasn't enough to justify half the movie being a romcom starring the most uncomfortable writing I've ever witnessed in film 😭 The director said he wanted this to be a "romantic thriller" but I'm not sure if he understood that you can tie two genres together at once...
I mean that I like it, but when showing coworkers or friends very few seem to think it is any good. It is now old enough for a cult following so it has got that going for it.
I think the issue with the sequels was there was quite a bit of lore to consume and you honestly didn't get the full picture if you only watched reloaded and resurrections.
What I mean by this is that the Wachowskis were very much involved in pretty much everything that involved the matrix be it the animatrix, the video games, or the comics and encyclopedia. So with the sequels in particular if you wanted to at least try and get a grasp on what was happening you pretty much had to watch at least the first 3 shorts of the Animatrix and especially "Kids Story" and play Enter The Matrix as they were all official canon and in many cases important to the story. So I mean unless you were a die hard Matrix fan you probably weren't going to watch the animatrix or play the game then you might be left in the dark.
Like for example the "Kid" that is introduced in reloaded. He makes a big deal out of being saved to which Neo, says twice, that he didn't save him and that the kid saved himself. It's not expanded on in the movies. So you're thinking "ok...maybe Neo is doubting his nature of being the one" but we know he isn't as he openly flaunts his power within the Matrix. It's not until you watch the Animatrix Short "Kids Story" which explains WHY Neo says that Kid saved himself and then it opens up an entire can of worms that actually helps you understand the ending of Reloaded and Revolutions. Kids Story is so damn pivotal to the overall lore of the Matrix and most people have never even seen nor heard of it.
I'm not even joking. The Animatrix is absolutely a must watch if you want to understand the Matrix movies.
As far as Resurrections goes...yeah it didn't serve a purpose other than Lana utilizing it as a form to cope with her parents deaths and to at least have a bit of control over her series as Warner Brothers was going to move forward with a sequel regardless if she and/or sister were involved or not. And again it's another part of the overall lore which you won't truly get unless you played The Matrix Online as it borrows quite a few elements/plot points from that. But the story itself is by far the weakest out of all of them as it simply didn't need to happen. like, at all. And even by the end of the movie you realize this because absolutely NOTHING changes. Nothing. No one wins, no one loses, things don't change. Everything is the exact same except Neo and Trinity are awake instead of sleeping. that's it.
exactly. And keep it mind it was ALL released within like a week or two of Reloaded. I was working at Best Buy when the sequel came out so I remember. Animatrix if I remember correctly literally released a few days prior to Reloaded. Hell I think Enter The Matrix released the exact same day.
Reloaded and Revolutions was one of those cases where a movie was so huge that they decided to make two sequels back to back.
The first movie would sometimes dip into weird metaphysics but it kept to its theme enough to remain in your head. It's a fairly straightforward monomyth hero's journey plot with themes of destiny versus agency.
The sequels were crammed full of pointless "lots of shit happens on screen" action scenes and pseudophilosophic drivel.
I liked reloaded and revolutions even on first viewing, but I didn't need them to feel the same way the first matrix movie felt in order to consider them good. Like, The Matrix stood out from pretty much every other movie I had seen before. You don't get that a second time right away, especially from another movie of the same type about the same thing. They continued and closed the story very well, but none of them were an origin story, and origin stories are pretty much always more awesome than the other movies in the same series, no matter what order they are made in.
The Matrix was unfollowable, and they managed to follow it ok. They were always gonna be worse in comparison, but they aren't actually bad.
I haven't seen Resurrections, not for any particular reason, just keep forgetting anytime I do manage to remember it, before I remember it long enough to see it.
Origin stories tend to resonate with people, it's basically "how did this person go from being a normal everyday nobody, to one of the most powerful people in the universe" and, if done right, you can empathize with their journey.
Some origin movies maybe suck at that, but that is them squandering an opportunity, you get alot of potential baked-in just from the concept alone.
The Matrix was maybe one of the most successful uses of an origin arc, but most origin movies have a similar free boost, whether the rest of the movie supports and earns that boost is up to them. But many still do.
Oh, I think we are talking about different things. I wouldn't call the matrix an origin film. I would call something an origin film if it takes a pre-established character and tells a story of how they became that character. Batman Begins and Solo would qualify for that, whereas The Matrix is just a original story. They tend to be lazy story writing and spend time ticking off the boxes of things the audience recognises. Then half of them include a clunky way to come up the the characters name or title drop.
Ah, well there is an official classification, that is what I am going by. An origin story can still be called an origin story even if it's the first story, if it follows the origin story format. If however the first story doesn't follow the origin story format, then it isn't an origin story even if it's the first story.
An origin story is named that based on what happens in it, it doesn't have to be a pre-quel to qualify.
I can. It was a great flick. They were in it to milk one more payday out of it, but I still enjoyed where it went.
In contrast, I felt Rel and Rev were a bad Aliens2 to Matrix's Alien. Full of action, none of the pacing. The wachowskis should've hit up the writer who wrote the stolen Matrix manuscript for a sequel instead, but they woulda had to pay her.
If I love it I objectively think its good. There are quite a few that people think were bad and most bombed hard and I loved them here goes one.
Hudson Hawk: Sandra Bernhard and Richard Grant were the most over the top bad guys. They were having a great time being that. The whole cast was just playing it like it was a blast to be there.
I wouldn't describe The Core as a trainwreck. The premise is the dumbest shit imaginable but somehow they managed to make an enjoyable film. The cast is great. It makes for a solid background movie to help you get though house chores or other menial work.
I once made a list of 7 movies that fit this criteria.
The Room, because duh. This movie is great because it is so terrible and sincerely thinks it is great. The story behind the movie is just as fantastic. If you must, get a hold of The Disaster Artist as an audio book. It is fantastic. Ignore and forget that piss tier James Franco movie that the book was based on. The book is so much better and it is hysterical to listen to in Greg's own voice + his Tommy impressions are perfect.
Winter's Tale - a supposed Adaptation of a Shakespeare play or something. In reality it is the most chaotic and hilariously terrible movie I can think of, complete with terrible Colin Firth haircut and Will Smith as an edge lord Devil. And so many more great things. I had a blast watching this one.
Jupiter Ascending. If I remember correctly, it was made by the siblings who made the Matrix and it is the most nonsensical sci-fi turd ever, but man is it funny. Unintentionally, might I add. I don't remember much from this film other than laughing so hard I was crying.
The Wicker Man woth Nick Cage. I love the original. That one is genuinely great and terrifying. The Nick Cage one is a clown show and no one can tell me that it isn't funny to see Nick Cage in a bear suit, punching women.
Show Girls. For obvious reasons. A total and utter mishandling of a very serious and at times horrific subject matter, but mishandled so poorly it surpasses being offensive and falls straight into hilarity.
Breaking Dawn Part 2. Martin Sheens laugh. Renesmee doll that was replaced with CGI horror. Grown man imprinting on a baby. Martin Sheen's laugh. Fakeout fight scene that made all the dead serious fangirls scream and cry in the cinema on release. "You nicknamed my daughter after the loc nest monster??" Also, Martin Sheen's laugh.
The Death Note Netflix Adaptation. I invited my anime friends to a watch along when this movie came out initially, because I knew what would happen when I did. The anger and outrage was interspersed with bewildered and hysterical laughter and replays of scenes that were so bad, nobody could believe their eyes. I was just there to sow the chaos at the time and harvest the reactions. It was wonderful.
Bonus movie: Velvet Buzzsaw, but it doesn't count because I genuinely think this one is a great satire and I genuinely enjoy the movie. It's just that almost everybody else who's seen it, seem to loathe it with a passion. So it's a reverse Killers of the Flower Moon for me, where everybody seem to love it, while I think it is total and utter ass. In both cases, I am left confused at the public opinion and I will stick with mine.
I think Jupiter ascending is a beautiful film, visually. Reincarnated princess falls in love with a space furry and Newt has mommy issues. Just mute it and play some music instead. There isn't really a plot to miss.
I think they liked that one. Only one of them was a one piece fan and she mentioned the Netflix one was decent. I haven't seen it myself, so I trust her judgment.
There is a movie called Club Paradise. Mid-80's comedy starring Robin Williams and Jimmy Cliff, Twiggy, a bunch of 80's comedy regulars, Peter O'Toole is in it. The plot of the film is local honest people vs corrupt government and business, but minute to minute it's mostly a spring break shenanigans movie starring a bunch of adults? Like, Rick Moranis and Eugene Levy play a pair of potheads named Barry and Barry who repeatedly fail to score weed and chicks.
It has mostly negative reviews, but I'm fond of it. It DOES NOT work as a cinema film, I cannot imagine going to a theater, sitting reverently and quietly as it boomed down at me, but it works on TV as "let's put a tape in while we're getting ready for Family Saturday Afternoon Hobby Outing/waiting for Family Saturday Afternoon Hobby Venue to open."
The show is awesome, but it's about 30% Twilight Zone, 20% Ghost in the Shell, and 50% incomprehensibly kinky fetish so esoteric that the censors didn't know that it ought to have been censored for TV release.
I'm gonna tentatively say Cloud Atlas, but I don't think it's terrible. I am aware that not a lot of people like it, and I believe if the Wachowskis had followed the book, it would have been better received.
Cloud Atlas, the book, was structured in a way that was easier to follow, and made for a narrative flow through its seven timelines. Seven timelines in and of itself is quite a tall order, but the point was that kindness and art resonate through each timeline. In the book, the first six timelines are told halfway through. At around the halfway point, you jump to the next timeline. When you get to the seventh, it plays through in its entirety (I think — I feel like the epilogue, if it was in the book, would have gone at the end — I haven't read the book yet, but it's on my list of books to read. I'm just aware of how it's formatted). Then the other six timelines finish, but this time in reverse order. So if the timelines are 1-7 and the halves are A and B, the book is basically 1A, 2A, 3A, 4A, 5A, 6A, 7A, 7B, 6B, 5B, 4B, 3B, 2B, and 1B. That makes sense. The film takes the book, cuts off the spine, throws all the pages up in the air, picks them up in random order, and then that's the screenplay. It jumps all over the place without rhyme or reason. And it's three fucking hours long!
The first time watching Cloud Atlas, I don't think anyone liked it. But once you know what's going on and you go back and watch it again, that second time, you know what all the stories are, and you're not getting thrown around as much. If I had the budget to adapt the book, I'd probably do it as anime and have 14 episodes, and you can see above how I'd do it. So each half would get a single episode. You'd be kinda lost for the first half, but then going through the second half, everything just clicks. I'm not sure how I'd do it as a film, except to say I fucking wouldn't. That the Wachowskis made it work for those of us with the patience to sit through a second and third viewing is kind of a miracle. At the very least I'd want to do a miniseries.
Cloud Atlas was not objectively terrible, but it was objectively flawed, and deeply at that. I still love it.
Also, Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves. Widely hated for Kevin Costner not being able to pull off an English accent and director Kevin Reynolds letting him get away with it. And yet, I don't think if Reynolds had recast Robin, it would have been as good. So if you look at the guys who were active in movies in 1991, you got some choices. Richard Gere probably could have pulled off the acting part. The machismo of Robin Hood? Of that Robin Hood? Maybe not. If you go with the classic Peter Pan-built Robin, and get rid of the war hero opening, maybe — but then how do you explain Morgan Freeman's character? And you don't write him out. There were plenty of actors who could have done the English accent and the action scenes, but there's something about Kevin Costner, American accent and all, that really tied that movie together. And it's kind of bad, Robin Hood with an American accent. I mean, what even is that? And yet, I love it.
Good song... but not his best. I prefer Summer of '69 and a couple others whose names escape me at the moment. Growing up in the 1980s he was always around. Everything I Do (I Do it for You) didn't revive his career, it was kind of at the end of his popularity. So for all the radio play it got, it didn't really help him as much as maybe it should have. He kept making music but it wasn't popular, or as popular.
I also enjoyed both of these movies. If you tell me that you also enjoyed Crash (2004) despite all the hate then I think we'll have to become best friends.
I did like Crash, though I also recognise its shortcomings. I feel like it's a fairy tale of sorts. X just happens to happen so Y can happen and leads to Z all because of a coincidence? Mainly referring to the invisible, bulletproof cloak, but also the thing with the cop and the Black lady. It's so carefully put together though, I have to give it respect. But it's in no way realistic. That's never been a requirement for me. Big Fish, which is basically Forrest Gump plus fantasy, most of it is stuff that could/would never happen... and yet, it works. So, why is Crash any different? Because it doesn't outwardly present as fantasy? All fiction is (somebody's) fantasy. Well, I mean if you make it up, it comes from the same place as fantasy. It could be comic or it could be tragic, but if you made it up, the end or the message justifies all the leaps to get to that point. Basically it's all fantasy. Because real life doesn't have to have a point or a message. It just is.
I can force myself past Costner’s accent. It’s Slater’s hair that yanks me out of immersion! I do love that movie though, I just wish they’d cast someone other than Christian Slater.
Yeah, I think back then Christian Slater was kind of his own brand, if the hair went, he went. And they wanted his name on the poster. I bet they would have loved to have his ass on display, rather than Costner's, if they could have had it that way. He was the one pulling the young women into the theater. Costner... maybe older women. Even back then. Though it was more of an action role for him... I remember a lot of the girls and women swooning over him a few years later in The Bodyguard though.
I've been told Madame Web is objectively bad. I like it. I like the atmosphere of it. I like the main character despite reports that the actress gave an intentionally bad performance. I like the Britney Spears song playing in the diner scene. I like the story of her suddenly having to look after three teenagers. I know there are plot holes but I don't care. I like the comedy, that may or may not have been intentional. I find the part where she "kidnaps" the girls funny. I like that Peter Parker is born in it, but I don't get why they don't say his name. Yeah, overall I like this movie but nobody else seems to.
You've probably never heard of it but you should watch it. if you're in your 20s and have the liver of a god then also try the drinking game.
It's a Japanese film from the late 90s/early 00s that stars the Japanese Rockabilly band "Guitar Wolf". the band consists of the lead, Guitar Wolf, as well as Bass Wolf and Drum Wolf. The film is ahead of its time, especially for Japan, as far as current social issues. I can't say which ones specifically as that would spoil the movie.
The film is centered around a fan of Guitar Wolf that wants to be as big a star as them. It is also a zombie movie. How the zombies came to be is believe to be from aliens but doesn't really specify how exactly. Nor does it specify the aliens intents and purposes but they're in the movie just...they're in the movie. There's also at least like 3 subplots that don't go anywhere or really have any effect on the overall movie.
Lethal Weapon 4 is a masterpiece compared to the dumpster fire Lethal Weapon 5 quickly turned into. So much unnecessary full frontal nudity and I'm pretty sure the guy playing Roger Murtaugh was wearing blackface.
Related rant: it doesn’t have to be perfect to be unironically enjoyable. 15 years of cynical YouTube reviewers have conditioned us to think otherwise.
Not a movie, but I’ve learned to love amateur sci fi stories because I love seeing someone’s raw imagination unfiltered by editors and focus groups, even if I have to slog through some bad prose. Sure it’s a different kind of enjoyment than I get out of more polished fare, but it is genuine appreciation.
Struggling with whether to up vote or down vote, because Repo is an amazing movie. Its definitely not for everyone, though, so I would give a recommendation without knowing the person's taste.
Fascinating, because I've watched this movie with multiple people and never had any of them dislike it. I can't say it's a good movie but it's certainly a experience
I don't love any movie I consider terrible, but I do enjoy some parts of movies I consider terrible.
I have a love hate relationship with Michael Bay Transformers. Love the character designs, the flashy action scenes, but I absolutely abhor the plot (yeah if you can call it a plot).
I definitely wouldn't class it as "objectively terrible" but I have been seeing a lot of sentiment that the tonal shift in Click made the movie awful, and if the script had been taken more seriously from the start that it could have been a great movie.
I actually found the movie to be great, it was one of my favourites when it first came out.
They really had something there with Margot Robbie as Harley Quinn. The aesthetic of the movie is cool, I didn't hate watching it in theaters even though it's pretty dumb.
It’s been years since I saw it, but it was my jam as a kid. Some sea people are mad and send their giant beetle thing, Megalon, to attack the surface, the sea people (Seatopians) also get help from aliens that send their kaiju, Gigan, to assist. A size changing robot, Jet Jaguar, gets his ass beat but Godzilla comes to the rescue in the nick of time. The end battle is a straight up WWE tag team matchup with kaijus!
Plus the movie ends with Jet Jaguar’s bad ass theme song and a freeze frame!
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People from the future come with a time machine and say they have to get rid of godzilla or he will destroy the world.
People from the present are like "ok cool".
They travel back to WWII times where godzilla is a dinosaur on an island that helps japanese soldiers fight americans, until the americans blast him with a battleship.
They then teleport godzilla into the ocean and leave 3 furbys on the island.
The island ends up being nuked which would have created godzilla but now creates king ghidora who the future people can control in present times and use him to try to take over.
The present people are like oh shit, we need godzilla to deal with this.
They send a nuclear submarine to where they dropped the dinosaur and find out that some other nuclear submarine had already crashed there and created him.
He then eats the one they sent as well and ends up even bigger and more powerful than he was before.
He beats the shit out of king ghidorah and goes on a rampage.
The present people are then like "oh shit, we need king ghidorah to deal with this" and one of the future people (and their terminator robot I forgot to mention earlier) switches sides to go back to the future and they find king ghidorahs corpse, which they rebuild into mecha king ghidorah and go back to the past to fight godzilla again and still lose.
godzilla also finds the leader of the soldiers from the islands at one point and blasts him. I don't remember how they actually got godzilla to leave at the end but that might have been it...
Also I'm pretty sure they used mecha king ghidorah's parts to make mecha godzilla in the next movie.
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Stealth is my guilty pleasure movie. I mean, it's not horrible, but it has its flaws. On the other hand, it's a fun action movie with some really good effects sequences.
Maybe it's the movie equivalent of "acquired taste". I loved it, even if the sound design gave me a headache, but I can't imagine anyone who doesn't already actively seek out strange movies enjoying it LOL
If it’s your thing then it’s perfection, top to bottom, but if it’s not your thing then it’s kind of a nauseating nightmare from what I’ve been told.
Reminds me of when I showed my ex Garth Marenghi’s Dark Place, the greatest tv event in world history, and her response was “I was waiting for it to be funny.”
I've loved this movie since I first saw it in the 90s. Thinking back on it, this movie really laid the blue print for Joss Whedon and James Gunn type MCU and DCU movies. Great action sequences, a good dose of humor, and decent story that doesn't pretend to be anything more than a fun movie.
Naked Space, a.k.a. The Creature Wasn't Nice. A terrible Leslie Nielson spoof movie from 1981 that looks like it was shot in a weekend for $500, but it's funny to a point and has some good lines.
Birdemic.
It's on almost every list of "worst movies of all time", deservedly.
But the enthusiasm of the people making it really shines through, even though they had zero budget or talent.
thank you so much!! just had a blast rewatching it after not having seen it for a long time. i guess the "code brown" joke (the president shitting his pants) is more current than ever.
While I didn’t love this movie, I don’t think it was terrible either lol. He’s a very charismatic actor and elevates any film he stars in, not just the ones where he is typecast as a villain.
I think it was poorly directed - it wasn’t the actors fault! The director was Paul Verhoeven, admittedly he had some successes in the USA after that (robocop was fun) but he created another badly directed movie with Black Book, which was again a pity, as Carice van Houten is a great actress.
Robot jox is hilariously irredeemable. I watched it again recently and it was horrible. I'm going to watch it again later in life when I forget that because I've convinced myself it is not.
Anything by Jason Pargin is awesome. The dude basically created the millenial internet discourse with Cracked. He’s now pretty big on things like TikTok and YouTube and I highly recommend following him.
Holy shit, there are others! I fucking loved the movie, considering the budget they did an OK job, it’s only like 1/3 of the book that has been randomized, but it gives that taste of the truly strange that is so rare to find. It’s a trash ass film, though, through and through. Great cast, though.
The books are my all time favorite series, I can’t wait for the next one. Have you read any of Jason Pargin’s other books? They’re all bangers.
Black Box Of Doom was really good, I highly recommend it. It’s very different from his other books as far as setting, since it’s set in the regular normal non-lovecraftian/Blade Runner world, but the story is just as gonzo as his other books, I had a blast reading it.
Plague dogs. That was the absolutely worst most depressing movie I've ever seen. It a masterwork. I don't even have people in my life I would subject them to the synopsis or "highlights" though, it's just so bleak.
Watched after Watership Down people recommend them on the same thread. Watership down is just a good story, a little heavy, but good. Plague dogs was much much more bleak then the WW2 allegory for me.
I haven't seen The Plague Dogs yet, but based on the rating and reviews, this looks like a very good movie and not at all "objectively terrible"!
In fact, I will take the reviews as a recommendation and see it soon! So thanks, I guess :)
It's a masterpiece for sure. But it's also objectively terrible in the most literal sense, in that it will scar you in a way that you'll carry with you forever.
The Last Airbender was awful, but enjoyable. You just need to forget about the anime series for a while, and enjoy the movie as it is. It's not meant to be a cult classic or anything reviewers would praise. Brains off, action on. That's all there's to it. Watch it once, enjoy your two hours and never tell anyone you actually had a good time unless you want to start a fight.
Hackers, Waterworld, The Postman
Them: "Waterworld is crap, it's just Mad Max on water"
Me: "that sounds awesome"
I honestly have no idea how WaterWorld was not a huge hit, I loved that movie ... I'm also very afraid to re-watch it since I haven't seen it in quite a while.
It was a pretty big hit at the time but the production costs got so out of control I don't think it made it's money back. I'm sure in the long run it's done ok.
They had to build the main set twice because of a hurricane.
They also had a chunk of the budget set aside to digitally un-recede Costner's receding hairline.
Eh...it may have made money, but even back then it was panned as a huge misfire, and probably hurt Costner's career for a while. There's a reason it's Sam's favorite movie in Generation V. The kid who's been held in psychiatric prisons his whole life.
It is very entertaining. And universal created a live action show at their theme park in Hollywood based on it, that's still running.
Dennis Hopper was just crushing it back in the day.
Hack the planet! God that movie is such an amazing time capsule.
"Twelve megabytes of RAM, 500 megabyte hard drive. Built-in spreadsheet capabilities and a modem that transmits at over 28,000 BPS."
I just watched Blade for the first time. The computer model of the ascension chamber felt a lot like the visualization of the Gibson mainframe operated by that magician/skateboarder duo
I have it on Blu-ray and I love it.
The postman was good. Sure it's a generic post-apocalyptic romp with a positive message. But I liked it.
It's so corny that it wraps around to feeling sincere.
More boobies would have made me love waterworld
Great concept though
There is that rape scene....
I apologise for my previous comments I actually haven't watched waterworld all the way through
I think I'm confusing two scenes. One where the women and girl are effectively at Kostner's mercy and she offers herself to him so they don't get thrown over board. I -think- he turns her down and then there is a consensual act later.
Probably I was getting confused with blade runner.
Super Mario Bros (1993)
This is mine too!
It's absolutely INSANE, nothing like the games and somehow it still works in a weird way for me - and somehow still manages to show more love/respect to the source material than some other adaptations I've seen (even while being nothing like the source material)!
For anyone that hasn't looked into the behind the scenes of this movie, you NEED to!
The crew openly wore custom made shirts shitting on the directors, the actors were drunk most of the time, Leguizamo had his leg broken on set! ... Haskins was stabbed FOUR times, electrocuted, drowned AND had his finger broken [anytime you see him holding something over his hand, it's likely because he was hiding the cast]! Mario Mario had a lot of reasons to be so grumpy!
Hey, what can I say? The mushroom kingdom is a dangerous place.
Came here to say this. It’s a great movie, even if it’s ridiculous.
Dennis hopper was just crushing it back in the day.
This is mine too. It's a cute, fun movie. Yes completely over-the-top stupid, but that's part of the enjoyment. I think a reason I liked it when everyone else seemed to hate it was that I didn't have a Nintendo as a kid, so I wasn't saddled with an expectation of what Mario should be.
So far ahead of the curve with the Isekai Sci-Fi Dystopia...
I always bring this one up in the "so bad it's good" conversations
Dude, Where's My Car
I will die on this hill: Dude, Where's My Car is actually a good movie. People just can't see past the premise to realize it's executed extremely well.
It all comes together so well in the end.
Also: Zoltan!
And then?
No, that's it, that's everything :D
Sweet! What does mine say?
Shibby
We got free tickets when we went to go see Shaft and the film burned in the middle and they had to splice it together to get it going. We lost some dialogue at the Palmieri house but no action. Win-win.
We spent the free tickets to see Dude, and I still want my money back. And yes, I still reference the quotes whenever I can while I hate the movie, since while I'm a snob I'm also a deep nerd and must quote everything.
Hudson Hawk, Bruce Willis' longtime passion project where he and Danny Aiello play singing cat burglars.
I genuinely love it despite it not being very good at all. Saw it in the theater knowing nothing at all about it.
God that movie is awful. I love it.
Bunny! Ball ball!
I didn't even know it was considered bad.
TRON: Legacy, although "terrible" might be bit harsh on it. I first watched the movie when I had a fever of 103 and it was perfect for that.
All-time great movie soundtrack, though.
That's my favorite music video
The Grid; a digital frontier
What am I supposed to do?
Survive
Have you tried the latest one?
No, been debating it. I keep hearing it's worse.
Oh it's bad. You'll guess the main plot about two minutes in and it never waves from that. The movie ends and you won't remember anyone's names or even what most of them look like.
Great music video though. Watch with a good sound system and a big OLED TV. The experience on a little phone or laptop screen with tinny speakers is going to be a 1/10.
It is
Very entertaining.
A little short on Olivia Wilde, though, which was an amazing feature of Legacy.
I wouldn't call it arguably terrible. It's not everyone's cup of tea but it's decent movie. Not great, but decent.
And since Tron Jared Leto lowered the bar, it looks even better.
The Boondocks Saints
There was a moment in the pitch meeting when the producers read, "then Willem Dafoe dresses up like a female prostitute to seduce the guards", and they were like yeah, let's fuckin make this movie.
Came here to say this!
Like a poor man's Lock Stock and 2 Smoking Barrels. I loved it too.
Street Fighter
It's terrible. Almost nobody can act. I suspect none of the writers had even looked at the game beyond a few screenshots. The script and plot are laughable.
But then Raul Julia shows up. He knows this is crap. But his kids love the games. He's literally dying of stomach cancer in every scene. He knows this is his last movie. He's going to fucking enjoy it, and so are you.
For you it's a guilty pleasure, for others it's just Tuesday.
"Quick, change the channel!"
That was beautiful *cries*
Troll 2
There’s even a documentary about how bad it is.
What do you love about it
Not an actual troll to be found anywhere. So awesome.
The documentary about the film is amazing
leprachaun movie, hilariously bad.
And compared to Birdemic, it is bad in a good way.
I mean, you shouldn't piss on hospitality like that.
I was not prepared for how incredibly boring Birdemic would be. The second half is hilarious but the first half drags impossibly long. For a movie about birds killing people, the birds don't even show up until I think 47 minutes of this maybe 80 minute movie? I mean there's the occasional laugh in the first half. That poster that was just a piece of printed paper taped to a wall with Yoko Ono's website URL right next to that couple making out. I quote "she's my hot Ferrari" on occasion. But it just wasn't enough to justify half the movie being a romcom starring the most uncomfortable writing I've ever witnessed in film 😭 The director said he wanted this to be a "romantic thriller" but I'm not sure if he understood that you can tie two genres together at once...
Freddy Got Fingered. It’s a hysterical mess.
“Daddy would you like some sausage.”
I think the reason the movie exists is because Tom green just needed an excuse to jerk off a horse.
"How am I supposed to do that, Betty? How am I supposed to eat food, draw, and play music at the same time?"
Its crazy how big of a deal Tom Green became and how quickly it all faded away.
Proud
Tremors
What's objectively terrible about Tremors?
The TV series and movies beyond the third one are objectively terrible. But the first two are solid films and the third one is good for a laugh.
maybe they meant one of the many completely unnecessary sequels?
Yes, those are just terrible but I didn't like them.
I mean that I like it, but when showing coworkers or friends very few seem to think it is any good. It is now old enough for a cult following so it has got that going for it.
I think the issue with the sequels was there was quite a bit of lore to consume and you honestly didn't get the full picture if you only watched reloaded and resurrections.
What I mean by this is that the Wachowskis were very much involved in pretty much everything that involved the matrix be it the animatrix, the video games, or the comics and encyclopedia. So with the sequels in particular if you wanted to at least try and get a grasp on what was happening you pretty much had to watch at least the first 3 shorts of the Animatrix and especially "Kids Story" and play Enter The Matrix as they were all official canon and in many cases important to the story. So I mean unless you were a die hard Matrix fan you probably weren't going to watch the animatrix or play the game then you might be left in the dark.
Like for example the "Kid" that is introduced in reloaded. He makes a big deal out of being saved to which Neo, says twice, that he didn't save him and that the kid saved himself. It's not expanded on in the movies. So you're thinking "ok...maybe Neo is doubting his nature of being the one" but we know he isn't as he openly flaunts his power within the Matrix. It's not until you watch the Animatrix Short "Kids Story" which explains WHY Neo says that Kid saved himself and then it opens up an entire can of worms that actually helps you understand the ending of Reloaded and Revolutions. Kids Story is so damn pivotal to the overall lore of the Matrix and most people have never even seen nor heard of it.
I'm not even joking. The Animatrix is absolutely a must watch if you want to understand the Matrix movies.
As far as Resurrections goes...yeah it didn't serve a purpose other than Lana utilizing it as a form to cope with her parents deaths and to at least have a bit of control over her series as Warner Brothers was going to move forward with a sequel regardless if she and/or sister were involved or not. And again it's another part of the overall lore which you won't truly get unless you played The Matrix Online as it borrows quite a few elements/plot points from that. But the story itself is by far the weakest out of all of them as it simply didn't need to happen. like, at all. And even by the end of the movie you realize this because absolutely NOTHING changes. Nothing. No one wins, no one loses, things don't change. Everything is the exact same except Neo and Trinity are awake instead of sleeping. that's it.
exactly. And keep it mind it was ALL released within like a week or two of Reloaded. I was working at Best Buy when the sequel came out so I remember. Animatrix if I remember correctly literally released a few days prior to Reloaded. Hell I think Enter The Matrix released the exact same day.
I enjoy rewatching reloaded the most
Reloaded and Revolutions was one of those cases where a movie was so huge that they decided to make two sequels back to back.
The first movie would sometimes dip into weird metaphysics but it kept to its theme enough to remain in your head. It's a fairly straightforward monomyth hero's journey plot with themes of destiny versus agency.
The sequels were crammed full of pointless "lots of shit happens on screen" action scenes and pseudophilosophic drivel.
I didn’t hate Reloaded, but Revolutions made me retroactively not care for it. It’s still a fun watch, though, although I’d never go out of my way.
I liked reloaded and revolutions even on first viewing, but I didn't need them to feel the same way the first matrix movie felt in order to consider them good. Like, The Matrix stood out from pretty much every other movie I had seen before. You don't get that a second time right away, especially from another movie of the same type about the same thing. They continued and closed the story very well, but none of them were an origin story, and origin stories are pretty much always more awesome than the other movies in the same series, no matter what order they are made in.
The Matrix was unfollowable, and they managed to follow it ok. They were always gonna be worse in comparison, but they aren't actually bad.
I haven't seen Resurrections, not for any particular reason, just keep forgetting anytime I do manage to remember it, before I remember it long enough to see it.
Can you clarify what you mean about origin stories?
Are you saying you like origin story movies? Especially ones that are released as a prequel to another movie?
I think origin movies generally suck, and I thought that was the common sentiment. Origin stories are a waste of screen time.
Origin stories tend to resonate with people, it's basically "how did this person go from being a normal everyday nobody, to one of the most powerful people in the universe" and, if done right, you can empathize with their journey.
Some origin movies maybe suck at that, but that is them squandering an opportunity, you get alot of potential baked-in just from the concept alone.
The Matrix was maybe one of the most successful uses of an origin arc, but most origin movies have a similar free boost, whether the rest of the movie supports and earns that boost is up to them. But many still do.
Oh, I think we are talking about different things. I wouldn't call the matrix an origin film. I would call something an origin film if it takes a pre-established character and tells a story of how they became that character. Batman Begins and Solo would qualify for that, whereas The Matrix is just a original story. They tend to be lazy story writing and spend time ticking off the boxes of things the audience recognises. Then half of them include a clunky way to come up the the characters name or title drop.
Ah, well there is an official classification, that is what I am going by. An origin story can still be called an origin story even if it's the first story, if it follows the origin story format. If however the first story doesn't follow the origin story format, then it isn't an origin story even if it's the first story.
An origin story is named that based on what happens in it, it doesn't have to be a pre-quel to qualify.
I think you're going to have to elaborate on what you mean by "official classification"
I can't defend Resurrections though.
I can. It was a great flick. They were in it to milk one more payday out of it, but I still enjoyed where it went.
In contrast, I felt Rel and Rev were a bad Aliens2 to Matrix's Alien. Full of action, none of the pacing. The wachowskis should've hit up the writer who wrote the stolen Matrix manuscript for a sequel instead, but they woulda had to pay her.
If I love it I objectively think its good. There are quite a few that people think were bad and most bombed hard and I loved them here goes one.
Hudson Hawk: Sandra Bernhard and Richard Grant were the most over the top bad guys. They were having a great time being that. The whole cast was just playing it like it was a blast to be there.
Hudson Hawk is one of my all time favorites, I quote it regularly and no one knows what I'm talking about.
Bunny, Ball Ball.
How's my driving? 1 800 I'm Gonna Fucking Die!
The Core
It's so fucking stupid that it is like a Trainwreck you can't look away from.
I wouldn't describe The Core as a trainwreck. The premise is the dumbest shit imaginable but somehow they managed to make an enjoyable film. The cast is great. It makes for a solid background movie to help you get though house chores or other menial work.
And I love it. Its the core or the martian if you don't know what to watch.
Apparently Van Helsing (2004) was critically panned and most people think it is bad but I will watch it every few years and find it very entertaining.
I loved that movie at the time, I really need to rewatch it to see if I still enjoy it as an adult.
Van Helsuck is what I remembered people calling it.
I once made a list of 7 movies that fit this criteria.
The Room, because duh. This movie is great because it is so terrible and sincerely thinks it is great. The story behind the movie is just as fantastic. If you must, get a hold of The Disaster Artist as an audio book. It is fantastic. Ignore and forget that piss tier James Franco movie that the book was based on. The book is so much better and it is hysterical to listen to in Greg's own voice + his Tommy impressions are perfect.
Winter's Tale - a supposed Adaptation of a Shakespeare play or something. In reality it is the most chaotic and hilariously terrible movie I can think of, complete with terrible Colin Firth haircut and Will Smith as an edge lord Devil. And so many more great things. I had a blast watching this one.
Jupiter Ascending. If I remember correctly, it was made by the siblings who made the Matrix and it is the most nonsensical sci-fi turd ever, but man is it funny. Unintentionally, might I add. I don't remember much from this film other than laughing so hard I was crying.
The Wicker Man woth Nick Cage. I love the original. That one is genuinely great and terrifying. The Nick Cage one is a clown show and no one can tell me that it isn't funny to see Nick Cage in a bear suit, punching women.
Show Girls. For obvious reasons. A total and utter mishandling of a very serious and at times horrific subject matter, but mishandled so poorly it surpasses being offensive and falls straight into hilarity.
Breaking Dawn Part 2. Martin Sheens laugh. Renesmee doll that was replaced with CGI horror. Grown man imprinting on a baby. Martin Sheen's laugh. Fakeout fight scene that made all the dead serious fangirls scream and cry in the cinema on release. "You nicknamed my daughter after the loc nest monster??" Also, Martin Sheen's laugh.
The Death Note Netflix Adaptation. I invited my anime friends to a watch along when this movie came out initially, because I knew what would happen when I did. The anger and outrage was interspersed with bewildered and hysterical laughter and replays of scenes that were so bad, nobody could believe their eyes. I was just there to sow the chaos at the time and harvest the reactions. It was wonderful.
Bonus movie: Velvet Buzzsaw, but it doesn't count because I genuinely think this one is a great satire and I genuinely enjoy the movie. It's just that almost everybody else who's seen it, seem to loathe it with a passion. So it's a reverse Killers of the Flower Moon for me, where everybody seem to love it, while I think it is total and utter ass. In both cases, I am left confused at the public opinion and I will stick with mine.
I feel like Jupiter Ascending would have been such a good book
I think Jupiter ascending is a beautiful film, visually. Reincarnated princess falls in love with a space furry and Newt has mommy issues. Just mute it and play some music instead. There isn't really a plot to miss.
What do your friends think of Netflix's One Piece? I liked the Avatar show, too, but One Piece I thought was excellent.
I think they liked that one. Only one of them was a one piece fan and she mentioned the Netflix one was decent. I haven't seen it myself, so I trust her judgment.
The Core
There is a movie called Club Paradise. Mid-80's comedy starring Robin Williams and Jimmy Cliff, Twiggy, a bunch of 80's comedy regulars, Peter O'Toole is in it. The plot of the film is local honest people vs corrupt government and business, but minute to minute it's mostly a spring break shenanigans movie starring a bunch of adults? Like, Rick Moranis and Eugene Levy play a pair of potheads named Barry and Barry who repeatedly fail to score weed and chicks.
It has mostly negative reviews, but I'm fond of it. It DOES NOT work as a cinema film, I cannot imagine going to a theater, sitting reverently and quietly as it boomed down at me, but it works on TV as "let's put a tape in while we're getting ready for Family Saturday Afternoon Hobby Outing/waiting for Family Saturday Afternoon Hobby Venue to open."
AeonFlux is pretty bad, I watch it every few years. Never saw the show.
The show is awesome, but it's about 30% Twilight Zone, 20% Ghost in the Shell, and 50% incomprehensibly kinky fetish so esoteric that the censors didn't know that it ought to have been censored for TV release.
The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension is a horrible movie and I absolutely love it! It is just so bad it is good.
Wrong, it is an amazing film. Nothing bad about it
I'm gonna tentatively say Cloud Atlas, but I don't think it's terrible. I am aware that not a lot of people like it, and I believe if the Wachowskis had followed the book, it would have been better received.
Cloud Atlas, the book, was structured in a way that was easier to follow, and made for a narrative flow through its seven timelines. Seven timelines in and of itself is quite a tall order, but the point was that kindness and art resonate through each timeline. In the book, the first six timelines are told halfway through. At around the halfway point, you jump to the next timeline. When you get to the seventh, it plays through in its entirety (I think — I feel like the epilogue, if it was in the book, would have gone at the end — I haven't read the book yet, but it's on my list of books to read. I'm just aware of how it's formatted). Then the other six timelines finish, but this time in reverse order. So if the timelines are 1-7 and the halves are A and B, the book is basically 1A, 2A, 3A, 4A, 5A, 6A, 7A, 7B, 6B, 5B, 4B, 3B, 2B, and 1B. That makes sense. The film takes the book, cuts off the spine, throws all the pages up in the air, picks them up in random order, and then that's the screenplay. It jumps all over the place without rhyme or reason. And it's three fucking hours long!
The first time watching Cloud Atlas, I don't think anyone liked it. But once you know what's going on and you go back and watch it again, that second time, you know what all the stories are, and you're not getting thrown around as much. If I had the budget to adapt the book, I'd probably do it as anime and have 14 episodes, and you can see above how I'd do it. So each half would get a single episode. You'd be kinda lost for the first half, but then going through the second half, everything just clicks. I'm not sure how I'd do it as a film, except to say I fucking wouldn't. That the Wachowskis made it work for those of us with the patience to sit through a second and third viewing is kind of a miracle. At the very least I'd want to do a miniseries.
Cloud Atlas was not objectively terrible, but it was objectively flawed, and deeply at that. I still love it.
Also, Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves. Widely hated for Kevin Costner not being able to pull off an English accent and director Kevin Reynolds letting him get away with it. And yet, I don't think if Reynolds had recast Robin, it would have been as good. So if you look at the guys who were active in movies in 1991, you got some choices. Richard Gere probably could have pulled off the acting part. The machismo of Robin Hood? Of that Robin Hood? Maybe not. If you go with the classic Peter Pan-built Robin, and get rid of the war hero opening, maybe — but then how do you explain Morgan Freeman's character? And you don't write him out. There were plenty of actors who could have done the English accent and the action scenes, but there's something about Kevin Costner, American accent and all, that really tied that movie together. And it's kind of bad, Robin Hood with an American accent. I mean, what even is that? And yet, I love it.
Oh no, I hear Bryan Adams
Canadian government has apologized for Bryan Adams on several occasions!
It's just a handful of songs that are probably good but A) not my style and B) ive heard so many thousands of times that they are the worst.
Like fuckin' Hotel California, man.
It was the Summer of '69.
no
Good song... but not his best. I prefer Summer of '69 and a couple others whose names escape me at the moment. Growing up in the 1980s he was always around. Everything I Do (I Do it for You) didn't revive his career, it was kind of at the end of his popularity. So for all the radio play it got, it didn't really help him as much as maybe it should have. He kept making music but it wasn't popular, or as popular.
I remember watching the music video at the end of the VHS over and over as a kid.
I also enjoyed both of these movies. If you tell me that you also enjoyed Crash (2004) despite all the hate then I think we'll have to become best friends.
I did like Crash, though I also recognise its shortcomings. I feel like it's a fairy tale of sorts. X just happens to happen so Y can happen and leads to Z all because of a coincidence? Mainly referring to the invisible, bulletproof cloak, but also the thing with the cop and the Black lady. It's so carefully put together though, I have to give it respect. But it's in no way realistic. That's never been a requirement for me. Big Fish, which is basically Forrest Gump plus fantasy, most of it is stuff that could/would never happen... and yet, it works. So, why is Crash any different? Because it doesn't outwardly present as fantasy? All fiction is (somebody's) fantasy. Well, I mean if you make it up, it comes from the same place as fantasy. It could be comic or it could be tragic, but if you made it up, the end or the message justifies all the leaps to get to that point. Basically it's all fantasy. Because real life doesn't have to have a point or a message. It just is.
Cloud Atlas and Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves are great movies!
I can force myself past Costner’s accent. It’s Slater’s hair that yanks me out of immersion! I do love that movie though, I just wish they’d cast someone other than Christian Slater.
Yeah, I think back then Christian Slater was kind of his own brand, if the hair went, he went. And they wanted his name on the poster. I bet they would have loved to have his ass on display, rather than Costner's, if they could have had it that way. He was the one pulling the young women into the theater. Costner... maybe older women. Even back then. Though it was more of an action role for him... I remember a lot of the girls and women swooning over him a few years later in The Bodyguard though.
I liked Shyamalanamans "The Last Airbender." I started hearing how everyone thought it was terrible, and I've kept my secret until now.
I'm genuinely impressed at how well the air/fire bending turned out.
Give "Ong" a sense of humor and call him "Aang" and it would have been way better received.
I never saw it but I heard people make fun of the earth bending most.
Ok this one hurts
Iron Sky. Its completely shut, but funny AS hell.
Iron Sky 2 takes everything in 1 and turns it up to 11. It is magnificent.
Is that the one with Moon Nazis? If so, then that movie is great!
It is
I've been told Madame Web is objectively bad. I like it. I like the atmosphere of it. I like the main character despite reports that the actress gave an intentionally bad performance. I like the Britney Spears song playing in the diner scene. I like the story of her suddenly having to look after three teenagers. I know there are plot holes but I don't care. I like the comedy, that may or may not have been intentional. I find the part where she "kidnaps" the girls funny. I like that Peter Parker is born in it, but I don't get why they don't say his name. Yeah, overall I like this movie but nobody else seems to.
I like Sydney Sweeney. And I like looking at Sydney Sweeney.
Plan Nine from Outer Space, of course.
Wildzero.
You've probably never heard of it but you should watch it. if you're in your 20s and have the liver of a god then also try the drinking game.
It's a Japanese film from the late 90s/early 00s that stars the Japanese Rockabilly band "Guitar Wolf". the band consists of the lead, Guitar Wolf, as well as Bass Wolf and Drum Wolf. The film is ahead of its time, especially for Japan, as far as current social issues. I can't say which ones specifically as that would spoil the movie.
The film is centered around a fan of Guitar Wolf that wants to be as big a star as them. It is also a zombie movie. How the zombies came to be is believe to be from aliens but doesn't really specify how exactly. Nor does it specify the aliens intents and purposes but they're in the movie just...they're in the movie. There's also at least like 3 subplots that don't go anywhere or really have any effect on the overall movie.
It's awesome.
Dark Star. Absu-f-ing trash movie, but still a classic.
Whoa whoa whoa... Dark Star may be low-budget (and show it) but it is absolutely not trash.
I fucking loved that movie.
I love it, too, but i love it for being trashy.
My brain read that as DeepStar Six for some reason.
Screwed
Early Dave Chappelle and Norm fucking MacDonald. Also Sarah Silverman and Danny DeVito.
How have I never heard of this movie? It sounds amazing
I recently picked up a copy of Beer League at a thrift store.
Their normal price for DVDs is $1, but it was a 50% off sale.
It was definitely worth the 50¢.
If it is anywhere near as fun as Beerfest, I'm gonna give it a go!
Battlefield Earth.
Travolta prancing around a B movie set high AF on scientology will never not be peak.
All the movies by Bud Spencer and Terrence Hill.
It doesn't matter which one, because the plot is always the same.
Moonfall. Terrible ratings, etc, but I own that shit on Bluray cause I love it so much.
I'm a sucker for disaster movies and I fucking love that one.
I mean it in the best way possible when I say that movie is so dumb. Me and my best friend saw that in theaters and had a great time!
Lethal Weapon #4
The plot is "have seen it before, many times".
The stunts are "have seen it before, and after, many times".
But I just love their jokes.
Lethal Weapon 4 is a masterpiece compared to the dumpster fire Lethal Weapon 5 quickly turned into. So much unnecessary full frontal nudity and I'm pretty sure the guy playing Roger Murtaugh was wearing blackface.
Lethal Weapon 5 hasn't been made yet.
What was it that you saw...?
Edit: wait those guys look familiar
Edit2: Goddamn it
Related rant: it doesn’t have to be perfect to be unironically enjoyable. 15 years of cynical YouTube reviewers have conditioned us to think otherwise.
Not a movie, but I’ve learned to love amateur sci fi stories because I love seeing someone’s raw imagination unfiltered by editors and focus groups, even if I have to slog through some bad prose. Sure it’s a different kind of enjoyment than I get out of more polished fare, but it is genuine appreciation.
Repo! The Genetic Opera. I stopped recommending it after five separate people all said they hated it lol
Struggling with whether to up vote or down vote, because Repo is an amazing movie. Its definitely not for everyone, though, so I would give a recommendation without knowing the person's taste.
I love this movie and I will never stop recommending it
One of my friends in college loved this movie! He showed it to me and I loved it too.
My other friends don't like it.
Fascinating, because I've watched this movie with multiple people and never had any of them dislike it. I can't say it's a good movie but it's certainly a experience
I don't love any movie I consider terrible, but I do enjoy some parts of movies I consider terrible.
I have a love hate relationship with Michael Bay Transformers. Love the character designs, the flashy action scenes, but I absolutely abhor the plot (yeah if you can call it a plot).
Dr Mordrid. I will forever be salty that Jeffrey Combs did not get a cameo in Multiverse of Madness.
I definitely wouldn't class it as "objectively terrible" but I have been seeing a lot of sentiment that the tonal shift in Click made the movie awful, and if the script had been taken more seriously from the start that it could have been a great movie.
I actually found the movie to be great, it was one of my favourites when it first came out.
Hard agree. Love that movie
Same. Click has this crazy uncomfortable limbo it just keeps the whole movie in, but it is really good.
Click was what first came to mind for me.
I don't think the movie is "objectively awful." I'd wager a lot of people who disagree like considerably worse movies without even realizing it.
I agreed completely until Downsizing came out. What the fuck was that movie even about?
Suicide Squad featuring Will Smith. Dog water movie but it gets my monkey brain somehow
They really had something there with Margot Robbie as Harley Quinn. The aesthetic of the movie is cool, I didn't hate watching it in theaters even though it's pretty dumb.
Godzilla vs Megalon
It’s been years since I saw it, but it was my jam as a kid. Some sea people are mad and send their giant beetle thing, Megalon, to attack the surface, the sea people (Seatopians) also get help from aliens that send their kaiju, Gigan, to assist. A size changing robot, Jet Jaguar, gets his ass beat but Godzilla comes to the rescue in the nick of time. The end battle is a straight up WWE tag team matchup with kaijus!
Plus the movie ends with Jet Jaguar’s bad ass theme song and a freeze frame!
I hate to break it to you, but those are just actors in suits. That isn't even the real Godzilla!
Nooooooo! This is fake news. FAKE NEWS!
Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance - one of the worst Marvel adaptations, but also one of the most unintentionally funny movies of all time.
Nic Cage trying to stop an old man from getting inside a little boy?
Establishing that any vehicle Ghost Rider drives gets a hellish makeover so they can have a flaming Bagger 288 for an action set piece?
Pure cinema.
Super Troopers. It is such a 'I dont know how we got the money for this script but here we fucking go' movie. Good fun, good laughs.
The first few minutes of that movie are comedic gold.
Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah. The plot of that movie is crazy.
that had a plot? its mostly showcasing kaijus that people are fond of, and licensed from japan IP.
Here's what I remember of it:
::: spoiler spoiler People from the future come with a time machine and say they have to get rid of godzilla or he will destroy the world.
People from the present are like "ok cool".
They travel back to WWII times where godzilla is a dinosaur on an island that helps japanese soldiers fight americans, until the americans blast him with a battleship.
They then teleport godzilla into the ocean and leave 3 furbys on the island.
The island ends up being nuked which would have created godzilla but now creates king ghidora who the future people can control in present times and use him to try to take over.
The present people are like oh shit, we need godzilla to deal with this.
They send a nuclear submarine to where they dropped the dinosaur and find out that some other nuclear submarine had already crashed there and created him.
He then eats the one they sent as well and ends up even bigger and more powerful than he was before.
He beats the shit out of king ghidorah and goes on a rampage.
The present people are then like "oh shit, we need king ghidorah to deal with this" and one of the future people (and their terminator robot I forgot to mention earlier) switches sides to go back to the future and they find king ghidorahs corpse, which they rebuild into mecha king ghidorah and go back to the past to fight godzilla again and still lose.
godzilla also finds the leader of the soldiers from the islands at one point and blasts him. I don't remember how they actually got godzilla to leave at the end but that might have been it...
Also I'm pretty sure they used mecha king ghidorah's parts to make mecha godzilla in the next movie. :::
Robot jox
The first Transformers movie.
Animated or live action?
The first Transformers was a cultural event almost on par with the first Matrix.
It's a shame the direction movies went in after it, but at the time it was unlike anything people had seen.
I rented Doom with The Rock and Karl Urban when it went to video and proceeded to watch it like 6 times.
Stealth is my guilty pleasure movie. I mean, it's not horrible, but it has its flaws. On the other hand, it's a fun action movie with some really good effects sequences.
Battleship
mine is Pluto Nash. I offer no real defense for the movie, it's a hot mess, but I've always enjoyed it for some reason.
"oops"
Ice Pirates, I know, I know. But I can't help it.
The 1984 film? Wow. Haven't thought about that in forever. Kid me loved it.
Yarp! We recorded it from HBO on VHS, back in the day and watched it a bunch.
Tetsuo: The Iron Man.
Pure. Fucking.
MagicInsanity.At first glance I thought this said “The Iron Giant” and I was about to throw hands
How is Tetsuo 'objectively terrible'?
Personally, I think it’s a masterpiece. No notes. The people I’ve shown it to, on the other hand, have expressed different opinions.
Maybe it's the movie equivalent of "acquired taste". I loved it, even if the sound design gave me a headache, but I can't imagine anyone who doesn't already actively seek out strange movies enjoying it LOL
If it’s your thing then it’s perfection, top to bottom, but if it’s not your thing then it’s kind of a nauseating nightmare from what I’ve been told.
Reminds me of when I showed my ex Garth Marenghi’s Dark Place, the greatest tv event in world history, and her response was “I was waiting for it to be funny.”
Demolition Man
I've loved this movie since I first saw it in the 90s. Thinking back on it, this movie really laid the blue print for Joss Whedon and James Gunn type MCU and DCU movies. Great action sequences, a good dose of humor, and decent story that doesn't pretend to be anything more than a fun movie.
Naked Space, a.k.a. The Creature Wasn't Nice. A terrible Leslie Nielson spoof movie from 1981 that looks like it was shot in a weekend for $500, but it's funny to a point and has some good lines.
Spaceballs, it just makes fun of itself and the space genre that existed at the time, the dancing alien is still ridiculous even now.
Spaceballs is an objectively good movie.
This was the first movie I saw with friends at the theatre without parents supervision. We were 6 or maybe 7 years old. Now it is unthinkable.
Birdemic.
It's on almost every list of "worst movies of all time", deservedly.
But the enthusiasm of the people making it really shines through, even though they had zero budget or talent.
Specifically the Rifftrax version.
Bad Ben. Its a series of movies on amazon made by one guy, his apple home security cameras, and what appear to be ms paint-esque drawings.
I quote bad ben, and its sequel badder ben on a weekly basis
Monsters vs Aliens. One of the most fun and referenceable movies of all time.
thank you so much!! just had a blast rewatching it after not having seen it for a long time. i guess the "code brown" joke (the president shitting his pants) is more current than ever.
"I may not have a brain, gentlemen... but I have an idea"
Driven: absolutely a dog shit terrible car racing movie, but absolutely fantastic dog shit at the same time.
Saw this in the theater with my girlfriend at the time and both loved it, just pure dumb fun
Spiderman 3
I feel like people got the wrong idea based on their criticism of Peter during his descent into evil.
How's the pie?
Resident Evil: welcome to Raccoon City.
I will die in this hill, it's a decent movie even if it's not 100% with the source material
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Turks fruit with Rutger Hauer en Monique van der Ven.
While I didn’t love this movie, I don’t think it was terrible either lol. He’s a very charismatic actor and elevates any film he stars in, not just the ones where he is typecast as a villain.
I think it was poorly directed - it wasn’t the actors fault! The director was Paul Verhoeven, admittedly he had some successes in the USA after that (robocop was fun) but he created another badly directed movie with Black Book, which was again a pity, as Carice van Houten is a great actress.
The Godmonster of Indian Flats.
You could pause the movie after any scene, try and guess what will happen next, and always be wrong.
The Adventures of Ford Fairlane
Robot jox is hilariously irredeemable. I watched it again recently and it was horrible. I'm going to watch it again later in life when I forget that because I've convinced myself it is not.
John dies at the end, I really like the book series and some of the lines are great but overall a poorly edited garbage movie
Most of the Halloween movies, resident evil, and underworld are sloppy messes I'm here for just to see how weird they go
And a bunch of the cheap, pulp horror like Troma and actiony Neil Breen that aren't on most streaming services
I loved the John dies at the end series, I didn't know they were adapted into a movie!
The book is pretty campy already, I can easily imagine the movie being awful!
Anything by Jason Pargin is awesome. The dude basically created the millenial internet discourse with Cracked. He’s now pretty big on things like TikTok and YouTube and I highly recommend following him.
Holy shit, there are others! I fucking loved the movie, considering the budget they did an OK job, it’s only like 1/3 of the book that has been randomized, but it gives that taste of the truly strange that is so rare to find. It’s a trash ass film, though, through and through. Great cast, though.
The books are my all time favorite series, I can’t wait for the next one. Have you read any of Jason Pargin’s other books? They’re all bangers.
Yeah! The Zoey Ashe series is great too. I haven't read the last book he released yet but I do really enjoy his stories and style.
Black Box Of Doom was really good, I highly recommend it. It’s very different from his other books as far as setting, since it’s set in the regular normal non-lovecraftian/Blade Runner world, but the story is just as gonzo as his other books, I had a blast reading it.
VHF
is it objectively terrible if it was designed to be so. My philosiraptor might be having a stroke.
(I assumed you meant UHF)
Ready to Rumble.
Night Patrol and The Party Animal
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_Patrol_(1984_film)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Party_Animal
EDIT: I linked the wrong Night Patrol film.
Now there is a movie I haven't thought about in decades.
Plague dogs. That was the absolutely worst most depressing movie I've ever seen. It a masterwork. I don't even have people in my life I would subject them to the synopsis or "highlights" though, it's just so bleak.
Watched after Watership Down people recommend them on the same thread. Watership down is just a good story, a little heavy, but good. Plague dogs was much much more bleak then the WW2 allegory for me.
I haven't seen The Plague Dogs yet, but based on the rating and reviews, this looks like a very good movie and not at all "objectively terrible"!
In fact, I will take the reviews as a recommendation and see it soon! So thanks, I guess :)
It's a masterpiece for sure. But it's also objectively terrible in the most literal sense, in that it will scar you in a way that you'll carry with you forever.
I'll try to be prepared...
I have to stop and watch Youngblood whenever I come across it.
He man and the masters of the universe.
Courtney Cox's big breakout.
The Cabinet of Dr Caligari. And all the reboots. I think they are just too weird for most folks.
How is that objectively terrible at all? The original anyway
Movie 43
Thanks for all the suggestions, I think I now have a late new year's resolution.
I'll download all of them this weekend and watch as many as possible the end of the year.
The Last Airbender was awful, but enjoyable. You just need to forget about the anime series for a while, and enjoy the movie as it is. It's not meant to be a cult classic or anything reviewers would praise. Brains off, action on. That's all there's to it. Watch it once, enjoy your two hours and never tell anyone you actually had a good time unless you want to start a fight.
All of the Sharknado movies
They said objectively terrible
Monty Python and The Holy Grail
Hey, if you're gonna make a silly dumb parody movie, go all the way hahaha!
That movie is anything BUT terrible. You should be ashamed of yourself