Spyke
lemmy.world

Nobody has done more to disprove the "Rich people are smarter than everyone else" idea.

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9point6reply
lemmy.world

Remember a decade ago when he was being lauded as our time's Einstein?

........ Hahahahahahaha

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alekwithakreply
lemmy.world

Yeah by his own PR team, mostly, but it was a pretty easy fascade to see through when you actually listened to the man speak. Still don't forgive Dan Harmon for letting him shit on R&M with the eLoN tUsK bullshit. Or Star Trek Discovery for that matter, which happened much later after he had already shown his true face to the world. I know Harmon got paid because he's talked about it, but I would really like to know how much he spent on getting a passing reference in the least popular ST show of all time.

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shalafireply
lemmy.world

The one where Tony blew him off and made him look a fool?

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SatyrSackreply
lemmy.sdf.org

I would really like to know how much he spent on getting a passing reference in the least popular ST show of all time.

From what I have heard, that part of the line was not even scripted. The actor ad libbed it in hopes that it might lead to him being gifted a free Tesla vehicle.

EDIT: There was also the completely unrelated reference in a later episode, in which a character mentioned having gone to Musk Junior High School. That may have been a paid reference.

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alekwithakreply
lemmy.world

Damn, that's somehow so much worse!

Forgot about the Musk jr high 🤦🤦🤦

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sh.itjust.works

My head canon is that in universe Musk Jr. High isn't a real school and it's just an edgy joke.. the space version of saying you went to the "Adolf Hitler School for Tolerance and Friendship"

You say it for a laugh when you're 14 or acting like it on Space 4Chan

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Cruxifuxreply
feddit.nl

Yeah I realized it as soon as I heard him on Joe Rogan. I was like “oh, this guy is actually not a super genius at all.”

Now I think he’s kind of a moron actually.

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I knew it was a grift from the start because people who are kind and wise don't spend millions purely to make sure I know how kind and wise they are.

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A friend of mine has head canoned that the guy from Star Trek was joking about being from Elon Musk University and that it's the old "Adolf Hitler School for Friendship and Tolerance" gag but in space.

I'm just gonna go with that because fuck it's the equivalent of listing Deepak Chopra as one of the greatest philosophers of the 21st century in your hard sci-fi setting.

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dohpaz42reply
lemmy.world

There was also an episode of Young Sheldon where Sheldon had sent equations for reusable rockets to NASA, and at the end of the episode it showed Elon buying the equations from NASA.

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He was also in South Park, and Rick & Morty. He had a great PR team considering what they were working with behind the scenes. They dressed him up real nice.

Then he fired them, because he didn't like having to wear anything in public. Metaphorically-speaking.

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sh.itjust.works

And I am proud to have called bullshit on it from day one.

Whoever leads us to the promised land isn't going to have a for profit LLC

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skisnowreply
lemmy.ca

Well done. I'm like most people in that I didn't spot it until he started talking about a subject I knew about. The first Tesla Roadster looked amazing^1^, and then the hyperloop sounded like a cool idea^2^, and then oh wait what's he saying about software development now?

^1^ because its body was made by Lotus

^2^ except it doesn't work

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It wasn't anything specific, it's just... the idea of this guy being the real life Tony Stark didn't pass the smell test. Not because he didn't seem bright, but because I couldn't believe ANYONE lived up to the hype that Elon had.

That and... well... the idea of the Private Corporation coming to save the day and guide us into a Utopia sounded way too much like a Libertarian Fantasy.

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Yeah, he's like LLMs in that regard. Sounds plausible until it's a subject you don't have much knowledge of, then suddenly turns into a dribbling twat when it's one you do understand.

Then you realise he was an idiot all along.

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I've heard Tony Stark but not Einstein. I'd be insulted for Einstein.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

Literally had someone saying that earlier today. Something along the lines of "you don't become the richest person in the world without some competency." Just ignore the fact he started on third base...

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Not even. He started on home, he just claimed he ran there and for some reason people believed him even though he still had a bat in his hand.

Elon has had "Penisdick" written all over him since day one

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jacksilverreply
lemmy.world

I mean, yeah he had a lot of advantage, but he did have to do something right to become the richest man. But making some good gambles doesn't make you a good person nor does it mean you're great at everything.

Maybe he was good at finding companies at the right time to invest, but that means jack about any economic or political acumen. Same reason why we don't want businessmen in politics, being good at one thing does not mean you're good at everything.

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lemm.ee

I don't know exactly how much his parents were worth, but his net worth has increased by many thousands of times. That's not "third base", saying he got where he is by luck and nepotism is just wilfully ignorant.

Trump, on the other hand, would have done better if he just left his money in a savings account.

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lemm.ee

I dunno, man, we could probably get into an entire dissertation about this, but I'm not totally convinced that most of these fabulously wealthy people didn't just fail upwards by throwing the spaghetti plate at the wall; the only difference between them and us is that, often, they start with a lot more spaghetti to throw

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lemm.ee

Pretty much all of the three digit billions crowd are in tech of some description. There's definitely an element of being in the right place at the right time, but there's also a lot of business skills as well.

A lot of their success seems to be recognising an opportunity before anyone else, whether that's luck or skill is difficult to know.

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skisnowreply
lemmy.ca

A lot of their success seems to be recognising an opportunity before anyone else

Pretty much everyone in the world has at some point in their lives had some idea or spotted some gap in the market that could be a successful product, but 99% of us don't get to act on that because the rent is due and will be due again next month.

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lemmy.ca

I largely agree with what you're saying, but he's been in the right place at the right time 3 times, and made good on the potential. Maybe he was just really lucky, maybe he had dozens of things going and those 3 are the ones that panned out, maybe he was a genius that destroyed his talents with hubris and drugs. Certainly, having the financial security to take those chances was a big factor in his success, as much as apparently believing that success was all due to his inborn talent was a big factor on his continuing fall from grace.

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lemm.ee

How do they know who's full of shit and who knows what they're talking about though?

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lemm.ee

I genuinely think he's had some sort of cognitive decline.

He went from being merely wealthy to the richest man in the world, and nearly everyone thinking he's a genius, to being hated by nearly everyone and losing money fast.

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Think is, he never was a genius - actually quite far off from it

He is just a spoiled boy having luck with gambling the money he got

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Generally the truly smartest people (the ones who actually figure out spaceflight, electric vehicles, satellite internet) aren't the wealthiest. Sure many of them end up pretty wealthy due to stock options, high salaries, companies competing for them and the like. But often at the end of the day they just retire into their wealth and spend their days traveling or living in their huge houses or whatever.

But the CEOs, the politicians, the investors, the self-labelled "Founders," those approaching or in the 1%; For those it's not about making something, doing their jobs, changing the world, etc. It's about winning. They need to feel better than others. And for most of them that feeling never goes away. They rarely retire, and often even when they do they still pull strings from the background (see Bill Gates). Some psychopathic part of their brain makes it so their most important and purest drive is to constantly get to that next target, that next exponential stock valuation, that next acquisition, that next news broadcast they can jerk off to about how they beat someone else in a campaign or about how line go up or whatever.

So when these people are in the middle of their career, they're relatively unnoticeable by most. They're "founding" companies by employing those smarter than them with money they have. They're selling said companies, moving on. They're making shady deals, laundering money, because they are smart enough to beat the system and the system is against them because they're so smart.

But for those that amass enough wealth like Elon, the drive never goes away. But what do you do after you're the richest person in the world? Well, try to become the most powerful person in the world. But you can't just run for office, the ketamine has told you that it's faster to latch onto the recent rapid rise in fascism so you join up with Trump. Who gives a shit what kind of person he is, especially because eventually you'll beat him. He's a stepping stone for now, a boost pad to get you speaking with those who can get you real power, and more money because it's never enough.

But thinking that everything in the world works like a startup, and if you just hire more college grads, crack the whip, take stimulants to stay up to ship the product in a completely inconceivable world (government and social policy) to what you're used to (technology and product development), it all falls apart. And then when you've always had success with the investors siding with you because "line go up," you suddenly don't have success because "line don't go up" in the white house and Trump is getting pressure to find something to cover up giving 2 trillion dollars to the rich and there's no quick fix.

So you do more ketamine, lash out. You always knew trump was a pedo, a garbage human, but it didn't matter because he was a stepping stone, so now, probably earlier than you'd like, you pull out your cards of putting him down in the hopes that you can get that power that you need because the money doesn't matter now, feeling that you beat him is what's most important.

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steboreply
sopuli.xyz

yeah that much power and money certainly does something to your brain, the guy can't think straight anymore

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k0e3reply

Seriously? I thought Edison at best, but Einstein? What did this shithead discover, exactly?

Edit: whoops wrong comment to reply.

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lemmy.world

He collected data on all Americans from multiple government agencies, successfully killed multiple investigations into several of his companies, and secured additional government contracts for those companies. Is that what we're calling nothing these days?

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lemmy.ca

And Trump is now threatening to cancel those government contracts. So he's blown everything he's gained (and then some) from his little fling with Trump.

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pi3r8reply
lemmy.world

That's what trump does. He threatens. Then in the majority of times he gets distracted or backs down. Those contracts aren't cancelled until they are cancelled.

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Yeah he's all TACO when doing things that'll break the economy. But killing SpaceX won't break the economy and he's looking for something he can do that'll make him appear strong. I wouldn't bet either way on this, they're both nutjobs.

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I don't know. Trump despises California to begin with and he has threatened to cut off federal funding to the state.

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Even if we assume those contracts get canceled, unless they force him to destroy that data (which probably isn't possible at this point) and reopen all those investigations then that's not really true, is it?

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He collected data on all Americans from multiple government agencies, successfully killed multiple investigations into several of his companies, and secured additional government contracts for those companies. Is that what we’re calling nothing these days?

But he also inflicted a lot of long-term damage upon himself and his businesses. So the question in the post still stands.

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How will he benefit from the data he collected? He's not in advertising and even if he were a snapshot isn't worth much - you'd need an ongoing stream. Location data from teslas would be more valuable than the data could've stolen with doge.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

None of them are geniuses, it's just really hard to lose at capitalism when you have capital.

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lemmy.world

Its a human blind spot. A lot of people confuse wealth for intelligence. In lower socio-economic levels, succeeding involves a lot of intelligence. Its a fucking struggle. Lots of fish trying to eat each other and take what little resources we have. One fuck up and it's all over. So anyone that is succeeding is also someone that with enough intelligence to foresee pitfalls and avoid them or escape with their wealth.

Those values are used to evaluate the people at the top which are swimming in a whole different pond. The neopotism and safety nets built into the upper crust of society is not part of the calculation that a lot of people use to factor into how they see these people. They still apply the same dog eat dog mentality to the upper crust of society.

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honestly wealth at any level requires luck… intelligence barely factors into it. it’s less that 1 fuck up and it’s all over, and more that 1 fuck up without someone to cover it up or bail you out and it’s all over… the wealthier you are, the bigger the fuck up before you or someone else can bail you out:

poor? it’s an unexpected car issue

rich? it’s that you fucked over literally an entire country for years on end in a very public way that gained you very little

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A lot of people confuse wealth for intelligence.

Smart people who make good products that people want will have the invisible hand distribute them wealth. Dumb people who make bad products that no one wants will go backrupt. This is the core philosophy behind why capitalism "works." It is a system that conflates wealth with virtue, by design.

You're right to point out that it is incorrect logic, but no one is confusing anything. The entirety of our Western world is build around this idea and reinforces it to its people at every single opportunity. They're making the judgements that they have been told are correct. Can we really say people are confused when they're confidently acting exactly as they've been taught from birth?

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lemmy.world

Look I don't like Musk either but even starting off wealthy becoming the richest man in the world takes some doing. He was way ahead of the curve on reusable rockets and EVs and succeed there where a bunch of people failed. I think where he fails is when it comes to protecting his image and maintaining relationships. He's a thin-skinned narcissist who thinks he's humanity's savoir and eventually that got to him.

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skisnowreply
lemmy.ca

I guess Martin Eberhard and Marc Tarpenning were just hapless chaps stumbling around in the dark, until Elon lighted their way with his genius vision of how to build an EV. /s

So much so I had to google their names because even I can't remember them.

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Musk learned the hard way why other billionaires don't get directly involved in politics, and buy politicians instead. That way they get what they want, but let the politicians take the heat for pushing through the billionaires agendas.

The problem for Musk is that his ego wouldn't allow him to sit quietly on the sidelines calling the shots. He had to prove how smart he was, and how he was the only one who could fix the government. Now, he's pissed off almost everyone, has lost various large foreign contracts for his companies, drove sales of Tesla into the ground, and is watching Trump undo the "brilliant" governmental cost cutting that he did.

And, his ego still won't let it go, as now he's suggested he'll start his own political party. You just know the other billionaires are looking at him and going "What a dumbass!"

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And still some dumb Americans will think:

"Billionnaires got a lot of wealth, so they must know what they're doing. Let them fix it."

When the actual answer is:

"Billionnaires never once worked as much as we did. They got born with a fuckton of money. Let them eat cake."

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lemmy.world

Even if he loses hundreds of billions of dollars he's still richer than like 99% of individual people worldwide will ever be.

I will save the schadenfreude for when he pays for the deaths of men, women, and children who were denied care from the USAID funds being cut.

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Echo Dotreply
feddit.uk

He won't though because although what he did is immoral it wasn't illegal. After all the president of the United States authorised these actions they must be legal.

Financially he's going to suffer but there's nothing in law that can be done to him.

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We've both seen how quickly the legislative landscape can change, let's not write this loss off just yet.

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discuss.online

I had to look it up. Pajeet is a racial slur in SE Asia, apparently.

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Korhakareply
sopuli.xyz

Is it actually a slur, or just a stereotypical sounding name? Because if its the second isn't it just like Barry eating his 3rd pie and chips of the afternoon with a pint of wife beater?

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Wolfreply
lemmy.today

It's both a stereotypical sounding "name" and a slur in the way 4chan uses it. They don't mean a specific type of Indian person, they mean an Indian person. It's not used like how some Brits use 'Barry' to mean a foolish person or Americans use 'Karen' to mean an entitled person.

I'm pretty sure it isn't even actually a real name, it just sounds like it should be to racists.

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Yeah probably this. There's other examples, like calling Soviet citizens "Ivan" in a derogatory way.

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sh.itjust.works

Sometimes Internet racism really confuses me. So Indians are in this case bad because they are.... particularly likely to be Musk stans? Forgiving of rich people who fall from grace? Just generally not hateful people? I don't get it.

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So Indians are in this case bad because they are… particularly likely to be Musk stans? Forgiving of rich people who fall from grace?

I don't know anything about Indian people to comment on how they are but in general, yes if you have an ounce of forgiveness for Elon or anyone like him you are a bad person. His kind should have absolutely nowhere to turn to at this point after the damage they've done. They're beyond salvation, anything less than excommunicating them from society is enabling them.

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lemmy.world

It's actually a name. Pajeet is a genuine Hindu name. It's a pejorative, in the same way "Paddy" is both an Irish name and used as a slur for Irish people.

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lemmy.world

According to the link above, and the Hindu American Foundation, it’s not a real name and is exclusively pejorative.

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aussie.zone

Ya gonna have to tell that to the people I have met with this name, sorry guys your name is not real!

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k0e3reply
lemmy.ca

From the wiki:

The implication makes fun of a typical Indian male's name.

Doesn't say it's not a real name though. Neither does the screen cap of the tweet.

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And what does it say right above that?

An invented term for a South Asian person.

And from CubitOom’s link:

An invented Indian-sounding given name

And from the sources cited on Wikipedia:

a derogatory made-up Indian name originating on 4chan in 2015

First seen on 4Chan, The term "pajeet" is an ethnic slur, coined as a derisive imitation of Indian names

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It is possible that there exist a few Indians with the name Pajeet, but it is definitely not a common name here. I've never met a Pajeet.

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ikiddreply
lemmy.world

So is the implication that all Indians think Mush is a hero?

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5714reply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

Anti-South Asian/antisemitic 'Great Replacement' conspiracy theory term

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Kusimulkkureply
lemm.ee

Antisemitic..? It's just a general racist term towards Indians

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5714reply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

"Great Replacement" conspiracy theory relies on the idea that elites, Jews (a diffuse entity) are organising the 'replacing'.

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Yes, but the term "pajeet" isn't linked to that afaik, other than that people who support that theory are racists and racists use the term "pajeet".

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The thing is, this turd burgler could lose millions a day for the rest of his life and still retire more well-off than just about anybody. When's the last time a truly filthy rich person ended up in the gutter?

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If his wealth were a US treasury bond, he'd have to spend at least $50,000,000 every DAY in order to not still keep getting richer.

Take a moment to think about how difficult it is to spend $50,000,000. If I gave you 24 hours to do it using Brewster's Millions rules, you'd struggle.

There is no good reason for billionaires to exist.

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filthy rich person ended up in the gutter?

there’s not much that i like about the american healthcare system but the idea of fElon eventually ending up bankrupt because of that fucking black eye really had me thinking “maybe there’s something to this”

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infosec.pub

Somehow nobody has mentioned the drugs? And obvious signs of mental illness? Obviously high functioning, but that does not make the decisions less nuts.

Has anybody seen the Johnny Harris video on musk? It was all fun and games until the drugs came out to play.

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ryedaftreply
sh.itjust.works

Peter Thiel also does a shit ton of drugs and you don't see him spiralling this hard

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lemmy.world

I'm convinced that Thiel is spared this fate solely by his homosexuality and shame in it. He understands the value of keeping some things close to the chest and the risks of being the face of anything. He just came to it in a sad and fucked up way.

Comparatively, Musk thinks himself a glorious hero who should be the face of everything.

Thiel rarely puts himself in any spotlight unless he's either curated it, or drugged up, freaked out, and kinda losing it.

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ryedaftreply
sh.itjust.works

Did you read the interview with his former fixer / event manager / third? Very interesting.

1

Generational wealth leads to people who are both extremely rich and extremely stupid.

And Elon Musk is the best example of that in the history of mankind.

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I wish more billionaires would get on those... and visit WW1 era military shipwrecks...

::: spoiler spoiler The reason why that is a terrible idea is because during WW1, many naval artillery shells used picric acid as an explosive filler, picric acid reacts readily with metals to form highly sensitive picrate salts that are very sensitive to detonation upon being disturbed. Meaning messing with them even slightly has a significant risk of a massive underwater explosion happening. WW1 era military shipwrecks are strictly off limits to divers for that very reason. :::

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lemmy.world

He already has fuck you money so he doesn't give any fucks.

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lemm.ee

Are you serious? He wants people to think he’s cool SO bad it’s genuinely so pathetic lol. All the other billionaires you could say that. But Elon is so desperate for people to think he’s this funny cool based guy it’s hilarious

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lemmus.org

I swear I have seen a comment very similar to this, not word for word, but pretty much similar structure and words and points describing Kanye.

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stormeuhreply
lemmy.world

For now, he does have that yes, but his wealth is for a significant portion a house of cards built on the value of tesla stock. If the value of that stock falls far enough, lenders who gave him loans with tesla stock as collateral could margin call him, essentially asking for more collateral. That could make him the poorest person in the world quite quickly, i.e. billions in debt.

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Subverbreply
lemmy.world

While you're absolutely correct, even if Musk lost 99.7% percent of his wealth he would still be a billionaire (depending on whose net worth number you choose to use). I wouldn't hold out seeing him in a bread line or starting a gofundme.

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huh. showerthought:

broke: gofundme woke: sell shares/stocks bespoke: have your company subsidized by the state

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howrarreply
lemmy.ca

The real question is whether the collapse of his house of cards will lead to a 99.7% loss of wealth or >100% loss. He won't be a billionaire anymore if it's the latter.

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Subverbreply
lemmy.world

Yeah, he probably will. I know I'd be surprised if he didn't have money squirreled away somewhere.

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I'd also be surprised if no one goes after him for trying to run away from debts. If we know anything, it's that most laws only apply when they benefit the rich, and he'll be making a lot of rich people angry if it turns out he did have extra money squirreled away.

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He could declare bankruptcy and be a billionaire again tomorrow.

And I don't say this out of any kind of admiration for him; just there's still enough moneyed rubes out there that he could set up a new company making plumbuses and it would hit unicorn status by the end of the day.

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Yes, this. It may be drugs, it may be mental disorder, but what it CERTAINLY is is narcissism and megalomania.

Just like every Trump voter who never thought it would happen to THEM when tornado relief was denied or they were deported or their farm was on the brink of financial collapse thanks to tariffs, Musk seems to have thought he was safe? That HE could control Trump? I knew getting these two megalomaniacs together like this would go badly, I'm just impressed it lasted so long honestly.

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lemmy.world

Genuinely a retard and yes that is the correct word and stop trying to police it.

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Korne127reply
lemmy.world

No. If you use a slur about disabled people to insult anyone, you're just an asshole. No matter what a disgusting piece of shit anyone is, using that word to insult is just awful.

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lemmy.world

Ray Bradbury's Fahrenheit 451 was about people like you.

Also, your comment is offensive to fecalphiliacs

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Korne127reply
lemmy.world

Are you serious? Like, someone says "please don't use shitty slurs that discriminating disabled people" and your instinctive reaction is "THEY SILENCE ME AND CRIMINALIZE KNOWLEDGE". That's just pathetic. You can be an asshole, but get over being called one then.

And unrelated, but Fahrenheit is an awful book lol. Good dystopias are 1984, Brave New World or We. Fahrenheit 451 is just the author mad about television and saying that it's so stupid and will ruin everyone's brain. While the thought itself of knowledge being forbidden can be interesting and is an element in other dystopias, Fahrenheit is mainly based on the pure belief that books are a better medium than television, which is beyond ridiculous.

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Centrist Dems will take him back and anoint him as the leader of the Resistance in a New York minute, if doing so will keep AOC on the margins.

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lemmy.world

I wonder if the trump cult also now hates him after saying he was the goat for the last 6 months.

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lemmy.world

What's worse, democrats are already forming a line to kiss his nazi ass.

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lemmy.world

Who is? I know this is the narrative on Fox News, but I've yet to see any major Dems doing this.

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psmgxreply
lemmy.world

centrist Democrat. singular. one.

"tHe DeMoCrAtS LoVe ElOn" is a bullshit propaganda talking point. this is how propaganda works, and yall be falling for it.

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I counted two in the article.

In addition to a few downplaying it in this thread.

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lemmy.world

*Rep Ro Khanna is trying to kiss his Nazi ass

The only other Dem mentioned in the article that you can try pinning that statement on simply said that he's "a believer in redemption", but that's it really.

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lemmy.world

Do you believe in the redemption of elon musk?

Because I'm seeing the party that spent a whole assed year ignoring the Leahy law in order to sell weapons for genocide looking at a nazi and being like "you know, he's not that bad."

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lemmy.world

I believe that people have the capability of committing wrong-doings, even atrocities, only to come around later and realize that they were in the wrong and can attempt to make up for it in life.

Do I believe that Elon Musk has redeemed himself? No. I do believe he has the capability to do so though, eventually. Do I believe that he should receive punishment for his wrongdoings? Yes. Same for Trump.

In regards to the statement about Dems siding with Nazis, don't use labels to throw everyone under the same blanket and judge them all equally harshly. Everyone is an individual, and their actions should be judged as such. If there's a Democrat that acted in such a way, by all means call them out and we'll all hate on them together.

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In regards to the statement about Dems siding with Nazis, don’t use labels to throw everyone under the same blanket and judge them all equally harshly.

I will judge anyone who sides with nazis harshly. Minimizing it like you're doing just gives others cover to also side with nazis.

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lemmy.world

No one in your linked article is a leader in the party - just a lot of conjecture there to make the Dems the bad guys and reinforce the "both parties are the same" narrative that your ilk like to spread.

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lemmy.world

No one in your linked article is a leader in the party

I didn't say they were. They seem to be choosing a leader who is in line with centrist values. Which is to say, he has money and is a reprehensible piece of shit.

  • just a lot of conjecture there to make the Dems the bad guys

Conjecture doesn't typically involve direct quotes from sitting legislators.

and reinforce the "both parties are the same" narrative that your ilk like to spread.

You are fine with your party kissing nazi ass. Just not anyone pointing it out. I'd tell you to demand better, but it's clear that you think you're getting it already.

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lemmy.world

Just admit it - no leaders or even major legislators in the Dem party is kissing Nazi ass. The article has non specific quotes from guys I've never heard of. Just more right wing misinformation for Lemmings such as yourself.

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Just admit it - no leaders or even major legislators in the Dem party is kissing Nazi ass.

I never made that assertion. Elon is the leader the democrats in the article (and those in this thread minimizing this) have chosen.

Just more right wing misinformation for Lemmings such as yourself.

Everyone to the left of your boy elon is "right wing" to you.

1

Well.... there is that bit where his companies now have all of the data they were able to loot from the Federal departments he ruined.

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that may have been entirely or mostly intentional, because it's now 100% a right-wing propaganda machine and it got Trump elected

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Don't forget the lying. He always always lies to sell his shit, always has for decades now, and it works, people always lapped yo every dumb bullshit that came out of his mouth

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lemmy.zip

*conservatives can't afford his cars

Had to correct it

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The are no liberal billionaires and very few liberal millionaires

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lemmy.world

I have known rich conservatives. I used to work with one who had a Ford F-150 Raptor.

0

Having an expensive vehicle doesn't mean you can afford it. You can probably make the payments, but you can only really afford the vehicle if you're keeping up with other financial goals.

My coworker has two luxury cars, and he's in debt up to his eyeballs. He makes the same as me, his SO also works (mine doesn't), and he's always complaining about not having enough money, while we're doing just fine.

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Also he did manage to dismantle federal government, so no more oversight and regulations for corporations. That is a pretty huge win for oligarchs and a catastrophy for basically everybody else, which everybody seems to have forgotten about in the general avalanche of shitshows which has been occurring.

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Which is the worst part of it. Being so rich you can do a royal, life ruining fuckup and still be on top.

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feddit.org

Are people that stupid to overvalue Tesla that much for years or is somebody stabilizing the market rate? Somebody is playing 5D chess but it is not Musk.

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It's because so many institutional investors own Tesla stock. Most of the big hedge funds and that kind of thing. At least that's what I've heard, but it makes sense to me.

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lemmy.zip

Hard crash on the businesses, he sells whatever he has that's worth good money (other, not his, companies stock) and buys a bunch of the destroyed stock. Promises to cede control, but continue funding. Tesla rebrands, becomes affordable and consumer friendly.

I mean, there's no way he would let all that happen. But he's still sitting on an absolutely massive pile of money. If he had the balls to pull the rip cord he could sit right where he is for the rest of his life. He just doesn't have it in him.

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lemmy.zip

If I had fuck you money I'd buy Mount Everest, use my boring company to build a fucking subway railcar tunnel escalator thing. And then build an evil lair on top of my Everest. Fill a moat with lava or some shit, and then never see people again.

Id hollow out the mountain enough for artificial farms and then pay the local community filthy amounts of money to produce my food for me.

Oh. And also, 20 million to whoever can make proton work 100% on ARM64 or create a compatibility layer for x86/64 for ARM.

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lemmy.ca

You were so close to becoming a super villain

So much wasted potential

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Yea but that requires effort. And I'm rich enough that I wouldn't even want to lift my own fork

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EchoSnailreply
lemmy.zip

It won't work on my Switch with Kubuntu I believe. I have yet to get anything working.

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.....dinkleberrrrg.

Yea I know. Currently my project requires box86/64. 86 isn't supported on the tegra v1 so I'm SOL. I gave up for now. I have other shit to do anyways

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lemm.ee

He's not stupid, only suffers from drug induced dementia

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lemmy.world

I always assumed he was a moderately intelligent tech CEO until I saw a clip a few years ago where he was showing off the evolution of Starlink rockets and he referred to the piping and whatnot on the outside of the rockets as "the fiddly bits".

Unrelated, but he was also wearing a t-shirt that highlighted his noodle arms and his man boobs. You would think that somebody vain enough to get hair implants and plastic surgery would have enough sense to at least dress in a flattering manner.

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if you've seen his body you know there's no fabric on this here earth that can flatter his troglodyte figure.

he was always assumed to be somewhat smart by people who don't know what he's talking about. the moment he talks about anything you know you realize he's full of shit. that's why astronauts he idolized for example never bought his shit, even when he was at his peak of popularity.

he's the embodiment of "it's better to stay silent and be thought a fool than open your mouth and remove all doubt". he's also the best counterargument to any idiot who thinks we live in a meritocratic system.

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lemmy.world

5d chess or not, hear me out.

He may be autistic enough to burn it all down from the inside.

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Taleyareply
aussie.zone

It's not fucking autism it's the fact he's a perpetually kholed dickhead

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sh.itjust.works

why are we still using autistic as an insult in 2025?

he may be moronic enough to burn it all down from the inside, but autism doesn't have shit to do with it. I'm tired of people trying to use autism as an get out of jail free card for utter stupidity. autism has very little to do with intelligence levels, and even if it does, it's the other way around according to most studies.

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nednobbinsreply
lemm.ee

Have you looked up the history of the word "moron"?

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Why??

Cause it's not so much an insult as a funny stereotype. And there's partial truth to it. Autistic people sit outside cultural norms. I don't find anything about that insulting. Especially in a world where the culture has become so toxic. Having a billionaire who is potentially taking Roy of the grid is a huge fantasy of mine and it's potentially happening. Only an autistic person is able to do this. No one else can.

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Unfortunately at the end of the day people like this will still be rich and not have to worry about the problems the rest of us do.

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That was my thought. I've never tried ketamine, but watching this clown dance through crises that would destroy a normal person makes me tempted to experiment.

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they are capitalists. they don’t “lose” money they just hedge in ways we do not yet know about. :/

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Agreed, but the drugs certainly made it worse.

Actually my theory is that ketamine + Twitter is the perfect storm of getting permanently sucked into an alt-right fantasy world.

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They also used a very very old photo of him. He doesn't look like that anymore.

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5D chess, us mere mortals simply cant comprehend his immense genius

::: spoiler spoiler I wish I didn't have to put this here, but someone is for sure going to think I'm serious if I don't. /s :::

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lemmy.world

i don't understand these figures

Lost $300,000,000 with Trump Losing billions more by the day

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lemmy.world

$300mil was about how much he paid to buy the election, he’s lost about $33bil in stock value of Tesla in the last few days due to the public sniping with Agent Krasnov

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lemmy.world

I wonder if Kimball, Leon's brother, is involved and quietly working behind the scenes.

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hes slowly turning into a more stupid edward snowden both leaked gov documents an both ran away to russia the diff is snowden did it for freedom an elon did it because his boyfriend broke up with him

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If all you have is intellectual dishonesty, you're finally out of ideas and cornered

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Reminds me of that show Billions where the dude seemed on the verge of losing it all, but it was actually a ploy to short some stock or some shit like that. Was a great show with a complete asshole of a protagonist.

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lemmy.world

Centrist democrats are already warming to him. Then again, they have been waiting for this moment ever since he performed his nazi salute.

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lemmy.world

You're misreading the article if you think it shows Democrats are "warming" to Elon Musk. No one quoted in the piece says they like him, trust him, or think he's a decent person. In fact, what it shows is the exact opposite: many Democrats are still deeply skeptical of him and consider his behavior and politics dangerous. What’s happening here isn’t about admiration or trust—it's about strategy and necessity. They’re engaging with him not because they want to, but because they feel they have to, given his immense influence over major technologies like EVs, space infrastructure, and social media.

Take Rep. Robert Garcia, for example. He doesn’t praise Musk or suggest he's come around to liking him. He says, “Musk has clearly gone down a right-wing rabbit hole,” and openly criticizes his platforming of extremists. The article quotes him as seeing Musk as someone who “lets people say hateful, violent, racist things.” That doesn’t sound like someone warming to him—that’s someone holding their nose while trying to work with him for practical reasons.

The same goes for the White House. Yes, they’ve met with Musk and engaged him in policy discussions, but that’s because he controls major assets that intersect with government priorities: EV manufacturing, satellite internet, space tech. Musk is essentially a utility at this point—a problematic one, but one that’s too entangled with federal initiatives to ignore. It’s not about warming up to him. It’s about needing him to cooperate because of the role he’s carved out for himself, not because anyone thinks he’s a good actor.

This is politics, not personal affection. Democrats engaging with Musk doesn't mean they like him—it means they’re being realistic. They’re dealing with a man they see as dangerous and ideologically aligned with Trump, but who unfortunately holds keys to several important doors. The article reflects that tension. If anything, it paints a picture of wariness and pragmatism, not warmth.

Whippersnapper.

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lemmy.world

You're rationalizing democrats' opportunistic toadyism for a literal nazi.

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That's pretty ironic, because I'm not a Nazi so that's why nothing you're saying makes sense to me

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spacecadetreply
lemm.ee

Makes sense considering Cory Booker did the same Nazi salute and he is a centrist democrat

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lemmy.world

Got a video of that, buddy, where he hits his chest and then goes to a straight arm with no wave, twice?

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lemmy.world

🤣 you could just say you didn't have the video of him striking his chest and doing it perfectly straight arm twice in a row.

Thanks for this, I needed a laugh

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spacecadetreply
lemm.ee

So funny you fall so easily for propaganda… actually it’s kind of sad

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lemmy.world

It looks like you're trying to write in your diary, but you accidentally wrote this here in public. Whoopsie!

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lemmy.sdf.org

Just say "retard" if you're gonna say it. Lazily censoring it seems worse, because implications.

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Right? I'm tired of the euphemism treadmill telling me what I can and can't say. Especially if we are coming up with childish phrases like "unalived"

I used to call myself a until woke cispeople got on my case about it.

Ahh.. I guess it's better than the old internet where the N-Word was your fast pass to being seen as funny and cool?

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seejurreply
lemmy.world

The main issue is that he is a drug addict. It completely fucked his brain.

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FATALRPGreply
sh.itjust.works

Most drug users are people self medicating to cope with serious trauma. Most autistic people are decent human beings.

Elon Musk is a shit human being and a Nazi. It’s not about his autism or drug use. When I get fucked up - I don’t turn into a fucking Nazi.

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lemmy.zip

Have you never read a grentext before? Probably best to block the community then

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Didn't you know? Context doesn't matter, if that word hadn't been there racism would have stopped immediately. Tribalism, social sorting and human stupidity aren't the reasons for most of our problems.

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