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Trump to meet Venezuela’s Machado and says it would be ‘great honor’ to take her Nobel Prize

Donald Trump has said it would be “an honor” take Venezuelan opposition leader Maria Corina Machado’s Nobel Peace Prize if she offered it to him, as he prepares to meet the exiled politician next week.

Machado has been in hiding due to persistent threats on her life, emerging only briefly in Oslo after a three-day mission in which she was smuggled out of the country with the help of the U.S. military for the Nobel ceremony.

Trump to meet Venezuela’s Machado and says it would be ‘great honor’ to take her Nobel Prizehttps://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/venezuela-machado-nobel-prize-trump-b2897335.htmlOpen linkView original on lemmy.world
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LOGIC💣reply
lemmy.world

It reminds me of when, in his first term, a wheelchair bound veteran gave Trump his Purple Heart, and Trump's response, if I remember correctly, was, "I've always wanted one of these."

Trump couldn't even pretend to care about the veteran and just made it about himself.

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ThePantserreply
sh.itjust.works

He also stole a football (soccer) trophy last year. And then put himself in the winners circle and then stole one of their medals. He is the definition of stolen valor.

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Lmao, I did that in high school. My grade was called to the podium to receive a medal and I stand up with all the guys that actually played sports. When the PE teacher were giving the medals he said to me that I better join the team next year.

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Taldanreply
lemmy.world

There is a fundamental psychological difference between Trump and me. I can't imagine getting any joy out of a trophy I did nothing to earn

Putin, at least, I can kind of understand. It was a power play. He did it to prove he could rob someone of their most prized possession in front of their face, with zero consequences

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What's wild is every diatribe I've ever heard about participation trophies has been from a Maga voter.

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Sure, if Putin had started a war and then forced a person to give him the ring to get him to stop bombing their country.

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marcosreply
lemmy.world

Didn't you know that Nobel prizes were bearer tokens?

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I mugged Syukuro Manabe the other day and found the a Nobel Prize for physics in his wallet. I'm super smart now.

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sopuli.xyz

The obvious play here is for Machado to give Trump a blatantly fake knockoff of her Nobel Prize. If Trump doesn't immediately realize it he will be unable to admit he got duped later and double down on his prize being real.

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But Trump is a gold medalist in mental gymnastics. He would have no problem spinning it in a way his base would eat up.

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Give him one made of chocolate. See how long it takes for him to notice.

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piefed.zip

How could she transfer the Nobel prize? Sure, prize winners get a medal, a diploma, and monetary award, but what's really important is the recognition and the honor of being a Nobel laureate. A lot of them give the prize money to charity, and...

...oh lord, it's the gold medal. [REDACTED] is such a toddler that he's captivated by shiny, gold baubles.

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REDACTEDreply
infosec.pub

[REDACTED] is such a toddler that he's captivated by shiny, gold baubles.

Hey what the fuck man?

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No no, you see...the brackets imply it's optional. You are not optional. You are EXPECTED!

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He's a malignant narcissist. He's literally crazy. It wouldn't surprise me if all of the actions he's taken against Venezuela since the Prize was announced comes down to this attempt to literally start a war to steal it and then scream "Nah nah nah! I'm as good as Obamna! No! Better! The best!"

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I mean, Trump stole the soccer Club World Cup trophy and put it in the Oval office, leaving the actual champions with a replica.

He doesn't give a shit about the accomplishment, only about the prize.

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All we've needed this whole time is a raccoon trap.

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It's like the Purple Heart all over again.

Though at the same time, it's not really that much of a surprise, is it? The man loves gold-coloured things.

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PattyMcBreply
lemmy.world

He wants every single cent and the clout. Just like the biggest shit on the face of this planet (ever) would

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Using a nations military to declare a war in order to physically steal a nobel prize is really something.

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To be fair, the actual recipient used the Nobel peace prize speech to call for the war.

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Did...did tRump really start a war to steal a peace prize? Holy shit I hate it here!

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I would be honored if Michael Phelps gave me all his gold medals from Beijing. Then I'd be the best swimmer of all time.

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Remembering back to Trump 1.0, he visited a wounded soldier in the hospital, and admired his Purple Heart, and the MAGA-struck moron (maybe he was medicated) offered it to Trump, who actually took it, saying "I've always wanted one of these."

If you wanted one, go get yourself a traumatic brain injury in a war zone. It would probably improve his cognitive abilities.

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Read up on Machado. She's a real capitalist enabling cunt. She probably had a role to play in all that's happening.

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A true traitor of the people. Par for the course of Nobel peace prize winners. Kissinger won one, for example.

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  • Wins the prize.
  • Sees tRump whining about not winning it for being the worst thing since Hitler.
  • Offers tRump the peace prize medal to remove Maduro.
  • tRump does the removal.
  • Visits later on and returns home with a new Nobel medal.

I swear, if I'm right I will shit my pants live on social media...

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

So that's what's truly behind the invasion. Oil is just a cover. He just wants that Nobel price.

Honestly, seeing how crooked, petty and deranged he is, I wouldn't be surprised anymore if this would actually be true.

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Jumutareply
sh.itjust.works

pretty sure the nobel prize is a cover for the oil/subjugation, actually I'm convinced his entire personality is a cover really

it gets people talking and stops them from worrying about the things that actually move money and resources in this world

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

I've talked to people who voted for Trump. I asked why they voted for him. Their answer: "I don't agree with him on any level, but he talks in a way I can understand and other politicians I agree with more I don't understand, so I just voted for him."

Honestly, what the actual fuck.

Facts and logic are of the past somehow. The dystopian world portrayed in the movie Idiocracy became a reality, although that movie was way too optimistic: they listed to the smart person.

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Jumutareply
sh.itjust.works

that's really interesting and sad, I wonder how much of that is them actually not being able to understand vs them being convinced they can't understand

kinda feels like the worst type of a feedback loop where people just start rejecting external information

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Politics are getting more extreme. Screaming people, far against each other, no middle area, etc. Many just don't have the energy to follow all that bullshit. Going back and forth. They just want something clear instead of difficult choices. It drains me too, but I can't vote on something I do not support and I need to know which politicians are full of shit and spread fake news.

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Henry fucking Kissinger was awarded an Nobel. Obama too, despite having just acceded to the presidency and done nothing yet (he would go on and become one of the most prolific drone striker ever). The "peace" Nobel prize is now and always has been a bad taste joke.

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lemmy.world

Ivan Gorchev, sailor on the freight ship ‘Rangoon’, was not yet twenty-one when he won the Nobel Prize in physics. To win a scientific award at such a romantically young age is unprecedented, though some people might consider the means by which it was achieved a flaw. For Ivan Gorchev won the Nobel Prize in physics in a card game, called macao, from a Professor Bertinus, on whom the honour had been bestowed in Stockholm by the King of Sweden a few days earlier. But those who are always finding fault don’t like to face facts, and the fact of the matter is that Ivan Gorchev did win the Nobel Prize at the age of twenty-one.

Opening lines from the novel “The Fourteen-Carat Roadster” by Jenő Rejtő (P. Howard)

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From what I remember, it is. I read it very long ago as a kid, and I found it quite funny. Sort of a parody of popular adventure novels at that time (1930s), making fun of the usual tropes. Lot of things inspired by the writer’s own extensive travels in Western Europe and North Africa. It’s probably avaiable for pennies or free now.

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"Oil industry's chosen candidate happy to swap worthless bauble for entire country"

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feddit.org

tbh the world noble peace price is a joke since obama got it for anouncing stuff, not even following through.

and this shitshow is doubling down on it

a fake price for a fake man

it should have never been near 'murica so it doesn't even matter when trump gets one too

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I think it's weird how conservatives cried over Obama getting the Nobel for basically nothing, but now, Trump's fan club is getting him the Nobel a week after the military raid.

Not saying Obama deserved the prize, but at least it went through the committee. Trump, of course, is not big on the whole "going through the committee" thing.

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I thought that Obama got it for the Iran peace deal, despite being the bomber in chief.

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mander.xyz

To be clear, this opposition leader applauded the US's murder of Venezuelan boats and has been promising to privatize Venezuela's resources and public sector.

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Eh, Trump fucking with the US's own puppets is kinda funny. The enemies of the Venezuelan people are fighting.

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The Nobel committee announce that the "Peace Prize" cannot be transferred or shared.

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apftwbreply
lemmy.world

Yeah kinda. Obama got one and he feels immaculated by that.

Edit: emasculated not immaculated lol

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lemmy.world

It's fair to say that if that happens, the whole Nobel Peace Prize thing will become worthless.

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adultswim.fan

It already was when they gave it to Obama while he was drone striking civilians.

I mean, any US president winning it would invalidate it.

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It became worthless in 1973 when they awarded it to Henry Kissinger

Kissinger was a war mongering piece of shit. Untold number of people died horribly violent deaths because of him. Small pox is more deserving of a peace prize than Kissinger, because at least it kills everyone equally. Kissinger targeted the poorest and most vulnerable

I look forward to someday pissing on his grave

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Well the fact that they gave her one of the first place means it's kind of worthless, hell they gave one to Kissinger. It's always been worthless.

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lemmy.ca

I hope she assassinates him by poisoning the peace prize

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lemmy.world

She's pretty pro-trump, she probably will give it to him; it seems like an incredibly obvious bribe.

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MBMreply
lemmings.world

Is she actually pro-Trump or does she just really need his good graces? (genuine question, I don't know much about Machado)

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She's pretty pro-trump, but to my eye the distinction between if she's courting trump because she just wants the influence he'll bring or if she genuinely believes in his insanity it seems like the same result to me - she's willing to treat with a murdering pedophile wannabe tyrant for power, that's pretty damning on it's own.

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Sounds like a threat to me...
Imagine what could happen if she wouldn't give it to him

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that's not how it works, lol.. he wants a nobel peace prize with the name Machado on it?

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lemmy.ca

The idea of transferring a Nobel prize makes no logical sense. It's like transferring an academy award. You can give away your trophy but you're still the one the academy officially gave an award to in recognition of your achievements. You can't give away the prestige. You can't give away the record that you were awarded the prize.

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You're missing the punchline that it's the PEACE prize, and Trump wants to acquire it through force.

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lemmy.ca

Trump is so pathetic, why is MAGA attracted to him?

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Yes he is pathetic and he is a bully.

And too many people think bullies that just take what they want are 'strong'.

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Well, good thing it doesn't matter who or what possesses the prizes. Otherwise, I guess some museum somewhere has Nobels too. (And the British Museum owns Egypt, on account of them having some pharaoh's jewels or something.)

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fedia.io

How does this timeline just keep on getting stupider and stupider like this?

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How's did the horrible person even win this? What a fucken joke

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