I know you don't have a laptop or a desk or email yet. Oh, and you're not in the payroll system, but if you want to stand around all day not getting paid, I won't stop you.
Assuming this isnt a parody, odds are good the job is a bog standard 40k a year desk job.
Also filtering candidates and finding a suitable one takes many peoples' time, which you are wasting if you have invisible criteria revealed on the persons start date.
Eh, I like our open office workspace. Our desks are large, we each get drawers, and if anyone needs to make a call, they go to a breakout room. Navigating cubicles sucks, and separate offices aren't great either.
That said, I'm a developer, so inviting someone over to my desk to look at something is quite common. We also frequently have impromptu 5-min meetings between rows, and we arrange people so those who will likely need those quick meetings are near each other.
It certainly wouldn't make sense for a call center or something, but it definitely makes sense for a creative, collaborative environment.
And ironically IIRC, this was the vision of the creator of the concept that managers then perverted into the infamous cubicle: a modular and open collaborative environment.
Nope. You have to reserve a table and try to coordinate with your coworkers to reserve close. I like go to the office so people already knows the table I usually reserve, but sometimes someone else take out that table and I end in a different floor where the sun reflects on the neighbor building and blast my face all day.
Wow, that's awful. We have an open office design, and everyone has an assigned desk. We even have a few spares for our remote employees when they visit.
I swear HR has a rolodex of dumb filler phrases to put into job ads. The kind that are vague enough that nobody can specifically call them out on it later.
I once had a conversation with a dude in the waiting room at the doctor's clinic. He said he purposely delayed in-person interviews for up to an hour sometimes so he can "judge" how the applicant reacts and show their dedication to getting the job. I pretty much stopped engaging after he said that. Fortunately I was called up shortly.
Seems that he is confusing desperation for dedication. The only people who are going to wait for an hour are those who have no other choice.
It seems to me that he is really testing their ability to put up with his bullshit more than anything. One of my biggest pet peeves professionally is respect for the time of others.
Wow, that's terrible. If I'm not there 5 min early to perform your interview, I'll apologize. Being on-time to something like that just invites time-wasting things like kicking the previous group out of the interview room or whatever.
An interview should be a 2-way deal, I'm representing the company and trying to find a good fit for the role, and you're trying to decide whether the company is a good fit for you. If I'm late to an interview, I expect any self-respecting candidate to leave after 15 min, and I wouldn't be surprised if they left after 5. I'm the one looking to fill a role, you're just here to see if it suits you, so it's on me to give the good impression IMO.
I was a naive young lad desperately looking for internship. I was waiting for one hour for an interview and then the hiring manager is a short lady with a stern face came to get me. I thought the interview was simple and easy enough but I didn't get the job. Looking back, it was a power tripping move. However, I probably dodged a bullet because I heard from a colleague in my previous company that the company I tried to get internship in is toxic. The employees there have been working there for twenty years and stick to each other, not talking to new people. It is an old boy's club basically.
I used to work for someone who would deliberately schedule 5 or 6 people for an interview on the same day and time, then sit and talk on the phone for an hour while everyone waited. She acted shocked when people got up and left.
yeah it honestly makes sense considering that what most job interviews are measuring is the candidate's willingness to humiliate themselves for the boss
No this is what he DID. What you said is what he DIDN'T do. If a judge asked what did the employee do. He would have to confess that the guy showed up early for work. He didn't actively DO anything to get fired.That's my point.
Generally yes. There are some financial remedies possible in this sort of case if the employee did anything reasonable for the new job. Like, if they quit an old job they wouldn't otherwise have or moved, they would have a potential case, since there was no actual reason they were immediately fired. If they didn't already have a job and didn't move, they'd probably be SOL unless they live in like California.
That's assuming there is an HR and he is not one of those insane startup tech/fin-tech/app CEO bros. Still rage bait but there is enough truth to be rage bait.
Feels to me like the lunatic's fantasy. Like, the guy really wishes he could do it, but realizes he doesn't have the power to actually go through with it. So he makes up these fantasies to make himself feel better and to try and garner some clout with his fellow lunatics.
Maybe. But it is satire by holding a mirror on power tripping, clout chasing LinkedIn influencers. That's like accusing the South Park creators of secretly wanting to swim in piss in a piss park, or secretly wanting to get into orgy with Satan, Saddam, Trump and Laura Loomer.
Yeah, show up a day early to your office job, and find out that they don't have the system set-up for you to be there. Then go home, while everyone there thinks you got the start day wrong.
Why is the name censored? This is someone who wanted to post it public with their face attached. Let them. It's not like it's a private Facebook group.
I feel like self-censoring is the fad this part of this decade. Everyone's afraid for some reason. It's all blur this, black out that, I've even noticed police bodycam footage and news footage bleeping out curses and public information. People are more concerned with their "content" going viral than disseminating the honest information.
I blame giant corpos training people to self-sensor. Twitter popularized this by hiding replies that contained curse words, so people began to use milder language. Then TikTok did their stupid censorship so people started using alternative words. Now YouTube does the same but they will straight-up delete your comment or deprioritize your videos without notice.
There's no logic to the YouTube thing. I've noticed news channels that blur out guns when someone pulls one on CCTV even though it's already only 120p, even though there are other YouTube channels that are literally all about guns and they're not bothered at all.
Hillariously, I've tried this a few times. Either security wouldn't let me in, or I couldn't clock-in ... no matter what, they didn't pay for the time, or at least not the whole shift.
(vs OOP): Sure, encourage me to realize you aren't worth working for before you have any idea what I can really do.
Showing up a few minutes early to work could make sense, but showing up a day early? WTF? Why would someone possibly tell you to start work on Tuesday unless there was some reason Monday intentionally wouldn't work? I mean ffs, either you won't be in the system, keys aren't ready, your friggin co-workers may not be ready, no desk... And you want to show up a friggin day early and make someone babysit you on top of their regular job?
Honestly? Didn't expect to get paid(this isn't an entitlement thing from a peon perspective, so get that outta your head) and figured I had nothing better to do that day. Otherwise, I could sit-around and listen to my roommates bitch about how they didn't really believe I got a new job, they think I should never have left my old one, or go somewhere(library? mall? zoo? bar?) where their words would echo in my head anyways.
All but one of these places, the start date was worked more around my schedule than theirs. There have also been a few places that weren't ready for me to do anything on the date they said they would-be, or the "start-date" was nothing more than an hour of filling out paperwork.
Why wouldn't I take the opportunity to potentially knock that out early on a day that is more convenient to me for whatever reason? My energy levels are all over the place, so whenever I have plenty and an opportunity to use it properly, I gotta strike while the iron's hot.
I am a manager and have onboarded several people, and it would be extremely weird for someone to come in a day early. I generally expect the first week or two to mostly be learning how things work, and I've already set up how that's going to work, which includes finding the relevant people to help you out. If someone comes in early, that would be inconvenient for me, because now I need to either find something for them to do, or take time away from my schedule to give them a tour or something. I suppose I could take you to HR to get your bank details entered or whatever, but that's about it.
Please don't show up on a day you're not expected to be working unless that's something you've discussed prior to the start date (i.e. Tuesday will definitely work, but if it turns out I can come in on Monday, should I?). If you show up early on your first day, I'll just have you start on the paperwork and whatnot and I'd probably let you leave early to reward you for your punctuality (first days always suck, and you're helping it suck less). That said, more than 30 min early is probably pushing it, since there's a good chance I'm not even in yet.
Exactly, especially if you say start on Tuesday instead of Monday, why would you not just assume there was some reason for not having you start on Monday?
Yeah, my response was more related to being expected to show up a day early and how much hassle that would legitimately cause in a general sense. In specific situations it obviously works out just fine. If you have a sense that they would be ready and interested in getting a head start, sure... But to say 'start on Tuesday' instead of scheduling for Monday, and then having even a sense of disappointment that they didn't show up on Monday is beyond ridiculous.
Yeah, I wasn't addressing it from moron OOPs side. A word about how I should have/could have shown up even an hour earlier, and I'll be blunt with any of them; If it doesn't warrant a call, text or e-mail, its insulting to even bring it up, they are debasing only their own dignity by doing so.
Spy: Final Question... You have a dinner date for seven... what time do you arrive?
Scout: Seven. A.M. Case the restaurant, run background checks on the staff. Can the cook be trusted? If not, I gotta kill him. Dispose of the body, replace him with my own guy no later than 4:30...
Spy: You're ready.
Scout: Really?
Spy: No. Everything you just said was insane... and, we are out of time. Congratulations. You're a failure.
My employee kept trying to take time off to attend his brothers wedding. Mom and I were distraught for months. We were his family now, and our only work son would betray us like this?
Here's the problem: my posts are not satire. Groundbreaking philosophy can sometimes feel like satire because it is so avant-garde and interesting.
What's next? I have to sit at the back of the bus because those are the "Satire Seats"? My children have to go to the specific "Satire School"? This is segregation at its finest.
I would have reverse-fired my future ex-boss. 'Monday? That was my day off after working 80 hours this week-end (I spent this day off doing research obviously). I was there on Sunday at 3:00 AM and couldn't see you so I took the liberty of making you redundant'
-- drolex, AI-evangelist and crypto-blockchain entrepreneur/guru, CEO and ninja
6 figures is a salaried position. You aren't even getting paid hourly, and likely not clocking in or out, at that point. You aren't the person getting sent home by this rando middle-manager - more likely his boss.
Salaried employement is literally a different category than wages. At the level of 6-figures, you're more "company representative" or "asset" than employee.
6-figure salary workers generally get severance pay, even at companies that otherwise don't offer that. They generally can't unionize - THAT'S how en-meshed they are with their companies' interests.
You either have no idea how far the people you are talking about are removed from a wage-slave like yourself, or no idea how far you yourself are removed from wage-slavery.
These people are well into the top 15% of earners. Outside of the biggest cities, they run hospitals, school districts, multiple floors of office buildings. They are the ones getting special tax credits for their 2nd homes. They are landlords and/or small business owners(like myself). People with an exit plan, not just for their job, but for their state, for their country - plans they can impliment at the drop of a hat with minimal impact to their savings or retirement plans. They and their friends buy up neighborhoods together; They are the bourgeoisie. Near-aristocrats and merchant class that see themselves as poor.
Layed off 4 times in 8 years. Mountains if medical debt. And at my age, no tech company will touch me.
Do not think that you know anything about everything. There are places where six figures is BARLY lower middle-class
And moving? That's way to expensive nowadays.
Your take about being stuck in such a place is the bullshit. “Moving expenses" is your excuse? Too good to rent and load your own UHaul isn't poor. Try talking to someone who hasn't already escaped, if you must have a sympathetic ear for your persecution complex. Your equally privileged neighbors, for example. The internet is not generally so deluded.
Seriously, when is the last time you went fishing? Camping? Skiing? To the Beach? If you're living like you're too poor to afford any of these, its not the fault of your location or 6-figure income. If you're too good to ride Greyhound, or you drive your own car in a city with decent public transit, you're not poor, nor even lower middle-class, you're just a snob.
I fucking garuntee I saw more hell beforehand ten than you've seen in your life.
And as far as camping. You good and fucking garuntee you that the time I spent homeless living in the wood was made easier by the years spent as a kid helping to do exactly that. Forage and fish to actually have dinner.
Oh and let's not forget bagging coal as kid just to bring in a few bucks.
And none if that matters. What matters Is your judgemental and undernformed ass thinks way too much of your own entertainment value, your pampered jerk
Pick a fucking narrative you deluded prick. Working since 12. Before I was 16, I had shovelled tonnes of manure, bailed about as much hay, powerwashed a hundred or so semi-trucks, and cleaned scores of restaurant grease-traps/"exhaust systems". Sure, I did it for spending money, not because I had to. Then I moved out and away, lost all my connections and resume-filler as such. Ended up homeless a few times in my twenties. Employers and National Guard never gave a fuck so long as I showed up.
You're damn right I don't care where you've been. It doesn't make $100,000/yr anything less than well-off. My family of 6 is exceptionally well-off on a little more than that, and I could retire overseas tomorrow if I could convince them to join me. If, TODAY, you're too comfortable to consider moving THEN YOU'RE TOO COMFORTABLE TO CLAIM TO BE ANYTHING RESEMBLING LOW INCOME OR "LOWER MIDDLE CLASS".
The effort of wildly guessing that the specific agreement as it is done in writing and it is crucial that everyone upholds their agreements, was in fact just a random test by a lunatic?
Where is this leading: "Yeah boss, so you said the electrical wiring needs to withstand 16A at 230 V, but i thought this was just a test of yours to see our cost cutting entrepreneurship and i installed wiring for 12 V and safed the cost on the circuit breaker. Anyways we need three firetrucks, two ambulances and a hearse.
Well, I mean, it's kind of obvious that this post is outrage bait, so you know, good on that 'cause I'm outraged, but if an employer actually did this to me, I would need somebody to talk me down before I came back with a gun.
That won't do. Everyone knows gods protect fools, and madness is practically a subset of traditional divinity. Lumping these people in with insane idiots is very disrespectful.
LOL imagine believing that gods are real and not just a desperate attempt by fearful monkeys to make sense of a random and indifferent universe. Or believing that Eris isn't there to cancel that shit out.
Yeah but look at all the fucks I give. Just look at em. I gave up trying to use logic to convince religious people ages ago when I realized that their immune to it.
Someone fake that people will attack and ridicule. And then, when pointed out that it's fake, people will backtrack and say silly things like "there are people actually this stupid and crazy" without an oz of awareness that nearly all their examples of others acting like that are, also, straw men.
That would be valid point if I haven't literally met people like this. I'm well aware of logical fallacies. Unfortunately reality is incredibly stupid and we all have to live with it.
It's a big part of why I stick w/ my company when I know I can get higher pay elsewhere. My boss is actually pretty reasonable and the workload is totally acceptable.
My employer used to be reasonable. Now after having the office moved to another county they are expecting me to just switch from remote to hybrid working starting Monday morning.
I am not doing it. But feeling quite a bit of anxiety over the situation as I don't really know what is going to happen. I hope a lot of people refuse to but I don't know if they are. I do know that a lot don't want to.
We switched from 2 days in office to 3, which was annoying, but not my boss' fault, that came straight from the CEO. My boss does a good job fighting for us, and we enjoy a good amount of autonomy from the rest of the bs that goes on in the company.
Everyone has their line. Mine has been max 3 days in office for years now, but maybe yours is full remote. Once you hear that your line will be crossed, start looking immediately and push back once you feel you have a good backup plan.
What I dislike is the constant push to get people in more and more often. It seems clear that they want everyone in all the time eventually. I can't even afford that kind of commuting cost since they moved the office over 50 miles away.
The difference is that everyone on my team was hired with the understanding that either they're local or they'd relocate after the COVID restrictions were lifted, so remote work was a temporary situation. The understanding was always 2 days in office (despite corporate policy being 3 days), and our VP ensured it stayed that way for 4 years. At the end of that, our CEO and VP changed, and we were forced onto the existing 3-day in office corporate policy, and they require that one of those days are Monday or Friday.
IMO, that's totally acceptable. It's not like these other companies that advertised full remote and then switched to hybrid or even full in office.
The real problem is the bait and switch. If you're going to change the terms of the deal, give people a lot of time to adjust. If you're going to change from full remote to hybrid or full in office, give people multiple months to adjust since they may decide to move.
There is no amount of time that could ever make the bait and switch reasonable, changing a commute from less than 5 miles to well over 50 is not something you can adjust to.
Give us that redundancy payout if you really insist its necessary to come into the office. Then have fun when you have no one left that knows how the product works.
I disagree, I think 6 months is fine, and if the relocation of the office is significantly far away (i.e. your case), then also offer a relocation package. That gives people enough time to find new work, sell their house/lease, etc. Maybe it's better to offer people their choice of severance or relocation, but I don't think severance is necessary if they give sufficiently advanced notice.
I would venture to say it never is. I worked in a toxic environment for five years, and it literally made me ill.
My hair started falling out in big handfuls and I had constant digestive problems. I went to a series of doctors and ended up with an endocrinologist who said my thyroid was overactive and might need to be irradiated to stop the problems. Then at my next appointment, it was under-active. It didn't make sense.
I had already been looking for a new job, and I changed jobs after that second appointment. A month later, all of my problems had gone away. It turned out all the havoc in my body was just due to stress.
They could have quadrupled my pay and it still wouldn't have been worth the effects on my health.
Idk that may work for retail, or corporate if you're unemployed. Otherwise I'd suspect something is off with the company/job if they're asking me to stay in Monday. Even if you're not giving a two week notice, it's usually easier for everyone to set a date, and the 1st day or the 15th works better for payroll.
Maybe that was the goal. Maybe they got some big government grant but they had to prove they attempted to hire or something to keep the money so they burned some money doing interviews and such then pocketed the rest of the grant
I hired a new employee to start on Tuesday
He came in on Monday
I fired him on the spot
Can't follow simple fucking instructions
I hired a guy to start on Monday. He showed up at 8:45.
No Bueno buster, you were expected at exactly midnight because that's when fuckin Monday starts.
Yep exactly
What an absolute piece of shit coming in 15 minutes early on your scheduled start date.
Yeah. I would have fired them on the spot.
Why?
Because if they came early it means that they not busy enough in their own life.
If life's not a one big hustle for you, you are not even trying.
(/s just incase)
This reads like it came straight off of linked in. Perfection.
I know this is sarcasm but the point of the lunatic was that he wanted them to come on Monday, a full day before.
Not that this actually happened of course, but if somebody genuinely worked like that, you wouldn't want to work for them.
You'd probably end up stabbing them in the eye with a rusty fork, and no one would blame you.
Oh yeah, definetely, it would be horrible
I know you don't have a laptop or a desk or email yet. Oh, and you're not in the payroll system, but if you want to stand around all day not getting paid, I won't stop you.
Assuming this isnt a parody, odds are good the job is a bog standard 40k a year desk job. Also filtering candidates and finding a suitable one takes many peoples' time, which you are wasting if you have invisible criteria revealed on the persons start date.
You mean a fast paced environment?
Fucking dream for an office. I just got a table a notebook stand and a monitor. I have to carry the keyboard and mouse with me everywhere.
Shit most places do the “open office” thing where you get a third of this space and less privacy. Everyone can hear everyone’s calls.
And people wonder why employees hate RTO
Eh, I like our open office workspace. Our desks are large, we each get drawers, and if anyone needs to make a call, they go to a breakout room. Navigating cubicles sucks, and separate offices aren't great either.
That said, I'm a developer, so inviting someone over to my desk to look at something is quite common. We also frequently have impromptu 5-min meetings between rows, and we arrange people so those who will likely need those quick meetings are near each other.
It certainly wouldn't make sense for a call center or something, but it definitely makes sense for a creative, collaborative environment.
And ironically IIRC, this was the vision of the creator of the concept that managers then perverted into the infamous cubicle: a modular and open collaborative environment.
I mean this is a cubicle not an office, but they don’t even give you a designated desk?
Nope. You have to reserve a table and try to coordinate with your coworkers to reserve close. I like go to the office so people already knows the table I usually reserve, but sometimes someone else take out that table and I end in a different floor where the sun reflects on the neighbor building and blast my face all day.
Wow, that's awful. We have an open office design, and everyone has an assigned desk. We even have a few spares for our remote employees when they visit.
You got a notebook stand?!
I swear HR has a rolodex of dumb filler phrases to put into job ads. The kind that are vague enough that nobody can specifically call them out on it later.
That looks like a dynamic fast paced environment, to me.
Oof, a solo cubical. Haven't had one of those in like 8 years.
I once had a conversation with a dude in the waiting room at the doctor's clinic. He said he purposely delayed in-person interviews for up to an hour sometimes so he can "judge" how the applicant reacts and show their dedication to getting the job. I pretty much stopped engaging after he said that. Fortunately I was called up shortly.
Always tell these people that they’re despicable to their face. It’s the only way to change their toxic culture.
So he's pissing off all the great candidates who have better options.
Seems that he is confusing desperation for dedication. The only people who are going to wait for an hour are those who have no other choice.
It seems to me that he is really testing their ability to put up with his bullshit more than anything. One of my biggest pet peeves professionally is respect for the time of others.
Wow, that's terrible. If I'm not there 5 min early to perform your interview, I'll apologize. Being on-time to something like that just invites time-wasting things like kicking the previous group out of the interview room or whatever.
An interview should be a 2-way deal, I'm representing the company and trying to find a good fit for the role, and you're trying to decide whether the company is a good fit for you. If I'm late to an interview, I expect any self-respecting candidate to leave after 15 min, and I wouldn't be surprised if they left after 5. I'm the one looking to fill a role, you're just here to see if it suits you, so it's on me to give the good impression IMO.
I was a naive young lad desperately looking for internship. I was waiting for one hour for an interview and then the hiring manager is a short lady with a stern face came to get me. I thought the interview was simple and easy enough but I didn't get the job. Looking back, it was a power tripping move. However, I probably dodged a bullet because I heard from a colleague in my previous company that the company I tried to get internship in is toxic. The employees there have been working there for twenty years and stick to each other, not talking to new people. It is an old boy's club basically.
I used to work for someone who would deliberately schedule 5 or 6 people for an interview on the same day and time, then sit and talk on the phone for an hour while everyone waited. She acted shocked when people got up and left.
yeah it honestly makes sense considering that what most job interviews are measuring is the candidate's willingness to humiliate themselves for the boss
If the agreement says to come in on Tuesday, you're arguably trespassing when you force your way in in Monday.
It's called dedication
"Yes, I broke in the office at 4AM in a Sunday but that was only because I'm DEDICATED"
Gotta love the fake power trip stories on LinkedIn. Cringe fest.
Exactly. I'm not a lawyer but I struggle to find the legality of firing someone for showing up early for work. What nonsense.
No, this was firing for not showing up on a non working day
No, this was firing someone for not showing up before the day they were told to start.
No this is what he DID. What you said is what he DIDN'T do. If a judge asked what did the employee do. He would have to confess that the guy showed up early for work. He didn't actively DO anything to get fired.That's my point.
Depending on where this person is, as long as they weren't fired for something like their race, or religion, it is legal.
I think that in a lot of the US, firing people because you enjoy it is fine. It's probably a hobby for some people over there.
Generally yes. There are some financial remedies possible in this sort of case if the employee did anything reasonable for the new job. Like, if they quit an old job they wouldn't otherwise have or moved, they would have a potential case, since there was no actual reason they were immediately fired. If they didn't already have a job and didn't move, they'd probably be SOL unless they live in like California.
Ah, but then they'd probably have cancer anyway.
Sounds like the employee dodged a bullet there.
Wood chippers for all the bosses.
Would have, if it were real. Hiring people is a bitch. You don't ditch people because they're not psychic psychos.
Yeah. HR would have thrown him out with the new hire if they actually did this
That's assuming there is an HR and he is not one of those insane startup tech/fin-tech/app CEO bros. Still rage bait but there is enough truth to be rage bait.
This is a troll
it doesn't matter if it's real, it only matters if it confirms my biases
It sounds a lot like Ken Cheng
Feels to me like the lunatic's fantasy. Like, the guy really wishes he could do it, but realizes he doesn't have the power to actually go through with it. So he makes up these fantasies to make himself feel better and to try and garner some clout with his fellow lunatics.
Maybe. But it is satire by holding a mirror on power tripping, clout chasing LinkedIn influencers. That's like accusing the South Park creators of secretly wanting to swim in piss in a piss park, or secretly wanting to get into orgy with Satan, Saddam, Trump and Laura Loomer.
Yeah, this really seems like it's satire. If someone hadn't blurred out the name, we would... Hold on.
A quick Google search yielded results.
Could still be satire
Yeah, show up a day early to your office job, and find out that they don't have the system set-up for you to be there. Then go home, while everyone there thinks you got the start day wrong.
And have to go through three months of "yeah, remember? he's the idiot that came in a day early?
yeah, the office in joke
This is toxicity manifest.
And not even a succulent Chinese meal to compensate...
Unhand my RESUMEEEEEE
With processed ham?
It's also a made-up story to make people think the poster is HUSTLE PRIME
Why censore the account name? They put it out publicly to be shared.
I'm guessing because showing it would reveal this is a parody account. This has to be a parody.
I hope so. I'd rather get fooled than have this be real.
Many places where content is posted would remove this because it contains "personal information" regardless of it being shared publicly or not.
To avoid dogpiling and harassment.
Seems like something they need in their lives. They need to learn perspective.
They also need to stop lying on the internet about things that definitely didn't happen.
A publicly made comment, like tgat one, if not paradoy, should be harrased
They never said it shouldn't happen, they were providing a potential explanation.
But what if tehy sue?
Sue for what? Public backlash???
a meal?! a succulent chinese meal?!
So?
Why is the name censored? This is someone who wanted to post it public with their face attached. Let them. It's not like it's a private Facebook group.
I feel like self-censoring is the fad this part of this decade. Everyone's afraid for some reason. It's all blur this, black out that, I've even noticed police bodycam footage and news footage bleeping out curses and public information. People are more concerned with their "content" going viral than disseminating the honest information.
We need to say fuck twice for every fuck they don't say.
I'll fucking drink to that. I mean, it's 0700 but... Fuck.
I blame giant corpos training people to self-sensor. Twitter popularized this by hiding replies that contained curse words, so people began to use milder language. Then TikTok did their stupid censorship so people started using alternative words. Now YouTube does the same but they will straight-up delete your comment or deprioritize your videos without notice.
There's no logic to the YouTube thing. I've noticed news channels that blur out guns when someone pulls one on CCTV even though it's already only 120p, even though there are other YouTube channels that are literally all about guns and they're not bothered at all.
Reddit tendrils
It's not just reddit. Not by a longshot. unalive is a ticktok invention, for example.
Hillariously, I've tried this a few times. Either security wouldn't let me in, or I couldn't clock-in ... no matter what, they didn't pay for the time, or at least not the whole shift.
(vs OOP): Sure, encourage me to realize you aren't worth working for before you have any idea what I can really do.
Showing up a few minutes early to work could make sense, but showing up a day early? WTF? Why would someone possibly tell you to start work on Tuesday unless there was some reason Monday intentionally wouldn't work? I mean ffs, either you won't be in the system, keys aren't ready, your friggin co-workers may not be ready, no desk... And you want to show up a friggin day early and make someone babysit you on top of their regular job?
Honestly? Didn't expect to get paid(this isn't an entitlement thing from a peon perspective, so get that outta your head) and figured I had nothing better to do that day. Otherwise, I could sit-around and listen to my roommates bitch about how they didn't really believe I got a new job, they think I should never have left my old one, or go somewhere(library? mall? zoo? bar?) where their words would echo in my head anyways.
All but one of these places, the start date was worked more around my schedule than theirs. There have also been a few places that weren't ready for me to do anything on the date they said they would-be, or the "start-date" was nothing more than an hour of filling out paperwork.
Why wouldn't I take the opportunity to potentially knock that out early on a day that is more convenient to me for whatever reason? My energy levels are all over the place, so whenever I have plenty and an opportunity to use it properly, I gotta strike while the iron's hot.
I am a manager and have onboarded several people, and it would be extremely weird for someone to come in a day early. I generally expect the first week or two to mostly be learning how things work, and I've already set up how that's going to work, which includes finding the relevant people to help you out. If someone comes in early, that would be inconvenient for me, because now I need to either find something for them to do, or take time away from my schedule to give them a tour or something. I suppose I could take you to HR to get your bank details entered or whatever, but that's about it.
Please don't show up on a day you're not expected to be working unless that's something you've discussed prior to the start date (i.e. Tuesday will definitely work, but if it turns out I can come in on Monday, should I?). If you show up early on your first day, I'll just have you start on the paperwork and whatnot and I'd probably let you leave early to reward you for your punctuality (first days always suck, and you're helping it suck less). That said, more than 30 min early is probably pushing it, since there's a good chance I'm not even in yet.
Exactly, especially if you say start on Tuesday instead of Monday, why would you not just assume there was some reason for not having you start on Monday?
No worries, I was talking 15+ years ago.
Yeah, my response was more related to being expected to show up a day early and how much hassle that would legitimately cause in a general sense. In specific situations it obviously works out just fine. If you have a sense that they would be ready and interested in getting a head start, sure... But to say 'start on Tuesday' instead of scheduling for Monday, and then having even a sense of disappointment that they didn't show up on Monday is beyond ridiculous.
Yeah, I wasn't addressing it from moron OOPs side. A word about how I should have/could have shown up even an hour earlier, and I'll be blunt with any of them; If it doesn't warrant a call, text or e-mail, its insulting to even bring it up, they are debasing only their own dignity by doing so.
Reminds me of the Team Fortress 2 Expiration Date animation.
My employee came for his pay check. I fired him on the spot. I don't respect people who only work for money.
My employee kept trying to take time off to attend his brothers wedding. Mom and I were distraught for months. We were his family now, and our only work son would betray us like this?
Why is it blurred? I don't get why people try protect scummy companies.
Considering the name is censored, doubt it
Ken Cheng https://www.linkedin.com/posts/ken-cheng-991849b6_i-have-been-silenced-this-time-it-was-activity-7356645669056462848-SnFL
I love how far he leans into the satire.
Ken M is who you're referring to I believe.
No there's a specific satire account on Linked in.
We're all Ken Chang on this blessed day
GOOD point
It's not Ken anything. It's some British guy named Jack Frimston.
I think it's up to you to decide whether or not this is supposed to be satirical. I'm on the side of thinking it's not.
I would have reverse-fired my future ex-boss. 'Monday? That was my day off after working 80 hours this week-end (I spent this day off doing research obviously). I was there on Sunday at 3:00 AM and couldn't see you so I took the liberty of making you redundant'
-- drolex, AI-evangelist and crypto-blockchain entrepreneur/guru, CEO and ninja
"I wanted my employee to do something I didn't ask for so I fired them when they did exactly what I asked."
job requirement:
Did he dodge a bullet? Yes
For $20-30/hr? Unless it's a 6 figures never expect this effort from anything.
Figures don’t matter. If your pay comes with a check stub, you do your job, and then go home.
6 figures is a salaried position. You aren't even getting paid hourly, and likely not clocking in or out, at that point. You aren't the person getting sent home by this rando middle-manager - more likely his boss.
Salaried employement is literally a different category than wages. At the level of 6-figures, you're more "company representative" or "asset" than employee.
6-figure salary workers generally get severance pay, even at companies that otherwise don't offer that. They generally can't unionize - THAT'S how en-meshed they are with their companies' interests.
You either have no idea how far the people you are talking about are removed from a wage-slave like yourself, or no idea how far you yourself are removed from wage-slavery.
These people are well into the top 15% of earners. Outside of the biggest cities, they run hospitals, school districts, multiple floors of office buildings. They are the ones getting special tax credits for their 2nd homes. They are landlords and/or small business owners(like myself). People with an exit plan, not just for their job, but for their state, for their country - plans they can impliment at the drop of a hat with minimal impact to their savings or retirement plans. They and their friends buy up neighborhoods together; They are the bourgeoisie. Near-aristocrats and merchant class that see themselves as poor.
The only kool-aid drinker here is you.
Bull shit. Former middle manager made six figures
Layed off 4 times in 8 years. Mountains if medical debt. And at my age, no tech company will touch me.
Do not think that you know anything about everything. There are places where six figures is BARLY lower middle-class And moving? That's way to expensive nowadays.
Be carefulnwiyh broad brushes. You get splashed.
Your take about being stuck in such a place is the bullshit. “Moving expenses" is your excuse? Too good to rent and load your own UHaul isn't poor. Try talking to someone who hasn't already escaped, if you must have a sympathetic ear for your persecution complex. Your equally privileged neighbors, for example. The internet is not generally so deluded.
Seriously, when is the last time you went fishing? Camping? Skiing? To the Beach? If you're living like you're too poor to afford any of these, its not the fault of your location or 6-figure income. If you're too good to ride Greyhound, or you drive your own car in a city with decent public transit, you're not poor, nor even lower middle-class, you're just a snob.
I fucking garuntee I saw more hell beforehand ten than you've seen in your life.
And as far as camping. You good and fucking garuntee you that the time I spent homeless living in the wood was made easier by the years spent as a kid helping to do exactly that. Forage and fish to actually have dinner.
Oh and let's not forget bagging coal as kid just to bring in a few bucks.
And none if that matters. What matters Is your judgemental and undernformed ass thinks way too much of your own entertainment value, your pampered jerk
Pick a fucking narrative you deluded prick. Working since 12. Before I was 16, I had shovelled tonnes of manure, bailed about as much hay, powerwashed a hundred or so semi-trucks, and cleaned scores of restaurant grease-traps/"exhaust systems". Sure, I did it for spending money, not because I had to. Then I moved out and away, lost all my connections and resume-filler as such. Ended up homeless a few times in my twenties. Employers and National Guard never gave a fuck so long as I showed up.
You're damn right I don't care where you've been. It doesn't make $100,000/yr anything less than well-off. My family of 6 is exceptionally well-off on a little more than that, and I could retire overseas tomorrow if I could convince them to join me. If, TODAY, you're too comfortable to consider moving THEN YOU'RE TOO COMFORTABLE TO CLAIM TO BE ANYTHING RESEMBLING LOW INCOME OR "LOWER MIDDLE CLASS".
The effort of wildly guessing that the specific agreement as it is done in writing and it is crucial that everyone upholds their agreements, was in fact just a random test by a lunatic?
Where is this leading: "Yeah boss, so you said the electrical wiring needs to withstand 16A at 230 V, but i thought this was just a test of yours to see our cost cutting entrepreneurship and i installed wiring for 12 V and safed the cost on the circuit breaker. Anyways we need three firetrucks, two ambulances and a hearse.
Hope he got his car keyed and his tires slashed
Well, I mean, it's kind of obvious that this post is outrage bait, so you know, good on that 'cause I'm outraged, but if an employer actually did this to me, I would need somebody to talk me down before I came back with a gun.
Lol fucking what
Linkedin has become 4Chan it seems
Oooh i like that idea. Reading the posts like greentext makes so much more sense.
Except there are people actually this stupid and crazy. We need a new word for that. Stupsane?
That won't do. Everyone knows gods protect fools, and madness is practically a subset of traditional divinity. Lumping these people in with insane idiots is very disrespectful.
Okay. Then how about... "MBA"?
Yeah
LOL imagine believing that gods are real and not just a desperate attempt by fearful monkeys to make sense of a random and indifferent universe. Or believing that Eris isn't there to cancel that shit out.
You know this is why nobody likes us atheists, right?
Yeah but look at all the fucks I give. Just look at em. I gave up trying to use logic to convince religious people ages ago when I realized that their immune to it.
I think it's already called a Straw Man.
Someone fake that people will attack and ridicule. And then, when pointed out that it's fake, people will backtrack and say silly things like "there are people actually this stupid and crazy" without an oz of awareness that nearly all their examples of others acting like that are, also, straw men.
That would be valid point if I haven't literally met people like this. I'm well aware of logical fallacies. Unfortunately reality is incredibly stupid and we all have to live with it.
Must be sooo nice to work in the US :)
It's a big part of why I stick w/ my company when I know I can get higher pay elsewhere. My boss is actually pretty reasonable and the workload is totally acceptable.
My employer used to be reasonable. Now after having the office moved to another county they are expecting me to just switch from remote to hybrid working starting Monday morning.
I am not doing it. But feeling quite a bit of anxiety over the situation as I don't really know what is going to happen. I hope a lot of people refuse to but I don't know if they are. I do know that a lot don't want to.
We switched from 2 days in office to 3, which was annoying, but not my boss' fault, that came straight from the CEO. My boss does a good job fighting for us, and we enjoy a good amount of autonomy from the rest of the bs that goes on in the company.
Everyone has their line. Mine has been max 3 days in office for years now, but maybe yours is full remote. Once you hear that your line will be crossed, start looking immediately and push back once you feel you have a good backup plan.
What I dislike is the constant push to get people in more and more often. It seems clear that they want everyone in all the time eventually. I can't even afford that kind of commuting cost since they moved the office over 50 miles away.
Yeah, I get that.
The difference is that everyone on my team was hired with the understanding that either they're local or they'd relocate after the COVID restrictions were lifted, so remote work was a temporary situation. The understanding was always 2 days in office (despite corporate policy being 3 days), and our VP ensured it stayed that way for 4 years. At the end of that, our CEO and VP changed, and we were forced onto the existing 3-day in office corporate policy, and they require that one of those days are Monday or Friday.
IMO, that's totally acceptable. It's not like these other companies that advertised full remote and then switched to hybrid or even full in office.
The real problem is the bait and switch. If you're going to change the terms of the deal, give people a lot of time to adjust. If you're going to change from full remote to hybrid or full in office, give people multiple months to adjust since they may decide to move.
There is no amount of time that could ever make the bait and switch reasonable, changing a commute from less than 5 miles to well over 50 is not something you can adjust to.
Give us that redundancy payout if you really insist its necessary to come into the office. Then have fun when you have no one left that knows how the product works.
I disagree, I think 6 months is fine, and if the relocation of the office is significantly far away (i.e. your case), then also offer a relocation package. That gives people enough time to find new work, sell their house/lease, etc. Maybe it's better to offer people their choice of severance or relocation, but I don't think severance is necessary if they give sufficiently advanced notice.
Yeah. Sometimes pay isn't worth the toxic environment.
I would venture to say it never is. I worked in a toxic environment for five years, and it literally made me ill.
My hair started falling out in big handfuls and I had constant digestive problems. I went to a series of doctors and ended up with an endocrinologist who said my thyroid was overactive and might need to be irradiated to stop the problems. Then at my next appointment, it was under-active. It didn't make sense.
I had already been looking for a new job, and I changed jobs after that second appointment. A month later, all of my problems had gone away. It turned out all the havoc in my body was just due to stress.
They could have quadrupled my pay and it still wouldn't have been worth the effects on my health.
Poe's law applies here.
It applies everywhere
No one is this stupid, but he might be dumb enough to lie about being this stupid
My guy, 77 million people voted for Donald Trump for a second term.
And a fair other similar amount did not vote and let him be.
why is this censored
And then everybody in the office clapped.
Starting day is whatever the first working day of the month is.
nope. That's the way it works in Germany.
What's the other option?
Idk that may work for retail, or corporate if you're unemployed. Otherwise I'd suspect something is off with the company/job if they're asking me to stay in Monday. Even if you're not giving a two week notice, it's usually easier for everyone to set a date, and the 1st day or the 15th works better for payroll.
I started my current job on the 13th... Of September in fact, It'll be 4 years...
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why is this censored
Maybe that was the goal. Maybe they got some big government grant but they had to prove they attempted to hire or something to keep the money so they burned some money doing interviews and such then pocketed the rest of the grant
Based troll!
It's actually great news for that person, because they won't have to deal with that absolute shit show of a boss.
I dun gawt trohled
He should've spat on his hand before giving the asshole capitalist CEO yas boss boy the handshake