Spyke
lemm.ee

As an American, I cannot legally touch any egg that hasn't been ultra-pasteurized followed by continuous cold chain refrigeration and served in either a Styrofoam or pulped paper cardboard egg carton.

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RaoulDookreply
lemmy.world

I think you have been misinformed. As an American, I can harvest eggs just like the pictured ones from my own backyard on a regular basis.

They don't even cost any money, they come out of chicken asses for free.

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joel_feilareply
lemmy.world

You must have weird chickens. My lay eggs out if their cloaca.

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Mr_Blottreply
lemmy.world

What a noob. Ours come from shops. That way, our entire fuckin garden doesn't smell like a crashed ammonia tanker

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As a side note, if your chicken coop smells like a crashed ammonia tanker you need to add more carbon in the coop. Dead leaves, cardboard, shredded wood or wood chips are working well.

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RaoulDookreply
lemmy.world

Sorry your yard is so small. Mine is large enough that the chicken coop is far away from the house and is usually not a bother. Summertime when the wind is just wrong can be an annoying stench, but it's almost nothing compared to the smell of dumpsters in a big city during summer heat.

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Mr_Blottreply
lemmy.world

We call our yards "metres" and they're a little bit bigger than yours

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Sir, this is a Wendy's shitpost community.

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You have no idea how big I can live. What if I told you that I knew a guy who can turn you into a walrus?

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Let’s not pretend the acquisition and upkeep of chickens is free… if you eat a lot of eggs it is absolutely worth it, but there is some cost in setting up a coop, getting chickens, keeping chickens fed and safe from predators, disease, etc.

Plus you have to have property to keep them on and be allowed to have them on your property. For most Americans that isn’t possible due to lack of home ownership or HOA restrictions on what animals you can have on “your” property. (HOAs are bullshit)

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Gladaedreply
feddit.de

This is pulped paper cardboard, is it not?

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lemmy.world

I just noticed the mistake and I knew one of you smart asses was going to call me out before I message to fix it :(

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Mr_Blottreply
lemmy.world

You message to fix it? What, you have staff to do it for you?

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aardreply
kyu.de

What kind of monster stores bananas in the fridge?

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nrezcmreply
lemmy.world

Bananas in the US get washed and lose their protective coating so it's fairly normal to see them in the fridge in US homes.

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JJROKCZreply
lemmy.world

I’ve never put mine in the fridge in all my decades as an American lol

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Way to humble brag about your imported European bananas that don't require refrigeration.

(It was a joke btw lol)

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Lennyreply
lemmy.world

And tomatoes!!! Might as well eat ice cubes at that point

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lemm.ee

refrigerators keep things chilled, not frozen. you're thinking of a freezer.

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thecrotchreply
sh.itjust.works

Europeans don't have freezers, they store their perishables in Angela Merkel's minge.

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SteveTechreply
programming.dev

Yeah, and I feel like someone's gonna slam that door one day and get egg all over their bananas.

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If "get egg all over their bananas" wasn't an euphemism before, I'm starting it now.

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Once they've reached your desired ripeness you can slow down them getting overripe in the fridge.

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can you imagine searching for something on google and it just ai generates images on the fly

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littlecoltreply
lemm.ee

Yo why are you keeping bananas in the fridge?

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lemmy.world

I'm pretty sure that's a stock image so I don't think that's a pic of anyone's legit fridge.

But to answer your question, you can keep bananas on the counter until they reach your preferred level of ripeness and then put them in the fridge to slow down the ripening process so you have a few more days to eat them before they turn to complete mush. I do it all time to ensure I always have bananas around at my preferred level of ripeness.

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Smoogsreply
lemmy.world

They brown more in the fridge. If anything cold speeds up the banana going gross.

Avocados work the way you say. I wouldn’t do it to a banana

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Yes the outside goes brown, but the inside slows down it's ripening process. Eventually they will all go to mush, but you can keep them at peak ripeness for a few days longer by putting them in the fridge.

Then again most people won't eat a banana if it has a single brown spot on it, so I'm probably wasting my breath by telling people they can prevent food waste by eating discolored but perfectly ripe food.

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uisreply
lemmy.world

Microwaved water for tea.

This sounds so painfully long

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Noel_Skumreply
sh.itjust.works

It kind of depends on the “quality” of the electricity that runs your domestic property. In the UK there is some serious juice coming through the socket and the kettles there go hard and fast.

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lordmauvereply
programming.dev

Yeah, I shell out for the premium electricity, the 99% electrons. The 95% stuff is fine but I have a lot of expensive devices; I want them to run as fast as possible.

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Damn. I didn’t know they still manufactured the 95% electrons stuff. Probably left over stock that they sell at discounted prices.

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This gives me the same vibe as Andrew Tate boasting about not recycling the pizza box. Not scared, sad

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lemmy.world

In the US, there's a concern for salmonella or other bacteria and viruses. Factory egg farming is a horror show in regards to overcrowding and hygiene. Sick birds are crammed in with healthy laying birds, and washing the eggs is one of the safest ways to prevent contamination.

It does increase the permeability of the shell, decreasing shelf life and requiring refrigeration.

If your eggs looked like this in the USA, there's a small but non-zero chance that you'll shit yourself to death. Probably not, but it's scary enough.

We could improve factory farming regulations so it's not a like a Cronenberg movie, but then eggs would be more expensive. And even if we did, and stopped washing our eggs, Americans would still want them to look clean and would still keep them in the fridge because we've been conditioned to expect to die on the toilet covered in wet feces if we see bird poop on the eggs.

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echo64reply
lemmy.world

Fwiw, the eggs wouldn't have to be more expensive, the eggs cost what the market will pay.

The only change is that the people profiting from your poor food conditions will profit slightly less.

This is a common lie they tell everyone.

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ButtDrugsreply
lemm.ee

They won't profit less, line must go up. They'd charge double the difference and blame immigrants and Obama.

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echo64reply
lemmy.world

sure they could charge more, but the market wouldn't swallow it so they would sell less. if they could charge more for eggs, they would be doing so right now, for extra profit.

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lemmy.world

They would collude. All eggs would go up just like during covid, and they wouldn't lose any sales.

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If they could do that, they would do that right now. If they could charge more there's nothing stopping them from doing that today. We are already at the maximum price they can charge.

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Keeping unwashed eggs in the fridge at home helps them last longer, as long as you don't leave them out to sweat.

But yeah here in Sweden, we rarely ever get salmonella recalls since the chickens aren't strapped to a box here.

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kbin.social

If your eggs looked like this in the USA, there’s a small but non-zero chance that you’ll shit yourself to death. Probably not, but it’s scary enough.

Unless you got it from your own chicken coop

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buzziebeereply
lemmy.world

Chickens are vaccinated against salmonella (and a bunch of other things) when they are chicks in Europe. It means you don't need to worry about shitting yourself to death, the chickens are slightly happier by not being sick, and your eggs stay fresher for longer.

It would probably add $0.005 per egg, so US producers will claim it's communism if a regulation is brought in to vaccinate chicken, but it would be worth doing.

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lemmy.world

You mean you put 5G tracking devices in your chickens?

Really, though, getting poultry farmers to spend a penny per dozen eggs is like trying to squeeze water from a rock.

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ladreply
programming.dev

Yeah, it helps one find them if they run away

They've made a documentary about it back in the day:

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They recently made a new one with up-to-date info on the security of those chickens

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Fuckin finally. The tryna high road the Europe and shit like they don't have poor chicken treatment situations too. Its all down to vaccination requirements. They the treatment of chickens cause both places have issues lol

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Refrigerating the eggs end to end costs money too, possibly more. I don't think it's about ongoing cost but rather upfront cost to switching.

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kbin.social

At what point do people not just think that maybe going vegan isn't that bad of an alternative

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But eggs are yummy. Baked goods, thickened sauces, omelettes and deviled eggs and egg salad, you can't really replace them with vegan alternatives. Aquafaba is pretty close for some of it, but people like their eggs and don't care about how much their food suffers before we eat it.

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It is way too challenging in my mind at least. I do one meat meal a week and veg the rest. All the fun stuff has milk and eggs in it.

But hey you do it if it makes you happy.

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Mr_Blottreply
lemmy.world

I have a picture of my receipt for an incredibly reasonably-priced ECG scan I had the other day if you like? I think it was €9

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The biggest reason eggs are refrigerated in the US is because they're not vaccinated for salmonella, so refrigeration is needed to inhibit growth. The US was able to do that since they have the infrastructure for end to end refrigeration. It's not necessarily wrong, it's just another way to do it. Since salmonella can also be on the outside of the egg they need to be washed, and since they're refrigerated the loss of the protective layer doesn't matter. I guess in Europe with the vaccination it also lowers the chance of salmonella on the outside of the egg allowing the outside to remain unwashed and protective of the inside making refrigeration unnecessary. There's just not enough of a reason to change things in the us now since the refrigeration method is already in place and switching would cost more up front. The main downside is that you can't eat raw eggs in the US which means some dishes can't be made, but the vast majority of the US isn't interested in raw egg dishes anyways.

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There are tons of back yard chickens in the USA, even in many cities.

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lemmy.world

This probably goes without saying to anyone who has chickens but a message to rest DO NOT WASH your eggs. It's the stupidest thing you can do. When you wash them you remove protective layer and they can't last long outside of refrigerator. Even in the fridge chances of getting Salmonella grows very fast.

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feddit.de

DO wash them shortly before eating, though – they come out the chicken's “universal back hole”.

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They sometimes crack when boiling, and I don’t want my hardboiled eggs in water with dissolved excrements

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As someone who has been eating eggs out of our own production for several years now:

I've never washed an egg. Ever. When we get eggs from our hens, we mark them with the date and they go into the fridge. When we want to eat them, we take them out and do whatever is required.

We mainly consume eggs in boiled, fried and scrambled form, but also sometimes in a carbonara pasta, where they'll get heated but not cooked.

None of us have ever gotten sick from consuming those eggs, in whichever form. We don't consume eggs that are significantly older than one month, but that's pretty much our only safeguard.

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lemmy.ml

Not Americans that are used to eating farm fresh eggs from the local farmers market. I lived in downtown Austin until recently and getting freshly picked produce from local and urban farms every Saturday was one of my favorite parts of my week.

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Mr_Blottreply
lemmy.world

Hello I'm from the FBI and I'm on my way to disappear your local farmers thank you

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Houston here, and same. There's a bunch of smaller ones. Some get invaded by folks selling store bought things but I dig heading to the farmer's market on weekends. All the meat I get is from small local farms as well.

Not everyone has that luxury due to cost and location. I know exactly how lucky I am to have so many options nearby, to be able to afford the slightly higher prices, and to have the time to go when they're open.

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lemmy.world

My guy, I grew up on a chicken farm. This does not scare me.

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Mr_Blottreply
lemmy.world

Well obviously if you're an actual chicken, it won't. How was your cage growing up?

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BetaBlakereply
lemmy.world

Why are people upvoting you, you aren't funny, it feels like a 13 year old got ahold of someone's account and is doing their first try at shitposting

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I grew up raising chickens among other animals. Poop and feathers on eggs was the norm. This ‘50s processed white bread, white sugar, clean eggs, etc. that was the sign of “progress” I guess IMO has done more harm than good in some ways.

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lemmy.world

Am American living in the city with 8 chickens. The only scary thing is seeing eggs in the market go for $10/dozen

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Mr_Blottreply
lemmy.world

I'd love to see this city that only has 8 chickens in it

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Detherothreply
lemmynsfw.com

I don't know what you're doing, but the way you can turn a phrase around is remarkable. You've gotten a few chuckles outta me this morning.

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Vash63reply
lemmy.world

Wow, that's crazy. It's €4.49/10 here tax included for the fancy free range, low volume farm ones from a not-cheap supermarket.

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3.2USD here for a dozen cage-free brown eggs!

My folks’ chickens’ eggs have orange-r yolks tho.

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lemmy.world

Miss living near the Amish. They have these cute big families with so many children and agricultural stuff for low prices. I would love to convince them to somehow some way homestead in my city.

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Classyreply
sh.itjust.works

Funny, as someone who works intimately with them I find myself distrusting them. They are great at putting on the "old timey, super genuine sweet Christian folk" persona but don't get it wrong. Their ideology spreads like a cancer around here. They breed like crazy, buy up all the private land, displace other locals with their farms, eschew environmentally friendly agricultural practice to save money, their buggies destroy the roads and cause terrible fatal accidents. It's not to say they're all bad but they're absolutely a highly insular cult and they have no problem turning on outsiders to further their society.

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lemmy.world

buggies destroy the roads

How? I'd always heard that heavier vehicles do more damage to roads, so I'd expect buggies to be on par with bicycles or maybe motorcycles.

cause fatal accidents

I'm curious about this one, too. Do they tend to drive erratically? I'd think their slower top speeds would make it easier to avoid accidents.

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Many Amish churches ban rubber tires and the buggies will at best use hardwood wheels, and otherwise they'll be steel. Weight is of some minor concern but more principally the hard materials as well as the shoed horses wear away at the road. In high density Amish areas it's common to see two deep grooves in the road from buggies.

Buggies are not designed for modern roads. They have very little safety features (in fact they only begrudgingly even put reflectors on them, and maybe occasionally flashers for at night), and their bulky, dense bodies and slow movement make them pretty devastating targets to hit. They don't crumple like a modern car. They explode. Car-on-buggy accidents are very frequently fatal. I know plenty of Amish who have lost family to accidents at relatively slow speeds.

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displace other locals with their farms, es

Meh I am not sure how people stuck on old tech are so much better at farming that they can outcompete modern farms. How bad at your job can you be to have your ass handed to you by the 17th century?

Kinda getting tired of the whole "my life sucks because I am lazy let me get angry at people who are actually successful". Tall poppy syndrome is running rampant, especially in rural America. You can thank me for paying for your roads btw.

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lemmy.world

But my fridge has a little spot just for the eggs. They look so cozy there. I actually don’t know where I’d keep something as fragile as eggs outside my fridge in the kitchen. Genuine question where do you keep your eggs safe? Do they often break?

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Mr_Blottreply
lemmy.world

We don't need an eggs safe, fuck me they're not that valuable

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Crowreply
lemmy.world

Well no. I’m Canada we keep the anlpha egg of the dozen in the egg safe. It’s not large enough for a full carton of eggs.

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C'mon, you're making Canada sound backwards like that. We have banks and they have safety deposit boxes large enough for several cartons of eggs.

I also keep eggs hidden around the house in case I get a midnight craving for an omelette and don't feel like doing a midnight heist on my own eggs. Though I do regret the ones I hid under the couch cushions.

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It's not that those are valuable, it's that those are dangerous. Have you ever tried throwing one after getting it out of an egg safe where it was safely tucked away for the last decade?

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Vash63reply
lemmy.world

In a cupboard in their container? They don't spontaneously combust, as long as they're in the cardboard it's pretty hard to accidentally break them.

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BakerBagelreply
midwest.social

I drop so much out of my cupboards resching for something else. I've dropped eggs before, and i would rather clean up a full sack of flour than half a dozen eggs.

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Sounds like you might need to go through your things and ask if each brings you joy and get rid of whatever doesn't.

Does this egg bring me joy? Throws egg on floor, giggles yes it does. Makes note to replace egg

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slrpnk.net

Am american and this: is what I have in my fridge right now. Rural living win.

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lemmy.world

Wait, why fridge? I thought they last at room temp if they still have the chicken butt juice. Do they last longer cold?

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wesleyreply
yall.theatl.social

I still put farm fresh eggs in my fridge because it's just a lot more convenient to store eggs in the fridge than on my counter where I have more limited space

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bignatereply
discuss.tchncs.de

I don't get this at all. Isn't your fridge much smaller than your counter space?

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My fridge is designed to store food and has multiple shelves and drawers. My counters are a flat surface area and I'd rather keep them clear for active uses like cutting, prepping, etc.

There are also appliances competing for space on the counter like coffee machines

I guess there's the pantry but it's also just that I'm used to keeping them in the fridge and it's not like it hurts them to go in the fridge.

Anyway, point is it's really not that weird to keep them in the fridge

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If its anything like my counter then kinda, honestly ive knocked enough shit off the counter that its just easier to keep em in the fridge.

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Yeah I suppose I could store them at room temp, but I figure they last longer in the fridge and I'm not really hurting for space.

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OP, that's what it would've looked like. Your eggs been industrially washed. What a moron is that OP.

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Mr_Blottreply
lemmy.world

Unless I've been horribly misinformed, so does honey

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kbin.social

It's actually coming out of the cloaca. No idea about the chicken tho

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Manucodereply
feddit.de

You're both misinformed. Honey doesn't come either out of a bee's anus nor out of a bee's cloaca. It comes out of the mouth. Bees don't even have a cloaca. Chickens though do have a cloaca and that's where the eggs come out.

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Mr_Blottreply
lemmy.world

So where do the chickens produce honey from then, smartypants?

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ramble81reply
lemm.ee

So I’ve thought about the chicken and the egg issue. Wouldn’t it be the egg first since it contained an evolved spices that we currently call the chicken? The one that produced it doesn’t have to be a chicken, only that it produced a mutated offspring whose egg contained the chicken.

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Asafumreply
feddit.nl

It's more like the egg contained something slightly different from the mother, and that trend continues for thousands and thousands of "iterations" until eventually it's completely distinct from that "first" one. There shouldn't be any species that gives birth to something completely different where it's protochicken straight to chicken.

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That’s kinda what I’m getting at, in that at some point you draw the line on what is a “chicken” vs what isn’t a chicken.

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pigupreply
lemmy.world

Cloaca is its ass, just a multifunctional one

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Okokimupreply
lemmy.world

That's ridiculous, chickens don't have asses. When's the last time you went to KFC and ordered a bucket of wings, breasts, and asses?

Sidenote: my phone thnks the word breasts must be changed to breaststroke every time.

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The asses are like the sub-dogfood grade meat at taco bell. You don't explicitly ask for it, but everyone just knows that's what they are getting.

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JoShmoereply
ani.social

If eating ass was a sport I’d know about it.

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feddit.de

It's comfortable for Americans but unheard of in many European countries. The point of this post is to make them uncomfortable.

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In Norway I've only seen eggs sold in packs of 6, 12, 18, or 24. As far as I can remember, anyway.

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Well, I never bought eggs outside the Czech Republic, Germany and Romania, and they were only available in multiples of 10.

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lemmy.world

Can confirm. We (in US) have chickens and whenever we gift eggs to people they're astounded that they don't need to be refrigerated but also sometimes horrified that they aren't washed.

Granted, I keep the eggs that get poopy for myself so they don't get tossed out by an overly cautious person. I just rinse them immediately before use if they're very dirty. Occasionally one of the hens will have an "accident" and lay an egg in the dirt outside or on the coop floor. Otherwise they look generally like the pic above.

I've yet to have a rotten egg and at times we've gotten behind by over a month... Still good, sitting on the counter for a month.

Fun info, I'm currently eating through some "water glassed" eggs that I stored in May of 2023. Still good.

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Mr_Blottreply
lemmy.world

I have looked up "water glassed eggs" and while it does look interesting as a scientific experiment, I'm reasonably certain that you're a psychopath

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Talarainereply
kbin.social

Hahah yeah water glassing is kind of a throwback that helps keep them even through temp variations. We did an experiment back when we had a homestead a few years ago, where we cleaned any nasties if there were any and then dipped the eggs in oil and kept them in a cool room.

We came back every three months to try an egg. We ended the experiment at 2 years after which 25% of them began to float. The rest were still edible but the yolk wouldn't stay together when cracked.

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Yeah, at ~8 months these are about 50/50 on whether the yolks hold together. Still taste fine though.

I decided to give it a try since in the spring/summer they were laying way more than we could keep up with ... But mostly because I thought it was interesting and wanted to try it :D

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You'll hear no arguments from me : D

More like curious psychopath, maybe

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lemmy.world

I know hardy har har such banter, but for real we also have unwashed eggs, and plenty of Americans have chicken's, I currently have 80 in my backyard and am overflowing with eggs on my countertops.

Your jokes will hit harder if they come from a place of reality and not only information gained from reddit and social media posts.

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lemmy.world

There are Americans who own chickens and Americans who've never touched one. It's a big country. This post applies mostly to city folk.

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I live in a major American city maybe 4 miles from downtown and I have a farm with fresh eggs and produce a block from my house.

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lemmy.world

This post applies mostly to city folk.

The ones subsidizing the rest of the country. You think Cletus has health insurance while he cosplays as a farmer think his 600 dollar a month land tax is paying for his 4 kids in school? 9 out of 50 states pay federal taxes and those states all happen to have the biggest cities.

But hey I get it. My parents were cosplay farmers as well. Here I am working like a schmuck for a living.

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Wolf_359reply
lemmy.world

My man, if people want to own a couple chickens it's not that serious.

The rural welfare states are really a separate issue from that.

I do find it funny that conservative states are so anti-welfare when their existence depends on it though.

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I don't get upset about people having a hobby, I encourage it. Just you know because you have fun doing something doesn't mean the rest of us have to subsidize your hobby. I enjoy baking that doesn't mean I get to quit my job and do it full time and depend on the government to pay me for it.

Knew a lot of families like mine growing up. Want to get a real job? No? Ok go back to failing at potatoes, and spend all your free time hunting while drunk.

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BigBenisreply
lemmy.world

I think that's a fair point. However in this case, as an American I personally know people here who are like this.

A friend of mine will go to the store and buy more eggs because he refuses to eat the fresh eggs I keep on my counter.

Edit: He also keeps an ice chest in his trunk to keep them in during the 20 minute drive from the store...

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Raiderkevreply
lemmy.world

Well, if you're buying them at a store in the US and storing at room temperature, your friend has a point. In Europe, they don't wash the eggs at the processing plant. This leaves a film of sorts on the egg that prevents bacteria from entering the egg. In the US, we wash the eggs in processing to get bacteria off the eggs. Both methods are done to prevent E-coli, but the caveat is the washed eggs need refrigeration because there is no film on the eggs.

https://www.ksat.com/features/2024/01/24/why-eggs-need-to-be-refrigerated-in-us-but-not-europe/#:~:text=Processing%20eggs%20in%20Europe&text=One%2C%20various%20countries%20in%20Europe,of%20needing%20to%20be%20refrigerated.

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lemmy.world

Also-- if the eggs are unwashed and then refrigerated they are now not shelf stable, the condensation that will occur going from fridge to room temp will disturb the cuticle enough to make them unsafe.

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I will add to this... obviously, if you have chickens, farm fresh eggs can be stored at room temperature in the US.

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What, a shitpost didn't take every singe person who exists in America into consideration??!?!?!?? No way, that's awful, I can't believe OP would try and hurt you like that, wild they posted a public meme that didn't apply to you personally

Also I believe you by your use of "chicken's". I grew up rural and many did not know how to pluralize things.

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I don't really know if there are laws about not selling eggs like this. Are there? I understood the practice of washing and sterilizing eggs came about as a marketting thing, b/c Americans tend to buy based on superficial appearance, and washed eggs sold better.

Is egg-washing mandated?

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lemmy.world

Imagine not knowing what mental discharge is and that chickens don't menstruate.

2

You don't have to eat a bird's one. Like that Emo Philips joke: my sister made some eggs, so we cooked them.

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Just out of curiosity, taking into account feed and care for the chickens, how much would you say each egg costs?

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Hmm, this has me curious, I am in Australia at the moment, and the eggs here are unwashed and are kept outside of the fridge. However, they look as if they have been washed. Is there a special kind of rinse eggs go through here that doesn't remove the protective layer? Or are they doing something insane to the poor chooks to get eggs this clean? I rarely see any feathers, bits of muck, etc.

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lemmy.world

It doesn't scare us, we want this. I'd love to see you win vs the chicken industry. They would stomp your ass to the ground like they do to all the chickens!

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You're missing out. Donkey eggs are very high in vitamin A and D.

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drphungkyreply
lemmy.world

Yeah I know it's tongue in cheek, but the mocking should really go the other way, haha. Look at our washed American eggs that scare the Europeans who are used to two orders of magnitude higher incidences of salmonella:

"Overall, egg contamination from industrial systems has been reported to be 0.005% in the United States, 0.37% in Europe, and between 0.5% and 5.6% in China"

-From https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10706720/#:~:text=The%20presence%20of%20Salmonella%20in,3%2C15%2C16%5D.

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barsoapreply
lemm.ee

That's not the number you're looking for with "industrial systems" they mean keeping hens in batteries and that's outlawed in the EU, has been since 2012 (though the actual phase-out took longer). So you're probably looking at maybe Serbian, Belorussian, and Albanian stats.

Overall the study you've cited is not the right one to look at as they're comparing different methods of keeping chickens, it's not focussed on hashing out regional differences much less the wash vs. don't wash issue.

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drphungkyreply
lemmy.world

Fair enough (it was actually way more countries, because I found that the study they quoted quoted a study, so it included Spain, Portugal, others except the UK and Nordic countries), though the study I linked to actually found 2 cases in the "alternative" keeping of hens compared to zero in battery cages. Wasn't statistically significant, but still the point is the washing and refrigeration of eggs greatly lowers the chance of salmonella risk. Animal welfare is sort of a separate issue, though at least it's getting addressed in the EU.

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It's just not big enough of an issue to mandate universal vaccinating: Any salmonella are generally on the shell, not actually infecting the egg. At least in Germany only flocks >350 animals need to be vaccinated.

Also it has to be said that European cuisine is actually quite risky when it comes to salmonella: Proper Tiramisu uses raw egg yolk, proper mousse au chocolat raw egg whites, and a carbonara might contain both semi-raw (depending on how you like it). But it's also well-known that you use fresh eggs for those as the fresher the eggs the less bacteria there will be on there even if infected and it's not like people keel over from a single bacterium. Also don't feed those dishes to small kids or the elderly.

German press reports that authorities say that bacteria loads (not just salmonella) are pretty much similar comparing conventional (that's barn and free range) vs. organic (free range deluxe) eggs (9 vs. 6 vs. 4 hens per m^2^), with a nod towards organic eggs as those don't come with bacteria resistant to antibiotics.

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kbin.social

Am American. Used to have to get those eggs out from under the chickens who wanted to sit on them and get the shit pecked out of me before school everyday.

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Mr_Blottreply
lemmy.world

Am American

You could've shot the chickens first then, duh

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Most of us don’t and many of us are skeeved out by this. I recognize that it’s stupid and these eggs are fine, but it still makes me feel gaggy looking at them.

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Mr_Blottreply
lemmy.world

It's a joke, ya numpty

You know, like your healthcare system

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Granted. Sometime you gotta just take the L. The Americans could mean many places. And a vast majority of us are familiar with farms and brown eggs. Maybe say it would scare the Karens?

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Darth_Mewreply
lemmy.world

like we have a choice bro we are all corporate slaves with no backbones trying to not be homeless and die on the street while some shithead iNfLuEnCeRs records our last moments for a few likes.

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kbin.social

No matter how hard you try.

Bits of that unwashed shell are getting in your food.

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That's ok. Our chickens aren't half-dead, disease-ridden skeletons rotting in battery cages.

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lemmy.world

I still don’t get why you wouldn't still put those eggs on the refrigerator. They will stay fresher longer!

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derf82reply
lemmy.world

Eggs don’t instantly degrade from good to bad overnight. They slowly degrade with weakening membranes and what not. As I said, they stay freshER.

I get unwashed eggs from a farm whenever I can. I still put my eggs in the fridge. And the yolks stay nice and unbroken when making eggs over easy, as I like them.

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barsoapreply
lemm.ee

And here I am, with my fridge-kept unwashed eggs, destroying each and every yolk with the spatula before flipping them over.

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I don't have chickens I buy them unwashed at the store, use a certain amount of them in the next two or three days because I planned for them, and then all bets are off for the left-over eggs.

I'll get around to them eventually, never yet had to throw one away, but they keep longer in the fridge and they need a place to stay anyway so why not there.

Oh and once they near their expiry date hard-boil them, that easily adds another month.

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I don’t see how. In any case, I see zero advantage to NOT storing them in the fridge.

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lemmy.world

Eggs are shelf stable? How long do they last on the counter?

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CalicoJackreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

Unwashed eggs are shelf stable, they last for a few weeks at room temp. Washed eggs, like you'd get at an American grocery store, absolutely need to be refrigerated.

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Corkyskogreply
sh.itjust.works

What if you do the bad/good test with water in a bowl? Do you have to refrigerate them after? Or is that not "washing"?

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MeanEYEreply
lemmy.world

In the old ages there were a number of ways of preserving eggs for long periods of time. Lard was one of them, where they would put many eggs in a pot and fill it with lard. There was also a way with mixing lime with water and keeping eggs in that. They could have been kept edible for years, although I don't wish to hazard the guess on how the produce tasted. Townsends has a great video on the subject.

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Randomgalreply
lemmy.ca

Interesting. But I don't think this is what the guy was asking. XD

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Kind of sort of answers the question. :) From few weeks when farm unwashed, till years when kept in lime water.

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I want my eggs washed because I deal with enough shit, literal and metaphorical, in my every day life, that I dont want to start my day off with it during breakfast.

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They probably think they grow out of the ground rather than come from an animal.

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Seems a bit dated - when was the last time you touched base with your Yank pals? Even in the cities now chicken cooping is extremely popular. Very common to have your own hens or have a work friend or neighbor hook you up with eggs from theirs these days. I think most people are now familiar with eggs that look like these.

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lemm.ee

You can wash eggs at home (only) if you immediately use them afterwards.

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I keep dropping them in my rush from the sink to the stove.

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sh.itjust.works

Heads up, OP: these eggs have been industrially washed, sterilized, then someone took a feather and glued it on them. Look it up.

You ever wondered why you'd find at most one of them per box?

Basically, you're as big of an idiot as your portrait of an American grocery shopper, but you're also a naive hypocrite.

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ExLisperreply
linux.community

Don't be silly. Those are not real eggs. Birds are not real and so aren't eggs.

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lemm.ee

How do you know this? It's actually illegal to wash eggs in many countries, for the reasons outlined in the post.

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lemmy.world

I know right, why are we so uptight? Who wouldn't want their eggs covered in crusty vaginal residue and dirty feathers? THAT'S WHAT REALLY SEALS IN THE FLAVOR!!! 🤢🤢🤢🤮

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Most of us in Europe don't eat the shells, actually.

Then again, who wouldn't want their eggs washed off with god knows what kind of chemicals that remove the natural protective membrane from the shells, so now you have to store the eggs in the fridge rather than just the shelf?

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MrJameGumbreply
lemmy.world

Never! I always crack eggs PERFECTLY so that it splits cleanly in half with no shards and the egg inside never touches the outside of the shell... 😰

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There's actually a membrane on the inside of the shell, I didn't learn to crack an egg in half cleanly until a few years ago.

If you shatter a bit of the side, you can take both hands and pull it apart with both hands... It's hard to describe, but you grab all the fragments with your fingers and then rip the membrane. It gets goop on your fingertips and a handful of shell shards, but it's extremely easy to get all the shards, and the insides don't come near the shell.

Instead of learning to get the force right, you can drop it 4-6 inches flat onto a countertop and it'll break the shell without breaking the membrane

You could also wash it if you're really worried, I wash my hands every time I touch egg goop anyways. It's also probably about to be cooked, so it's not like it's a health risk.

But they taste better and last much longer... even unrefrigerated. I always get fresh local eggs when I get the chance, it's worth the initial grossness (I was very skeptical at first, but after I ate the first one I got over it)

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I mean, you can just wash the egg before cooking with it, like you do with potatoes or other vegetables.

I'm not overly bothered by the need to refrigerate my eggs, but also it wouldn't bother me to rinse crap off one more ingredient before cooking.

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