I use debian but I got enough mental health problems already... like somehow I cannot backport packages, gimp doesn't work on wayland, it puts me back to tty occasionally, et cetra.
I've never had to reinstall Arch! Never! It's probably the most stable system I've used. Additionally, I didn't update one for 3 years, and when I ran a system update it worked perfectly.
I have nightmares where the borrow checker is shouting at me incomprehensibly about the literal bugs and I shoot them with the clone laser and the borrow checker stops shouting for ten seconds, but now there are two bugs for each original bug and Tim Berners Lee floats by saying it's not very idiomatic and I shouldn't expect to get to work on time if I just keep stopping along the journey to spend all my time cloning the bugs.
Haha. On a more serious note, it gets better over time. I recommend keeping a really functional programming style in Rust and only opt out to imperative programming, when it just makes sense (e.g. to optimize, avoid allocs etc.).
I'd say Rust is currently my most productive programming language, because I mostly avoid the time-consuming debugging part due to the strictness.
In all fairness my mental health IS better since I've moved to Linux.
Turns out constant ads, AI crap I can't disable, the feeling of being spied on and other corporate tech-bro soul-sucking shenanigans is not great for one's mental health.
Funny enough my mental health has been improved by watching Star Trek. Whenever I notice myself doomscrolling at home I’ve started watching it instead. It’s something I’d always meant to watch and I’m enjoying the concept of people trying to live up to higher ideals
I would do that, but a lot of standup comedians have taken to ranting against people like me for daring to be offended when they insult us. I miss when I could just throw on any random standup comedy and have a good time without having to check if there’s a transphobic rant in it
I think you just described why being on social media is bad for our mental health. Or most of the internet now really. I've never had ads or AI shit in the tens of thousands of Windows deployments I've had to push out at companies. I also don't have them on my families personal machines.
It's a bad move by Microsoft to include that shit... But it isn't them that got my mental health this way. They are just falling into the well if everyone is shanking public mental health and making money off it .. I guess we have to as well otherwise our shareholders quite literally will sue us for not attempting to make them more money at every stage all of the time reguardless of the harm it could cause.
Turns out capitalism might not be good for our mental health..
I was talking to a friend of mine about this, very techy guy, has run Linux in the past etc. He said he just ran a de crapifier script on his current machine and carried on with his life.
I think people here assume everyone's a computer person. I know how to get windows on a pc for free and it works fine. If anything ever goes wrong I just re put windows on my pc again and bam it's new. I don't have 5000 terabytes of anime I'm afraid of losing that's separated across 20 different solid state drives. I stream shit or just re download it in like 720p so it's fast. Windows works fine. I promise you my life will not be affected in the slightest when some criminal makes off with my recall database lmfao.
Oh, no! If only I could open the local group policy editor and set the recall policy to disabled! If only I could also enable bitlocker on my drive to prevent and *criminal *from being able to get to data on my drive! Whoever is going to steal my laptop is going to simply take it to a pawn shop to sell it, they're not looking for the pictures of my cats anyways.
He's too far gone to be reasoned with, Recall is going to collect all his passwords and a bad evil hacker is going to remote access his computer and steal them.
And of actual wizards, thank you very much. And none of this is accidental - effeminate punk nerds are good company, and people who look like wizards.. ..help prevent assassinations.
I tried using Debian 12 instead of Arch. I ended up installing my apps with the Nix package manager. Debian provides Firefox ESR and an old version of NeoVim. I didn't want to add more repositories to apt, as I have had some bad experiences in the past with conflicts in backports packages.
It just pisses me off that people told me for years to switch to Linux and when I finally did, it wasn't good enough for a lot of them because I wasn't using the right flavor of Linux in their view.
But yeah, Mint is fine for my needs- a web browser and a handful of applications- and I'm going to stick with it.
It’s the hobbyist issue. “You don’t [hobby]‽ Learn it!” Followed by “Do more [complicated/expensive/expert] version.”
I’m really glad I switched, but I’m a casual. I shouldn’t’ve taken the die hards into account when switching. You don’t need or want to learn an instrument on the most expensive version. You don’t need or want a high end carbon fiber bike to get into shape and do grocery runs. And you don’t need or want to learn on arch unless you’re certain you want to spend a lot of time learning.
In the past 5ish years linux has entered viability as an “I just need a computer and this seems like it might be better for my needs/wants”. We should trust them about as much as the people saying to drop thousands of dollars on a top of the line bicycle for groceries.
I can relate. if you let people tell you what you should do, you will never feel satisfied because there is no consensus. People are addicted to pointing out negatives and telling others what they should be doing. I am an arch user because of imagined people telling me I should.
I realize now I that this has impacted my life in many ways. I am working to uncover the difference between what I want, and what I think i should do because of what my brain thinks people expect of me.
Fedora was actually the last version of Linux I used, back in high school on my old HP e-Vectra. Fedora Core 4. What made you pick Fedora? I'm going to be switching to Linux before Win 10 is end of life, and there are so many more options than there were in the early 2000's.
Fedora is a very solid, no nonsense distro. It gives you a vanilla Linux experience, with sane defaults out of the box. You get major updates every 6 month shipping newer version of the core stuff (kernel, desktop environment, etc). The Fedora community is dedicated to deliver a reliable OS and tests a lot before shipping updates.
It's my favorite desktop/laptop distro for many years.
However, there are a couple a pitfalls to avoid. If you go for it, follow some beginners guide to get you sorted out with things like codecs and proprietary drivers. E.g: Things to do after installing Fedora 40 - itsfoss.com I would definitely recommend to do steps 2, 3, 4 and 5 from this guide.
It's useful if your mental health issues are caused by Microsoft. For example, if I ever have to go through another license audit, I may have a psychotic break.
My company did (via dell) for employee workstations. Microsoft puts you though a site audit if you have anything they ever made. And if you have some products you also end up paying prices for things they didn't make. "You have network connect phones on the same vlan as a windows server? Here's a license for each phone, that'll be $8000 please. Now lets talk about all your printers..."
Linux has helped me rediscover my love for computers. And the many small and larger hobby projects I can now embark on because of it do in fact help with my mental health.
Same for me..I'm a totally different person because I found Linux..If I had found it earlier maybe I would pursuit an IT career but I'm still glad to have a hobby that fulfill my hunger for knowledge and I have a lot of fun tinkering and playing with Linux
But one of those is a community of people banded together for mutual aid to protect their basic rights and the other....oh....I see what you did there.
Does this refer to the overall Lemmy meta or was there a specific "sucks your mum died; maybe it was from the shame of you using Adobe products" moment?
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX. Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called “Linux”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project. There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called “Linux” distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
No, Richard, it's 'Linux', not 'GNU/Linux'. The most important contributions that the FSF made to Linux were the creation of the GPL and the GCC compiler. Those are fine and inspired products. GCC is a monumental achievement and has earned you, RMS, and the Free Software Foundation countless kudos and much appreciation. Following are some reasons for you to mull over, including some already answered in your FAQ. One guy, Linus Torvalds, used GCC to make his operating system (yes, Linux is an OS -- more on this later). He named it 'Linux' with a little help from his friends. Why doesn't he call it GNU/Linux? Because he wrote it, with more help from his friends, not you. You named your stuff, I named my stuff -- including the software I wrote using GCC -- and Linus named his stuff. The proper name is Linux because Linus Torvalds says so. Linus has spoken. Accept his authority. To do otherwise is to become a nag. You don't want to be known as a nag, do you? (An operating system) != (a distribution). Linux is an operating system. By my definition, an operating system is that software which provides and limits access to hardware resources on a computer. That definition applies where-ever you see Linux in use. However, Linux is usually distributed with a collection of utilities and applications to make it easily configurable as a desktop system, a server, a development box, or a graphics workstation, or whatever the user needs. In such a configuration, we have a Linux (based) distribution. Therein lies your strongest argument for the unwieldy title 'GNU/Linux' (when said bundled software is largely from the FSF). Go bug the distribution makers on that one. Take your beef to Red Hat, Mandrake, and Slackware. At least there you have an argument. Linux alone is an operating system that can be used in various applications without any GNU software whatsoever. Embedded applications come to mind as an obvious example. Next, even if we limit the GNU/Linux title to the GNU-based Linux distributions, we run into another obvious problem. XFree86 may well be more important to a particular Linux installation than the sum of all the GNU contributions. More properly, shouldn't the distribution be called XFree86/Linux? Or, at a minimum, XFree86/GNU/Linux? Of course, it would be rather arbitrary to draw the line there when many other fine contributions go unlisted. Yes, I know you've heard this one before. Get used to it. You'll keep hearing it until you can cleanly counter it. You seem to like the lines-of-code metric. There are many lines of GNU code in a typical Linux distribution. You seem to suggest that (more LOC) == (more important). However, I submit to you that raw LOC numbers do not directly correlate with importance. I would suggest that clock cycles spent on code is a better metric. For example, if my system spends 90% of its time executing XFree86 code, XFree86 is probably the single most important collection of code on my system. Even if I loaded ten times as many lines of useless bloatware on my system and I never executed that bloatware, it certainly isn't more important code than XFree86. Obviously, this metric isn't perfect either, but LOC really, really sucks. Please refrain from using it ever again in supporting any argument. Last, I'd like to point out that we Linux and GNU users shouldn't be fighting among ourselves over naming other people's software. But what the heck, I'm in a bad mood now. I think I'm feeling sufficiently obnoxious to make the point that GCC is so very famous and, yes, so very useful only because Linux was developed. In a show of proper respect and gratitude, shouldn't you and everyone refer to GCC as 'the Linux compiler'? Or at least, 'Linux GCC'? Seriously, where would your masterpiece be without Linux? Languishing with the HURD? If there is a moral buried in this rant, maybe it is this: Be grateful for your abilities and your incredible success and your considerable fame. Continue to use that success and fame for good, not evil. Also, be especially grateful for Linux' huge contribution to that success. You, RMS, the Free Software Foundation, and GNU software have reached their current high profiles largely on the back of Linux. You have changed the world. Now, go forth and don't be a nag.
My knees were busted too. Took me a while to realize I was overtraining at the beginning. The ramp up to 5k took me 10 weeks when it should have taken 8 as I was all sorts of busted up after thinking I could just complete the goal early. I was wrong. Slow and steady won that race and every race after that in my experience. Injured myself a few more times on the way to 10k and again on the way to 21.
I seem to have leveled out so next year's goal is 42.2 for a full marathon distance.
Because they’re NORMAL. Only the fanatics force Linux into every conversation possible. The normal ones just read the insane comments and roll their eyes. They know better than to get into an online argument with the obsessed.
Whenever someone tells me about the problem they're having on Windows (which I haven't used on my computer in years) or any Apple OS I explain how I would fix it Linux if I don't happen to know how on their OS. If the Linux way is easier I also usually give it as a comparison.
I only really do this with people who I know could easily get Linux working and people already interested in Linux.
...or mint. Mint is good. It's based on Ubuntu, but greener and less commercial. Also less orange. And it'll feel moderately familiar without being even slightly the same.
I see a lot of the "even once you pick a Linux distro you get yelled at for using the wrong one" and like I just haven't seen that here?
Lemmy is by far the chilliest place of Linux users I've ever fucking seen. Even when I posted an issue on the Linux mint forum I got fucking told "well you used XFCE, there's your issue" despite it being the better choice for that system
We absolutely will pressure people to try it, because we're a cult. Meetings on Thursdays at 9PM for my local chapter
No! Not this Linux. My Linux is better because i can install the squabblesquanks myself and the doodledot UX is just more like in Hatted-Archer-Buntu 2.374. that one was the best OS ever made, but they messed it up with release 2.4
For what it's worth the seizures and the Linux started about the same time it's just both have gotten SIGNIFICANTLY worse lately. Computer's running great, hate waking up in the ER though.
Well yeah. I had all sorts of mental health problems I was struggling to deal with, but now I'm struggling to make the perfect desktop configuration instead.
It encourages self-reliance and fosters a sense of control. Sure everything in our lives is increasingly forced on us by corporations run by out of touch narcissists, but there's at least one way we still can have control of our own.
Yes! then you can have other mental health problems to distract from your existing ones.
For best results, try Gentoo.
I use Arch btw. Got the sexy socks to prove it.
I use arch in my boxers. Usually haven't made it to socks, but if I had arch sock you better believe they'd be sexy. I use arch btw.
Sock pics or it didn't happen
proof?
The proof that he uses Arch is that he told you about it. Arch user confirmed.
Was more interested in the sexy sock pic tho
Not on this profile daddy.
Where do I get these socks? Wait! Did I just fall for a drop-ship scam?
Shadowsocks is sexy.
Arch users are the vegans of the Linux world
I heard very desperate people also use Linux From Scratch. Might help. Might induce neurosis.
I did that once, then went to install a package manager, and realized I was just basically building Arch, so I deleted the VM.
I use debian but I got enough mental health problems already... like somehow I cannot backport packages, gimp doesn't work on wayland, it puts me back to tty occasionally, et cetra.
I love it though
Ouch. It works for me on Debian 12 and Wayland 47.
I like Krita way better, anyway, now, though.
Yes brother, may they be blessed with the stage 0 tarball.
Blessings for hours and days.
Gentoo is for everypony!
Frustration is not a mental problem, it's a perfectly normal response
Uh huh, uh huh, and what about obsessiveness?
Use and maintain lfs/blfs setup for peak misery
I use Arch, BTW.
If I could give awards I'd be doing so on this comment. Absolute gold. 🥇
I use Gentoo, that distro is rock solid and easy to use.
And I build my own kernel. It's really not that hard.
Can't focus on mental problems if you're too busy reinstalling arch.
Damn you're right...I should install arch
My brother used to endlessly recompile Gentoo. I like just watching the terminal scrolling. Hmm, maybe I need a gentoo-compiling-simulator…
Hey guys, what distro do you use?
I've never had to reinstall Arch! Never! It's probably the most stable system I've used. Additionally, I didn't update one for 3 years, and when I ran a system update it worked perfectly.
just set up shell scripts to help yourself reinstall arch
I'm about to need some therapy with the computer problems I'm dealing with, I tell you what.
Or you could just lean into your mental health issues and try TempleOS.
Holy C is best C
I used to be all fucked up on drugs, now I am all fucked up on Linux.
Hooked on Linux worked for me!
Haven't got time to do drugs now that I'm using Arch.
But have you heard of NixOS? In case you still have time left...
Psst... Have you heard of Rust yet?
I have nightmares where the borrow checker is shouting at me incomprehensibly about the literal bugs and I shoot them with the clone laser and the borrow checker stops shouting for ten seconds, but now there are two bugs for each original bug and Tim Berners Lee floats by saying it's not very idiomatic and I shouldn't expect to get to work on time if I just keep stopping along the journey to spend all my time cloning the bugs.
Haha. On a more serious note, it gets better over time. I recommend keeping a really functional programming style in Rust and only opt out to imperative programming, when it just makes sense (e.g. to optimize, avoid allocs etc.). I'd say Rust is currently my most productive programming language, because I mostly avoid the time-consuming debugging part due to the strictness.
Thanks for the encouragement, kind fellow former redditor.
This is 100% true
Please leave reddit comments on reddit where they belong.
No-no—he’s out of line, but he’s right…
Even Reddit has rules against low effort comments in lieu of upvotes. They don't enforce them, but they have it as a rule.
I don't care that they were right about their "this"-style comment. I care that they thought I should read that instead of someone else's comment.
It's all about the signal:noise ratio.
shocking: users of open-source reddit alternative like open-source things
There's a fine line between liking something, and obsessing over it to the point you're evangelizing strangers against their wishes.
evangelizing? Evangelizing!? EVANGELIZING!?!?!?!
Yeah that's fair, carry on.:-)
Every church needs their evangelists and missionaries. And the Church of Tux is no different or better than the churches that have gone before.
It's a people thing.
You mean the people commenting on the Linux communities?
Not much "against their wishes" if they keep looking there.
Yeah but what if your option is objectively better even if not anyone has your exact usage?
refrains real hard from proselytizing
Can I interest you in the word of our lord and savior Dick Stallman?
Tell that to chromium
You know what, this is the first time I realized this even though it should be obvious. It makes so much more sense now.
Okay but have you considered
Was this an official thing?
What do you mean Was? Ms. Cirus still uses it.
There’s hardware and everything.
I googled my symptoms and it says here I have "compatibility issues".
In all fairness my mental health IS better since I've moved to Linux.
Turns out constant ads, AI crap I can't disable, the feeling of being spied on and other corporate tech-bro soul-sucking shenanigans is not great for one's mental health.
Funny enough my mental health has been improved by watching Star Trek. Whenever I notice myself doomscrolling at home I’ve started watching it instead. It’s something I’d always meant to watch and I’m enjoying the concept of people trying to live up to higher ideals
More people should figure this out. Star Trek is essential to a healthy media diet.
I also recommend a regular dose of stand-up comedy.
I would do that, but a lot of standup comedians have taken to ranting against people like me for daring to be offended when they insult us. I miss when I could just throw on any random standup comedy and have a good time without having to check if there’s a transphobic rant in it
Yeah.
Annecdotaly, Dropout.tv has a good number of LGBTQ employees, seems conscious not to shit on people, and has a growing library of stand up.
I think you just described why being on social media is bad for our mental health. Or most of the internet now really. I've never had ads or AI shit in the tens of thousands of Windows deployments I've had to push out at companies. I also don't have them on my families personal machines.
It's a bad move by Microsoft to include that shit... But it isn't them that got my mental health this way. They are just falling into the well if everyone is shanking public mental health and making money off it .. I guess we have to as well otherwise our shareholders quite literally will sue us for not attempting to make them more money at every stage all of the time reguardless of the harm it could cause.
Turns out capitalism might not be good for our mental health..
I feel you're vastly overstating how bad Windows is, to be honest.
Although I am still running 10.
Yeah fr I've been on windows 10 for years. It works fine. I don't have ai or ads everywhere.
There are start menu ads in windows 10.
Not in mine.
mildly annoying at first but can be turned off in the settings easily
Fair enough but I don't think there should be any ads in an operating system I paid for.
I don't use the start menu.
I was talking to a friend of mine about this, very techy guy, has run Linux in the past etc. He said he just ran a de crapifier script on his current machine and carried on with his life.
My recall what now?
I think people here assume everyone's a computer person. I know how to get windows on a pc for free and it works fine. If anything ever goes wrong I just re put windows on my pc again and bam it's new. I don't have 5000 terabytes of anime I'm afraid of losing that's separated across 20 different solid state drives. I stream shit or just re download it in like 720p so it's fast. Windows works fine. I promise you my life will not be affected in the slightest when some criminal makes off with my recall database lmfao.
Recall is a database Microsoft (wants to) build that records the screen every moment you use your computer (yes, including the embarrassing stuff).
It does this to better help you with suggestions.
It's going to end a lot of relationships in a very graphic pornographic ways, I expect.
But a few people will be delightfully (and graphically) surprised that their partner is also into their kink.
But most importantly, all data that gets stored eventually gets breached to someone who shouldn't have it.
So we expect to hear a lot more about (and experience a lot more) blackmail (alongside ransomware and financial crimes) in the next ten years.
Oh, no! If only I could open the local group policy editor and set the recall policy to disabled! If only I could also enable bitlocker on my drive to prevent and *criminal *from being able to get to data on my drive! Whoever is going to steal my laptop is going to simply take it to a pawn shop to sell it, they're not looking for the pictures of my cats anyways.
He's too far gone to be reasoned with, Recall is going to collect all his passwords and a bad evil hacker is going to remote access his computer and steal them.
I can feel the spittle from here.
I'm going to be honest with you, this is pretty tinfoil hat.
You legitimately need help.
Isn't that Windows?
Those are legs
Technically the truth.
I thought that was the - clever - point to make. :P
Can confirm :3
Linux is the operating system of the effeminate punk nerd. Also of the dude who looks and talks like a wizard
And of actual wizards, thank you very much. And none of this is accidental - effeminate punk nerds are good company, and people who look like wizards.. ..help prevent assassinations.
It's not even over when you switch to Linux as I found out.
"You're not using Arch? What's wrong with you?"
"Mint is for idiots who don't understand Linux."
Etc.
I can confirm. I use Mint and I don't understand it.
I jumped into Garuda headfirst. Whenever I get around to hopping I’ll probably pick something Debian based. There’s more support
I tried using Debian 12 instead of Arch. I ended up installing my apps with the Nix package manager. Debian provides Firefox ESR and an old version of NeoVim. I didn't want to add more repositories to apt, as I have had some bad experiences in the past with conflicts in backports packages.
Eh, fuck ‘em. I’ve been riding my Fedora install for nearly 3 years. Never distro hopped. Never found an issue with it.
It just pisses me off that people told me for years to switch to Linux and when I finally did, it wasn't good enough for a lot of them because I wasn't using the right flavor of Linux in their view.
But yeah, Mint is fine for my needs- a web browser and a handful of applications- and I'm going to stick with it.
Every community everywhere has a-holes. Live your best minty life
It’s the hobbyist issue. “You don’t [hobby]‽ Learn it!” Followed by “Do more [complicated/expensive/expert] version.”
I’m really glad I switched, but I’m a casual. I shouldn’t’ve taken the die hards into account when switching. You don’t need or want to learn an instrument on the most expensive version. You don’t need or want a high end carbon fiber bike to get into shape and do grocery runs. And you don’t need or want to learn on arch unless you’re certain you want to spend a lot of time learning.
In the past 5ish years linux has entered viability as an “I just need a computer and this seems like it might be better for my needs/wants”. We should trust them about as much as the people saying to drop thousands of dollars on a top of the line bicycle for groceries.
I can relate. if you let people tell you what you should do, you will never feel satisfied because there is no consensus. People are addicted to pointing out negatives and telling others what they should be doing. I am an arch user because of imagined people telling me I should.
I realize now I that this has impacted my life in many ways. I am working to uncover the difference between what I want, and what I think i should do because of what my brain thinks people expect of me.
And you're programming you can still do most of the terminal shenanigans that are enabled by linux
Fedora was actually the last version of Linux I used, back in high school on my old HP e-Vectra. Fedora Core 4. What made you pick Fedora? I'm going to be switching to Linux before Win 10 is end of life, and there are so many more options than there were in the early 2000's.
Fedora is a very solid, no nonsense distro. It gives you a vanilla Linux experience, with sane defaults out of the box. You get major updates every 6 month shipping newer version of the core stuff (kernel, desktop environment, etc). The Fedora community is dedicated to deliver a reliable OS and tests a lot before shipping updates.
It's my favorite desktop/laptop distro for many years.
However, there are a couple a pitfalls to avoid. If you go for it, follow some beginners guide to get you sorted out with things like codecs and proprietary drivers. E.g: Things to do after installing Fedora 40 - itsfoss.com I would definitely recommend to do steps 2, 3, 4 and 5 from this guide.
Fedora isn't my distro of choice, but I can confirm it's an excellent no-nonsense choice. It gets the job done with minimal fuss.
I increased my antidepressants due to ArchLinux
I use Xanax, BTW.
ngl it sounds like a distro
If based on reality, I'm sorry to hear it and how it gets better soon. As a Linux user for over a decade, this is extremely funny.
Now, have you heard of Plan9 from Bell Labs?... /s
No, but I've heard of plan 9 from outer space.
After decades of hearing how bad that film is, I finally broke down and watched it.
The incredible terrible reputation that precedes it doesn't even remotely do justice to how very very bad it is.
But also, it has Tor in it. That's pretty cool.
Plan 9 From Outer Space is the benchmark for b-movies... and it's a really low bar.
It's useful if your mental health issues are caused by Microsoft. For example, if I ever have to go through another license audit, I may have a psychotic break.
You paid for your windows license?
My company did (via dell) for employee workstations. Microsoft puts you though a site audit if you have anything they ever made. And if you have some products you also end up paying prices for things they didn't make. "You have network connect phones on the same vlan as a windows server? Here's a license for each phone, that'll be $8000 please. Now lets talk about all your printers..."
You put it out in the universe. You’re doomed to go through another one!
(I’ve been in IT for 10 years, I don’t wish this on my worst enemy, sorry for your luck.)
Linux has helped me rediscover my love for computers. And the many small and larger hobby projects I can now embark on because of it do in fact help with my mental health.
Same for me..I'm a totally different person because I found Linux..If I had found it earlier maybe I would pursuit an IT career but I'm still glad to have a hobby that fulfill my hunger for knowledge and I have a lot of fun tinkering and playing with Linux
If you’re triggered, maybe you should try Linux!
It would help though
lemmy users be like: linux, star trek, elon musk, trump, socialism, linux
Forgot 🏳️⚧️
They already said linux
But one of those is a community of people banded together for mutual aid to protect their basic rights and the other....oh....I see what you did there.
Be the change
But do you use Trumpix or Ubuntu Tesla Edition?
You forgot linux.
No way! I usually start with Star Trek first, then the rest after that.
Also Star Wars too.
Does this refer to the overall Lemmy meta or was there a specific "sucks your mum died; maybe it was from the shame of you using Adobe products" moment?
I would never say that to anyone. Lol.
But I would probably wear it on a t-shirt.
I was taking a stab at the meta. Although i don't doubt this has happened somewhere
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX. Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called “Linux”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project. There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called “Linux” distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
This comment is the most Linux thing I've ever seen. It's the very definition of pedantic.
It's a famous copypasta
No, Richard, it's 'Linux', not 'GNU/Linux'. The most important contributions that the FSF made to Linux were the creation of the GPL and the GCC compiler. Those are fine and inspired products. GCC is a monumental achievement and has earned you, RMS, and the Free Software Foundation countless kudos and much appreciation. Following are some reasons for you to mull over, including some already answered in your FAQ. One guy, Linus Torvalds, used GCC to make his operating system (yes, Linux is an OS -- more on this later). He named it 'Linux' with a little help from his friends. Why doesn't he call it GNU/Linux? Because he wrote it, with more help from his friends, not you. You named your stuff, I named my stuff -- including the software I wrote using GCC -- and Linus named his stuff. The proper name is Linux because Linus Torvalds says so. Linus has spoken. Accept his authority. To do otherwise is to become a nag. You don't want to be known as a nag, do you? (An operating system) != (a distribution). Linux is an operating system. By my definition, an operating system is that software which provides and limits access to hardware resources on a computer. That definition applies where-ever you see Linux in use. However, Linux is usually distributed with a collection of utilities and applications to make it easily configurable as a desktop system, a server, a development box, or a graphics workstation, or whatever the user needs. In such a configuration, we have a Linux (based) distribution. Therein lies your strongest argument for the unwieldy title 'GNU/Linux' (when said bundled software is largely from the FSF). Go bug the distribution makers on that one. Take your beef to Red Hat, Mandrake, and Slackware. At least there you have an argument. Linux alone is an operating system that can be used in various applications without any GNU software whatsoever. Embedded applications come to mind as an obvious example. Next, even if we limit the GNU/Linux title to the GNU-based Linux distributions, we run into another obvious problem. XFree86 may well be more important to a particular Linux installation than the sum of all the GNU contributions. More properly, shouldn't the distribution be called XFree86/Linux? Or, at a minimum, XFree86/GNU/Linux? Of course, it would be rather arbitrary to draw the line there when many other fine contributions go unlisted. Yes, I know you've heard this one before. Get used to it. You'll keep hearing it until you can cleanly counter it. You seem to like the lines-of-code metric. There are many lines of GNU code in a typical Linux distribution. You seem to suggest that (more LOC) == (more important). However, I submit to you that raw LOC numbers do not directly correlate with importance. I would suggest that clock cycles spent on code is a better metric. For example, if my system spends 90% of its time executing XFree86 code, XFree86 is probably the single most important collection of code on my system. Even if I loaded ten times as many lines of useless bloatware on my system and I never executed that bloatware, it certainly isn't more important code than XFree86. Obviously, this metric isn't perfect either, but LOC really, really sucks. Please refrain from using it ever again in supporting any argument. Last, I'd like to point out that we Linux and GNU users shouldn't be fighting among ourselves over naming other people's software. But what the heck, I'm in a bad mood now. I think I'm feeling sufficiently obnoxious to make the point that GCC is so very famous and, yes, so very useful only because Linux was developed. In a show of proper respect and gratitude, shouldn't you and everyone refer to GCC as 'the Linux compiler'? Or at least, 'Linux GCC'? Seriously, where would your masterpiece be without Linux? Languishing with the HURD? If there is a moral buried in this rant, maybe it is this: Be grateful for your abilities and your incredible success and your considerable fame. Continue to use that success and fame for good, not evil. Also, be especially grateful for Linux' huge contribution to that success. You, RMS, the Free Software Foundation, and GNU software have reached their current high profiles largely on the back of Linux. You have changed the world. Now, go forth and don't be a nag.
We found the Linux Police people💀
Average GNU, can't even tell a division slash
/from an addition plus+.I just died laughing almost tearing up with random public looking at me
I expected pitchforks, but I'm more pleased by this outcome
A lot of us have good humor about it
I recently discovered this community exists that you’ll like [email protected]
I mean, Linux cannot solve mental problems (hope it can get better <3), but it can help with big number of other problems 🥹so you can still try it 🥹
You know how people always tell depressed people to exercise because it actually works in a lot of cases?
Man, does it ever work. Running changed my life!
Running broke my knees, but have you heard the good word of bicycles?
I certainly have. I ride often enough.
My knees were busted too. Took me a while to realize I was overtraining at the beginning. The ramp up to 5k took me 10 weeks when it should have taken 8 as I was all sorts of busted up after thinking I could just complete the goal early. I was wrong. Slow and steady won that race and every race after that in my experience. Injured myself a few more times on the way to 10k and again on the way to 21.
I seem to have leveled out so next year's goal is 42.2 for a full marathon distance.
perhaps, "we told 100 depressed people to excercise, 50 of them did, and the depressed people who excercised had way better mental health!"
I say this as an Apple user: most Linux users are pretty normal people. Some are like the most annoying Apple evangelist I’ve ever encountered.
Of course, we never hear from the normal ones.
Because they’re NORMAL. Only the fanatics force Linux into every conversation possible. The normal ones just read the insane comments and roll their eyes. They know better than to get into an online argument with the obsessed.
Whenever someone tells me about the problem they're having on Windows (which I haven't used on my computer in years) or any Apple OS I explain how I would fix it Linux if I don't happen to know how on their OS. If the Linux way is easier I also usually give it as a comparison.
I only really do this with people who I know could easily get Linux working and people already interested in Linux.
I've started to do this as well, simply so they feel like I'm engaged with the conversation.
It's funny, lately they start to realize how much nicer my computer (experience) is than theirs.
Oh, I'm well aware. To most people, a computer is a tool, a means to an end, and we don't talk about them unless they're not working.
Use Solaris. You can't have mental health issues if your brain is on the wall.
I remember solaris. It's not Linux, but it's definitely posix compliant.
Well, more posix compliant than Linux. But I'm not sure any OS out there today actually complies.
(That's not a complaint, by the way. It's not a worthwhile goal.)
"I'm going to throw myself off a bridge!"
"I use Arch btw"
SCNR
As long as it's an arch type bridge.......
Very accurate
BTW maybe you should try gym
...or mint. Mint is good. It's based on Ubuntu, but greener and less commercial. Also less orange. And it'll feel moderately familiar without being even slightly the same.
Agreed, playing pokemon and beating gyms always cheers me up
I did a little time in the feds with a guy named Jim. He was a horrible racist.
I once had trouble with my arches.....
They recommended Debian.
That way, instead of taking care of yourself, you can the care of your machine !
Especially if it's arch Linux
I feel personally attacked.
That was the plan
I like the cut of your jib.
Your ideas are intriguing to me, and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
There's one requirement
Linux mint?
Even better
::: spoiler Tap for spoiler chromebooks :::
Some people just want to watch the world burn.
I salute your evil mind.
🙀
I see a lot of the "even once you pick a Linux distro you get yelled at for using the wrong one" and like I just haven't seen that here?
Lemmy is by far the chilliest place of Linux users I've ever fucking seen. Even when I posted an issue on the Linux mint forum I got fucking told "well you used XFCE, there's your issue" despite it being the better choice for that system
We absolutely will pressure people to try it, because we're a cult. Meetings on Thursdays at 9PM for my local chapter
Just wait till you say you're using Ubuntu. ^^;
Ok, even I have a cringe reaction to that by default
Even then though I've only really seen people go "you should try mint instead, basically that but without the proprietary stuff"
Think I did see ONE guy weirdly assholish about it but haven't seen em in a while
Ubuntu isn't such a bad choice if you want to quickly spin up a server.
Package managers really improve my day.
I think they're referred to as sex workers now but agreed.
Using windows is a serious mental health issue? Well..... Hahahahaah
The issue of lemmy users telling you to use linux can be solved by using linux
No! Not this Linux. My Linux is better because i can install the squabblesquanks myself and the doodledot UX is just more like in Hatted-Archer-Buntu 2.374. that one was the best OS ever made, but they messed it up with release 2.4
I use Linux btw.
Yep! It worked for me!
What if my mental problems come from fighting Windows?
Bro just throw a rock
Fight em harder
Yes, or Lenny users just in general
Edit: I’m not fixing it
But... Have you tried linux?
arch btw
Okey but consider this. FreeBSD.
Who is 'BSD' and what crime got him locked up in the first place?
Locked up for removing the M and changing the order of the letters to cover up the crime
It’s a country, I hear China annexed it
He was in an aquarium till some kid freed him. I saw a movie about it way back.
FreeBSD: The final refuge?
Enter: NetBSD
Well...
For what it's worth the seizures and the Linux started about the same time it's just both have gotten SIGNIFICANTLY worse lately. Computer's running great, hate waking up in the ER though.
Well, you should!
emerge this, emerge that, how about you use portage to emerge yourself some bitches
Mind is too busy fixing your rice to be sad.
I mean, it’ll definitely take your mind of your lesser problems
You don't have tine worrying about mental health problems when you are installing linux from scratch btw!
I'm sorry you must of meant GNU/Linux. Linux is just the kernel, while gnu is the operating system. I hope you're using more than just linux 👻
Lol. Take my angry up vote.
Pffh .. Amateur assuming I'm using userspace tools while I input systemcalls directly.
Thank you good sir for the genuine laugh
“You feel like a stupid piece of shit? Try a brand new OS to have that feeling confirmed.”
Linux cured my cancer and gave me $1,000,000
And I'd rather not be sane, thank you! 🤪
Well yeah. I had all sorts of mental health problems I was struggling to deal with, but now I'm struggling to make the perfect desktop configuration instead.
ROFL This is accurate. It will certainly distract you from serious mental health issues but not act as a balm against inner discord.
I'm thankful my inner daemons use IRC.
...
I'll just see myself out now.
Hah, I even got this pun, so this is a good one as a casual Linux user. You can stay!
My transparency in kitty broke today from an update (probably like mesa or something idk) so I feel.
It encourages self-reliance and fosters a sense of control. Sure everything in our lives is increasingly forced on us by corporations run by out of touch narcissists, but there's at least one way we still can have control of our own.
They're right, cuz you will find a great community of like-minded people.
Source: I'm a regular Linux guy.
There are dozens of us
You jest but using Linux did actually alleviate some mental health problems
I like linux a lot but I think NixOS has been a terrible mistake for my ADHD.
But did you try it?
yay ssri
or maybe
yum -i maoi
I'm gonna need a source for this
glad you started existing again
Ty
Tsk tsk. You should try BSD instead!
Yeah, but have u tho?
linux users are like catholics, they never stfu.
A little bit of low-stakes adversity is good for your mental health
No one has made fun of me yet for using PopOS.
Then it's about time
That ratio says a lot about our society
Have you met our lord and saviour, Richard Stallman?