Spyke
sh.itjust.works

They have think-tanks dedicated to coming up with the worst decisions possible, for real.

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lemmy.world

I don't doubt it, Trump is a Russian Psyop placed in power with the singular goal of incapacitating the United States by sowing chaos.

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they already have mtg, hesgeth, tulsi gabbard in on it, trump is thier oldest and most useful asset.

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kingofrasreply
lemmy.world

Hopefully his next announcement will be from the Dark House in the Doughnut Office from behind the Whimsical Desk.

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infosec.pub

Might as well. It was originally called that, and the DoD name was always kind of a lame coat of off-white landlord paint.

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lemmy.world

Yeah but it's the death of a euphemism. It was good that they had to use a euphemism.

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infosec.pub

I'll bite. How is that?

Edit: I watched the death of a euphemism video and understand your point now. My original comment was less of a serious assertion and more voicing my general disdain for the idea of crossing out "War," writing "Defense," and continuing to invade countries for decades anyway.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

I mean, being ashamed of your evil deeds while still doing them doesn’t make it better.

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lemmy.world

Kind of? It makes you more likely to moderate, stop earlier, do less atrocities if you think the public won’t like it or is ashamed of it.

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I suppose they do, but that doesn't imply "Department of War" is any less shameful, except for the fact that we know Trump doesn't have shame and only wants to change the name because it makes him sound more authoritarian.

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rc__buggyreply
sh.itjust.works

Well, Dept. of War and Dept. of The Navy became DoD. I used to work for them, some people think I'm a Veteran because I use the block print and the 24h time and today is 25Aug25. I'm not, never been shot at but that shit just gets ingrained in you.

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smhreply
slrpnk.net

Wait, only 2 digits for the year? What in the Y2K is that?

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alpha1betareply
piefed.social

He just wants something, anything, as big as Obama's. Crowd sizes popularity deportations Nobel Peace Prize or of course, well you know....

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feddit.nl

Lmfao finally something I'm glad he's doing!

The name change was fucking psychological manipulation for the population. You can't argue against defense department spending as easily as you can argue against war department spending.

Bring it on! Make our jobs easier you bumbling brainrotted doughnut dictator.

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Hopefully his next announcement will be from the Dark House in the Doughnut Office from behind the Whimsical Desk.

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shalafireply
lemmy.world

To make a slight counter, the Defense Department does more than fight. We have humanitarian mission capabilities, and we use it. When shit goes down, you want the military to roll in.

I've told the story many times, but after Hurricane Ivan I assumed I was on my own. When the Florida Guard rolled in the next morning I was weeping in the streets, on my knees, thank god, thank god. I had no idea there would be any aid. Most humbling. Tearing up now in fact.

I also wept, most literally, when the Mississippi Guard rolled in after Katrina. My FIL was there. Two bronze stars from Iraq, the Mississippi coast broke him, PTSD. He was never the same man after cutting houses in half with chainsaws, pushing corpses aside, leading the tip of the spear.

“People sleep peaceably in their beds at night because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.”

Whoever said it, or didn't, we need such men.

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Pup Birureply
aussie.zone

alternatively, instead of having the military have these capabilities perhaps fund non-military departments to do it

it’s a function of the US military being bloated that they can use some of that bloat to do other things, but it’s far from efficient

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atzanteolreply
sh.itjust.works

This isn't necessarily bloat, it's things the military needs to be able to do. Like 90% of the military is just good logistics and the ability to move resources anywhere in the world quickly. That's good for both an army on the move and helping hurricane victims.

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lemmy.world

Logistics is effectively the hardest problem and the most expensive one.

A lot of people don't realize that a lot of wasteful spending is effectively required in order to maintain any semblance or level of readiness.

If you are not manufacturing equipment, ammunition, and similar items then you have no one and nowhere to actually manufacture them. A large part of spending is keeping the people, skill sets, facilities, and supply chains running and operating at a minimum required level to support an increase in need. If you don't do this then when you need it, you can't manufacture it anymore, your entire supply chain has to start from scratch.

It's incredibly wasteful but also somewhat necessary.

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shalafireply
lemmy.world

Yep. Same reasons we can't built a Saturn V any longer. All the supply chains, expertise, etc., are long gone. Imagine keeping all that up to run a B-52 Stratofortress. And yet we do it!

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0x0reply

All the supply chains, expertise, etc., are long gone.

Don't deport it to El Salvador then.

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There also has to be redundancy in the supply chain for critical items. That can look like wasteful duplication to someone who doesn't understand how the process works.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

Like 90% of the military is just good logistics and the ability to move resources anywhere in the world quickly.

There’s an old WW2 story, where a captured Nazi officer realized they were going to lose the war… Because he overheard American officers complaining that they were running low on ice cream. Nazis at the time were eating their own boot leather while they froze to death in Russia. Meanwhile, the Americans were complaining about a lack of ice cream.

The logistics behind the American military is honestly a modern wonder. If they were willing to divert the time, manpower, and resources to do so, they could erect a fully staffed and stocked McDonalds anywhere on the globe in less than 48 hours. Imagine an entire restaurant being built in a single weekend. Now imagine it in the middle of the ocean on an oil rig, or at the North Pole. The sheer amount of resources and manpower required would be monumental by most standards, but it wouldn’t even be worth a footnote on the military’s expense report.

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sopuli.xyz

a fully operational mcdonalds is fully fucking useless. this is not a flex. the logistics are impressive and necessary yeah, but not for shitty overpriced burgers. that's just yay for corporate defense contracts.

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Such a scheme sounds better, but the discipline and infrastructure to make it happen?

We're not talking social workers replacing cops, we're talking hard motherfuckers doing what it takes, under orders, no failure.

Anyway, if you ever live the other side of a true disaster, you might see what I mean.

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If you'd stopped at the end of the second paragraph I might even have upvoted, but then on the third paragraph it started sounding a bit too much like one of Trump's "crying tough guy" stories, and by the end of the post it was full on pro-war.

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x0x7reply
lemmy.world

Came here to say this. It's exactly when it became the department of defense that we had never ending war.

Though I'd still like it to be named the department of defense and then actually do defense. Unless there is a threat of an American being attacked on domestic ground by a foreign power, this isn't really the intended purpose of the military under our constitution.

We should not "defend" our "interests abroad." We shouldn't have interests abroad. That's also one of the founding ideas of this country. "Defend our interest abroad" is an intentionally vague euphemism for "if we didn't use a euphemism and just told you in plain words what we're doing you wouldn't like it because what we are doing is killing people to protect the profits of a very tiny number of people whose company would lose profit if we didn't." If that's not what that euphemism means they wouldn't need a euphemism.

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Unless there is a threat of an American being attacked on domestic ground by a foreign power, this isn’t really the intended purpose of the military under our constitution.

Back in the 1700s, a standing military wasn't as necessary, since response times were generally measurable in months, and you could stand up an army in that time. Even then, you needed a navy, since shipbuilding took lots of money and time. But now, to prevent an attack on the civilian population or the government, readiness needs to be much, much higher.

I'm more in agreement with you about "interests abroad." There's far too much interference in the affairs of foreign countries in order to benefit US-based corporations and the ambitions of certain factions of the US elite. But that's a two-way street. For example, Trump is sabotaging renewable energy projects so that the US will continue to be dependent on fossil fuels, since that makes us more vulnerable to manipuation of that market by Russia and other suppliers. Eliminating that massive supply-chain risk should be one of the main pillars of our medium-term national security strategy, and would keep us from being drawn into wars.

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pheggsreply
feddit.org

I think one of the main issues is that most of his voters probably just don't care about it at all

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Salehreply
feddit.org

The Epstein story still is ongoing in the MAGA base. The whole thing is eating away at Trumps base and despite them getting some of their major talking heads in line, it is still brooding.

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I hope you are right, but my fear is if it doesn't align with their interests they might just invent an excuse in their head

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true, and most of the blue MAGA don't care about all of them on the list

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DarkFuturereply
lemmy.world

A 10 year old boy who is also a felon, a rapist, and fucks 10 year old girls, while letting other 10 year old boys dictate policy while he golfs and rapes people.

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He's more like a ten year old boy who fucks three-year-old girls who don't yet have the language to say what happened to them...and when they get snitchy, he threatens them with violence to shut them up, often demonstrating on a small animal.

I think I'm trying to say he's not just a precocious kid with anger issues, but a precocious kid with a cruelty streak and symptoms of physical neurological effects and poses a danger to himself and others.

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As in precocious puberty. Kids who are sexually activated (by premature hormone reactions which can be triggered -- not always -- by sexual abuse) so they get sexually interested before their peers, and ruin recess for everyone else.

When I was growing up (mind you, I was a late, late bloomer) precocious puberty in girls was punished brutally (say being grounded for life). Precocious puberty in boys was rewarded with early sports careers, unless you sucked, in which case you were punished for being a sex pest. This was a source of bullies that preyed on the rest of us.

This is to say, the US really doesn't know how to parent or teach or otherwise administrate children. This is also to say I am way, way bitter about it.

ETA This is one of the purposes of puberty blockers, when it's not used to let questioning trans kids decide to deliberate on what they want to be for a while, so I hope things are generally better. But then, considering how puberty blockers are now politicized, precocious puberty is also politicized, which ruins everyone's Sunday brunch.

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Yeah I think trump is the polar opposite of precocious. He still acts like a spoilt child at 79

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lemmy.ml

If we're honest, this new name more accurately describes the American military than the word defense does

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Frezikreply
lemmy.blahaj.zone

It actually used to be called "Department of War". It changed in 1947, which was actually right around the time when the United States went full worldwide imperialism (though there were signs well before then).

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Might as well have been named the "Department of Fighting Communist Insurgencies". Truman and Eisenhower unleashed wave after wave of US troops on any pre-ww colonial territory that was trying to throw off the yoke of European occupation.

With Global Communism finally crushed, and ethno-nationalist tin pot plutocrats once again in control of Europe and the Middle East, the US can return to its more McKinley-esque tradition of occupation, enslavement, and extraction. No need to pretend we're shielding anyone from the villainous Soviet Marxists or the vile and malignant IWW.

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blackfoxreply
lemmings.world

It's always interesting to see how and why we're living in bizarro world.

Thumbs up to orange man for correcting this mistake.

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Say what you will (and there is a lot to say), but MAGA tends to want to undo bad neoliberal habits too.

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shalafireply
lemmy.world

He wants a Nobel because Obama got one. Could it be any more obvious?!

Trump hates Obama's guts, and Obama drove him to run for the Presidency. Don't believe me? That single roast changed world history. I mean that. That video will be studied 300 years from now as a lever that changed the Western world.

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0x0reply

Dude was in the crowd being roasted... damn.

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I mean historically the Nobel Peace Prize is given to war criminals, so he deserves it.

I think you're thinking of the Right Livelihood award. That's for people who do actual Peace things.

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I'm so glad President Trump is focused on the important issues, like renaming bodies of water, mountains, schools, and federal institutions. I didn't need lower grocery prices anyway.

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lemmy.world

Good.

It should be. At any point in time the US is involved in 5-10 wars since Obama.

Calling it the Dept. of War is honest.

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stringerereply
sh.itjust.works

Pretty sure the Carter administration was the last one to have no new wars in over 100 years.

Edit: I was wrong. The US was still involved in wars during his administration.

It's been super easy finding out the USA has only had 8-34 years of peace in it's history, not so much what those years pg peace were combing lists on wikipedia with my phone.

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piefed.social

Many issues at play:

  1. In the same way that a lot of people with powerful friends in the city depend on new highway projects, new community centers, new programs being set up, so that their friends can get paid, people in the US government with powerful friends depend on new wars so that everyone can sell weapons and continue to have good quarters.
  2. The US military benefits enormously from getting a ton of practice. We're trying to run an empire, and very often big militaries get lazy because their countries do so well that they don't really have to be scrappy, and people get complacent. War is so shocking and challenging that the only way to really stay good at it is to be doing it. And so, that's exactly what the US does.
  3. The US has its fingers in so many pies so to speak that all kinds of shit that happens globally we determine to be our business. Civil war in Syria? Holy shit, better make sure the right people win. Let's go fuck up some irregular forces that don't have helicopters or satellite support.
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stringerereply
sh.itjust.works

Oh yeah, the military-industrial complex has been an issue since Eisenhower's warning was ignored on his way out. Then again, he could have done something more about it while in office. JFK had a speech about it and wanted to curtail it before getting assassinated.

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piefed.social

I 100% believe that JFK was killed because he was serious about trying to bring some humanity to the US government.

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lemmy.world

Also why Bobby never achieved the presidency, and he had the balls to tell the rich he was going to tax them to pay for a better social safety net.

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There's a pretty good book called "Playing With Fire" about the politics of the late 60s and the events of the time. I had to stop reading it, it's too sad. Bobby Kennedy talking to the crowd after MLK was shot, not knowing that he was going to be dead the same way a short time later, just fucked me up, I put it down.

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Absolutely. The wealthy in the USA fail to be able to see a profit margin from empathy or humane policy.

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It was an issue during his presidency, when he actively participated in (at the time) the largest expansion of our nuclear arsenal in history. Eisenhower. like all American presidents, was a hypocrite.

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xisterareply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

Time is money, money is power, power is pizza, and pizza is knowledge, let's go!

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HobbitFootreply
thelemmy.club

Kind of. The Department of War was the Army only. The Department of Navy was its own department and operated based on a different set of military demands, which was a major reason why the Marines exist.

It wasn't until after World War II when the USA recognized the difficulty in having two separate departments for the military made combined operations hard to implement. You also had the Army maintaining a larger peacetime size and a third branch, the Air Force, being created to optimize for a new theater of war.

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lemmy.ca

This is so sad

Also, I think the entire world may need to prepare themselves for invasion.

I seriously hope that Europe and Canada are preparing because this shit stain will start playing the land grab game soon

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shalafireply
lemmy.world

The United State military, though the strongest on Earth, cannot compete with the combined forces of Canada and Europe. OTOH, the rest of the "free" world doesn't seem to be taking us seriously enough.

OTOOH, us American's aren't willing to go full war against our friends, and it takes hella more to drive our war machine than Trump has charisma. Civilians drive that machine, can't do without them, think on that. We're not 1930s Germany, starving under hyperinflation.

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LOL, got me! Our billionaires and political masters will not likely go that far. I'd like to think they've learned a lesson or two from history, will only drive us to the very brink of desperation.

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0x0reply

us American’s aren’t willing to go full war against our friends,

You'd need a jarhead rebellion for that not to happen.
Very unlikely, considering they join, willingly, the most belligerent military on the planet.

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lemmy.world

Jesus I need to get the fuck out of this country

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shalafireply
lemmy.world

Yeah, that's what the white pride folks are going for. Not a good look.

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An anarchist who believes in collective punishment? Is this a typical thing?

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It use to be called the Department of War, but was changed for optics and Trump is terrible at optics.

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programming.dev

They missed a great chance to pull directly out of 1984 and call it the Ministry of Peace.

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I mean seriously, things are so bad that's the least worrying part. It's not like his base won't be easily convinced not to care, between his prostitutes, the Russian peepee scandal, "touch them by the pussy", what he did with his beauty pageants, what he has done with Ghislaine Maxwell, what he has said about his own daughter. His base just does not care, all the grandstanding was all fake.

He is still going strong with his plans regarding Greenland and Canada, and what he has done with Venezuela is foreboding because it normalizes doing it more and with further steps. The steps he is taking to make the US fascist are far worrying, there's no shortage of dictators who are completely and utterly detestable yet nothing can be done because they rule in a fascist country. You need to be able to prosecute him to make him having trafficked children for sex matter.

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I mean, that's definitely a more honest name, how much of what they do is actually "defense" vs just imperialism

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It actually used to be the department of war. But they changed it because it gave away that they were invading countries instead of doing self defense.

Trump is simply taking the mask off. Which is good, honestly.

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Who would have thought Americans would be so weak in the face of a fascist takeover. It's truly pathetic.

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shirroreply
aussie.zone

Has there ever been a more timid, passive, weak, complacent, idiotic population than the current USA?

From afar I watched them passively accept people dying or losing their homes because they couldn't afford health care. I saw them go off to fight stupid unjustifiable wars overseas with little protest. But it is when I saw them accept their kids dying in mass slaughters in schools with barely any outrage for decades that I realized they had lost their humanity. If you can accept such outrageous things without acting you can and will accept anything.

A large number of them actively cheer their own downfall as a nation, their own impoverishment, their slavery and their stupidity. I wouldn't underestimate the tasking of rebuilding a civilized society there. They might kick the Trumpists out with some effort but the rot goes very, very deep.

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lemmus.org

They might kick the Trumpists out with some effort but the rot goes very, very deep."

I honestly feel that the best thing for America is to break into two parts, let the Maga / Racists have their own country, and the normal ones their own. America isn't compatible with itself as it stands.

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shirroreply
aussie.zone

They fought a very bloody civil war to avoid that outcome and the US is a much, much stronger country if they bury their differences and work for a common good. In many ways a split would be a much worse outcome than even what we are seeing at the moment.

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lemmus.org

It's funny that, the North supposedly won, doesn't look that way these days. Do you honestly think they can bury their differences? Maybe in a few generations if these Trump policies are reversed soon. Otherwise it doesn't look good for America.

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shirroreply
aussie.zone

The south is still losing. Doing even worse under Trump. Things are grim out there. People will swallow their pride and their hate for a better life for them and their kids. Well sane people will anyway. It has happened throughout history. Bitter enemies lay down their weapons and go back to living a life together. I don't believe the US has met my personal definition of sane for some time, accepting stuff no sane society would. The media and for profit religion has a big role in the psychosis I am sure.

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Has there ever been a more timid, passive, weak, complacent, idiotic population than the current USA?

You ever visited Ontario? Alberta?

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lemmy.world

Plenty of pushback against Trump. But the news coverage is always some mix of "These leftists are too weak to stop us" and "These leftists are ruining America! Send in tanks to crush them!"

Trump's already had somewhere north of three different assassination attempts on him. We've got protests and riots running from LA to DC. How many times does a President have to call out the National Guard to suppress the public before it counts?

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chaonautreply
lemmy.4d2.org

It's kinda ridiculous how out of touch the "why aren't Americans regularly shooting politicians" crowd is. Like, just completely ignoring how militarized American law enforcement is and treating the gun ownership rates as evenly distributed instead of recognizing that the same people who support Trump are the sorts to own 20-100 guns.

Hell, it wouldn't surprise me if encouraging leftists to go out and buy guns to kill politicians is straight out of the COINTELPRO playbook, given what the FBI has been doing to the Muslim communities in the US. But no, by all means, they should keep ignoring the organizing and pushback that has actually been happening and keep baying for blood, regardless of whose

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Hell, it wouldn’t surprise me if encouraging leftists to go out and buy guns to kill politicians is straight out of the COINTELPRO playbook

Americans love the idea of having someone else do their dirty work for free. So the endless "Why won't anyone shoot more Republicans? I guess they're all pussies" carping is less about the actual state of American politics and much more about people on the Internet wanting a new thing to jerk off to.

I don't know how you distinguish this from regular old Alex Jones tier bullshit.

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lemmus.org

there should be riots in the streets at this point. He's calling out the national guard for bullshit reasons and you're allowing him. The Europeans would have driven him off by now, America is a sham lol.

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dickalanreply
lemmy.world

Dude, get out of your own ass, fuck off back to Europe.

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lemmus.org

Gladly living on a continent that has nothing to do with the west. You sound like someone happy with this administration. Criticism of your shitty regime is legit, like criticism of Israel, Saudi et al. If you can't see you're no longer a democracy you need a wake up call.

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dickalanreply
lemmy.world

Bro, are you slow, read the fucking room

get out of your own ass, fuck off back to Europe.

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lemmus.org

Oh, so you pity, is that it, you don't want to acknowledge the truth. Good luck with that. And kindly fuck off too, you're unable to rebut any of my statements so your comments are just attacks.

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bitjunkiereply
lemmy.world

It's likely coming your way. I'll be sure to link you this post if we still have access to the outside internet.

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I'm between Lebanon which is already fucked and Nigeria which is, well Nigeria. More developed countries will be graced well before it hits these parts. Hopefully it will be too late then and lets just fuck the world.

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Broken clocks and all that, fantastic change. No longer can people hide behind the euphemism.

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We're regressing, it should be named the Department of Conflict-as-a-service.

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Sounds expensive. How much does it normally cost to rebrand an organisation of this size?

(and that's without needing to rewrite references to it in any legislation!)

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lemmy.zip

I mean...we've been fucking the world up since Korea and Vietnam. Arguably also WW1 (2 we sort of had an excuse because of Japan). And South America before that.

In theory it is the idea that we minimize harm to the heartland by engaging threats/"threats" before they burn down the white house again (mad props to Canada).

But nah. This is just the republicans continuing to be fucking morons. Like when perry (?) campaigned on killing the DOEnergy, got appointed as head, and realized that there were nukes next to all that clean coal.

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But nah. This is just the republicans continuing to be fucking morons. Like when perry (?) campaigned on killing the DOEnergy, got appointed as head, and realized that there were nukes next to all that clean coal.

To be fair, most people probably don't realize that nuclear weapons are under the purview of the Deptartment of Engery. Most people would guess the Deptarment of Defense cause nuclear weapons, war, the Pentagon, etc.

However, Rick Perry is still an idiot cause he was a governor of Texas for three terms and ran for President. Rick Perry should have basic understanding of how the Federal government works from being a governor; definitely should understand what Department of Energy does, if you are going to campagin on dismantling it.

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rc__buggyreply
sh.itjust.works

Oh come on, Korea was clean. Vietnam fucking wasn't but North Korea definitely poured over the 38th to kill every democracy loving Korean.

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lemmy.zip

The Korean war spun out of the Chinese Civil War and how both (simplifying) NATO and the USSR were already using it as a proxy. We got involved to protect our interests, same as any other war.

If you want to argue that South Korea is better off because of it? I fully agree (I doubt North Korea would have become the hellscape it is now, but a Warsaw Pact Korea would never be as prosperous as South Korea is today). But it was the exact same "we fight a war over there so we don't have to fight a war here" logic.

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Speaking of...

minimize harm to the heartland

We have totally capitulated our soft power to anyone who wants to take the reigns. Fuck me, we've abdicated our leadership, if we ever had it, on renewable energy. This century belongs to China, politically and militarily, and I wish them well, for all of us.

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Sounds like someone is very desperate to keep people from saying WHERE'S THE EPSTEIN FILES???

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lemmynsfw.com
  • Rebrands of Department of War: Navy, War → Navy, Army, Air Force → Defense → War
  • Rebrands of HBO Max: HBO on Broadband → HBO Go, HBO Now → HBO Max → Max → HBO Max
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president epstein, trying to do anything to not talk about himself. constant threat of tariffs since hes been doing for a while isnt working, he moved onto the troops in LA strategy, followed by faking "health issues", and insulting people. hes going to keep recycling this until people get tired of it go back to talking about the files.

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lemmy.ml

Hey at least they are honest. 🤷‍♂️ When was the last time US military done anything defensive.

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lemmy.world

Dep of health > Dep of pestilence

Dep of Agriculture > Dep of Hunger

Dep of ? > Dep of Death

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Smeagol666reply
crazypeople.online

Department of Health -> Department of Death

Department of Agriculture -> Department of Famine

Center for Disease Control -> Department of Pestilence

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On related news, the IDF will be named the ITF, for Tourism, based on their recent touring of neighbours' lands to pick their favourite.

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Typhoonreply
lemmy.ca

Are we still assuming he'll leave after his 4 years are up?

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Nelotsreply
lemmy.zip

I don't think he'll have the mental capacity by then to do otherwise tbh.

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That's perfect for the people behind him. They'll be able to just do the stuff, instead of telling him to.

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I don’t think he’ll have the mental capacity by then to do otherwise tbh.

Oh dont worry, Ted Cruz and Maga Mike will be propping up his long stiff corpse ala weekend at Bernies for decades to come.

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lemmy.world

I thought the playbook said it should be called "Ministry of Love"

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lemmy.nz

I thought that was the 'internal affairs' ministry, perhaps the Ministry of Peace?

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This is actually great. It is a big problem that department of offense has always masqueraded as national security instead of insecurity.

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I mean, it's a more accurate name I guess. It's concerning that they're dropping the euphemism, but it shouldn't be a surprise to anyone who's been paying attention.

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It was known as the department of war until shortly after WW2. This is one change where I appreciate the honesty. Doesn't make him any better.

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sh.itjust.works

This just screams to me "I'm an old man and I'm butthurt about it."

He probably just forgot it was renamed to DoD, then decided to change the name cuz his 80 going on 90 year old brain has zero plasticity.

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Victorreply
lemmy.world

I'm actually sad to say he's going on 80. I wish it were your way.

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midwest.social

It was the Department of War when we fought the Nazis and Imperial Germany, who had a lot more goals in common with Nazis than people realize.

This is a nothingburger and people are embarrassing themselves getting distracted from the Epstein files and all the actual fascism.

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Goldholzreply
lemmy.blahaj.zone

The german empire had barely anything in common with the nazis. Conquest/imperialism maybe. Authoritarianism and militarism yes. But the core of nazi idiologie, anti semitism and racism and arrian belief olus this occultism, nope

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mander.xyz

They did have genocide, racism, and antisemitism though.

Authoritarian is a meaningless term.

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Goldholzreply
lemmy.blahaj.zone

There is a difference between the society having it and being encouraged by the government and it actively comitting genocide to persue a ethno state

0

Is there though? If a society is trying to murder every one of a particular race because it thinks its necessary and justified for superior races to dominate lesser races, I'm not sure minute differences in underlying philosophy are all that important, if existant.

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zaftreply
lemmy.world

Sounds like the propaganda worked wonders on you.

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If you really did so, I have a question for you: Why did you think you could trust him?

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The US government has shifted its rhetoric. But you're fooling yourself if you believe we've meaningfully changed our foreign policy.

Half the joke of the Biden Admin was in how it picked up Trump's '20-era policies and continued them seamlessly into '25, with little more than a rainbow colored bumper sticker as a fig leaf.

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lemmy.world

I think the only logical next step is for him to get an "I'm the bad guy" t-shirt. His supporters would still say it was just a joke.

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Its sad and depressing that the sketch with the nazis asking if they were the baddies are more self aware than modern maga

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At least he's showing what America has always been. A power hungry warmongering country.

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The president of peace and all that.

We all agree this is just distraction and the arbitrary nonsense is really the point: "we make up what is true" is what they are trying to show.

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sh.itjust.works

Please get this man some more hamberders, fries and cokes. Also, maybe some doritos, fried butter sticks and corn dogs, stat.

Also, he's a pedo that was best friends with a pedo.

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This is a great sign. When they changed the war department to defense department, its primary mission went from defense to war. Now maybe it can go back.

Can anyone else load the article? I couldn’t. Does it address this?

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I'd suggest moving the coast guard and national guard, DHS, FBI to department of defense. Department of War/Offense that includes CIA/State department/NSA/Mind control propaganda is good. The $1T+ budget of department of offense represents $10k/year per tax filing household, and it becomes an obvious, even in "I like money" idiocracy state, that people could vote for a $10k annual dividend instead of paying for the department of offense.

It was already extreme BS to call US empire funding "defense".

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lemmy.world

How wasteful, since the US hasn't been at war since 1947...

Should be the department of military policing actions.

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lemmy.world

I just want the civil war at this point. So much if my mental anguish would dissipate if I could just kill some Magats

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sh.itjust.works

When you imagine this, don't leave out the part where you slowly starve to death over months, sustaining yourself on rotten, maggot filled food, while watching a new one of your family's bodies get blown into a red paste with each passing day because I think a lot of people forget about that part of war when they day dream about this stuff.

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lemmy.world

If you have a chronic health condition, are particularly ill, or have a disability, good luck. You'll need it.

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I think OP's point was more, "Let's just fucking get it over with, come what may." I have to admit, being a student of modern history, that may be the best option.

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The problem with that is it will just be a bunch of traumatized kids who have been indoctrinated and used as cannon fodder while the real problems are hidden behind keyboards and walled gardens. Children who have been taught that everything bad that happens to them is the fault of this "other" group they fear and don't understand because of the sheltered and twisted world they're born into.

Authoritarians would LOVE for this country to be split, much easier for branches of control to take over.

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It's not even that nice when you abbreviate it:

Before: DOD = Dee Oh Dee. Has a nice flow

Now: DOW = Dee Oh Dup?

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I know this is out of place in this time in history, but I believe that to have been the case in the (maybe far) past.

Who started calling them ministries of defense and amidst what pressures from society?

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Unironically the only based thing a president has ever contemplated doing, except, like, the emancipation proclamation.

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I guess we couldn't have a female president because we'd have war only every 28 days

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Someone should open a betting pool of how long before he dies from natural causes.

that should send a message of how "popular" he is.

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No, cunts are to be fucked lovingly, not repeatedly with a barbwire rod.

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lemmy.zip

This doesn't even make much sense

Most of what the department of the defense does is defense and security.

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kbin.earth

My inner conspiracy theorist is telling me that someone at the DoD described climate change as a national security threat that the department needs to address as part of handling defence and that's what triggered this

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lemmy.ml

Seems plausible. Just judging on his public statements though, this is likely related to his comments during the Zelensky visit on canceling elections during wartime.

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lemmy.world

God dammit. Stop being right. Ugh. How is this asshole in this position??? He tells us the quiet part out loud. He tells us he's going to do absolutely dumb shit. Then he does dumb shit. And people see him do that dumb shit. And everyone is surprised he did the thing he said he was going to do.

He says he'll do awful shit. And everyone dismisses it, because nobody would be THAT bad, right?

I mean, he told he was going to do it if you gave him power. Then he was given power. Why are you surprised he's doing the dumb shit?

I'm more surprised that he was given power.

Twice.

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That’s my guess too. Claim he can cancel elections during wartime, rename it to the DOW, and then point at the DOW and say we’re at war so he can cancel the election.

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lemmy.world

Except for WW2, name one conflict where we defended anything or secured anything (other than did company contracts).

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