Spyke
kbin.social

Someone who ordered oat milk to begin with shouldnt have any troubles navigating the world of milk.

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lemmy.world

Eh. Oat milk is really popular for some reason. It could very likely be the only other milk they know. If someone was drinking rice or soy milk though then yeah I don't know how they wouldn't be familiar.

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lemmy.world

I tried soy milk before I tried oat milk because soy was the only cruelty free milk I knew about. But I eventually tried all the varieties and determined that oat milk tastes the best.

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Oat milk tastes like oats. Which is good if you want to taste oats, and bad if you want to taste anything else.

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It's pretty good. Creamy, not too grainy or anything, tastes pretty good with the vanilla and doesn't use nearly the amount of water crop wise.

But also I can cook with it.
But I do look forward to if that yeast milk ever makes it to market.

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Pipocareply
lemmy.world

Soy milk is great, but it's not a good milk substitute.

It should taste beany, and that's not really what I want with my cereal. A Chinese cruller, on the other hand...

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lemmy.world

"that's a lot of choices"

Stfu and pick one. You sitting there having a casual conversation on your couch. Meanwhile the driver just standing there in the milk aisle staring at their phone for 5 minutes while you want to know all the options and hem and haw.

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XanXicreply
lemmy.world

If the Dasher is standing in line at Starbucks waiting for an answer that makes it 10x worse lol

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scottywhreply
lemmy.world

Says who... I delivered for doordash for a while in a medium-ish sized US city and lots of people did exactly that.

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You don’t see it as often as you see fast food because groceries were added later than restaurants. People think of it as “eating out with even less effort”

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feddit.de

Having someone else stand in line for your fast food is so incredibly absurd I still can't get my head around it

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Whilst this only applies to a minority of people who use these services, if you're disabled, having someone else stand in line for you is a godsend.

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Even the supermarket pickers don't bother. They just grab whatever is a white liquid and at hand.

There's like a 20% chance you're getting PVA glue.

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Yeah. But, I always try to be polite and treat delivery workers politely as possible. People are so rude that even "good morning. How are you doing?" Is stuff that none ask them.

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lemmy.world

Life pro tip: If you are vegan and lactose intolerant get oat milk. Out of all the alternatives that one tastes the closest to the real thing by a country mile.

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anarchristreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

Idk, I never figured out the bags. Poked one with a straw, but when i set it down to get a cookie, it just like spurted milk, like a mortally wounded animal bleeding out.

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crawleyreply
lemmy.world

Oat milk is also the best for the environment by an unironic country mile.

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Just think about the difference in producing Soy and Producing Oats.

Oats are cheaper, more widespread globally (farmed in most climates) around the world and require less water. Obviously it would be the better option.

That's not to say that Soy milk isn't good. It's just not as good

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

My grandfather farmed both soy and oats, but I wasn't aware there was a drastic difference between the water consumed. Now I know. Sucks because I really think soy has the best texture and flavor, but I'm not that picky

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Don't worry too hard about it. Even partial reduction is great. Personally I'm just a vegetarian.

Everyone does their part somehow. Don't let purists discourage you from reducing to the level YOU are comfortable at

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

Thanks for the encouragement! My main thing is I have celiac and severe lactose intolerance. I can drink that lactose free milk, but I prefer to drink plant milks. The one I've tried to avoid is almond milk, after my discord buddy explained how wasteful it is to produce them.

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Almond milk uses tons of water compared to other plant milks, but still much better than cow milk at least.

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-46654042

I have a hard time finding oat milk without added sugar, and I also find it expires much faster than almond milk. I get unsweetened oat milk if I think I’ll be able to go through it quickly enough otherwise I have to dump like more than 50% which feels like a waste in a different way.

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Oh yeah almond milk REALLY is not an eco friendly option. Your buddy is right on that. It doesn't help that Almonds are usually grown in countries that are poorer, exploiting them and draining them (even more) of their water supply without paying them.

There's an entire metaphorical water mafia going on that effectively steals water from third world countries while using underpaid (and sometimes even slave) labor. Almonds are one of the things said water is used for.

Even from an animal rights perspective that's messed up because of human mistreatment.

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I tried oat milk. While it tastes good, IMO it tastes nothing like milk. The closest description I could give for the taste being "cereal juice"

It's an interesting cooking ingredient though. Certainly has its own unique flavor. It's also a nice refresher drink.

My biggest gripe with oat milk is that it isn't as "filling" as the alternatives. It's a drink, not a food. So when I try to 1:1 use it as a substitute it can leave me feeling sick (example, my morning coffee which I load with milk to get me started)

TLDR: be mindful of the fact that it's VERY different from milk, even if oat milk tastes good.

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kWaztreply
lemmy.world

I'd recommend not substituting 1:1. If you go easy on the oat milk to coffee ratio, you'll have a better experience. IMHO, oat doesn't alter the taste experience of coffee as much as the other stuff, which is my foremost reason for preferring it.

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Oh I like lots of it. To a point I make my coffee stronger than most people just to counter how much I dilute it using milk. Think like a 50% water 50% milk ratio. Sometimes 70/30 if I feel like having it stronger.

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pawb.social

I love oat milk in my coffee. It's got a good texture if that makes sense

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pawb.social

Listen I’m a trans woman so “mouth feel” has a specific connotation haha

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The way I'd describe it is that, compared to other milk alternatives, it is the has the most body.

ie, think of it being closer to full-fat milk than to non-fat milk. You'll notice that the taste lingers in your mouth a bit longer. (body can refer to it lingering for various reasons, but in this case, I think it's fat content, like in milk?)

Another one with a body you might like is rice milk.

fwiw taking a food tasting or wine tasting or coffee tasting class is fun; can pick up taste descriptor words: https://winefolly.com/tips/what-is-wine-body-and-how-to-taste-it/

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lemmy.world

Soy milk has actual soybeans in it though and therefore better nutritional value in most cases.

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lemmy.world

I think almond is closest - but that's shit for the environment, so oat it is

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PeWureply
lemmy.ml

It fascinates me how they are getting almond milk.

Poor almond cows.

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Almooooo

Shut up Almeera you fat cow. Now let me squeeze your almonds.

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feddit.de

Imagine your job being to shop for richer people and have to write them because of something like that. What a time to be alive.

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pawb.social

It’s the same problem as all the other ride share companies. They don’t pay their drivers enough and they massively over charge customers. Drivers get no benefits and have to use their own cars while DoorDash makes a fortune. It’s disgusting greed and it doesn’t help restaurants either

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Yea, but it helps me eat a cheesy gordita crunch when I'm drunk at 1am

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sh.itjust.works

Over charge how?

I know a few things could be pennies more expensive on the items in store. They often lack deals found on Native apps.

it's usually cheaper to buy on doordash here than from the restaurants own app. I did get 3 years free DoorDash plus or what ever from Amazon Prime though, I likely won't renew the subscription.

The only rip off is suggesting a 5 dollar tip on a 20 dollar order. Always tip $0.

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dingusreply
lemmy.world

it's usually cheaper to buy on doordash here than from the restaurants own app.

What the hell kind of bizarre place do you live in?

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They do that elsewhere as well.

The problem is that apps like Doordash also increase the price of each item individually. So if you order from the restaurant itself, the sandwich might be $10 and fries might be $3. But if you order from Doordash, the sandwich will be $12 and the fries will be $4, then they have delivery fees, AND have all of these other extra mystery fees and then paying the delivery driver on top of that.

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sh.itjust.works

No.

The prices for Pizza Delight are the same on thier app and on Door Dash.

Pizza Delight has a 7.99 delivery fee here.

Door Dash has no delivery fee but a Service charge of 2.5%.

Door dash is the clear winner.

The only place I seen with larger mark ups on in store items is Loblaws. That's what the frequent 50% and 25% coupons are for though.

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lemmy.world

DoorDash were listing restaurants without their permission on the app. So a bunch of restaurants would either get orders they couldn’t fulfill, or DoorDash would just tell customers not to order there because they were unavailable, despite not being given permission to list them in the first place.

DoorDash is a brutally scummy company. Genuinely one of the worst service economy companies going around.

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I think Uber that exploits their workers about the same, while also racing to get autonomous driving available no matter how many accidents happen to be quite a bit scummier.

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lemmy.wtf

Prancer does modern dance

Vixen is a model

Comet is a programmer

Dancer is professionally tiny

Cupid is a couple's therapist

Donner is a very specialised party planner

Blitzen is a photographer

Olive is an oil magnate

And Rudolph is a mine shaft inspector.

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vikingreply
infosec.pub

Not everyone busy it as a milk substitute. I buy it because it tastes nice, and don't bother with alternatives.

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Yup, I keep a carton of oatmilk in the fridge for coffee (and occasionally to drink on its own, but it’s full fat so it’s rather caloric), and a carton of good ol’ cows milk as well. I don’t need it as a milk substitute, I just like it!

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I just thought up a great business model and it's five times as exploitive as doordash plus we could roll it out for Christmas. By the time the novelty has worn off we should all (and by we, I mean everyone who isn't working for or using the app) be rich. Who wants to help me build doordance?

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droansreply
lemmy.world

That's ridiculous.

DoorPrance would eat its lunch.

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Ooo do we get to dance to The Doors? I love doing that. It would be even better if I got paid to do so!

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kbin.social

I genuinely wonder who skimmed milk is made for.

If you can't drink whole milk due to the fattiness, you'd surely just drink semi-skimmed milk (2%)

And if you couldn't drink it due to the lactose, you'd just go for milk alternative.

So who is skimmed milk for? Who's buying it?

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jasondjreply
ttrpg.network

People who are still afraid of dietary fat from the anti-fat craze of the 80s and 90s.

If you’re watching weight, cutting calories from milk of all places is the worst place to do it. At least from whole down to skim. All the healthy stuff actually just so happens to be in the tasty part, the cream, since milk does these thing of mixing the ”sugar” into the cream in the form of Lactose. Cutting that out just leaves you with a worst-tasting, less nutritious beverage aside from the fewer calories.

If you want fewer calories but still have nutrition, soy is the way to go.

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Grassreply
sh.itjust.works

The soy would be great if they made it less salty. It's usually much cheaper than cow titty juice in my region.

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jasondjreply
ttrpg.network

I’ve found the shelf-stable tetra-pak versions usually have fewer ingredients. Trader Joe’s brand here in the US is just soybeans and water.

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I forgot those existed. I don't have trader joes but I'll check the relevant section for equivalent products next shopping haul.

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Why not go for buttermilk instead? The brunt of those dietary fats they are so scared of is in the butter...

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lemmy.blahaj.zone

It's cos it tastes better in tea.

I don't like the fatty bit in tea. I like it in coffee, but not tea.

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But why not 2%/semi-skimmed? You get the milky flavour, but not as fatty.

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literature.cafe

It is healthier.

Stop drinking fat water you literal babies.

You don't need trace nutrients from cow titties, you need to eat some goddamn vegetables.

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I don't like coffee so I just drink hot water with cream and sugar.

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skulblakareply
kbin.social

Fuck that, trace nutrients from cow titties are goddamn delicious and I will not be shamed into drinking the sad calcium-water wannabe that is 2% or skim milk. I will drink my whole milk loud and proud, fuck the fat content. My bones are smiling at me, Imperials, can you say the same?

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There is really nothing better than whole milk on a bowl of granola for breakfast. I wasn't a whole milk fan until I had kids and tasted what whole milk was like on cereal and in coffee. Plus if you actually have a cup of whole milk, it's so satisfying and filling, it's practically a meal substitute.

Now there's no going back.

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Consider I've joked that skimmed milk is water dyed white, I can't help but laugh at whole milk being called fat water haha

Wouldn't you be better off drinking a milk alternative if you wanted a healthier drink? Oat milk is healthy and environmentally friendly(-er)

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But why not 2%/semi-skimmed? You get the milky flavour, but not as fatty.

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lemmy.world

I haven't drank milk in decades but before I quit I was drinking skim because the milk with fat made me nauseous and it tasted better. Eventually even skim milk made me nauseous. Fortunately I have always liked my coffee black. Although I cut out caffeine a few years ago so now it's black decaf on a rare occasion. Yeah I'm fun at parties too.

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Th4tGuyIIreply
kbin.social

To be fair, that sounds like an intolerance to milk/lactose, which is a pretty good excuse for cutting milk out your life.

Probably not worth pointing at now, but have you considered trying milk substitutes. Oat milk is pretty good - I keep some at home cause I like both it and regular milk.

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Yeah I don't miss milk and cheese doesn't bother me. I don't drink high calorie drinks, just water or carbonated water most of the time.

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pawb.social

If you're on a low-fat diet ordered by a doctor for some sort of health reason, or maybe if you simply prefer the taste of skim? I can't imagine anyone preferring it, but people do enjoy some strange things so maybe.

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Th4tGuyIIreply
kbin.social

That would be a valid reason, but that wouldn't explain the massive volume it sells at.

Seems from the comments here that some people do actually prefer skim, can't fathom why, but they do

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My mum does, it’s all she’s had my whole life. She would buy us full cream and her skim. She is skinny and ripped af for her age. I drink soy and oat now and she brings her own milk to mine when she visits lmao

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I once had a roommate from India who saw "got milk?" on a carton, and thought it was goat milk.

That's actually pretty confusing if you haven't seen the commercials.

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Bopreply
lemmy.film

Eh, I outgrew human milk at a pretty young age actually.

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They won't sell it to me when I asked :(

I do like the packaging though.

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lemmy.world

Leave the Activision-Blizzard break room and go to a store. Might have better luck

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Oh no....in there they have nut milk but not almond... It's another kind of nut.

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Soy milk is the only non-dairy milk I've tried that comes close. It's not 1:1 but it's good enough to be used with cereal and not be super weird at least. And the vanilla flavored one isn't bad as just a drink.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

This is interesting to me. I attracted a number of downvotes too when I said I like soy milk. Maybe this is one of those things like pineapple on pizza that's very polarizing ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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pawb.social

There are a strange group of people who look down on others for eating soy because they think it contains enough estrogen to make you trans or something.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

Oh yeah. I didn't think there'd be many of them here though, but I never really understood that in the first place!

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There are a number of federated instances that have no join requirements. People can just join them without an admin approval. So they join and lurk for a few weeks downvoting things they don’t like and then they go on a spam spree posting racist or violent content, before swiftly being banned.

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Soy has always been my favorite. I mostly drink plant milks on cereal, and I feel like it works better flavor-wise and has the creamiest texture, but ultimately different people have different tastes.

I've never tried a variety that tasted bad at all -- oat, flax, cashew, rice, hemp, whatever -- they all taste good to me.

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If they're getting oat milk they probably don't want any of those, except maybe almond. There's soy milk which tastes like shit, hell, there's even hemp milk

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Th4tGuyIIreply
kbin.social

Neither do oats or soy, but here we are drinking their milk

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Personally I order oat milk but I only do so because I prefer it and I think it's better for the environment; I will gladly take regular milk if it's not available.

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Almond milk tastes good too... Soy milk (when unflavored) I don't like much at all. I'll take any in Vanilla or Chocolate flavours tho.

I only drink Cow milk of all the options bc it's cheapest per Litre.

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lemmy.wtf

There's also literally every other mammal with the possible exception of platypi. Nobody knows what the fuck is up with those freaks and anyone who claims otherwise is a liar, high or a high liar.

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chatokunreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

They have milk. They just sweat it instead. I learned about it in a documentary about what two kids are doing during their 104 days of summer vacation.

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Cow titty juice. You can call anything anything. If enough people say it then it's correct. It's like how the word 'literally' gained an extra definition of 'not literally'. Unless you are speaking France French, then the government decides or something.

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Honytawkreply
lemmy.zip

Nah, the joke just comes off as gatekeeping in this context

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Gatekeeping... Milk?

Please go outside. That's one of the stupidest things I've heard in years to be overly sensitive about.

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