US will require EU citizens to give all biometric data including DNA in new ESTA requirements
High Value Data Elements
To comply with the January 2025 E.O. (14161), and the April 4,
2025, Memorandum Updating All Forms to Collect Baseline
Biographic Data, CBP will add several “high value data fields” to the
ESTA application, when feasible. This is in addition to the information
already collected in the ESTA application.
The high value data fields include:
a. Telephone numbers used in the last five years;
b. Email addresses used in the last ten years;
c. IP addresses and metadata from electronically submitted photos;
d. Family member names (parents, spouse, siblings, children);
e. Family number telephone numbers used in the last five years;
f. Family member dates of birth;
g. Family member places of birth;
h. Family member residencies;
i. Biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris;
j. Business telephone numbers used in the last five years;
k. Business email addresses used in the last ten years.
At this point why would anyone from civilized world even want to visit the ex-colonies?
Hey, what did Canada do? Or eTA isn't even as invasive as the EU's proposed ETIAS, and certainly nothing approaching the anal-probe-level personal violations of the ESTA. And we need tourism. The US is fucking our economy in a massive way.
L take brother.
Lol?
Calling Europe the "civilzed world" and referring to other places as "ex-colonies" has deeply racist undertones. I am sorry that calling this out can only be seen as "ruzzian bots" by the folks in this community, especially when I have no sympathy for russia 😅.
I guess this place ia truly becoming like reddit now. Where people downvote shit without understanding it.
I think the problem was that you wrote a comment that wasn't understandable
Every other country should apply the same list on US citizens.
Or just ban US citizens. Fuck them.
The people trying to escape are not the ones you should be angry at. Those are often the first people sent to the camps.
The people trying to escape should be the people trying to fight. If there are camps, you done fucked up large. Time to fix yo shit or die trying.
Don't be like your enemy, be better;
USA citizens did nothing wrong (beside voting trump but it's not all of them ofc)
Edit: i don't understand why y'all want to punish every citizen of USA, even those that did not voted trump or those that are actively agains him and do protests
It's like saying Russian people did nothing wrong besides voting for Putin, but it's not all of them ofc.
I would agree if it weren't painfully obvious the Russian elections that brought put in in weren't heavily influenced by putin-run domestic terrorism and election fraud.
Wait, actually, it still is a good comparison.
Carry on.
In both cases, the war machine will become weaker if it's easier for the smart ones to leave.
I am saying that not all USA citizens voted trump so they shouldn't be punished for that, it's like if i suddently decide to ban all german people from my country because of hitler, it just make no sense at all
So maybe other countries should require US citizens to submit their last five years of social media history so they can block any maga idiots. ;-)
Expect that's exactly what should happen. If the people don't rise up to fix the shit thats happening then they are complicit.
The germans fought back just as much as the stupid ones helped during hitlers reign.
Till the American people actually start fucking doing something. Then guess fucking what.
Punish everyone.
Not it isn't. 80% =/= 35%
Yep and the ones traveling internationally probably didn't vote for Trump but idiots love to downvote a good point.
That parenthetical does a lot of lifting in there…
Lol be better got you Trump.
Noz horrible campaigning and racists got us trump
I didn't vote Trump
Do protests? Oh good here I thought they were doing absolutely nothing.
Collective punishment is the only way to stop stupid from putting stupid in power.
We the people picked this. Even the ones that didn't. Everyone is equally at fault no matter what or the circumstances.
That's the very fucking definition of democracy.
We all get to enjoy the benefits when we do well and we all get punished when we fuck up. We arent a dictatorship. We can't just blame our government for sucking.
The people ARE at fault.
But not ALL the people, many didn't voted trump and many are doing protests/manifestations, not ALL people are fault.
Doing that shit of punishing everyone who is citizen in USA is so fucking stupid and childish
The USA is functionally an oligarchy, not a democracy. The groups with the most money hold untoward amounts of explicit and implicit power. Moneyed business interests own and control entire political parties, media outlets, financial institutions, etc.
It is truly terrifying to comprehend the breadth and depth of the dystopia that has roots in corporate greed. Modern pervasive surveillance technology implemented by the commercial sector worldwide makes real-time identification of dissent trivially easy. Laws may exist on paper to protect and empower citizens, but if corruption overrides accountability to those laws then functionally the government is authoritarian.
The average citizen in any oligarchy has very little influence or power over their government.
Why would we want US citizens data to begin with? Waste of storage
For them to feel the pain.
If we did this to the Republican party I wonder how many rape cases would be solved.
None when they run things.
Solved, not prosecuted.
It's the fascist populist playbook in action again
A lot of that list is just info I don't have. I don't even know most of my family's current number, you expect the past?
The IP one is hilarious. I've likely had hundreds of IPs in the last 5 years, and I don't know any of them. Would you just send a range of potential options or do they expect me to know and write out hundreds of IP addresses? The total range of every carrier I've used in the last 5 years?
I've had the same IP address forever: 127.0.0.1.
Cool, mine is 192.168.0.1!
Looks familiar. Are you a spy?
Me too, ::1
I used to be a 10.1.1.1 but I've been mobile hotspot exclusive for years now and I have no fucking clue what internal IP my phone uses
Something in that range.
I would guess your average person couldn't tell you what an IP address is.
Ummm... I'm pretty sure it's 255.255.255.0 ? ...or maybe it's .256...
No wait, it's [ABCD::EFGH]
I wonder how will they react if I say that I don't have any social media accounts.
But I guess I'll keep wondering since my interest on going to that shithole has been plummetting for the last 20 years and right now is at below zero levels.
There is zero chance I could accurately provide this information to anyone, none of my family members could, because they don't know the phone numbers I've had... All around it sounds like a shit idea.
It's an attempt on intimidation, because supposedly for the person travelling it's a lose-lose:
All around it's a humiliation and intimidation exercise
It’s a protectionist policy. This is designed to keep people from entering as not many will want to give out the required.
Well, it was signed by Shitler, so what would you expect.
ESTA?
Everyone Stay Thefuck Away?
It's ok, I'll just do vacation somewhere else.
Translation: Musk said "Here, sign this and then we go to McDonald's!" and Trump was like "ALL RIGHT!"
Email adresses is gonna be fun with my catch all.
[email protected] [email protected] [email protected]
If you spin up a custom server you can really have fun with it
Well we can't say it's just Trump only hates darkies. I am of the opinion Trump wants to destroy the world as revenge for his dying.
Aren’t all EU countries on the list of visa free - waived ESTA requirements countries ? Thought that was the case? Or has that been reversed?
AFAIK that’s still the case. But that has always included the requirement to fill out a form, providing some information. I remember things like „are you a terrorist“ and such. So it has just been extended a little.
Yes, I wonder why that "are you a terrorist" question isn't enough for them.
No it's not,because they realised that NO was the answer a real terrorist would have given
Damn, they're smart.
So just throw all that confirmed NO to Guantanamo. There, problem solved.
Lying on that form is a crime. The purpose is to actually have a crime committed if they later find you're affiliated with Al Qaeda.
Yeah, this data is requested in addition to existing data already requested in ESTA application
No. Romania, for example, is not. It was announced in January that we would enter the program but then they removed us in June.
https://www.niskanencenter.org/romania-was-removed-from-the-visa-waiver-program-heres-what-it-can-do-to-reverse-this/
None of this will ever be used maliciously in any way shape or form, and it will all be stored in a secure, air gapped server
/s
Get fucked
mfw I don't know most of the required information.
Misleading title. Post makes it sound like all data is requires. Low effort.