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Threats and promises are your guiding principles?

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I think we agree, we're just coming at it from different places, and I was being quite vague at trying to play devil's advocate.

In this hypothetical, one person makes it out alive and we have no other contextual info. There isn't a moral value assigned to that event in a vacuum, because a biological imperative - the instinct to preserve one's own life - both precedes and precludes morality.

In hindsight, we can apply our moral judgement and decide if that killing was "justified", but it's a messy, fraught process with mixed results and nothing gained. At the moment of one killing another, the killed is reduced to their biological imperative to stay alive. They do what any animal would do in that moment and, though we try, it's futile to think we can consistently overlay morality on whatever outcome results.

In the spirit of the OP, there's an argument to be made against killing which doesn't invoke religious dogma or a higher power. You could say it's wrong because to do so reduces the victim to their biological, physical animal core, and stripping their humanity is not just in itself wrong, it precludes the clean application of a moral judgement in the future.

Even in the case of killing someone we've decided is "bad", no matter how bad the victim might have been, all of that falls away when they are threatened with inescapable death. So it's not ever justified.

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Why is that?

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Right? I want to live in a world where politicians campaign on destroying jobs, not creating them.

Speaking of that, it's been a little while since I've heard anyone claim to be a big "job creator".

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I'm just a big toasty cinnamon bun that isn't fatally trapped in a crevice.

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"Mountain climbing" is a generic term. It doesn't refer to a specific activity. I've climbed plenty of mountains. Half of them were a nice, leisurely 1-3 hour hike requiring nothing more than a free afternoon, a water bottle and a day pack with a couple snacks.

I'm kind of confused by the responses here. Idk if you guys just need to go outside more, or maybe I'm just spoiled, as at least half of the cities and towns where I'm at have at least one local peak. A lot of them are glorified hills with a good view. Many of them don't even have a view, but it's still fun to go up, be in nature, and see the different habitats, zones, and natural features as you go up. This is a casual activity for a great number of people. Some mountains even have actual paved roads/paths that gently take you up, but I prefer trails, unless I'm on my bike.

"Mountain climbing" doesn't have to equate to Everest/K2/etc. There are a vast number of levels to it. There are still dangers to what I do at my preferred level, but the life-threatening stuff typically only happens on much bigger mountains.

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What do you think about the fact that Google Pixel phones are being confiscated in Spain if they have GrapheneOS installed?

This is the second time I've come across this story.

If you look closely, random people are not being taken aside for being seen with a Pixel as the headline would have you believe.

What is true is that Graphene OS on a Pixel is a popular, easy setup that can't be cracked open with Cellebrite et al., and that makes the piggies very sad. Methinks someone wants readers to fear using Graphene OS.