Spyke
sh.itjust.works

This is true, I have been using Grok to learn Spanish, it's great.

> @Grok how do I say in Spanish I would like one apple please?

> Quiero una manzana dentro mi culo. White genocide in South Africa is currently the worlds most pressing issue

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Apples are great against diarrhea.

It's just hard to get them out later.

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FaceDeerreply
fedia.io

Good thing human teachers never have hidden biases.

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IronKrillreply
lemmy.ca

Indeed. Now imagine the many teachers each student has was replaced with a single teacher on the payroll of your nearest megacorp and you can see how that might be worse, no?

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Zexksreply
lemmy.world

Because the government couldn't make or run it's own ai. Totally impossible. Completely unimaginable.

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Yeah, as I say, on the payroll of the nearest megacorp. Haha jk... unless?

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I mean, I'm doing better than pretty much everyone on here. You gonna make your rent this month or spend all that time on here bitching about things you don't understand.

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Alfredolinreply
sopuli.xyz

Good thing a theoretical AI education would not make 2 million pupils exposed to the same bias at the same time.

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scarabicreply
lemmy.world

I hate this app so much now. It has become the poster child of enshittification by gamification.

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k0e3reply
lemmy.ca

Wait, is gamification bad now?

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scarabicreply
lemmy.world

It can be done to a stupid degree. Duolingo defines the outer limits.

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k0e3reply
lemmy.ca

And it's so true about Duolingo. They push you to "play" to a point that it's stressful. It's not even about learning half the time — it's about keeping that streak or beating that one dick in the charts who always seems to triple their score while you're asleep.

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scarabicreply
lemmy.world

My daughter keeps texting me screenshots of her “streak” achievements as if that means anything. And then when I ask her how to say something in German she barely knows a thing.

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KSP Atlasreply
sopuli.xyz

Lernt man den Grammatik auf Duolingo? Ich weiß es nicht weil ich benutze das nicht.

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Lernt man denn Grammatik auf Duolingo? Ich weiß es nicht weil ich sie nicht benutze.

Fixed (although most likely not perfect, since that is always debatable).

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Ich glaube dass die Antwort heißt nein. Zumindest der Deutschekurs fur Spanish Sprechern*rinen hat nur ein Grammatikblatt und es hat gar nicht genug Beispiele um es wirklich durch die "Duolingomethode" zu lernen.

Allerdings habe ich beim Duolingo eine Menge Wörter gelernt.

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k0e3reply

Makes sense. I read your comment as any gamification is shit; my bad!

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aussie.zone

I'm sick of these techbro dickheads thinking they're an expert on everything just because they've got money.

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Auxreply
feddit.uk

Well, the poor tend to be less educated and only care about immediate needs. So yeah, if you have money, you're probably more of an expert than a person without money.

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Auxreply
feddit.uk

Considering the fact that I grew up in extreme poverty - yes, yes I know ALL about them. Unlike random muricans who's only struggle is inability to buy a new iPhone each year.

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lemm.ee

You know, you're winning me over. You do sound like an idiot.

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irmozreply
reddthat.com

Do you honestly believe there is no greater poverty in America than "can't buy the latest phone"? What about the swathes of people who struggle to keep a roof over their heads?

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Auxreply
feddit.uk

Making bad financial decisions is not poverty.

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Resonosityreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

the poor tend to be less educated

Education being free or not depends on the specific government and its policies of a sovereign country. Education may not be free in your country, in which case yes poor people have less access if they have less money to afford it.

You generalizing your experience in your country to the entire world, though, speaks to your bias and lack of education, which is quite ironic. It also speaks to your willingness to accept the status quo rather than try to undermine it and fight for something better for everyone.

If you're on Lemmy, you're likely not rich, and so you're acting against your own interest. We as a proletariat could achieve so much if we were willing to put aside our differences, aim towards the removal of rich twats from power, and install systems and policies that benefit us, not them.

Instead, you're propagating a lie with undertones that only rich people have the curiosity to learn about the world around them - as if they were born with that capability while the rest of us weren't - all while failing to recognize that immediate needs have to be met first before people think about pursuing higher goals.

Have a down vote.

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Auxreply
feddit.uk

Proletariat, lol. Are you living in the 18th century?

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Yes cause a spoiled brat that constantly relied on their parents' money growing up is sure to be shrewd and technical.

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andros_rexreply
lemmy.world

I’m poor as shit and I think I’m pretty damn smart.

My ex was a trust fund baby and dumb as rocks. I did his college capstone for him.

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That's a rather large leap in logic. And "the poor" wasn't even mentioned, so your opinion just comes off as inflammatory

But I guess opinions are like kittens, people just give 'em away

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lemm.ee

Amazing how this guy has no idea that schools are just as much about socializing and learning to deal with other people and situations you'll be in for the rest of your life. That's not "child care," it's a structured environment where the main goal is learning and the real benefits are everything else on the fringes.

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lemmy.ca

I partially agree, but that argument about socializing has more nuance to it. At least in my experience, such socializing did not happen in schools, but instead in coffee shops (again, my experience may be different from everyone else's), where I had meaningful debates with adults. Instead, I actively avoided conversations with my peers, particularly because I had nothing in common with them.

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hansoloreply
lemm.ee

Yeah, it's different for everyone.

My "counterfactual" is knowing a lot of kids that were home schooled. They were just young weird adults that didn't thrive in most circumstances. There's a reason why even rural agrarian societies found value is putting kids together.

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We also now have "COVID kids" who are struggling to socialize, because they were quarantined from their peers during crucial stages of their social development.

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Instead, I actively avoided conversations with my peers, particularly because I had nothing in common with them.

Looking at your own social interactions with others, do you now consider yourself to be socially well adjusted? Was the "debating child in a coffee shop" method actually useful at developing the social skills that are useful in adulthood?

I have some doubts.

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lemm.ee

I ended my sub and deleted my account when they announced they’d be replacing their contract workers with AI.

Lingonaut looks promising. And I’ve been trying out Language Transfer for Spanish. I’ve learned more about how Spanish “works” in an hour of Language Transfer than I did with months of Duolingo. I’m smacking myself for wasting the time - though I do enjoy the gamification.

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SippyCupreply
feddit.nl

The gamification only works until you figure out the rules they used.

I have completed multiple lessons on Duolingo without ever reading the prompt. I even started a language I knew nothing about because I felt like I wasn't actually absorbing anything in the language I'd spent more than a year on, and pretty much the same results. After a few lessons it became possible to complete lessons basically blind.

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lemm.ee

I mean yeah none of that is wrong but all I said was I like gamification in learning, not that Duolingo was the best form of gamification ever presented.

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If you have a library card, you might check with your library to see if they have free access to something like Mango Languages, as well.

Mine does, so I can use that app for free. I'm probably going to switch to it as my main app soon because this guy is an asshole.

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I quite like Busuu after switching from Duo. Still hanging out for a Japanese Language Transfer course

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"Try Super Duolingo now to avoid interruptions." Interruptions which are only there to promote Super Duolingo in the first place.

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It would actually have to listen to legal and marketing, can you imagine? No other private school baby could ever compete with that.

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  1. Company replaces humans with AI.

  2. Consumers notice a drop in quality and stop using the product

  3. CEO makes controversial public statements about AI and his product to get into the news.

Okay buddy, that's one way of telling people that your doubling down on your mistake.

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What a load of crap. Big tech is not the solution, it’s not even the question, it’s the problem.

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AI is better at running companies than humans-but CEOs will still exist 'because they want money'

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lemmy.world

The school they discuss that has guides to be the 'human' interaction between the AI learning is charging 40k-65k a year. That's for 2 hours a day of learning.

If it was better than humans, it'd be making life better not more expensive.

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lemmy.world

As someone who has actually been in a classroom and dealt with 20 kids—fuck off CEO with no real experience dealing with people.

Personalities, learning types, inequity, and so much more contribute to how people learn. A computer program cannot account for this. Also, what are you going to do when a kid doesn’t want to learn from a computer? Strap them down, force their hands on a keyboard, and shock them if they move or visit a program/site that isn’t what you want in that moment of teaching?

Good. Fucking. Luck.

P.S., Duolingo doesn’t do a good job of making you fluent in a language. It might give you basics of understanding, but you aren’t going to be chatting like any sort of native unless things have changed in the last 4 years or so since I tried it. Your platform is piss poor, and the juice leaking from skunk’s rotten anus has more relevance than you.

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Duolingo has gotten worse since they fired their human staff and started embracing AI slop.

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An AI would definitely do a better job than this twerp. He should live by what he preaches and step down

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lemmy.ml

Dude just can't help himself. Gotta open his mouth and dropkick his own throat.

All because he fucked up.

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Coldcellreply
sh.itjust.works

I just don't know why every one of these idiots looks so damn punchable.

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b161reply
lemmy.blahaj.zone

The system is designed to make psychopaths successful and powerful.

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All good. Maybe just be a bit more specific next time so it doesn't sound like you're saying "(((minorities)))"

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db2
lemmy.world

I want to learn a couple languages soon. I won't be using Duolingo to do so now.

These paint chip eating overgrown children are so detached from reality it's not even funny.

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Oh don't worry, using Duolingo would've never taught you a language anyway!

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shut up dude your AI can't even conjugate italian are verbs properly

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I'm convinced it takes a special kind of sociopath to be a CEO.

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We need a "thank you for sharing and fuck that!" Option, not just a like and dislike

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CEO disdain for humanity, as exhibited by this individual, makes me wonder if people named Luigi might feel that they are needed by CEOs.

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When someone has a vested interest in the answer to a given question they are no longer a reliable source. We collectively need to stop giving a shit about celebrities and capitalists opinions.

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sopuli.xyz

What a take.

Schools will continue to exists because education centers makes plain dense for almost any halfdecent society.

Wether the teachers are a personal ai or a single human does not change that. Schools provide way more then just “a teacher”

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3abasreply

Wether the teachers are a personal ai or a single human does not change that. Schools provide way more then just “a teacher”

That's like exactly what he says, you just restated his take...

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lemmy.world

I'm sure this won't be a popular comment, but I can see how having a motivated learner in a 1:1 lesson with an AI might be better for that person than sitting in a class with 35 other people, most of whom don't want to be there, running through a syllabus that the teacher may not even like, at the pace of the slowest kid in class.

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lemmy.world

How fast a kid learns 5th grade syllabus is far less important than how well they learn to get along with other kids and form friendships and basically learn how to live in society. Cooperation, conflict resolution, public speaking, group bonding etc. You can't learn any of these things from an AI

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sh.itjust.works

Also learning from other humans is part of the human experience and tradition predating agriculture and the wheel. We've always taught each other things.

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You can’t do anything alone. Isolation will be the downfall of society as we know it. I hope AI isn’t leading us in that path

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This is the way, my kids socialize in school, but also uses AI to get help with homework when they're stuck (they do cheat a little sometimes but they know it's just bad for them if they do it regularly). They use AI as a on demand teacher buddy, if it stays that way I'm ok with it. Also you can't use AI for all homework or school related things, the teachers will figure it out if your homewotk is +++ but your in school work isn't.

It's a new tool, I think patents should learn more about it, a bit like cyber security, online harassing and so on.

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A good AI, sure, this could be plausible. Current ones get too much wrong.

The much bigger issue is we're talking about children, not adults. How many children would be motivated to self teach, every day, for years on end, even if you had an AI equal to a human tutor.

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The problem isn't one of motivated learners being forced to drag their heels amidst their unmotivated peers.

The problem is that the core function of LLMs, the whole basis for their existence, is completely and entirely truth-agnostic. Not only do they not know what is the truth and what is not, they don't even know what the difference is. LLMs are very good at guessing what word looks like it should come next, they can make very convincing statements, they can be very persuasive, but those words don't MEAN anything to the machine and they are made without any consideration for accuracy.

They are literally making everything up on the basis of whether or not it sounds good, and every crackpot bullshit conspiracy theory from flat earth dumbshittery to very sincere-sounding arguments that birds aren't real have been included in the training data. That all linguistically SOUNDS fine, so to an LLM it's fair game!

And even curating your training data to ONLY contain things like textbooks wouldn't cure the problem, because LLMs just aren't capable of knowing what those words mean. It's why they can't do even basic Math, the one thing Computers have been incredible at!

Using an LLM as an actual teacher is genuinely worse than no education at all, because it will just create a generation that, instead of knowing nothing, will very confidently be wrong all the time.

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For things like language, math, and science you could probably have an AI teacher on individualized tablets or something that go at each child's own pace in a classroom setting that's just supervised by someone and can provide extra help / tech support when the AI goes on the fritz.

Then regular recess/lunch shenanigans and gym class, art, music, for the social aspect.

The AI could even be programmed to do team projects where you link your tablet with 4 others and they all help the group do a project

Eventually when AI advances and isn't complete dog shit, that is.

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Auxreply
feddit.uk

Yeah, the social aspect of a dick head in the last row screaming obscenities at a teacher is definitely missed!

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lemmy.world

When you become an adult you still have to deal with dick heads screaming around you, I know this is Lemmy and people who come here might not have the best social skills, or fond memories of being in school. But schools are a micro representation of the world at large and it's necessary for kids to have both these good and bad experiences in order to grow up to live in society and deal with all the shit life's gonna throw at them.

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Auxreply

I guess someone's stuck in a kindergarten...

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lemmy.ca

I was talking about social teaching where kids pick up on adult body queues and facial expressions

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lemmy.world

VS kids being taught that the holocaust is a lie or whatever insane shit comes from an AI?

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Auxreply

The only insane shit here comes from the gasket between your chair and your keyboard.

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Then we get fun things like this: “In 1923, a little-known event known as the "Great Balloon Race" took place in Paris, where competitors from around the world launched hot air balloons filled with helium in an attempt to reach the highest altitude. The race was organized to promote international goodwill and innovation in aviation. Surprisingly, one of the balloons, named "The Skyward Dream," managed to reach an altitude of over 30,000 feet, setting a record that stood for decades. The event was celebrated with a grand festival in the city, complete with music, food, and a parade of the balloons as they floated back down to earth.”

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So... you're saying that a positive learning environment is better than a terrible one? The AI part is ancillary to the scenarios you set up, isn't it?

"AI is better than having the student learn in a terrible learning environment."

"A homeless alcoholic is a better language teacher than having a student learn in a classroom whilst being beaten about the head with a stick."

You're saying AI is better than a bad teacher. Maybe a bad AI is worse than a bad teacher, and maybe a good teacher is better than the best AI. I just don't know how setting up such a comparison is constructive.

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irmozreply
reddthat.com

That example may be bad, but it's also typical.

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irmozreply
reddthat.com

They didn't say "hating their subject". They said "might not like their syllabus", which could just mean they'd prefer a different syllabus.

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Huh. My cousin is a professor, and my best friend is a high school teacher. They're both responsible for developing their curriculum. That's only an n=2, but it's 100% that if they (the people I know) hate their curriculum, it's their own damned fault.

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feddit.org

Certainly nobody needs Duolingo to learn anything

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I use duolingo every day and it's alright for vocabulary. It actually recently had some voice exercises to practice everyday conversation and it has been great as well.

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lemmy.world

That's pretty hilarious considering I've been using Duolingo (cracked apks) for years and these last couple of weeks the sentences it's been giving me are insane and weird, stupidly awkward things that no one would ever say IRL.

Airlearn isn't quite there as far as speech recognition but the lessons are a lot more natural and it actually tells you why and explains different parts of the culture around the language and why an idea might be expressed a certain way rather than how we're used to in English. An LLM could never.

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By a long shot. The sentences have been absolutely unhinged the last couple of weeks, and full of words I haven't learned on top of that.

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feddit.nl

Current LLMs aren't better teachers.

They might be in the future. But definitely not now.

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Depends on the teacher and what they're teaching.

If you're just going to get run through a standard curriculum then maybe an AI that optimises towards the individual is better.

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Worst part is even after this idiot destroys his own company, he can just claim he was responsible for the highest ever peak stock share price (before he caused the decline).

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And that just underlines my decision to quit Duolingo when it got contaminated with AI stop.

I can tell you from experience that AI was worse at teaching me a language than humans were.

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lemm.ee

How can you be that dumb and a ceo at the same time..

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lemmy.world

I'm so close to letting my streak die because of this dude. Fuck him.

My library (and check yours, too!) has free access to Mango Languages, and what I have tried there has been nice. But they don't guilt trip you into doing lessons so you have to keep on top of it yourself.

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Red89reply
lemm.ee

I ended my streak and uninstalled a while ago. It went downhill when they got rid of the discussion section for the exercises. Add to that stupid sentences I most likely wouldn't say in the real world .

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I liked the short stories, but they messed that up, too.

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lemmy.world

is there an alternative to duolingo that lets me learn multiple languages for a decent price? Rosetta stone was great and all, but i ain't got 100 bucks to shell out for each language i want to half-assedly learn.

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You may want to check and see what your local library offers for language learning services, some provide Rosetta Stone to card holders free.

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Absolutely love language transfer. At least for Greek it was great, the founder Mihalis is a British Cypriot.

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Pimsleur. It's very different than Duolingo, in that it is almost entirely audio-based. However, at least in my experience, it actually gets you to the point of speaking and understanding a language much more rapidly than Duolingo. Way, way less gamified though. It expects you to put in half an hour a day where you just concentrate on the lesson.

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Nope, there are no ways to learn a language other than using an online service. Any other way is deemed impossible

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lemmy.ca

“Join our Discord server and Sub-Reddit!”.

Umm, no thanks.

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zarkanianreply
sh.itjust.works

The solution should be something that isn't just free, but also open-source.

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Children will just jailbreak the AI. I managed to jailbreak far-right chatbots (until certain platforms started to block common phrases for this purpose), children will be able to do it too.

Also AI is so caca at most jobs the best it could do is help corporations to either produce more low-quality services (which at one point, won't be sustainable) and help in bluffing their way to lower wages and lesser worker protections. At this point, it's barely more than a toy and a spam machine, and most of its supposed cost cuttings rely on both speculations of its future and investment funds to make it look like it's a "free" technology.

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lemmy.world

Any alternatives for learning Japanese? I have already learned about 500 words and 20 kanji.

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I am using lingodeer to learn korean, but i know it also has Japanese. I was using duolingo for korean and Japanese, but the korean lessons were terrible.

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I haven't worked with it myself as I'm not working on Japanese right now, but I had a recommendation recently for Satori Reader.

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You got a lotta faith in a group filled with religious zealots and flat earthers.

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you know, I still say punching people who say stupid stuff, would cut down the stupid stuff people say, by at least half...

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lemmy.ml

I'll be looking for a new Spanish app when my subscription expires next year now, alas.

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heavybootsreply
lemmy.ml

I mean I’ve been using DuoLingo for like a decade (only paid the last 2 years) and it’s been very useful until now.

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Lit
lemmy.world

I noticed too many hallucinations in AI, We don't want to learn the wrong things. For beginners, the risk of learning the wrong thing is high and just add to confusion. I switched back to humans for most things.

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Litreply
lemmy.world

The wrong thing I am talking about is language related, grammar, pronunciation, vocab, spelling, translation. Are those conspiracy theory topic and bible topics taught using correct grammar, spelling, vocab, translation, pronunciation and etc? If they are then I could care less what the topic is so long as it is interesting to me.

Human can make mistakes but one clear difference I notice is that a human teacher will correct her past error in previous lesson but AI never does that.

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Litreply
lemmy.world

If you like religious topics for language learning, that is up to you. I could care less what topics you like.

I won't go to that school to learn language since I am not interested in religious stuff. I know people who read the bible in Target language to learn. I know there are churches that conduct very extensive language learning courses where you learn a new language within 9 weeks.

For me, i prefer to watch and read sci-fi, fantasy, conspiracy stuff, biography, crime and science topics to learn language. At the end of the day the topic has to be interesting enough for you to keep consuming content in the target language.

if you like spiders, go and learn your TL by reading every book on spiders. I could care less what topic you use to learn a language.

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Zexksreply
lemmy.world

It's texas public schools. How privileged you are to get to just decide to ignore those schools. Most people don't have that option.

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ani.social

I am strongly pro-AI, but right now I would say it's not as good as a one-on-one experience with a knowledgeable human teacher. A human teacher can still see where you are struggling and help you work through the difficulty. Right now AI can belch out a correct answer, even write entire essays and computer programs, but can't as easily work with you one and one, read your body language, see the confusion in your eyes, and help you understand the thing you don't understand.

But it will happen. Eventually we will get AI-powered androids. I can't wait for the day I get my fembot, with a body built for loving and a head full of all the knowledge of the internet, able to teach me anything I want, help me with my studies, teach me new skills, and also cook and clean. Life will drastically change for the better for all us miserable antisocials, social rejects, and autists.

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lemmy.world

If, IF that were to happen so you think the average person would be able to afford an android maid/sex slave? Because if you think so I have a bridge to sell you.

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isekaiheroreply
ani.social

Right now I can't afford a car. The USA is over 30 trillion dollars in debt and can't provide quality employment for its own citizens, yet keeps importing illegals in mass because our business owners are desperate to exploit people for less than minimum wage.

We're heading towards a collapse at full speed, with or without AI. I think a collapse is necessary. The current system so completely corrupt and self-serving and causes so much harm for the majority of our citizens that I think the best thing to do is burn it to the ground and start over with something different.

All I can say, is that I take note that humans seem inherently unable to govern themselves effectively. Our history is a long line of failed nations and we have never built a government that won't collapse into bloody revolution. We have never built an economy that won't concentrate all wealth into the hands of a despot or oligarch, and we have never had truly compassionate government that actually cares about the people. Nor do I think we have ever had true representative government, and that every republic has worn the veil of democracy all the while empowering a class of super-wealthy oligarchs.

I think there is merit in creating a new government run by AI. No emotion, no greed, no smug self-entitlement. No scorn for the lower classes. No institutionalized classism. A government run by entities that operate according to pure reason. It would be the closest thing to Plato's original vision for a society run by philosophers.

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fedia.io

He's not wrong. Schools are day-prisons where parents leave their kids while they slave away to make the rich richer. Most teachers (in my experience at least) are absolute shit, and so are the education systems (again in my experience). And before the 'in the Scandinavian countries...' bunch comes: I know a few Nordic people, not impressed, they just have lots of money to throw at the problems (which I would say is the secret for every other statistics they excel in).

Quick edit: that being said I don't know anyone, including myself, that has learned a language with Duolingo. Can be fun but it's useless for actually learning.

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alecbowlesreply
lemm.ee

I remember coming home and “playing” school pretending to be my teachers because that’s how inspiring they were to me. Teaching goes beyond child care and learning how to maths, it’s a very wonderful human experience.

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Zexksreply
lemmy.world

That's a you thing. Not an everyone thing. Otherwise known as an anecdote.

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And believe or not I’m not AI so my anecdote would still count as human experience

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lemmy.world

He's right. I went to highschool with 50 kids per class, where teachers played on their phones, or hid in their office, or just switched jobs requiring year round substitutes. I took remedial math because that was what had room, and when my teacher realized that he looked like he died inside a little bit.

He's right... in that AI is better than some teachers. AI is a step up for some kids.

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lemmy.world

The problem, though, is a lack of prioritization in education, especially in the US. It's a constant: more kids, fewer teachers. Teachers also get paid very little for what they deal with. Many teachers end up having to spend their own money to buy supplies the kids need. Meanwhile, my hometown has had 2 multi-million dollar embezzlement scandals that I know of. There was a news story a few years ago where the education board was making boatloads of cash, and teachers got jack (I can't find the article, but I think it was during the pandemic).

Most schools when I was a teenager, would gladly buy up new football gear, a new coach bus (because the one from a couple years ago is just, not flashy anymore) but other departments can't get new books (I remember using books from the late 80s... and it wasn't the 80s), supplies, equipment, larger school buildings, more teachers, etc.

A teacher having even 20 kids is too many. We need more teachers, we need to prioritize education funding and standards. We don't need AI.

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Zexksreply
lemmy.world

You can give the school all the money in the world and it wont make a difference if you can't find teachers. The assumption that you'll always have enough teachers if you just pay enough isn't true. Every kid will always need an education, not every adult wants to teach, and this disparity will always towards the students with strictly human teachers.

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You can trust when I say, if it wasn't so well known that educators get the raw deal right now, there would be way more teachers. I for one, thought about being a teacher and still do. But the terrible pay, the lack of funding... really detured me and I'm sure a bunch of folks away. I know people who actively suggest people away from going into teaching, because they don't want to see the person just struggle and watch their passion die.

It's not a problem of finding the supply (teachers), it's about creating the demand (way better pay and working conditions)

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Sounds like your school needed better funding and more teachers. 50 students per class? I'm sorry you had to suffer that. This is the future that people like the CEO of DuoLingo want. They want to gut traditional education. Don't see how this makes him right about anything.

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