Swede here, no one in Sweden has ever served meatballs with white sauce of any kind (no idea what it is) and dill...
Highly doubt the meatball ingredients are even close to correct either.
Accurate but I was trying to expand beyond "Americans using food words wrong". (Also, "wrong" is culture purity nonsense in this context. Food and language evolve and that's fine.)
You're right that prescriptivism is fundamentally nonsense, but it's been more than a decade and I still put airquotes on "pizza" when referring to it around Pittsburgh, because I don't want to mislead visiting relatives
Or you know, watch the comment section of most Spanish omelette or paella videos. I'm there on the omelette comments btw, it's not that fucking hard why does everyone fuck it up.
I'm Spaniard, I know. The thing is that Spanish omelette is a potato omelette, even though people then add other stuff to the base. They don't call it tortilla de patata, they call it "tortilla de patata y X". The only variances are the density of the omelette and if it has a little bell peppers (or more than a little, goddammit Biscay) or not. Anything else isn't a "tortilla de patata".
I'm not saying that it will taste bad, it just isn't the thing. There are plenty "tortilla de patata y chorizo" and such, but you would never add chorizo or chatka in there and call it a "Spanish Omelette".
I would be surprised to find anything but the basic omelette if I order a "pincho de tortilla".
Regarding the paella, I'm not from Valencia so I won't push back that much there, but I know that usually if you diverge from the standard Valencian paella, you state it in the name, like a galician "Paella de Marisco" and such.
Dude, people claim that putting bacon on a paella is traditional. No it fucking isn't. It will taste fine but it fucking isn't.
I'm sure you have a national dish known elsewhere that locally has plenty variations, but everyone agrees that the basic version is X.
I'm guessing it's a white gravy instead of a brown gravy, so colored from cream and flour. I've only ever had brown gravy and lingonberries with my swedish meatballs, but then I've also only ever had them at Ikea which I'm sure isn't the best representation.
Seems like they probably skipped the broth. Looks basically just beschemel, though, being generous, it may have a bit of mustard, sour cream, and/or some herbs mixed in.
I ate at a restaurant that did this once. The kids menu had "spaghetti with meatball" which they got a kick out of.
It was the size of my fist. They served my single-digit age children like a 3/4lb meatball each. They still tell tales of the legendary meatball to this day.
Where to even start... Pathetic, overpriced and I doubt that the quality of the 'meat' balls meet even supermarket quality, or even IKEA. The garnish should be beetroot salad and the bread a baguette. At a minimum.
A crime against common decency, a culinary affront and a cultural offence.
Yes, I think you're right, that's probably what they were going for.
So Swedish meatballs is served with "brunsås" (literally "brown sauce") which is a gravy or roux made from the leftover fat in the pan after you're done cooking the meatballs. I've never seen anyone do a white roux for meatballs. This is then served with boiled potatoes, lingonberry jam, pickled cucumber and often steamed carrots.
The gravy is however never served on a meatball sandwich! That's a completely different thing. Another user mentioned that it's supposed to come with a beetroot salad, which I'm personally not a fan of, but it would be weird if a "Swedish Meatball Sandwich" was anything other than that.
In general though I'm fine with people taking creative liberties with food, but you'll have to put some heart into it.
Also mildly infuriating is the lack of crosspost button so I can add this to ![email protected] — I guess it only appears when the post originates from a piefed instance?
Sorry, I have no clue what that is. Mobile or web?
If it’s mobile it could be hidden behind the share button. If it’s web… idk tbh. I mostly use mobile. But I’ve got both Piefed and Lemmy accounts (been trying out Piefed on occasion) and I’ve been able to crosspost between the two, but I did notice federation is a bit slow
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Swede here, no one in Sweden has ever served meatballs with white sauce of any kind (no idea what it is) and dill... Highly doubt the meatball ingredients are even close to correct either.
It's Minnesota, they are more scandanavian than Scandinavia, I don't trust you
Boo, Swedish meatball sandwiches have meatballs and beetroot salad.
That looks so good. Definitely another Swedish meatballs I've tried. That looks 100x better.
An American claiming America is better at scandinaviaing than Scandinavia, is the most American thing I've heard in my life.
First off I'm Canadian, and secondly America isn't, but Minnesota is.
Wasn't expecting that
Minnesota is a part of America, hence my wording.
Any food in the US that's qualified with will typically baffle anyone of said nationality.
That's true in every country, you should see "pizza Americana" or "American fried rice".
Hell, it's true just traveling across the US. Try "Phildadelphia Cheeseteak" a few hours' drive out of Philly. They'll ask if you want marinara.
Accurate but I was trying to expand beyond "Americans using food words wrong". (Also, "wrong" is culture purity nonsense in this context. Food and language evolve and that's fine.)
You're right that prescriptivism is fundamentally nonsense, but it's been more than a decade and I still put airquotes on "pizza" when referring to it around Pittsburgh, because I don't want to mislead visiting relatives
Or you know, watch the comment section of most Spanish omelette or paella videos. I'm there on the omelette comments btw, it's not that fucking hard why does everyone fuck it up.
You know that there's basically one paella recipe per Spanish village, right (if not more)? It's probably the same for tortillas.
I'm Spaniard, I know. The thing is that Spanish omelette is a potato omelette, even though people then add other stuff to the base. They don't call it tortilla de patata, they call it "tortilla de patata y X". The only variances are the density of the omelette and if it has a little bell peppers (or more than a little, goddammit Biscay) or not. Anything else isn't a "tortilla de patata".
I'm not saying that it will taste bad, it just isn't the thing. There are plenty "tortilla de patata y chorizo" and such, but you would never add chorizo or chatka in there and call it a "Spanish Omelette".
I would be surprised to find anything but the basic omelette if I order a "pincho de tortilla".
Regarding the paella, I'm not from Valencia so I won't push back that much there, but I know that usually if you diverge from the standard Valencian paella, you state it in the name, like a galician "Paella de Marisco" and such.
Dude, people claim that putting bacon on a paella is traditional. No it fucking isn't. It will taste fine but it fucking isn't.
I'm sure you have a national dish known elsewhere that locally has plenty variations, but everyone agrees that the basic version is X.
Bacon does seem a bit extreme, I'll grant you that.
They're only fucking it up if they're trying and failing to make a specific thing, not just because they thing they make offends you.
Reminds me of how Germans still have this image of America being full of cowboys with six shooters on their hips.
Fellow 'muricans: if you ever get a visitor from Germany, take them to a Wild West reenactment. They will NEVER forget.
Can verify, extremely baffled.
I'm guessing it's a white gravy instead of a brown gravy, so colored from cream and flour. I've only ever had brown gravy and lingonberries with my swedish meatballs, but then I've also only ever had them at Ikea which I'm sure isn't the best representation.
If you served this in Sweden you'd get angry side glances and passive aggressive snorts.
I'm assuming the same can be said about USA with this particular sandwich lol
My bet would be just plain confusion - "why are you calling them Swedish meatballs if you don't make them like meatballs are made in Sweden?"
bet it’s the same cum they put on their cinnamon buns
Looks like a Polish thing, pulpety w sosie koperkowym.
Seems like they probably skipped the broth. Looks basically just beschemel, though, being generous, it may have a bit of mustard, sour cream, and/or some herbs mixed in.
That's much more than mildly.
I mean, it's called a meatball sandwich, not a meatballs sandwich. You're lucky you got two of them! /s
It looks like there's 3 to me. Practically gluttony.
I ate at a restaurant that did this once. The kids menu had "spaghetti with meatball" which they got a kick out of.
It was the size of my fist. They served my single-digit age children like a 3/4lb meatball each. They still tell tales of the legendary meatball to this day.
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Well it’s got one meatball. Serves you right for not ordering the meatballs sandwich.
Looks like 3 meatballs to me?
No, those are meat ellipsoids. Only one of them qualifies as a ball.
That's not a sandwich. That's a piece of bread that got fucking trafficked.
Where to even start... Pathetic, overpriced and I doubt that the quality of the 'meat' balls meet even supermarket quality, or even IKEA. The garnish should be beetroot salad and the bread a baguette. At a minimum.
A crime against common decency, a culinary affront and a cultural offence.
So someone decided that this is the sandwich they would sell to the public and said this is fine?
If it had more meatballs, sauce and such, it has a chance. But the picture is sad and dismal, why not complain?
Billionaire stadium owner showing how much he cares about the fans.
Non-existent portion aside, that looks disgusting.
As a Swedish person I have no idea what that white goo is. I wouldn't touch it, and also I wouldn't touch that bread.
I think it's a version of swedish meatballs.
https://www.artandthekitchen.com/swedish-meatballs/
Yes, I think you're right, that's probably what they were going for.
So Swedish meatballs is served with "brunsås" (literally "brown sauce") which is a gravy or roux made from the leftover fat in the pan after you're done cooking the meatballs. I've never seen anyone do a white roux for meatballs. This is then served with boiled potatoes, lingonberry jam, pickled cucumber and often steamed carrots.
The gravy is however never served on a meatball sandwich! That's a completely different thing. Another user mentioned that it's supposed to come with a beetroot salad, which I'm personally not a fan of, but it would be weird if a "Swedish Meatball Sandwich" was anything other than that.
In general though I'm fine with people taking creative liberties with food, but you'll have to put some heart into it.
Fair enough. American bread is a step above styrofoam.
I did have a really hard time finding good bread when I visited the USA, but I'm sure there are excellent bakeries if you know where to look.
That's just some bread with jizz on it
And pickles! Jizz 'n Pickles would be a wild band name.
Must be a ska band
Frankly I think this would justify homicide
that bread looks like foam
Also mildly infuriating is the lack of crosspost button so I can add this to ![email protected] — I guess it only appears when the post originates from a piefed instance?
There's federation issues between piefed and lemmy currently. It's not like this normally.
Crossposts is definitely an option for Lemmy posts as well. What client are you using?
The pwa
Sorry, I have no clue what that is. Mobile or web?
If it’s mobile it could be hidden behind the share button. If it’s web… idk tbh. I mostly use mobile. But I’ve got both Piefed and Lemmy accounts (been trying out Piefed on occasion) and I’ve been able to crosspost between the two, but I did notice federation is a bit slow
PWA is short for progressive web app. It's the website plus a little extra browser magic so you can save it to your phone's home screen.
This might give you botulism
This would be "midly" if it was a $5 gas station sub
Assuming that's real, it would be totally justified to throw it against the wall and demand a real sandwich
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At this point they are trying to insult you.
To be fair, it only said "meatball" and there's at least two of them instead of only 1.
Nahhhh please tell me the guy bought it back and asked for a refund, because that's terrible even for stadium food lmao
mildly?
What the heck is this shit!!just make ur own at this point
Feeding this little is a war crime in more civilized societies.
Guess beef prices have hit everyone
Lol
#technicallycorrect
What is that even supposed to be? Even if the bread was full of whatever that is it would look disturbing.
no no that's a mistake, they can fix it or take it back that's just insulting
So exotic!
I dislike shrinkflation, but this is egregious!
Meatball sandwich. Singular. One meatball.
Technically correct, but legitimately rage inducing if this is really what you get for 15 quid.