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Trump’s latest 'manic' binge evidence of 'neurological decline': psychologist

On Tuesday, a widely cited psychologist took to YouTube to raise the alarm regarding “more highly concerning behavior” from President Donald Trump. According to Dr. John Garrison, Trump’s recent actions suggest “steep neurological decline” and a dangerously “manic-like state.”

Garrison began by playing a clip from a recent Fox News interview, in which Trump declared that the price of oil is “going to go down like a rocket.” According to Garrison, “There were two neurological issues in this very short clip, both of them verbal. One is that he's having speech planning issues, saying ‘going down like a rocket.’ Obviously, that's combining phrases. He's having a hard time organizing his thoughts. And second is an involuntary vocalization.” Here Garrison replays the clip, noting an abrupt sound Trump makes, explaining, “The pathways that deal with language are disrupted. We are seeing serious issues with language with President Trump.” What’s more, Garrison asserts that such vocalizations are “relatively new.”

In the interview, Trump begins talking about the midterm elections, saying, “I'm going to campaign like I did for myself and I'm going to hope that people think that I'm on. And if I'm not on, if they don't go out and vote, if they go out and vote, we're going to win easily.” As Garrison notes, “What he's saying makes absolutely no sense. He cannot organize his thoughts. He gets confused and he believes what he's saying is coherent. But it truly makes no sense.” According to Garrison, this struggle with verbal planning can be evidence of underlying “neurological issues.”

Here Garrison points to Trump’s pupils, which have remained dilated throughout the interview. “Trump is in a very bright room for this interview,” says Garrison. “You can see the lights actually reflecting off of his eyes, and what should be happening is that his pupils should be constricting rather than dilating because when there's too much light in a room, your pupils get smaller, not bigger.” According to Garrison, “Dilated pupils like this can be from a wide variety of reasons, but it's not just something that happens,” and likely culprits include medication for something like incontinence, Parkinson’s disease, or seizures.

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SillyMereply
piefed.social

until he is either dead or in a vegetative state there will be room for decline

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bedwyrreply
piefed.ca

To be fair, that's not true at all. Only 30% of the primary electorate are his base, evangelicals mostly, other religious nutjobs, business dickheads, and so forth.

It's a lack of a seeming alternative that is the problem. But no, don't listen to me, I'm sure Jeffries and Schumer will right the ship of state! /s

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Optionalreply
lemmy.world

I mean, I don’t disagree Jeffries and ol’ Chuck are screwing up bigly, but when election day comes - debate has ended y’know? It’s trump or not.

Last election I was really disappointed with some people who couldn’t face the thought of voting against trump. People who presumably were immediately and lastingly oppresse by his brand of incompetent fascism.

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bedwyrreply
piefed.ca

While I've always shared that sentiment to some degree, I've always known it was doomed to fail without a change in party. It's become all too obvious that the people that rejected voting all along, were right all along, I hate to say it.

And I say it as someone the encourages people to vote and always votes, against the worse candidates.

But let's not lie to ourselves, unless we get better candidates the non voting people are not entirely wrong. It means nothing in the medium let alone long term, we end in the same place with the controlled opposition in power every other cycle.

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I hear you, but the ‘better candidates’ phase was the last year culminating in the recent primaries and there was approximately zero chatter on Lemmy about that. There was 100% more chatter about a certain mayor of a large city where most of us don’t live.

This is either ignorance of the local politics or standard-issue laziness, and it usually manifests as ‘all politicians are terrible; i refuse to vote’, which we should know by now is support for the fascists currently in power. In fact that’s how we got here to start.

So no, I disagree that the non voting people weren’t entirely wrong - they were entirely wrong, and expecting their favored candidate to magically show up on the ballot without any pre-primary support doesn’t change that totals in Congress make a huge difference as so many items fall along party-line votes.

If they choose to abandon democracy entirely- ok. Then they abandon the notion that change can or should happen. Because that’s how change happens at a national, societal level, right?

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Being dead or in a vegetative state both seem to be viable states for holding office in America.

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I assume whatever is going on with mcconnell is a test run for the big day.

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lemmy.ca

Yes.

He should not be in that chair, and every day that republicans enable and warship worship him is both abuse and gross misconduct.

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jaybonereply
lemmy.zip

And we see how they played it with Mitch McConnell, so I’m guessing they’ll pull the same shit with Trump. Even the dems did this with Feinstein. So it’s really par for the course in this broken system. Will be interesting to see how cool they can play the game and pretend not to be worried this guy has his fingers on the nukes.

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Wakkoreply
hell.cloud

It's par for the course for as long as the people choose to allow it to continue.

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Doomsiderreply
lemmy.world

It's par for the course for as long as the wealthy people choose to allow it to continue

FTFY

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Wakkoreply
hell.cloud

Incorrect. Spoken like someone who wasn't around to see Los Angeles in May of '92.

The French invented a solution to the problem of rich decadent assholes in 1789.

The people decide when this ends.

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Doomsiderreply
lemmy.world

What did the Los Angeles riots accomplish again?

80%+ of executions by guillotines were commoners. Is this the solution you are talking about?

Looks like someone is romanticizing violence.

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There's plenty of scholarship on the topic. There are a number of judiciary-side changes that arose out of the LA Riots.

And no, violence isn't romantic. I was in Seattle in '99 for the WTO affair. Violence is simply an unfortunate necessity when power accumulates into the wrong hands.

Billionaires are perpetrating extinction-level ecological crimes against humanity. They won't voluntarily stop. So, it is incumbent on the rest of us to remember that politics is comprised of three boxes - soap, ballot, and cartridge. When the first two fail to curb tyranny, we must resort to the third box because self-defense is a basic right of all living beings.

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He shouldn't have even been allowed to run, and Aileen Cannon should be in prison right next to him.

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discuss.online

As much as I LOATHE him, he is nothing but a mouthpiece. There are numerous people/entities controlling him and the things that are getting done in the government. I don't actually believe that he has any power to make anything happen. I think the people who are controlling him are making things happen. First of all he's not that smart, and second of all he's obviously in cognitive decline I wouldn't be surprised if he even knows what day it is. And even after he is gone however that is the powers that are controlling him are going to control the next puppet of the Republican party. So even if he croaks tomorrow and the couch fucker is in there nothing's going to change.

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Fascim is there to stay regardless of what happens. Dumbass retard Americans think that they are going back to "normal" after his passing. The only place they're going is to the camps.

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lemmy.world

So even if he croaks tomorrow and the couch fucker is in there nothing’s going to change.

Too many people are oblivious to this obvious assessment. :/ You're one of very few I see who share that opinion. The think if the orange pedo croaks the world will miraculously be cured. Spoiler: it won't.

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The christian nationalist have been planning this for a really really long time. The have spent billions on propaganda. I'll never understand how people are so fucking stupid to fall for it. The hate they have created for any type is progress is astounding.

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Fascim is there to stay regardless of what happens. Dumbass retard Americans think that they are going back to "normal" after his passing. The only direction place they're going is to the camps.

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reddthat.com

Been reading articles like this since 2015, pretty sure Trump is going to live to be 115 years old the way it's going

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piefed.zip

It started in 2015; the articles and commentators pointed out the famous longitudinal study of nuns that found that loss of vocabulary was one of the early indicators of dementia, and that his vocabulary had noticeably shrunk ("big" and "beautiful" taking over for many other adjectives). It was during his first term that somebody pegged it as frontotemporal dementia specifically.

Keep in mind the difference between "he's dying" and "he's lost it." With this form of dementia, a person's life expectancy after (early) diagnosis can be many years. Six or seven years from the first clear symptoms to the stage we see now is not atypical. I'm not a doctor, but my educated guess is that he won't croak for several years yet, especially with an elite medical team providing treatment, but he probably won't be coherent enough for a third term, even by MAGA standards of coherency.

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I mean, the ghost of McConnell is still holding office and we've basically just moved past that as a country. I think they could run Trump's leaky corpse and it would be a close election (even if it was a fair and real election)

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I lost someone close to me to frontotemporal dementia (FTD). He was relatively young at onset: early 50s. He started forgetting tasks at work and getting lost driving on routes he'd frequently taken before. From the time of diagnosis until his death was about seven years. It was a horrendous experience seeing him decline like that. He rapidly lost his ability to speak. Shame the progression hasn't gone that way with Trump. It seems Pig Boy is having the other common form of FTD, where the first thing to go besides memory is inhibitory functions.

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but he probably won’t be coherent enough for a third term, even by MAGA standards of coherency.

The Republicans will do what everyone does when the President is incapable of preforming the duties of political office.

The Staffers will run the Country or maybe the VP will run the Country.

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In fairness, he has been in decline since before the presidential run and we have seen him get worse in front of our eyes.

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That’s because anger/resentment is a great motivator to live.

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He's obese, so by today's standards, he's incredibly unlikely to make it to 100.

Then again, as he's clearly done a deal with the devil, I wouldn't be surprised if he's the rare exception.

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quokk.au

They never needed him compos mentis to execute their plans. Just alive and filling the chair.

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smeenzreply
lemmy.nz

Looking at the Mitch McConnell situation, they don't even necessarily need him to be alive.

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lemmy.world

Whatever. Doesn't matter till he's dead or gone. Preferably both. Tired of being hope baited into thinking any of this will lead to a measurable outcome.

"It don't matter. None of this matters." -Carl Brutananadilewski

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Not just him - the ideal is that MAGA will simply collapse without their leader. The issue with that is we've already cemented a LOT of power into the executive in just a few years. Trump could drop dead tomorrow and despite having the charisma of an open can of surstromming, I think Vance would be able to hold onto power just through an overwhelming tide of repression. Trump's caught up with people loving him - Vance, I think, doesn't care if people hate him.

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Corvidaereply
lemmy.world

I think it's important for the midterm elections. It's important that folks who care, get out and vote.

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Yes, I'm SURE the Democrats will spring into action! Chuck Schumer is gonna put his glasses SO far down his nose once he's majority leader . . .

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Voting matters 100%. Another article saying he's on the verge of death is what I'm lamenting.

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Breaking news of his sharp decline have been filling the YouTube airwaves every week for the last 2 years, maga has been fracturing every other day, his allies have turned on him every 24 hours and his administration has been on the verge of collapse every refresh of the algorithm.

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deftreply
lemmy.wtf

I will say though it does seem like his supporters are falling fast. The most ardent supporters of his I know have suddenly been saying very negative things about him

There's also a dude who had a huge trump sign in his yard for years, like a big wooden one he clearly made himself. He took it down.

Another guy had a huge FJB and a bunch of pro trump signs outside like real crazy anti vax kinda shit, a lot of them. All gone.

Not saying they're all done but they're clearly showing signs of regret and embarrassment. Hammer the shame now while we can and maybe they'll keep themselves shut the fuck up for the next 10-20 years

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The regret and embarassment won't last long past orange's dying. Watch them jump onto the next puppet, the problem isn't just the current figurehead, it's always been who's behind him actually driving the machine, and the 77M idiots who supported him and who are your neighbors, because they bought into what orange represents and they will defend the next one by comparison (won't be hard to find a more mentally competent dude than 47...)

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I live in one of the reddest counties in one of the reddest states in the south. When I say it's red, I mean registered GOP outnumbers all of the rest of the registered voters here almost 2:1.

You still see them on trucks occasionally, but I've not seen a Trump flag or sign on a house in over 6 months. One house on the route to take my kid to work has taken their Trump flag down after having it up since 2015 and replaced it with an American flag.

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Which is kind of interesting since the mid terms are coming up. I wonder what the results will be. 4 weeks to go.

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Those same people were foaming at the mouth about how Bush was Jesus. Those same people were foaming at the mouth that Obama would build mandatory mosques and force them into hijabs.

They forget their own bullshit as soon as they stop spewing it.

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Well, he does turn on his allies about every 24 hours, but for reasons I will never understand some other sucker fills the role immediately.

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Sackettreply
thelemmy.club

Yeah but has he been SLAMMED by a milquetoast center left politician yet? Has he been BLASTED by a journalist asking a softball question? Once we start seeing those headlines, things will change for sure!

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lemmy.world

I skip anything where the description or title uses words like SLAMMED, DESTROYS, SHREDS, SCORCHES EARTH (just saw one of these) because they never really do.

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lemmy.world

Person with ears and eyes finds Trump is a narcissist with dementia, ~33% of the population don't give a fuck.

Jesus could roll out of the clouds and disavow this pedo / rapist, and they'd call him a false prophet.

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lemmy.world

At this point, a dead Mitch McConnell is more effective at governing than Trump.

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Corvidaereply
lemmy.world

Yeah, I think so too. Vance, Vought, Miller, Heritage Foundation et al. are propping up a president with dementia because it's to their advantage with regards to implementing their radical-conservative agenda.

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Jaysynreply
lemmy.world

They aren't conserving anything. It's just fascism.

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to be precise, it's authoritarian oligopoly. Fascism has a few key characteristics missing from this - mainly the threat of worker's revolt/communism and a large amount of war veterans moving away from liberalism.

Doesn't mean it's not disgusting and shouldn't be overthrown immediately. But 20th century European fascism has a different context.

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It's just fascism,

They don't conserve anything,

And the whole cult cheered!

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lemmy.world

He has not progressed. He has always been insane and a pedophilic rapist. People laughed at the time, but his own quote of saying, "I am a very stable genius" is something only a very unhinged person could even think of saying.

Every trait people are worried about now is what everyone that was labeled as having "Trump Derangement Syndrome" have been warning about and calling out for a DECADE

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sh.itjust.works

Pedophile? Yes. Rapist? Absolutely. But you can't tell me the giant diaper baby hasn't "progressed." Watching him campaign for his first term is like watching a different person with the same script. The content was still heinous, but it was delivered with more competence and coherence. Now, he stumbles, mumbles, goes off track even more. He's progressed, he's not well, and should never have been seen as competent for this second term. He is a puppet. A loud puppet, putting on a show, while strings are being pulled in the background.

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BooBeesreply
fedinsfw.app

And this is him on the most expensive, the newest, the best, and the most experimental medicine the world has to offer to slow the decline.

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And that really is a sign of our current knowledge of how to treat issues in the brain. Humans are very good at surgery and some well known and well used medications, but are very bad at the brain.

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No. He has never been coherent and has always communicated at a fourth grade level. All he could do was insult people and shamelessly lie. He also never had any coherent points on policy or any answers beyond general, one word adjectives, "strong", "bad", "rigged", etc. We all found it funny because it was so outside the norm that we didn't take it seriously.

This is deliberate and, as ANOTHER Nazi point, exactly the Public relations path that Hitler had.

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Somebody called him a "veritable genius," but he didn't know that word, so he heard "very stable," and had to tell everybody.

Same with Excursion for Incursion, Bigly for Big League, etc. He's profoundly ignorant, and virtuosically incompetent.

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lemmy.ca

Isn't there some kind of protocol for when the guy in charge is malfunctioning?

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The vice president has to invoke the 25th amendment and then needs a majority of the cabinet. The president can fight it and then it takes a supermajority in both houses to not get kicked out.

So not going to happen. There was speculation for a bit if the reason for a Trump/Vance ticket (to everyone but Trump) was that the campaign and superpacs were betting on a 25th and Vance taking over.

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Well yes, but the thing about Republicans is that they don't have to follow any rules. He could pull a Mitch McConnell and nothing would be happening.

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lemmy.world

Yep! But it is 100% based on the honor system and people in power making choices that benefit the people instead of their own wallets. So we have one but it effectively no longer exists

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slrpnk.net

I wouldn't be surprised if your maga party didn't pass a law that a corpse can be president

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I'm pretty sure we've had a corpse senator in McConnell for a couple of months now.

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There is no end to the things they would do to keep him in power. Nothing they do surprises me anymore. They are easy to predict. Just go with every first thought you have about anything no matter how horrible.

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Can we get rid of all the boomers from all governments in the world already? I wanna see a world where we're fucking "represented" by our regular ass peers?

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sh.itjust.works

Funny how we're going to switch from his people praising him and everything he says and does as proofs of his genius to claiming that this hero suffered from a mental disease "near the end", and we shouldn't criticize him for that, that would be unfair, cruel, immoral. The line from genius to mentally-ill will continuously move to include everything they want to keep and exclude everything that's too unpopular. Timeline won't matter at all.

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Hi. Former psych ward orderly here. Mental illness and disability in general don't care what your ethics are, they're equal opportunity life-ruiners.

So don't feel bad about calling an evil person evil if they're disabled. Don't make excuses for them if they're actively trying everything in their power to destroy the world. Don't try to chalk up their bad decisions to their disability.

There are millions of people who have the same disease(s), and most of them aren't supporting war crimes, let alone committing them. Wheelchair or not, fistful of pills or not, their actions determine their nature. And Trump's nature is unrepentant, naked evil.

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This is giving me "The Man In The High Castle" vibes. It's a show about an alternate dimension where Hitler won WW2. The show starts with everyone figuring out Hitler is ill and going to die soon. There will be a power struggle when it finally happens.

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piefed.social

Can it decline into a fatal aneurysm or heart attack? Please, Santa?

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Christmas is too long. Can we ask, eh, the Equinox... Elf?

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lemmy.world

We've let death cultists chose policy for us for decades, so how is a death cultist with his own cult a significant departure from our standards?

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Any true death cultist will tell you: all the other death cults are fucking lunatics.

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lemmy.ml

Or maybe he's a moron and a ¢unt, just like he's always been.

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lemmy.world

he's still your president

you elected him

he's what represents your country

he's a stupid child rapist

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eh, to be fair to USA people even though they are the worst people on earth, their elections are corrupt and fixed by the way they draw districts and manipulate ballots. It isn't a democracy in any meaningful way.

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lemmy.world

Another European who thinks having a bigoted view of all Americans somehow makes them better than the bigoted Americans. Idiots.

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lemmy.world

you think if someone is not american they're european?

stupid yankees..

anyways, how is pointing out you elected him bigoted?

you did elect him and he is your president

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lemmy.world

European was the easiest guess without having to learn more about you ( something I have zero interest in based on your negativity) Obviously the point was that you are blaming every American for the actions of a cult. You are not better than me because you have the privilege of not living here. You are definitely not better than the people who voted for him because the way you speak is just fucking like them, ignorant as fuck.

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lemmy.world

Accusing me of not reading is hilarious. You clearly didn't read what I wrote or you don't have language comprehension skills to deduce reasoning. If you can't see the problem with blaming every American for the actions of the people who actually DID elect them, then you are part of the problem...part of the problem that affects the human species as a whole, not just the people behind certain boundaries. Calling me gay doesn't really hurt someone who has sucked dozens of dicks btw.

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lemmy.world

no one else in the world would be this insulted and jump to defend their country after being told their president was elected

no one exept americans

you hate your own peers so much you don't even consider the president as your president

I repeat, no one in the world acts this way

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Why would I give af what other people act like in other countries with completely different lifestyles? Again you are using Trump supporter logic. I never said i was insulted because you said he was elected or whatever the fuck you are trying to say with your word twisting. I said I was insulted because you lump every American in with Trump supporters. Yes I do hate my peers THAT much (and now you too) because they are sub human scum who are in a cult. I hate them so much I want the entire cult to do a re-creation of what happened with the cult in Jonestown (look it up you ignorant European) see doesn't feel so good for someone to assume your intelligence level based off of geography, does it? Serious question....Do you think being a p.o.s in another country somehow makes you better than the pieces o.s. in my country? Have you ever heard the phrase, "You take yourself wherever you go."? I bet you have and I bet you despise that phrase as much as I despise the way you and all the other biggots of the world think. And yes I know you are not European and no I still don't care where you are actually from.

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Um yeah you definitely insinuated that was and thought I would be offended by that. Do you think you can just twist the words until you squirm your way out of looking stupid?

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lemmy.world

I didn't say you personally voted for him, I said you elected him, thus the importance of knowing how to read

and yes you did elect him

you guys bomb countries, kill innocent fishermen, steal ressources, kidnap presidents

but god forbid I tell you Donald Trump is your president, that would be "negative"

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a widely cited psychologist took to YouTube to raise the alarm

This truly is the stupidest timeline

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Children were abused,

The perps get away with it,

Who’s really in charge?

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lemmy.world

Been hearing about this "steep decline" for years at this point.

When are we going to see some results?

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Only decline I really care to see is six feet, straight down.

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A steep decline can appear gradual when ypu have access to the best doctors and medicine.

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My initial thought. I'm sick of seeing the same desperate headline repeated ad nauseum. Either give me the news that he croaked, or I'm gonna stay assuming he'll run in 2028, with a worryingly non-zero chance of winning. And he will continue not-dying throughout the remainder of that term.

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I'd retract the given status if I could, but that's a slippery slope to some pretty dire evils that I don't think are worth or necessary to cross into for now.

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On the one hand: no shit. I’m sure Trump is having serious mental decline.

On the other hand: is his nonsense talk really evidence of this? He’s been saying nonsense shit that doesn’t make sense for the last 12 years.

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lemmy.zip

Just keep reminding myself that people voted for this guy, then for Biden and then for this guy again, there is really no escape

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outerspacereply
lemmy.zip

American people on average, but they are not the only ones in the world with this problem

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lemmy.world

Do you live in the USA? Nobody voted for both Trump and Biden. Maybe thats not what you meant?

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outerspacereply
lemmy.zip

I didn't mean the same people, I meant on average

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lemmy.world

Oh ok I see. Well Biden was really the only option if you didn't want Trump. Voting for a 3rd party was throwing your vote away and basically giving it to Trump.

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I guess at this point people in power has figured out the way to manipulate the outcome enough for the common sense to not matter anymore, and just coming the vote and voting is not enough, see afd in Germany.

I'm not saying it's a conspiracy of a secret world power though, they are just finding out what works, and what works is all bad (and trump is worse than others)

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Who does this psychologist even think he is? Not like congress or the senate will listen to the experts or anything.

/s for the cognitively impaired.

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We keep hearing this. We don’t need more evidence that he is unfit to be president and the worst president of all time even without all the symptoms. What we need to know if there is finally something done about it. Why the fuck won’t Americans do something about this? Home of the brave my ass.

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lemmy.world

They could use their professional expertise to issue a statement bringing Trump's precipitous psychological decline to wider public attention.

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lemmy.world

Oh...

They could?

On Tuesday, a widely cited psychologist took to YouTube to raise the alarm regarding “more highly concerning behavior” from President Donald Trump.

Next you're gonna say someone should write an article about it, then post to a link aggregator...

Then people should discuss in the comments.

I agree, I just think people should read the article first buddy

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lemmy.world

If we can't beat reddit for user count, we should at least be able to beat their low bar for parsing obvious sarcasm.

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I love an optimist, but honestly I've gotten burnt a lot here not including the "/s".

Like, that was pretty thick, but there's always a chance it gets missed.

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