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Retail beef prices are soaring, but I can tell you from the other end, auction sale prices of market weight steers sure as fuck hasn't gone up that much.

Lot of squeezing happening in the middle somewhere. Curious, that one.

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lemmy.world

We noticed this when we went to a Texas Roadhouse. Their restaurant prices for steaks hadn’t gone up hardly at all and seemed very surprisingly reasonable, whole beef at the grocer is painful.

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It's been that way for a while. If there is no sale I can get a restaurant steak cheaper than the store.

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Living in Nebraska I can get shrimp, lobster , salmon, tuna steaks far cheaper than a fucking ribeye right now

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Not sure where you are, but here in Alberta it's more than double what it was a few years ago to buy a half steer, and I'm buying from a family member.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

I dont want to sound condescending but this is pretty simple economics.

If you tax imports then vendors of local products will increase prices to match the imported goods.

The market for local beef is an oligopoly with only a few buyers, so it's easy for them to manipulate the price.

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The market for local beef is an oligopoly with only a few buyers, so it’s easy for them to manipulate the price

That's an oligopsony, not an oligopoly which would have only a few sellers.

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feddit.nl

And suddenly MAGA was vegan because it's "patriotic" or something...

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kbin.earth

This may surprise you, but a lot of far/right people are vegan, and into permaculture, recycling, etc.

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They are not vegan. They are into permaculture because they're in a "manly man make money women stay home" cult and they can't afford to have 5 kids and a stay at home wife on husband's paycheck.

Those who have the room usually raise chickens at least, there's centrally not a large intersection of vegans and far right people.

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lemmy.world

People will just switch to chicken, pork, or add “meat free Friday” to their menus. Consumers are fed up at this point and aren’t going to pay some of these prices.

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sopuli.xyz

I am a vegetarian, however my dog is not. She has multiple allergies (chicken, and all grains) and I have to cook her food for her. It is getting really expensive to feed her.

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lemmy.world

Look into rabbit or kangaroo, depending on where you're located they could be reasonably priced vs beef. Pets with common protein allergies usually don't have reactions to those, or venison for that matter.

Source: one of our cats is allergic to basically all poultry, we switched to rabbit and salmon based foods

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lemmy.world

Look into rabbit or kangaroo

Interesting how things that hop don't have the triggering protein. Now I wonder how frog and crickets would compare...

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lemmy.world

Lmao. Seriously though it's exposure; beef, chicken and pork are the cheapest and most common animal proteins available to pet food manufacturers so they're in just about everything. If for some reason the animal has an immune response and those proteins are present at the time the immune system can decide that they're the cause and the animal then develops an allergy or sensitivity to them. With limited ingredient or single protein foods you're just dodging the proteins most pets are pre-exposed to and feeding them one that doesn't cause their immune system to think they're under attack.

One of our cats is so allergic to poultry (chicken, eggs, etc) that he'll scratch and chew himself bloody if he eats it consistently. We had to switch to rabbit and fish based foods or he was an unhappy creature. Just giving him a cat treat with chicken as an ingredient has him scratching his neck immediately and he'll have a couple of fresh scabs by the next morning.

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aussie.zone

I'd be shocked if you could get cheap roo. I'm Australian and roo costs more than beef here.

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Ya gotta teach your kitties to chase down their own Roos. My kitties love to hunt mice, a Roo is just a big mouse.

Oh, right, I just remembered Sylvester getting his ass kicked by a Roo in the old Looney Tunes cartoons, maybe that isn't such a great idea.

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Fair enough, roo protein cat food is about the same cost here as rabbit or venison but I'm assuming they're all a bit over priced

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piefed.social

This is the result with my wife and I. Before I was pushing us to eat less beef for environmental reasons but years ago the price went up enough that its essentially a special occasion thing and fast food went out the window with their prices getting to high. What stinks is pork is something I wanted to eliminate but its cost vs quality tends to beat out all other meats except maybe the five dollar costco chickens.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

Damn, it's the same exact thing at my house, I could have written this. Beef is absolutely a special occasion thing at my house, I now cook it maybe twice a year. I really dislike pork for various reasons, but chicken prices have gone up a lot too. I just can't do the pork though, sometimes I'll get sausage(s) when the local maker has them on sale, but thats it.

I've been preparing a lot more bean dishes this last year or so, often times I won't have meat so my husband and son can have it and it stretches further.

Beef is so resource intensive to produce, I'm not actually that upset its gotten so expensive, it probably should be expensive. So a beef dish feel special when we have do have it.

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That last paragraph real rings with me to. Im not a good cook and my wife does that is a bit more meat centric than I. My dream would be a lacto/ovo frutarian but Im not sure I could do it even if I was rich with a highly skilled personal chef.

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Sad to hear that a single day a week without eating meat is an inconvenience for some :(

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sopuli.xyz

MAYBE if we give Producers LESS Regulations and Competition they'll DROP Prices?

-Donald Trump and ALSO Democrats!

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Corporate dictatorship, doing corporate dictatorship things, because it's a corporate dictatorship.

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I don't know, it seems trickle down has been a great success... for the wealthy!

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Yeah, and unlike gas prices going up there are readily available alternatives people can switch to easily with little cost.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

if production doesn't decrease, the environment won't notice.

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NSRXNreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

advertising increases or prices drop or new markets are opened

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sh.itjust.works

Surely a store with no customers will still exist! Love this argument and how solid the logic is. Follow your little thought experiment farther than just a few steps.

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sh.itjust.works

By out competing the meat vendors, yes. I'm not saying we need to outlaw them.

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ttrpg.network

People are too emotionally invested in meat. They'd rather die in record high temperatures than go without or even reduce.

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ttrpg.network

I feel like the "I have to eat meat every day" people overlap a lot with the "I refuse to wear a mask" people. Are you thinking they're largely different people?

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I love beans. So many ways to eat them. I put white acre peas and tuna in mac & cheese a little while ago, and look forward to eating it again.

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lemmy.sdf.org

You put a 50% tariff on Brazil, your biggest exporter of meat, and you wonder why prices soar... Fucking dumbasses.

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lemmy.sdf.org

The sheer irony of this reply

Your original comment said "imports to the US" which is so incredibly hilariously wrong. Any which country "exports to" and "imports from". You can't have it both ways, doofus.

And the fact that you disagree with a given source doesn't make it false, lmao. You have a right to disagree, but the fact that you deleted your comment says enough IMO.

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reddthat.com

Good quality beef, pork, and chicken are all around the same price here, $8-10 per pound. Fish has been cheap just because it's so light, but it seems to have increased a lot, too. Salmon has gone from like $4 to $30 for a good-sized piece.

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lemmy.beru.co

Or just get the lamb over rice. They say it's lamb; I know it's mystery meat, I don't care. Great success.

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lemmy.world

Dear leader promised to lower grocery prices on day one so they must be low, right? Don't believe your eyes, just believe in the plan they say.

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Let's face it, as long as immigrants are scared of white men and women can't leave kitchen without permission MAGA will be fine with pretty much anything. They see it as a price worth paying for the feeling of being respected again.

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I got a feeling this administration is gonna release a an influenza in late October that only affects the turkey industry. If he could he would wreck Thanksgiving for everyone. Simply speaking, it’s the folks that prop this puppet not just dt that need removal. It’s that Stephen Miller bitch who needs his skull turned into an ashtray. It’s the inhuman Tom Homan , he’s despicable on his best day. If we can begin that process of removal , I then have a shred of faith that America may begin to recover. Unfortunately, some serious sausage is gonna need to be tubed up. Well ya’ll understand how it happens. No need to go on to any further detail here.

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lemmy.ca

These are the corpses of vulnerable individuals who experienced cruelty, violence, and atrocity. There is nothing provided by their bodies and secretions that a human being needs to be healthy and happy that cannot be obtained more cheaply without the exploitation and abuse of vulnerable individuals.

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lemmy.zip

While i agree with you, phrasing it like this is just getting the whole topic ridiculed by anyone who doesn't already agree with you anyway..

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lemmy.world

But how would we know if that poster's a vegan if they didn't lecture us?

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Where is the lecture?

You seem so personally attacked by someone responding to an article with facts of individuals suffering and suggesting we deviate.

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ttrpg.network

Someone who rejects the content because they don't like the form is an idiot. Unfortunately, all of us are idiots like that.

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The real sticking point is that if they agree out loud then they have to stop eating meat or be a hypocritical, and they won't accept either.

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Please enlighten me on what makes this statement easy to ridicule? All they have said is these individuals deserve respect and we shoukd find proper alternatives elsewhere.

I think you should bemoan the people who ridicule rather than people asking for liberation of individuals.

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