Millionaire big game hunter gored to death in ambush by "Black Death" buffalo
cross-posted from: https://sopuli.xyz/post/31615762
womp womp
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Whenever I read about these hunters getting killed there is always this element in the reporting that it was a tragedy. It wasn't. It was a glorious victory. Two entered a death match (one unwilling) and one survived. The buffalo defied odds heavily stacked against it and won. The buffalo didn't ask to be the target of a wanker with a gun who likes killing things for fun. The wanker should also acknowledge that they're are risks in playing death games. Sorry dude you lost. Buffalo won. Buffalo should get to live like a king as its prize.
I think there are many hunters who would agree.
I'd be on that list.
Another one here. I’ve never gone out in the field unless I plan on cooking what I bring back. If I fight nature and nature wins…so it is.
Good luck nature!
I vote for nature to take care of city dwellers who buy their food instead of gather and grow it themselves like we do. Those who pave over nature for a new strip mall or condos. They're a huge strain on the earth with their plastic shit and need for new all the time. Not to mention the masses of viable farmland that are consumed for building.
Yet we are the ones who are hated on and reviled. People are fucked.
Oh, you think all the millions of people in cities would be able to do what you think they should do? Millions of people just disperse through the wilds and hunt and forage and grow a little plot of food?
No I don't think that but thanks for speaking for me.
Same. Most hunters abhor trophy sport
I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of Klingon voices suddenly cried out in agreement and were suddenly honored. I
fearknow something glorious has happened... this is Trekkie bait, don't take it....
You're just salty that Dumbledore got to help rid the world of that evil ring while others flew around in their Iron Man suits!
I never saw Harry Potter but I know that's where Dumbledore is from, so I will assume this is an accurate plot synopsis.
Guns are for punks. Fight with your hands or GTFO.
(I'd PPV that all day. It's like watching parkour YouTubes, just screaming and damage everywhere.)
Human hands are shit compared to what everything else has, at least allow them to use our oldest and arguably best tool. Spear hunting alone still carries a shit tonne of risk unless you are going after fish and even then watch your foot. Id watch one of this dipshits fumble with a spear for 4 minutes before getting ripped apart, it'd be like mixing slapstick with gladiatorial games.
If Mas Ooyama could kill bulls with his bare hands these pussies can learn to do that too.
While I'm sure you could find some rural folks who would do that happily, after all one of my kinsmen likes to hunt bore with knives before he sells it in his shop. We need to give these profligates fucks the illusion they have a chance, I want them to have hope before they get gored.
As long as they don’t go ill the animal later anyway. Big cats that kill peoples seem to get table down and killed in most stories I hear.
Good thing humans aren't known to be vengeful... I hope that buffalo is like 2 countries over by now with a new identity drinking a mai tai.
Hunting isn't always a bad thing, in fact it can be a huge part of keeping healthy populations of animals, just read an article in the Audabon magazine last night that talked about snow geese and how their numbers have increased to the point they are destroying their environment and that even increasing hunting numbers at this point hasn't made a dent. Many big game animal hunting can be great for the area they are in, so long as it's done responsibly and reasonably. And most hunters know the risks, it's part of the hunt. There are few that don't, and most are in favor of wildlife management so they can continue this in the future.
Yeah, I'm sure it was unprovoked by the car full of people following it for hours.
Oh no! Is the buffalo ok?
He's traumatized from the hostility and will have PTSD. But he did the right thing.
God sending Harambe back for one last job.
Also said it was going 35mph when it hit him. Nice.
TheBullWins
Grizzly bears can do 35 mph too, but they're less "hit by a truck" than "hit by a wood chipper".
Last I heard Luigi is en route to be somebody's mount.
“Locals shocked that megafauna are megafauna and humans are not invincible just because they have guns.”
In South Africa too. Like, do they not get that wild animals don’t play by human rules? It’s bigger than you. You took that risk.
I carry in the woods every time I'm out. Wouldn't want to try my luck against a bear. Especially don't like my odds against a panther.
Well yeah. But you're not using something scoped; more boomsticky for the boonies, I'd say.
This warms my heart ❤️🥰
That buffalo deserves that millionaire's body as trophy.
Oh No! A millionaire trophy hunter was brutally mauled to death by a vicious beast? This is a terrible tragedy :( Seriously, what could be more important than the life of a complete and utter scumbag?
I wonder how many innocent children starved and were murdered by the IDF today?
Doesn't matter- didn't you hear? A rich white man was killed!
This is why it naked the news att all.. it's engagement. Just leave ragebait alone
If it had naked the news I probably wouldn't mind so much. ;)
The sad fact is, this isn't really ragebait. The media has always treated the ruling class as more important than us plebians. For much of history- the public kind of agreed with them about that and no one raged about it. It's only fairly recently that it's become slightly more mainstream for people to be class conscious (in the last 100 years at least). I'm sure IrishstarDOTcom just thought this was a newsworthy death.
Now I'm wondering if NakedNews is still a thing... Haven't thought of that in many years.
Edit: apparently so. At least the website still exists.
Haha that's an acceptable typo :) Maybe it works online because it can simultaneously be ragebait and idol bait. But you are correct, the obsession especially for women for some reason with the aristocrat celebs is baffling
"Why are you attacking me I'm just trying to hunt you"
Man minding his own bussiness stalking an animal to kill it, inexplicably attacked by animal he was plotting to kill.
Rest in piss 👋
I think this is more "fuck around and find out" than "leopards ate my face".
Unless the guy lobbied to make what he did legal, and I don't think he did, I agree with you.
What a traumatic experience for the buffalo, I hope it's ok.
Nothing of value was lost.
There should be a photo of the buffalo posing with his body, like all those pics of him posing with his kills.
cute
I am sure this would enrage a lot of people. I am in.
FAFO. No animal deserves to die according to the pleasure of some jackass human.
Are you human?
Place your hands in the yellow circles. This is a police action!
I am an alien vegan
Buffalo ate my face.
Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo ate my face.
Tragic.
So what's everyone having for dinner?
Half a pound of camembert so far.
..... it was a long day.
The food of gods
Filét American Millionaire
Homemade burger and (oven) fries.
I’d really like something rich in flavour
Hunter stew.
"Delicioso!"
RIP Bozo
Lol fair's fair, pretty sure he was fixing to kill a buffalo
No. Actually, if you read Adams, it should be a pretty just system, the problem being people I that system, without checks and balances.
People, not systems, are the problem.
A new system that allows entrepreneurship, while protecting those who just want to go and clock-in, allows private property, but prevents accumulation and speculation, etc... But designed from the ground up to prevent major deviations, is in order.
Pussy, ambushing a lone buffalo while armed with a big game gun!
Run the bulls in Pamplona, like real men do.
That's like saying the players don't suck for losing, it's the ref and the rules of the game.
Human nature is what it is. We need our political and economic systems to rein it in and channel it towards good*.
Yes.
Think the problem is that no one has dreamed up a political/economic system that actually reigns it in.
You can see a change by moving from one to another, but once everyone has settled into the 'rules' of the game, some asshats game whatever rules those are to be back on top again.
Well, there are very few things that are perfect. Making small improvements one step at a time usually leads to more than good enough results. It's when most people stop trying to improve things when it starts falling apart. And when it gets bad enough to wake people up, it is usually too late for easy fixes.
Hot take, I'll offer an alternative perspective. Obviously, poaching is one of the most disgusting crimes. Sourcing animal parts for folk remedies is reprehensible.
Responsibly managed hunting generates a ton of money, some of which which gets invested into the local community and into conservation efforts.
The key word here is responsible. If a land manager shared wealth in an equitable fashion with the locals, and demonstrates careful management of animal herds by close monitoring of populations, that's responsibility. I wouldn't want to hunt on lands owned by, say, a literal nazi in South Africa. But, unfortunately, as long as we live under capitalism, I have a hard time imagining a different way to encourage the world to preserve our natural resources.
I don't disagree but I also think it's fair game for the hunted to win. That should be part of the point of big game hunting, it's fucking dangerous and tbh it's a little satisfying as a poor when the buffalo beats the millionaire in a battle to the death the millionaire started
The need for managed culls is partially driven by the displacement of predators and other disruption from human activity but ok
True in many cases but not all, and the people managing these populations are almost never directly responsible for the problem. For example the species I now help manage in my country were introduced generations before my birth. Same for the overwhelming majority of the land clearing, it was done before even my parents existed.
I can't change history, but I can take some responsibility for mitigating the damage of those who came before me.
Well yeah I said partially
It's less about managed culls and more about raising funds for conservation.
While trophy hunting is fucked up, I'd like to remind people that hunting as done by regular people and not this millionaire bozo is a critical aspect of conservation.
Hunting keeps deer and elk from overpopulating and stressing the habitats of other wild life. It is the only thing that keeps prion diseases in these populations in check. Hunters are a necessity because humans have displaced and culled apex predators who played the same role.
So you're saying we need more lions and tigers and bears? Oh my
Is that an Epic Rap Battles reference in the wild?
It's actually a wizard of Oz reference 🤣
Right, ERB just referenced it. TIL I guess.
They do tend to make a lot of references! I don't know the one you're referring to though
It's in the Ivan the Terrible vs Alexander the great video, in the verse by Frederick the great.
As someone who tries to limit their own meat intake, I'd be all for an increased social trend of eating venison or kangaroo, especially if regional hunters can get them into supply chains going elsewhere. It's not a practice that could go on for decades, but we could fulfill a need to limit populations, give people a chance for sport outdoors, while also providing a source of meat that's not horrifically industrialized.
Oh boy! My favorite topic.
Disclaimer: I have no horse in this race, I don't hunt or care to start hunting and if recreational hunting is more detrimental to sustained ecosystems than other tactics then it should be replaced, I'm more concerned with using good, reliable information to form conclusions
The first and third link doesn't appear to link to any citations or data to support it's claims, so I think it's fair to treat it as an option piece but I think we should have better standards when making decisions that can affect our stewardship of the world around us
The second is quite long but from what I can gather it is the best of the 4 in that it is based on a survey of peer reviewed research and makes a good thorough case against a subset of recreational hunting, specifically trophy hunting, as unethical.
The last link says overabundance is not a scientific term used in the scientific literature, but I can clearly see it is in many widely cited research papers (two usages, one in linguistics and one in biology)
https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=overabundant
And in the additional resources section there's a few broken links and the closest I can find to a peer review article is a letter to the editor of a journal, not identified as a peer reviewed article and without public access to the methodology if it contains one
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0304380005003339
https://www.researchgate.net/post/Is_Letter_to_the_Editor_considered_as_research_article_publication_Does_it_carry_any_value_in_terms_of_research_score
I live in a country (not US) that has been isolated from many countries for millions of years and had many invasive species introduced by humans in the past few hundred.
These invasive species have devastated local/native wildlife and grown to ridiculous levels. If humans did nothing to stop them, including hunting them, they would completely take over and extinct many more species than they already have, reducing diversity.
Not stopping them, again which includes hunting and trapping, would be amoral and worse for the planet
You didn't even read paper that you linked.
The only credible source that is well cited is the paper about the Consequences of recreational hunting for biodiversity conservation and livelihoods, and it explicitly states that recreational hunting (aka trophy hunting) is NOT subsistence or commercial hunting.
This paper's focus is on evaluating the dubious claims about conservation that recreational hunters uses to justify themselves. It is criticizing the same that I was criticizing, which is that there is no justifiable excuse for trophy hunting.
You linked a bunch of random vegan sites, so I assume you're vegan. Look, I get it. Eating and killing animals is fucked up. But you're barking up the wrong tree here. Subsistence hunters, which most deer hunters are, are causing far less animal suffering than the vast majority of people who eat factory farmed animals.
I'm not going to pretend I'm vegan because I'm not, but I have cut down meat consumption by 75%. If you want to make a real difference, you'll find that telling everyone to eat 10% less meat is far easier than telling 10% of the world to become vegan. If you actually give a shit about animals, do what works, not what feels good to yourself. Remember that humans grow up in an environment that culturally enforced and prizes meat consumption. Remember that not everywhere and everyone has good access to vegan alternatives.
I parsed that sentence wrong and the next paragraph didn't help me correct it.
I was in full WTF mode for a second there.
Also can someone explain to me what a luxury ranch is? Cause I just imagine it's a fucked up modern day plantation with extra steps.
A luxury ranch is usually a place where you pay a lot of money to go hunt, and stay in very nice hotel like accommodations. Often they are high fenced properties where they are breeding deer to have extremely large abnormal antlers also known as "non-typicals" a hunter might pay $10-100k to pick one from a catalog and be plopped into a blind with a guide to shoot said deer.
The reason behind the buffalo's attack on the trackers remains unclear>
Well, just a wild guess, but "These creatures are shooting at me and want to kill me" sounds like a pretty good reason.
This should be posted in "uplifting."
Edit: it was!
Oh well....
If they wanna call it a “sport” they have to let both sides win and lose.
The Hunt is about one thing, survival. And only one of you gets to claim it.
You gotta do some pretty stupid stuff to get killed by a deer imo.
Yeah but Deer can also cause other ecological problems if left uncontrolled. Like, no, they're not likely to gore you except for in specific seasons, but they can hurt you in other ways.
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Good. I hope the buffalo is okay.
Luigi showed how it's done. And a buffelo is the one to step in his footsteps? All hail this buffelo, shame on the test.
Good.
#TeamOrca and #TeamBuffalo
These "hunters" can eat shit.
And team Bee for that one the other day
Haha! Hunter became the hunted and got what he deserves. Hunting for sport is so lame. Go fly a kite!
In my country hunters try to avoid overpopulation of species (which older generations of hunters caused by getting rid of the local Wolf population), not murdering for fun.
Also, many of the big game hunts in Africa and such target older males that aren't procreating, but are preventing younger males from doing so, and the large fees they charge go to conservation efforts.
Hunters over here oppose the reintroduction of new wolf populations and want to shoot them all dead so fuck them.
Luigi Buffalo!
Hum, how to properly respond..... Lulz
Thoughts and prayers
Thoughts and prayers
I love a happy ending
While I appreciate the sentiment, the man in question was a hunter in favor of the environment rather than some MAGA fuckhead who loves shooting rounds at animals to prove his manhood
Small comfort to the buffalo.
https://feddit.org/post/16936283/8227742
To play the devil's advocate; Some of these hunts are purposeful culling for heard health. Plus, African nations make a few bucks. Also, guns aren't magic kill switches. I'd be scared shitless if even a little black bear was charging me, no matter which pistol or shotgun I was carrying.
OTOH, sounds like this guy wanted the challenge. Meh. Ya win some ya lose some. 😆
Very unlikely for a black bear to charge a person unless it had been fed by humans in the past. Often they get so startled at the sight of us that they take off running and climb a tree.
They're pretty common in human areas where I live, but not especially interested in us. They've got bear things to do.
You reap what you sow
Has anyone watched Murderbot yet? It's really good.
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Excellent. That’s one for us today.
"darn"
He probably had a tag for just that exact individual. Odds are it was issued because that individual was a hazard to the local area and or other members of the species. I used to hate big game trophy hunting but I have come to understand it is much more complicated and beneficial than the headlines lead people to believe.
He probably paid an arm and a leg for that tag which was going to fund conservation and the meat was going to feed the village.
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Bro, we're just glad a billionaire is dead. The irony of the hunter ended up dead by his prey is just icing on the cake, it wouldn't matter if the hunter was a billionaire or not. The justification behind the hunt is irrelevant.
Millionaire* but that doesn't really change anything.
I have no water to give for the dead here and I appreciate a fair fight.
But the whole big game issue is way more of a public good than most people realize.
Good comment but how do you know the buffalo is a he?
Almost all of the tags issues are disruptive males so statistically it was a safe bet.
But after checking I see that the DailyMail is stating it was a male.
if you carefully re-read your earlier comment and mine, you will hopefully see the joke i was attempting to make
I've had others ask me in other places. So might as well answer seriously.
ok i am going to accept failure and explain the joke: your comment did not, in fact, mention the buffalo being male. but i was pretending to have read it with the assumption that the "he" you were referring to was the buffalo, and the tagged individual who was a hazard to members of its own species was in fact the millionaire who died. get it now? 🙄
Stupid pays
Oh no how unfortunate.
Kudos to the Cape Buffalo and glad he/she was pissed off. During a visit to Kruger National Park, it was a bit nerve wracking sitting in a vehicle while a herd of Cape Buffalo surround you.
Good.
Nature bats last.... full respect to Comrade Buffalo.
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Did the Buffalo get a picture posing with the dead hunter?
buffalo stomped yo ass.
52? Should be picking out his mobility scooter, not playing "food Rambo" in his Cabela's get up.
You can very very active at age 52 if you maintain your health. Go to the gym and eat well now so you can avoid picking out a mobility scooter at age 52.
As a personal antidote, I would say that health is “free” up to age like 30. After age 30 you need to put some work in.
I just picture an elderly gen-xer with his beer belly, dropping his reading glasses in the forest and going OH NO like Mike Stoklasa in RLM videos, and has a heart attack from the strain of picking up his glasses, while thinking that he's better than when he was in his 20s (a common mental illness among my gen x cohort).
I call it "Middle Age Delusional Syndrome". There is nothing better than youth, and our lack of anti-aging technology, or even interest in it, baffles me.
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Someone's eating at macca's everyday
That would be "every day". And no. But I know a guy who's my age who does, and he can't even stand for five minutes and he starts complaining about needing to sit down.
I can hear Paul Heyman doing the call..... "GORE! GORE! GORE!"
sometimes you're the hunter.... other times you're the prey.
I'm sorry that buffalo had to go through that.
Oh no.
https://youtu.be/eKNWcoMJ7BI&t=1
They have to let one die every 50 trips to preserve the sense of danger
Read "bored to death" and didn't understand why it should be a leopards material.