Spyke
lemmy.world

Imagine having more money than anyone's ever had

Being stressed, depressed, drug addicted, and an actual Nazi.

Times like this I think about Enya. Yeah, Enya. Where's she been? In a fucking castle. With a fuck ton of kitties.

She made her millions and said "oh golly, I don't need to do much of anything anymore. And I quite like castles and kittens."

She didn't say "what can I do to make more people like me?" And then please the most hateful people on earth. How are these paths even a choice one has to ponder? Go fuck off in a castle full of cats.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

It's kinda crazy to me because let's say you do want to be the most beloved person on earth AND you have more money than anyone ever, you could do that?

Like at one point musk said if there was a plan to end world hunger in 6 billion dollars he would do it, and of course he didn't... But if he did, a small fraction of his infinite wealth would be gone, but people would have loved him.

If, Tesla actually produced a fully self-driving electric car that was better and cheaper than anything else, he'd have even more fans than he currently does.

If, he actually created high speed mass transit, instead of whatever the fucking "hyperloop" thing he made is.

He could have done probably all of this for the price of twitter, but nah instead he had to go be a nazi.

Doing like even half this list would make him beloved by the average person who isn't too interested in him. They'd see all the good he does and say "That's what a billionaire should be." and not do any digging. It's honestly batshit insane to me that someone can say "everyone hates me and it makes me sad but I'm not going to do anything about this because clearly they are the ones that are wrong."

Like how do you fuck it up so bad. The first time I heard of the guy I bought into that "elon musk is ironman" persona thing, and now he's just a crazed nazi I want nothing to do with.

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pivot_rootreply
lemmy.world

Narcissism, ego, and wealth create one hell of a combination.

He wants to be worshipped by the masses, but he's also the kind of person who needs to appear powerful and can't stand being in any position but first. He has to be the richest person while also being the most adored, and he isn't willing to sacrifice anything to achieve the latter.

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Cethinreply
lemmy.zip

This is the difference between the ultra-wealthy of the gilded age and today. Those of the gilded age built things with their wealth for the public, so they wouldn't turn against them. Today they think they're untouchable. They hoard their wealth and don't try to do anything with it.

Yet, the gilded age came to an end with regulations, because they were amassing too much wealth. They only had a small fraction of what the ultra-wealthy today have. Something needs to be done about them, and the government isn't taking action...

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According to Harvard Business School, in 1937 J. D. Rockefeller's net worth amounted to 1.5% of GDP. In today's wealth, that would amount to about $415.8 billion. And to be honest, I have more faith that the Rockefeller number represents an accurate representation of the real, if not necessarily liquid, wealth that he commanded, whereas rather more of the modern-day billionaires' wealth is smoke and mirrors based on their own bullshit evaluations of what their assets are theoretically worth.

It's still a contest between which dragon is lying on top of a bigger hoard of ill-gotten gold, but those gilded age fucks were really historically impressive.

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drzoidbergreply
lemmy.world

We really need to start dragging useless billionaires out on the streets and just stringing them up.

Mark Cuban is cool, he's doing billionaire stuff the right way. And he's never had any sexual assault allegations, as far as I know.

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He's still a billionaire though right? That billion dollars still belongs to him, right? As in, he has it, we don't. As long as he has a BILLION of the credits most of us struggle to find a thousand of per month to pay rent, he's not a good guy, he's a wealth hoarder like the rest of them.

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Like at one point musk said if there was a plan to end world hunger in 6 billion dollars he would do it, and of course he didn’t… But if he did, a small fraction of his infinite wealth would be gone, but people would have loved him.

Not just that, but an NGO said we could do it in that budget and he bought Twitter with the money instead

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midwest.social

For him it was his parents and South Africa. Drugs + environmental influence is the guaranteed way to create a monster.

Basically his entire childhood he understood that there are two classes of people: the people who earned something, and the other is the rest of us. People who look different, have to work, or talk funny.

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all that turned out to be scams, his charities, the hyperloop was meant to stop california from developing thier own fast rail system.

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Its because lying about doing it or considering it works out enough why actually do it

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While money would be important to end world hunger, there also needs to be the political will for that to happen. It’s just not there in many parts of the world. And just throwing money, especially the way musk does, won’t solve every problem. He wouldn’t be able to do it. So he doesn’t try. He just lies and says he could.

Bill Gates had been trying to eradicate malaria and while great strides have been made, it’s not gone. And what does he have for his efforts? Getting blamed for microchipping people and trying to take over the world. If it’s just an ego trip to do good for musk, what’s the point. You just become the enemy by doing good.

The movie a Bronx tale has the gangster asked if he’d rather be feared or respected. He say feared because respect goes away. That is the attitude of many who gain power it seems.

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Empricornreply
feddit.nl

Does anyone know if she needs someone to help care for the kitties...?

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If she adopts us both, I will feed you, brush you, trim your claws, etc!

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lemmy.world

We were just having a similar discussion, though not about Enya. My position was if I had a billion dollars, you know what I would do? I'd recreate Hogwarts Castle. I'm not even a huge Harry Potter fan and hate what's-her-name, but how cool would it be to live in a beautiful movie set house the size of a small town?

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Sorry babe, you're gonna have put the blindfold on, the warts on my hog are back

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Maggotyreply
lemmy.world

I'd make sure I had enough money to live comfortably, travel lots, etc. Then I would get busy trying to give the rest of it away.

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lemmings.world

If I had Musk money, I would commission lots of hentai media and bribe politicians to give more rights to everyone. No more porn bans in Texas, science-based textbooks in schools, term and age limits on SCOTUS, sex work is protected work, buy anime & cartoon IP to make it public domain, ect.

...if only.

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I'd be on a beach, half drunk, with a book. That's it. Y'all are crazy making more work for yourselves lol.

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unlike jk rowling using her wealth and fame to become a "terf", i think shes buddy buddy with musk too. she must be constantly depressed and stressed from that too. and many pointed out her books are actually low-key her prejudices. also family guy has pointed this issue out 2 different cutscenes too.

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Turns out, having obscene levels of wealth and power is really bad for your psyche.

We talk a lot about taxing billionaires for the good of the 99%, but it would do wonders for the well-being of the 1% as well.

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kinklesreply
sh.itjust.works

Not to defend Musk, but there are plenty of examples of money destroying someone’s life. I’m thinking primarily lottery winners. Just because one person successfully adjusted to it doesn’t mean it’s easy and everyone can.

Of course Musk is a special case where he ruins other people’s lives with his wealth but that’s not my point.

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Yeah that’s one if those truthy sayings that no one really looks into.

I completely agree the point of the lie is to convince poorer people that they aren’t good enough, smart enough to handle wealth.

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lemmy.world

Everyone knows 50%of statistics are made up.

This is 100% true half the time because the internet.

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This fact perfectly dismantles the idea of meritocracy, which is why the "lottery curse" lie is pushed by the wealthy. The lottery selects specifically for people who are prone to gambling and poor choices, and yet the majority do just fine with their winnings, because the truth is that wealth protects you from the consequences of your choices.

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I didn't expect to learn about Enya in this discussion. Thank you, kind sir!

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I hope Yanni is in a palace full of pups. And Rhys Fulber a temple full of snakes (I'm assuming he likes snakes).

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Yeah if I found myself with more money than I know what to do with I'd spend my time and energy volunteering and working on projects and spending lots of time with friends.

Hell, imagine if these losers went carnagie and started building libraries instead of trying to get them banned. Or maybe something bold like the "Elon Musk bullet train". They could st least try to be loved instead of whatever they're doing now.

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lemmy.world

He's doing it too himself, fuck off.

No one asked him to be a co-nazi. No one asked him to take over Twitter. No one asked him to play make-believe auto maker. No one is asking for his fucking biography. He's acting like everyone is pulling him in all these different directions, and no one wants him.

He is the world's richest fucking man. Fuck him. He could have the best doctors/therapy/drugs in the world, could travel the world and "find himself," maybe even do something worth writing about. But he chooses to be a completely waste of human flesh that will be nothing but a smear in history. That's his legacy. A shit smear on an already shit covered era. He's not helping anyone, not even his own kids, he is willfully putting his effort into being the biggest piece of shit.

Fuck him. Fuck his depression, fuck his addiction, fuck his stress, and fuck him. He's ruining my country and wants pity because it's stressing him out.

FUCK HIM

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lemmy.world

Also calling it stress is so fucking gross when normal people have to deal with soul crushing extisence of inadequate food, housing and life of wage slavery, and he's just upset cause his world domination plans makes people say mean things to him.

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I don't think you know what depression is. Little correlation with outside circumstances is one of the traits.

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lightnsfwreply
reddthat.com

Yeah. He could fuck off and never have to speak to another person or do anything he didn't want to do if he wanted with just a tiny fraction of his wealth. He doesn't have to be this way. He chose it. He's like a child breaking things for attention.

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lemmy.world

Not saying he deserves pitty or anything, but depression doesn't depend on outside things and events. He could do what you say and still be depressed. Have no problems in the world and still be depressed. Turn into a golden god of love and still be depressed. It's in the brain.

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lightnsfwreply
reddthat.com

So then fucking be depressed and leave the rest of us out of it. The fact that he's making it everyone else's problem is what makes him an asshole.

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kent_ehreply
lemmy.ca

If he is actually afflicted with clinical depression he should be seeking out competent medical assistance for his condition.

Even in America, he should be able to afford that.

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2ugly2livereply
lemmy.world

As a person who has had their fair share of "close calls," I'm calling it out because he's using it as an excuse and a reason for pity. I have severe depression. I do not go out of my way to make everyone else's life worse because I have depression. My family does not allow me to make their lives harder because I have depression. I'm still responsible for my actions. So fuck his depression specifically. But o do get what you're saying.

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frezikreply
midwest.social

People show you who they really are when they can do anything they want. Elon is failing at it much worse than someone who sits on the couch and does weed all day.

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lemmy.world

Their vices all run the same direction: They do the things that are forbidden to we poors. They get off on the power of getting away with the taboo and illegal. The only time they're held to account is if they fuck over one of their own. Epstein wasn't brought down because he was a pedo, he was taken down because he was blackmailing the rich. Madoff stole from the rich.

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I think it's less about sympathy and more about understanding what lead him to this point.

You can analyze why a "normal" person did monstrous things without shedding a tear for them. One day someone will make "Zone of Interest" about billionaires living in their bunkers, cleaning air filters from human ash.

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lemmy.world

It's not the most important reason by a long shot, but it's yet another reason why extreme wealth hoarding, aka billionaires and centimillionaires, should have been taxed out of existence and legislated from existing going forward:

Even they aren't happy, even sitting in the complete victory of their coup. They could have a dozen space station mansions each and they still wouldn't be satiated or satisfied. They can't be satisfied. That is their defining character deficit. Literally everybody loses so long as the avarice diseased capitalists remain in charge, even them. The intensity of their cringeworthy attempts at social media flexes betrays their intent and blasts us all with their screaming insecurities day in and day out.

They're mentally ill with an obsession/compulsion related disorder that they've manipulated civilization into enabling at literally every possible expense, including mass human murder and seriously risking human extinction for short term private profit.

They should be in mental health facilities receiving inpatient treatment for their extremely destructive antisocial behaviors for both their and everyone else's safety and wellbeing, too bad at least in the US they defunded mental healthcare into utter ruin (and education, and common infrastructure, etc) to cut their own taxes through their captured government.

The inmates are truly running the asylum our society.

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I've read a load of academic articles on psychopaths recently. Narcissism is linked to all sorts of terrible behaviours, and cos they don't accept they're wrong, they don't tend to change their behaviour even when they're hurting themselves

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athairmorreply
lemmy.world

I’m sure there are some that are happy but you never hear about them. A secure, well-adjusted individual with boat-loads of money doesn’t need to stir shit up. They can relax.

The insecure, maladjusted individuals will constantly be defending themselves against perceived threats despite having the means to offload all of that to paid professionals.

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The best evidence of this is the creator of Tumblr. He sold it and got a payout of like a hundred million dollars or something and completely disappeared from public life. He only ever appears in the news when he makes some big donation to a charity.

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A good way to think about it, how would society percieve them if they were hoarding anything else at this scale?

Imagine the guy having warehouses all over the world filled with toilet paper, private security around the compound, and campaign ads to reduce real estate taxes for storage units.

Or somebody having the largest lego collection in the world, constant buying out and threatening other collectors.

It’s a mental illness.

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How could they be happy? It's like a person that weighs a full ton feeling full. You don't find yourself in that position if you can possibly feel sated.

Like honestly the man probably needs to commit himself to a Buddhist monetary or something where he can learn to humble himself, live with himself, and learn to be sated. Without drastic internal change he will live a life of misery

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lemmy.world

Thats why power and management of a country should be spread thin, to avoid that corruption from a single point to affect the life of many

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SteveCCreply
lemmy.world

Nailed it! Just like in nature and agriculture, monocultures are vulnerable. One disease can wipe out an entire population. Same principal can be applied to almost anything.

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and farmers dependant on a single crop where its vulnerable to market/tariffs fluctations too.

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That's the exact thesis proposed in The Dictator's Handbook by Bueno de Mesquita and Smith for making a government good for its constituents. Coalition size is THE most important feature.

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alxmgreply
slrpnk.net

The ancient Roman understood this simple concept, but it somehow goes over so many modern people’s heads.

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Name someone more misunderstood historically than Brutus… The man was raised to know his family's place was king killing and when his friend chose to try to be a king he did what was required

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einlanderreply
lemmy.world

Going implies he's not there yet and there is much worse to come.

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futurology.today

OMG, Trump is already providing such an epic show, and Elon is clearly doing his part too. Are you saying that Elon could knock it up a notch? I thought 2020 was crazy, but apparently we aren't even in full-on crazy mode yet. This is already proving to be a popcorn heavy season, but this could only be the teaser trailer?

🍿🍿🍿

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popcorn is selling out all over the place, and leopards are obese now.

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Buffaloxreply
lemmy.world

I don't think 3 bags of popcorn is enough. Indeed 2020 was crazy, but the first 3 months of 2025 have been even crazier.
And yes Trump and Musk will most definitely both get worse.
But the trajectory for Musk is worse IMO, I commented about a year ago to my wife, that I wouldn't be surprised if Musk ends up committed to a psychiatric hospital. Trump is bad too, not in the same way. But his dementia is getting worse.

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Ledericasreply
lemm.ee

they are most toxic codependant couple, president elon, and AND personal assistant TRUMP.

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Can confirm. Three bags ran out so fast. We’re being showered with new twists and turns faster than you can count them.

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It's quite clear he has been getting steadily worse over the years, so I don't get the rationale of your comment.

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lemmy.blahaj.zone

ive been living with a combination of drugs depression and stress for most of my life and im not a megalomaniac asshole billionaire hellbent on destroying the country...

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Nazreply
sh.itjust.works

Yeah that's the key takeaway.

A billion dollars turns you into some kind of Duke, or Landed Noble.

Where you can like.. buy a small army, take over a country, that sort of thing.

Billionaires shouldn't exist.

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A study on this led to one of my most amusing facts; that npr accidentally radicalized me as an anarchist by introducing me to this concept

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I volunteer to test. Oh what a horrible and difficult thing I must do for science. Do you do direct deposit?

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"Guys would rather upend the world economy and peace in a ketamine bender than go to therapy"

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lemmy.world

Finding the right therapist is somewhere between doing job interviews and going on tinder dates with the intention of an LTR. It's hard work and it sucks and most people will not be the right person. I think people get the idea that therapists are this magical authority figure who represents "therapy" as a whole. There are so many styles of therapy to choose from and people with in those styles. They are humans with a skill to share, you need the right human with the right skill.

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lemmy.ca

Given how this douche canoe acts, and the damage he's done lately, I just hope he finds himself in a very slow, painful decline and maybe he'll snap while in the oval office with first lady Trump.

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manicluckyreply
lemmy.world

Can we get a fast painful decline? Minimize how much harm he does to... everyone?

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If he could decline in such a way that utterly destroys the United States empire, Israel, and Russia while causing minimal harm to the working class and oppressed minorities that would be great.

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No no no... we want a very RAPID decline to minimize the damage. If he were on his own, it'd be different but this is a time I'd rather minimize the suffering for everyone.

I'm still down for the painful one at least.

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lemmy.world

Just to pointlessly clarify, this is article is a paraphrasing of tweets by a journalist who calls himself a Musk biographer. The quoted journalist is not, as the possessive apostrophe in the headline implies, a biographer hired by Musk.

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Optionalreply
lemmy.world

I didn't realize it was the guy behind the Proof series, but I like his work. His book on Elon is apparently upcoming.

Some zippy quotes from that article include:

Musk “was sued for stealing the idea for Zip2—which fired him as soon as investors got involved” and “was going to run PayPal into the ground after his company merged with it—again he was fired.” He then “invested in Tesla when it was distressed and quickly began running it into the ground.”

Musk founded Zip2, described as “a sort of digital Yellowpages” by Belmont Hill School’s The Panel Online, with his brother. The outlet reported that in an attempt to impress investors in the company, Musk “created a large, fake casing around the Zip2 computer to make it seem like an extremely advanced supercomputer” — a move that worked, but investors who put $3 million into the company did so only after Musk agreed to step down so “someone more experienced to take his place.”

The code used by the program, which Musk taught himself, “was soon exposed to be so scrambled that a majority of the program had to be rewritten by more advanced programmers.”

Musk ultimately returned to the company as CEO and benefitted financially when it was sold to COMPAQ in 1999. He used the $22 million his 7% share brought in to an “internet bank” at X.com — the same company he merged with the founders of Paypal. He was named CEO after the merger in April 2000 but was removed from the position six months later.

SpaceX, Abramson continued, is Musk’s only “truly successful and novel company” and a chunk of its success was owed to President Obama, who Musk “successfully lobbied” after “Russians had laughed Musk out of Moscow.”

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lemmy.world

Oh man... So Obama not only roasted Trump so bad that the touchy little bastard ran for office, but he also handed Elon his only genuine W.

Talk about a monkey's paw president.

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I have watched that joke start off unfunny, get repurposed ironically, fade into sincerity and circle back to being unfunny, get exhumed in a funny way, die again, and now there's just this breccia of nuance that makes me feel weird and sad... But in a funny way.

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True, hence why the grammar used in the headline implied to me that these were the words of a biographer either hired, or at least sanctioned, by Musk himself. So I just wanted to point it out in case other people were having the same interpretation as me.

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Elon Musk could have been remembered as a cool tech guy. All he had to do was just keep running his companies and let the smart people working for him do the talking. Nobody would be the wiser that he didn’t know what he was talking about.

Instead, he let his ego get in the way of things and people know him for who he really is. I used to think he was pretty smart. After reading the things he writes, it became apparent that his companies thrive despite him, not because of him.

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lemmy.world

That guy's mental health reached rock bottom years ago. He has been digging ever since.

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athairmorreply
lemmy.world

Probably around middle school judging by his attitude and behavior. He hasn’t matured emotionally or intellectually since then.

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If you have enough wealth to be forever above consequences, you don’t ever need to endure the discomfort of growing

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12 by most peoples account, consider he uses language like that of a MSer. trumps brain turned to mush decades ago from adderall and cocaine.

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his brain can only function while its bathing in ketamine, dom perrignon, nad cocaine.

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lemmy.world

I expect the problem is that, when you get that rich, people stop caring about you, they start caring about your money. A string of women who just smash a kid out for him then fuck off. Kids who don't seem to want anything to do with him. Does he have anyone he actually considers a true friend? Probably not. He's just surrounded by bootlickers and yes men, and deep down he knows it. He's probably deeply lonely and paranoid.

Not that I care. He's also a cunt.

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If he wasn't a cunt then maybe I'd care but he makes it so easy to enjoy his own suffering.

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whoisearthreply
lemmy.ca

I said this long ago on Lemmy. I pity him. He has nothing of value.

If shit hit the fan I have many around me who love me and want me to succeed. I have 3 kids who rely on me and love me deeply. I have coworkers who love me. I have family who love me. I also love all these people back immensely.

What he has is stuff. Stuff leaves you cold and empty inside. He has no one who loves him. He's probably a cold, cruel and heartless person when he's alone and I bet he's alone a lot. No one loves him for who he is.

Seriously he's the richest man in the world and he's so small. He deserves our pity nothing more.

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MojoMcJojoreply
lemmy.world

I agree, except for the pity. I could no more pity him than I could a bloated parasite or leach feeding on my own children.

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whoisearthreply
lemmy.ca

Yeah I get it. To many people they are past the pity phase. I struggled myself putting that. He is a broken man tearing the world down because deep down he is hurt. Hurt people hurt people.

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pahlimurreply
lemmy.world

He has thought the whole rest of the world are NPC characters for his whole life. He is an unbelievable asshole that deserves zero pity. Don't tolerate those that don't tolerate others in its purest form.

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whoisearthreply
lemmy.ca

Don't mistake my pity with my wanting justice. There is no excuse for him being an insufferable asshole that has negatively impacted the lives of so many people.

I am simply stating that I understand him to be a small man and in that I have pity.

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I understand, but disagree. Pity is something reserved for those that are redeemable. Musk is one of the irredeemable at this point, too evil imo.

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Stuff leaves you cold and empty inside. He has no one who loves him.

This is very apparent when you look at his falling out with his daughter. She basically pointed all this out, and that he couldn't just make up for being a shitty dad for years and years by one time "Look, I sold all my stuff!" type gestures.

But "stuff" is literally all he knows, and so when he was called out on it, it seems to have absolutely broken him and now he's on this massive anti-trans crusade as a way of getting back at her.

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Yeah, but in order to get to such a position, you can't be a normal person with normal boundaries and interpersonal relationships. He was just born Elon and he will die Elon.

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Jaggedy for his pleasure. Better add diy reaming lube...mix hot pepper powder in lemon juice and vinegar. Mix with honey for a pasty texture that sticks.

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Goddam. That's an old, big, reamer. Looks like it's for hand reaming wood. Modern reamers for metal are very different.

The funny thing is, that's the perfect tool to ream a bunghole for a good fit for a plug.

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aceshighreply
lemmy.world

He’ll be replaced by another billionaire, with their own agenda.

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PNWKidreply
lemm.ee

That’s probably true but it would still be semi cathartic to see Musk off himself

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uieniareply
lemmy.world

Like any megalomanic narcissist he is not going to off himself before having taken as many people with him as possible.

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Narcissists actually have a pretty high suicide rate. Cluster B disorders are pretty brutal on the sufferers as well as those around them

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aceshighreply
lemmy.world

An example of what, being too lenient? Protesting will become illegal by then and you’ll be picking up cotton…

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That society can and will bully billionaires until they go insane and kill themselves.

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the only other one in the white house, not in public eye would be thiel.

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I thought that he always was an asshole and just dropped the facade, but him once being somewhat sane (as far as billionaires go) and going mad from stress and drug abuse seems like a plausible hypothesis, too. Either way, doesn't change that he needs to be stopped

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sh.itjust.works

He's a ketamine abuser, so it checks out.

Short-term side effects of ketamine use may include headache, dizziness, sleepiness, feeling strange or “loopy,” difficulty speaking, numbness, blurred vision, or nausea. Ketamine may also cause changes in blood pressure and heart rate.11

Studies show that unsupervised ketamine use may have serious health risks.1 These include respiratory depression, which is dangerously slow and shallow breathing. A NIDA-funded study found that problems related to ketamine use reported to poison control centers increased 81% from 2019-2021. The use of other drugs along with ketamine, especially opioids or GHB, another club drug, led to the most health problems, some of them life-threatening.12

Long-term, heavy ketamine use is associated with memory problems, depression, and anxiety.13 At high doses, ketamine may cause psychosis, a mental illness that causes a person to lose touch with reality. Frequent recreational ketamine use can lead to delusions that can last to up to one month after a person stops using it.14

Long-term use of ketamine may cause gastrointestinal problems, including abdominal pain sometimes called k-cramps5. Ketamine use can also cause ketamine-induced uropathy, a treatable but potentially serious condition that causes symptoms like those of a urinary tract infection.15,16

From NIDA.

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the 2nd to last paragraph is probably what he has. he is laso known alcohol drinker to, which would amplify the symptoms, plus a little cocaine because all that energy is explained with him being on twitter all day

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As someone that abused Ketamine for years, it is so easy to be so caught up with delusions (especially those of grandeur, or that are fed into by your environment) especially if abusing in tandem with other drugs that reinforce such delusions like Cocaine.

But those delusions still don't just manifest out of nothing, the stew that is Elon's brain has been continually cooking under these circumstances, but mine was under similar and I am no Nazi.

I think it is likely the money, subsequent power and unwillingness to take on board criticism that leads him to be surrounded by sycophants that reinforce his growing mental illness.

Having our false perceptions of reality be reinforced will cause loss of touch with reality over long enough time frames, especially when our actions are devoid of material consequences, and certain stimuli just expedite the process.

Though that isn't to say there isn't a huge correlation between brain damage and conservative belief, and that excessive use of drugs such as Alcohol, Cocaine and Cocoethanol, Nitrous Oxide, Alcohol, PCP, Meth and Ketamine causes significant brain damage.

Guess just yapping but I see ketamine abuse in this case as something that would have made him hugely more susceptible for sure despite maybe not being the sole cause, as over a similar abuse time frame I also struggled with distortions of reality and occasionally mania - especially if stressed and combining with cocaine.

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lemmy.ml

imagine ruining people's lives so you can have all the money, only for you to still be miserable. dont get me wrong im happy he is.

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lemmy.world

the parable of 'money can't buy you happiness' plays out over and over in capitalist societies, yet no one ever learns their lesson from it.

psychedelic drugs taught me so many important lessons so long ago. i don't know how these people (who claim to take the same drugs) never seem to 'get it'.

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lemmy.world

They did a study and money can buy happiness but it caps out after the point it allows you chances to travel and take stress free time off. Being poor literally shortens people's lives through misery.

So what we have is a man whom money will make as happy as he will ever get and remains miserable plunging people into a deficit of security through his actions. He's infectiously miserable and someone needs to quarantine him.

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This is why I advocate for a 'band of wealth', regarding the income and wealth of people. Everyone should get universal benefits that ensure survival and wellbeing, while money is for buying luxuries and lifestyle upgrades. Income and wealth obeys certain limits, to ensure no one obtains a level of money or resources beyond a certain point. It would be a bit arbitrary, but fiat money is already purely a thing based on belief. Might as well make a UBI economic system that leverages belief to make life better for every single person.

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yeah, i usually say that its not money buying happiness, its lack of money causing unhappiness.

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Someone who cares about him needs to take him off the internet permanently

there's your problem innit

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lemmy.world

Don’t forget this guy bragged a few years back about not sleeping or sleeping in his office. Let’s not discount how years of sleep deprivation has probably influenced his chaotic behavior.

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lemmy.org

I don't buy that shit for a second. He can't tell the truth if he wanted to. Back when he made these claims, overwatch just launched and he spend all day on twitter telling people he works 20 hours a day, plays a lot of overwatch, binges 6 different animes, and spends a lot of time with his family.

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hovercatreply
lemmy.blahaj.zone

spends a lot of time with his family.

Well, the rest of them are probably true, but we know this definitely isn't the case.

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Maybe he ought to do himself and us a favour and just… delete himself.

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Oh no please don't kill yourself live on X, that would own the liberals too hard

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Im so glad we have two mentally fit gentlemen working to bring down the entire system of U.S. government.

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"Combination Of Depression, Drugs And Stress"

Sounds like my life without billionaire part.

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lemmy.world

I do think he has stress, but it's self-induced. He's clearly mentally unwell. Honestly, makes me think of that BoJack Horseman episode where you hear his inner monologue throughout the show and it's just things comments directed at himself like, "you piece of shit.", "You're so fat", etc.

Not an excuse at all for his actions, but I do really think that's what's going on. He hates himself. Needs constant validation. But no amount of validation is going to soothe his inner monologue. So he's spiraling while his stress continues to grow.

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drug induced stress. cocaine making him stay up all day making hundreds of tweets every few days.

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That people will use him or hurt him for his wealth. It's almost like people are that desperate to have a tiny fraction of his money.... if only there was a solution.

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He could easily turn this around and become the hero of the story. If only he had a set of balls and thought of more people other than himself.

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hes been so buddy buddy with Jk rowling and jenner because of thier transphobia.

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its actually quite hard to od on ketamine, but not on cocaine.

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It’s devastating to see the toll fentanyl takes on hundreds of thousands of lives every year, destroying families and communities. Yet, it feels incredibly unfair to see someone like Elon Musk openly joke about or trivialize its use. While he may have the privilege to brush it off, so many others don’t have that luxury. It highlights the stark divide between those who face the real consequences of this crisis and those who seem untouched by it. Accountability and awareness matter, especially when it comes to something as serious as fentanyl.

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Why can't he just kill himself? Why does he need to bring the entire country down with him? Piece of shit.

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Another great display of the harm the patriarchy does to men. Asking for help when it comes to human emotions and mental health should be normalized. Dude has the power and money to bring us all down with him.

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lemmy.world

Elon? Going mad? How is that possible, the guy's been mad since the beginning. He's a narcicitic asshole who can't handle that not everyone loves him and believes his lies so he turns super evil. I know OD on ketamine is hard, but I hope he'll try, and if he succeeds, it will be his first accomplishment which is actually good for this world.

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lemm.ee

He definitely used to be better at acting normal, or at least was smart enough to stay out of the spotlight.

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lemmy.world

From the moment I've heard his name for the first time, I could clearly see he's a nascicistic scam artist. Nothing good can come from someone like that. He didn't hide anything, people were just too dumb to see. There's a shit load of red flags every time he speaks or does anything. Don't say he was better at hiding it, people were just too ignorant to see and now they try to find reasons to hide their own incompetence.

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lemm.ee

How often do you watch someone being interviewed or speaking in public? Most businesspeople I have no idea what they sound like, because I read my news rather than watch it.

I'm sure he came off as a nutter in interviews, but most people simply wouldn't have known.

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Not just in interviews, but also by his actions. Like building a hyperloop or the boring company, or his false claims about his past which became clear very early. His bold claims to control the stock market, several times. His impossible view of the near future, how he tries to oversell it to get investors before they find out he's a scam. His words didn't mean much to me in the beginning, he could just be really bad with PR, but his actions show what kind of person he is. And it happens to be the same as how he is in interviews. A fucking psycho who would do anything to get power, money and fame, no matter the cost or other's agony, suffering and/or death.

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he will probably OD on cocaine, or die from alcohol poisoning.

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In my opinion, he's long gone mad, just look at all this nonsense with Twitter and his "awesome" ideas.

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I did not see this published outside of India. But not sure why. It’s all based on Xitter.

American media is 50% terrified of criticizing him and losing access, and 50% complicit.

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thats why you hear sources from UK/EUROPE, and asia alot reporting on US, which is more likely to show more sides.

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lemmy.world

So exactly like Hitler was. Great. This isn't alarming at all.

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Better for Musk to be evil and in mental decline, than for him to be evil and stable. The latter implies that he would be around long enough to see his plans through.

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Oh please, I'd like to be part of that investigation. Not that I care who would've done it, only that is happened.

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lemmy.ca

Good. I hope it puts him in a grave

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think more likely, probably airplane crash since the FAA has been gutted, or at least crippled.

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Homeboys scams are coming to an end and those will destroy him, so he is trying to destroy America instead and has found useful greedy idiots to help.

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I know the perfect cure: a vacation to Mars on a Starship. It would remove any depression and drug addiction.

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DogPeePooreply
lemm.ee

Besides taking multiple meetings with Putin, campaigning for and funding Trump, purchasing Twitter to promote Russian propaganda, actually buying votes, calling a US Navy Captain with 25 years of service and now Senator Mark Kelly a traitor— for supporting our longstanding ally Ukraine; and now the wrecking ball destruction of the US government, no proof. Strong theorem however.

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and putin works for XI(consider they resource rights in russia.) the dragon controls the bear that controls the clowns

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Musk may well be going mad and I certainly hope he is. I hope his lack of recognition and watching his empire crumble is eating him up inside.

But Seth Abramson is not a reliable narrator let alone "biographer" whatever that means. He has a very long and storied history of embellishing facts, or placing too much weight on rumours and extrapolating way too much from them.

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lemmy.blahaj.zone

The person who provides his ketamine could be a fucking hero... All it would take is a teeny tiny bit of fentanyl...

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Maybe he just needs the right doctor.

Anybody know what Michael Jackson's old doctor is up to?

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lemmy.world

Can't he just do like normal depressed people and off himself?

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I'm team-going completely offline and taking rehab\therapy. I'm not convinced he'd drop his liquidated actives into charity or get involved some other stuff to undo the damage. But I do enjoy the prospects of such future when the most rich person on Earth unintentionally promotes mental health and at least stops his razor-swinging run around every institution.

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Someone who cares about him needs to take him off the internet permanently.

As a loyal subject to HRH King Charles III, I propose agent 007 for the job. For King and Country.

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The overwhelming majority of billionaires keep quiet and keep to themselves, doing everything they can to stay out of the limelight. Elon is someone who simply cannot shut up and will not stop attracting negative attention to himself.

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He's depressed so he decided to go full Dr.Evil I suppose...

Make everyone suffer along with him.

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I'd be a really great multi-billionaire. I just need someone to give me a few more billion dollars to prove it.

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Soon as he starts foaming at the mouth, call animal control to come and lop his head off for the rabies study

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He's been crazy for a very long time, this is nothing new. The only thing new is the amount of power he has now.

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Me too but I’m not taking everyone down with me. No one person should have that power.

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Sorry Seth.

Pretty sure no actually cares about him anymore. He is just like Trump, a vessel to 'win'.

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He has always been a mad grifter, our biggest problem and threat is that now he has more power and won't think think to use it.

Props to Americans who create these monsters, they rather have their balls in a vice than regulate anything.

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He's just trying to appear to be the victim so he can continue screwing everyone over and blaming them for it.

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If could go off the Internet, I'd probably do that, but the hope of finding something good, sometimes delivered upon, and the few good people bring me back to the good and the bad parts.

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I'm an accelerationist, when it comes to this situation. Let's get the super-villain phase over with and move on to final scene.

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I'd be going mad too if my intense Jermaine habit mad me pee blood.

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lemmy.world

Headline chops off the important bit:

As a Musk biographer, I told you all he was going mad—the cause being a combination of depression, stress, med misuse and illicit use of illegal drugs.

But here's an article from two months ago about it

https://www.msn.com/en-in/health/mindandbody/is-elon-musk-struggling-with-his-mental-health/ar-BB1rgzL7

Your article is about a post the guy made complaining that people didn't listen two months ago, even tho it was covered in the news...

You're who he's complaining about if you just now heard it.

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lemmy.world

Not hearing about it and not listening are two separate things.

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lemmy.world

I'm just completely over people not paying attention and acting like that's a valid excuse

The time to start paying attention was long ago, but at least start now. And lots of people still aren't paying attention

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sh.itjust.works

Ignoring things like this is how some people cope.

But I fear in the future these people just ignoring are going to be in the exact same boat as those "just following orders"

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That's not coping.

Coping is how you deal with something, ignoring it isn't dealing with it.

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