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lemmy.world

If you don't like onions you should try cooking them in butter on low heat for 30-45 minutes until they're a deep amber and mixing them with sour cream, a bit of mayo, salt and pepper, and a pinch of cayenne pepper. Boom, caramelized onion dip.

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This is genuinely good culinary advice. Thank you for sharing. I may try it soon.

That said, you bastard! You took all the delicious mustard gas tingle out of the onion! Poor ex-delicious onions.

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ColeSlothreply
discuss.tchncs.de

Yeah. Raw onions are just about the only food ingredient I absolutely can't stand to eat. But I love sauteed onions. I work at a fire house and do a lot of the cooking on shift. If anyone bitches about a lack of onions, I tell them I'll add onions at the same time I add Habaneros. I love crazy hot stuff, but contrary to popular firefighter belief, most of the guys are huge weenies when it comes to spicy.

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Same actually. But I later discovered the reason why I don't like raw onions is because I have an allergy that gives me migraines when I eat them. Cooking them is fine and delicious though.

But yeah, used to be teased incessantly by family for being "Picky."

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teslekovareply
lemmy.ml

Why do I keep seeing removed instead of some words? If anyone removed about a pack of onions?

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8uurgreply
lemmy.world

Your instance (lemmy.ml) has a word filter - words in the filter get turned into removed.

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teslekovareply
lemmy.ml

Anyone know where the banned word list is? I am having trouble finding it on my phone.

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lemmy.world

Most probably server-side, since any of a variety of clients can be used to connect to the instance.

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teslekovareply
lemmy.ml

True. I'm a doofus. I meant I have a hard time finding it because my mobile browser interface simplifies the site. Oh well, time to actually put pants on to solve this problem.

It's like the Dark Ages.

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I'm saying that the word list is probably specified by the instance admins in the settings of the instance server, and isn't accessible to users. Lemmy.ml is known to be rather opinionated. However, I'm not familiar with the settings of a Lemmy server firsthand, so can't say for sure.

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typoreply
sh.itjust.works

Here's the comment. Not sure what words would have been filtered

Oh, rereading, the b word

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goosehorsereply
lemmy.world

You probably know this since you work in a kitchen, but a buddy recently taught me that the trick for taking the edge off raw onion---e.g. to put on a salad or burger---is to soak the slices in cold water for a few minutes. Keeps the sweetness and flavor, but seriously reduces the sulfuric burn!

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ColeSlothreply
discuss.tchncs.de

Nope. Had no idea.

I'm a firefighter. So I only sort of work in a kitchen. Whenever I'm the one making dinner for us all.

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goosehorsereply
lemmy.world

Lmao I'm sorry, the caffeine was hitting and my reading comprehension failed me --- I saw "fire house" and interpreted that as the sub shop.

Thank you for your very important public service and for keeping your crew fed!

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ColeSlothreply
discuss.tchncs.de

Lol that I'd tell people at fire house subs to fuck off if they asked for onions. Man, that'd be great!

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In my mind, you're the one in charge of doing the "cooking" tasks at a fast food place, you're probably well within your right lmao

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webheadreply
lemmy.world

I used to be that way. I think you'll eventually find that you like them. Not enough to take a bite out of a raw onion but being cool with them on a burger at least. Sometimes stuff like this just clicks for me as I get older. No idea why lol.

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Odds aren't that high at this point. I'm not all wrinkly, but I'm old enough to remember the before times, when the Internet didn't exist.

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They grow some onions that taste good raw (you can eat em like apples) but they are expensive

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No, that's not how that works. Your own personal experience is fine and valid, but try not to make the assumption it's true for anyone else.

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lemmy.world

Yeah, anyone eating cold red onions can suck a dick. But I'll suck a dick for a good onion dip.

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lemmy.world

You never had raw onions on a sangwich? Red onion especially, very tasty raw.

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PunnyNamereply
lemmy.world

I have. I prefer not to put things in my body that it rejects. Cooked is fine, raw is not.

You gonna put fermented Greenland shark in your food just because I was able to eat it?

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Ahh, I forgot. I'm too distraught over the eclipse being overcast in Reykjavík to think straight.

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I have eaten the shark, yes. It definitely smelled worse than it tasted.

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Hapankaalireply
lemmy.world

You haven't lived until you've tried some fries with special sauce (mayonnaise, spiced ketchup and raw onion). Diabetes and heart disease included for free.

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OwOarchistreply
pawb.social

A bit of hot sauce or balsamic vinegar is way better. And healthier.

(And lol at every fucker out there who thinks they invented some magical special sauce by mixing mayo and ketchup together. Like nobody's ever thought of that white trash culinary masterpiece before.)

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lemmy.world

Mayo and balsamic instead of mayo and ketchup. Or if you're doing artichokes, both

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Just biting into a raw onion by itself is psychopath behavior but you gotta have raw onions on a proper Italian sub.

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Try putting those red onion in water and vinegar (with a pinch of salt and sugar). They'll become a deep red/purple and loose all acidity, gaining a sweet and vinegary taste. You can keep them in there for quite a long time too if done correctly

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lemmy.world

Absolutely. I would say that not liking onions is a bit of an illusion though. They really are in everything and are so elemental to cooking. I think if people understood this better they wouldn’t fear onions so much. Sometimes fear of onions is also part of a generalized “zero seasoning” palette common among some older white Americans, where even black pepper is considered “spicy” and most food is totally flavorless and usually cooked to a pulp. It’s not about growing up… this palette is just missing out on so much happiness in the world. Being just a tiny bit brave with food is a wonderful decision to make in life.

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sopuli.xyz

It is mostly a texture thing for me, and I doubt I am the only one. I do not mind the taste that much, if it is onion powder. But even tiny chunks of cooked onions make me gag when they crunch on your teeth. Absolutely disgusting. If I have to eat something with onions, I will pick out the pieces, no matter how tiny they are.

(Yes, I am autistic.)

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lemmy.world

True they have a sort of gummy texture that pops when you bite into it. I love that personally but I can see it’s a matter of taste. Does that mean you enjoy fresh cut onion in a salad (like bits of red onion in a Mediterranean salad) or fresh cut onion on a burger? Much more crisp texture. Just curious!

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No, I do not like the raw crispines either! It has almost the same crunch, just with a lot less sliminess. Though with raw, the taste is also too strong for me.

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Dozzi92reply
lemmy.world

Is his name Carm in the show because he's caramelizing from first episode to last, and finally becomes the onion we all love?

I am halfway through s4 and it's boring so I stopped watching.

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lemmy.world

If you judge what other people eat

You should try: Growing the hell up

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lemmy.world

I would agree, but my sil used to only eat chicken nuggets and canned green beans. In their family growing up, food was not for enjoyment, it was strictly for calories. Both her husband and I have been working on expanding her palate (we got her hooked on gyro a few years back. That was a happy moment for her family).

We don't and didn't judge her, we just wanted her to be able to enjoy nicer meals. Her husband is a great cook, so he's gotten to vicariously experience amazing foods for the first time again. I would be envious, but I get this experience with my nieces and nephews (only four of them have parents who can cook well). It's a great feeling, sharing delicious foods with loved ones, and also rubbing in your siblings' faces that their kids aren't picky when you cook for them.

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lemmy.world

not entirely sure. our [not understanding why she didn't like food that tastes good] probably felt like judgment at times, even though we didn't want it to.

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Nah. I'll judge the fuck out of dudes pushing 40 who still can't cook anything other than instant ramen.

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I judge people for what they eat every time I put a foot in a Target.

Let’s normalize shaming adults who eat like five year olds.

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Fei
lemmy.blahaj.zone

Fructan sensitivity 🥲 I appreciate the flavor they add, buuut don't appreciate how they digest in my body. I carry food enzymes with me when I'm out though- kind of hard to avoid when I'm not the one cooking. I do want to try adding them to my oil infusions sometime!

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piefed.zip

Yeah completely valid here. I got corn intolerance so samesies. I should see if they sell enzyme pills for that.

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lemmy.world

I've never heard of that. do you live in the US? I can't imagine living here and not being able to eat corn derivatives

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piefed.zip

Not only do I live in the US but I also really like mexican food which manages to be even MORE corn-centric.

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lemmy.world

Pro tip: Turkish and Central-Asian food like shawarma is basically Mexican food but with wheat.

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I'm genuinely curious, not being a jerk. I love Mexican food, I love Mexican American food, and I love Turkish food and all the central Asian food I've tried I enjoy.

But I can't figure out what in the world you mean. Like which specific dishes are the same but with wheat?

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lemmy.world

Not entirely same, of course, but shawarma and burrito are imo similar templates that can be used with various fillings. You can have shawarma with beef or chicken, etc. You have some cheap local vegetables: where I am, it's typical to see tomatoes, cucumbers, onions, maybe peppers, cabbage, or carrots. Of course, rice, guacamole and salsa are unlikely in a shawarma, but mayonnaise and sour cream can be used, the latter of which is afaiu encountered in burritos. And for myself, I've been making a fusion dish of shawarma with rice, chicken, and various local vegetables.

Likewise, foods using pita or leavened lavash, e.g. gyros, can be seen as templates similar to tacos.

Personally I'm surprised that lentils aren't used more often in shawarma and similar foods, given Middle-Eastern liking for fava beans and chickpeas — although reportedly falafel can be found in shawarma in some regions. Then again, I'm pretty sure I've used sautéed peas or beans when making my mishmash burwarma.

Apparently the al pastor method of meat preparation is directly derived from doner kebab, having been brought to Mexico by Lebanese immigrants — although it uses pork instead of lamb or beef, since Christians didn't have restrictions about it.

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Could be along the same lines as my fructan sensitivity. Corn is high in sorbitol which some can have intolerances or sensitivity to. Some people can get away with a small serving and certain processed forms, while others have to avoid it altogether. I think it's one of the few FODMAP antagonists that doesn't have an enzyme yet 🥲 Could also be something totally different! They would also potentially be sensitive to peaches, apricots or other foods with pits or seeds in them if it was a sorbitol sensitivity.

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This, so much this. I turn into a walking war crime if I happen to eat any onion, no thanks.

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lemmy.world

Onions have their place, and it's diced so fine they're practically molecular.

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Raw, carmelized, fried, pickled, grilled.

There’s so many ways to eat onions and they all taste different. Someone who just ‘doesn’t like onions’ is like someone not liking potatoes…which version and what do you not like??

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I love onions in stew, or in gumbo or jambalaya - some place where I can't see 'em, and certainly don't have to chew through them.

otherwise fuck onions lol

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lemmy.today

Seriously, pre caramelized actually! But I will add chopped onion too. Also garlic powder, and actual garlic. They taste different and both are good.

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I never considered caramelizing the onions before drying and powdering them.... I'll have to set aside some of our garden haul for that

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Tikiporchreply
lemmy.world

It's not the same, and deep in your heart you know that, too.

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lemmy.world

Oh I know it's not the same. It's infinitely better. Any recipe that calls for onion gets an onion powder substitute in my kitchen. It gets the job done for my recipe, doesnt feel lacking, and does so without making the food inedible and making my kitchen reek.

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BCsvenreply
lemmy.ca

Try dried fried onions. They always have them at Indian Grocery stores, or dutch shops.

You can skip whole steps in recipes of browning, caramelizing onions for sauces , stews, etc just dump a few tablespoonsfulls in. Also makes excellent brown gravy base with some soysauce and Marmite.

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lemmy.world

when I make salsa I just throw the tomato, peppers, onion, tomatillo, cilantro, coleslaw, and a drip of lime juice in the food processor and let it chop for me.

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lemmy.world

This is my wife... I then had to explain to her multiple times that yes you do like onions and also garlic. I know this because over 90% of the things I cook include one or the other or both!

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Tbf that's totally different, it's just a tiny bit, it's like saying that if you like ketchup you also should like tomatoes, it's not the same

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As a person that generally dislikes onions, it's different - I'm not a fan of onion flavor and don't like the texture, but I know it can positively contribute to a dish for me, primarily if it's not overly prominent.

It's like seasoning, eating some seasoning alone might make it taste bad, you might dislike dishes that use it as a main flavor, but if it's just a small component of a dish it might be a good thing. I haven't had marmite, but from what I've seen it seems kinda like that, very strong offputting flavor that complements other things very well.

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For me it's primarily the texture. I do like the flavor of onion as long as it's not overpowering. Cooked or not, biting into onion is like nails on a chalkboard but on my teeth. If it's chopped up small enough or powdered I don't have a problem. When my wife makes food with bigger pieces of onion, she makes them big enough that I can pick out.

For a long time, though, I would just say I don't like onion and try to avoid it altogether.

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yes, it's dishonest of her to say that she doesn't like them, when she clearly does like them as an ingredient

nobody said they were hiding the ingredients from her, grow the fuck up

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lemmy.world

I love onions but OP needs to fuck right off with dictating how other folks should deal with food.

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If you are into people vomiting on you, go right ahead.

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grrgylereply
slrpnk.net

Wait but does the paper towel thing work?

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Can't say with certainty, though I have heard it recommended to me by someone who should know.

However, my preferred trick is to place the cutting board near an extraction fan, set said fan to high, and trying not to bend too much over the cutting board while chopping my onions.

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pawb.social

I didn't like onions as a kid, turns out my mother just sucks at cooking.

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I thought my parents' cooking was great, until I grew up and started cooking myself, and discovered I had a talent for it. Now I realize my parents couldn't cook at all.

Now life is reversed, and I'm taking care of my Mom (Dad's gone), and I do ALL the cooking.

I still despise onions though. That wasn't my Mom's cooking, I just despise onions. And green peppers.

It isn't about growing up, onions just taste terrible to some people, the way cilantro or asparagus tastes bad to some. I know a guy who is fine with onions, but feels the way I feel toward them about CUCUMBERS, of all things. They basically taste like water, but he can't stand to be in the same room with one.

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I have a minor allergy to onions and can only eat them without suffering if they're caramelized or otherwise thoroughly cooked.

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Can confirm. Didn't like onions as a kid, always thought they were useless and added no flavor to a dish. Got older, learned a bit more about how to cook them and now I like putting onions in things.

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When I met the woman I ended up marrying she thought she didn't like onions. It took some time, but finally she understood.

Now she is a much better cook than me and knows that onions go in just about everything. Her French onion soup is amazing.

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I always liked onions in things. In fact I liked all things kids were supposed to hate... Except for eggplant. I just don't like eggplant.

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BigDictionreply
lemmy.world

There has always been a lot of poorly cooked eggplant going around. It has a ton moisture that needs to be drawn out through salt and/or roasting and frying to make it not be mushy.

Cooked properly crispy it can be delicious.

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It also absorbs oil like crazy, so you have to be careful and when and how you introduce fats.

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Remove skin. Slice. Cook on medium heat until most moisture has been drawn out. Add olive oil, salt, black pepper and tomato paste. Serve with rice and grilled meat.

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kuiskaajareply
lemmy.ml

i once got in trouble at school for putting too much broccoli on my plate

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kuiskaajareply
lemmy.ml

yeah the teacher raised her voice and told me i should leave some for others (only like a quarter of my plate was broccoli and i only took one plate of food and u know... broccoli isn't the most popular thing out there)

she was a substitute teacher when our teacher was sick and was a bit weird in general. after her shifts at our class, she was never a substitute teacher for our class again so after she was gone i kept going as usual and nobody complained ever again xD

this was somewhere around grade 3 to 6, probably 4th or 5th

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feddit.org

Fuck you asshole, I love onions, but I'm allergic. After a major incident I have learnt to avoid them completely. Luckily this seems like a common enough thing that onion free versions of stuff are usually available.

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lemmy.world

I wanna know where you shop. I still have to run the gamut of 'I'm allergic to onions', 'does that include green onions?' '...yes.' among other key signifiera that people don't really think about what an onion is normally.

I really miss garlic.

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Thorryreply
feddit.org

Just regular super markets, perhaps I've just gotten better at finding the onion free stuff. I've also figured out for some items it says onion powder as an ingredient, but I have zero reaction. It might be just a tiny amount perhaps, not enough to cause a reaction. Or somewhere along the way the recipe changed and a onion substitute is used without them updating the ingredients list. I have also found out the hard way not everything is like that tho and have gotten reactions from stuff with onion powder in them, even in small amounts.

I still remember finding out I was allergic. Apparently my mom knew since I was very small and just made sure I never ate onions. She however never actually told me, or maybe she did and I forgot because I was a kid, who knows. Until I was a teenager and ate dinner regularly at my girlfriend's place. Not before long we ate a delicious rabbit stew, which also contained a lot of onion. I proceeded to be sick for weeks after. My mom laughed at me saying I was allergic to onions and I was dumb for eating something like that. I said she never told me I was allergic, but she was sure she had. I was so sick, I learnt my lesson and have avoided onion ever since.

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Huh. Yeah I have kind of a three strikes thing. I can eat something with onion powder once, but if I do it again withing a couple days it starts fucking me up.

I got officially tested as a teen. I'm also allergic to corn and apples, which are two other incredibly overused food additive bases. I actually didn't even really feel any effects until my 20's wgere all pf a sudden I was in an Emergency room in incredible pain. It took taking the allergies seriously to clear it up because otherwise there was apparently no other explaination for why I felt like I was turning inside out every few days.

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lemmy.world

I can't eat raw onion or anything in the onion family, and onion powder appears as a flavouring on a large percentage of snacks.

Cooked onion is ok though, once it's translucent. Took years to figure out what was triggering the migraines.

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Yeah it sucks. I can't eat cooked onions as well as raw or powdered. I do a little bit better with green and red onion in small amounts. But it's a risky proposition, so I rather avoid the completely.

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The image doesn't apply to you because you don't don't like onions.

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lemmy.world

Tell that to my gut. You get onions in there, mushrooms, etc I'll be absolutely crippled with cramps, gas, and worse.

I'm glad people love onions. I don't even mind the taste. But you know what I like more? NOT being stuck in agony on the toilet for hours.

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You have my condolences.

I know people with SIBO, heard all kinds of stories, hopefully yours turns out for the better.

When I heard they can't have onions or garlic in the first phase, which is insane!

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startrek.website

I loooooove onions.

But... FODMAPs... Ugh.

No more onions or garlic or mushrooms for me except for a once in a while splurge and regret.

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lemmy.world

Wait garlic and onions are high fodmap foods?

I am going to have to laugh at the next MD who thinks they know what I should eat better than I do. They always recommend low fodmap.

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Yeah the whites of all onions and their cousins are high fodmap. Green onions are ok in moderation, and the green parts of leeks.

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Bluewingreply
lemmy.world

Hey, hey there Robert Kennedy, just settle down and take your ivermectin. Your brain worm is acting up again.

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fireweedreply
lemmy.world

As much as I'm on team pro-science, doctors are not omniscient, and lots of people have the experience of needing to direct their medical care at some point in their lives. Blindly accepting medical advice can be just as harmful as "doing your own research," as any woman who's gotten the old "have you considered that you're faking it?" or "but your labs are fine so..." run-around can attest.

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Doctors are well aware they are not omniscient. They know they are more knowledgable and experienced than you, but they aren't perfect. They can only do so much with the information that the patient gives them. And patients, like it or not, are not always the most reliable sources of symptoms or medical information. And sometimes all the testing you can do might not reveal the correct diagnosis. At that point, what do you expect a doctor to do?

Look, I'm not a doctor nor have I ever played one on TV. Hell, I didn't even stay at a Holiday Inn late night. But I did spend 15 years in the back of an AmberLamps seeing patients at their worst moments in life. Or at least what they thought were the worst moments, (sometimes it was just another Tuesday for me). I've seen a lot of doctors work up close and personal. Some were great, almost all of the rest were good, and a few were bad, (I actually witnessed a Medical Director of the ER come down and fire a doctor on the spot once). But they all tried hard and gave 100% everyday.

The patient/doctor relationship is a two way street. And weirdly, patients very often are unwilling to hold up their end of the relationship. That means you must speak up for yourself. Ask questions, refine your symptoms together WITH the doctor, and give input into your treatment plan and listen to replies. And understand that that healthcare provider may not have all the answers you are looking for.

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lemmy.world

that worm died and you know it

/uj they tend to recommend i eat foods i'm allergic to, because they refuse to read medical records. US doctors are effective at regurgitating information but not actually thinking through problems.

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I sincerely hope that worm died from acute alcohol poisoning caused by tequila as is traditional.

You need to pick a single doctor and stick with them. Going to see whatever random doctor that only has a few minutes to be with you is most of your problem. That doctor doesn't have the time to read through your, by now extensive, medical charts from end to end. And no, that's not all due to the US medical system, (though that bluntly doesn't help), because there simply far more patients in this world out numbering all the doctors that are available. Find a single doctor and stick with them as long as you can. Doing so will cultivate a relationship that grows and gets better with time. That will pretty much end most of your problems.

And if you must see a different doctor, they will straight up ask you why you are there to see them today. This is your chance to tell them not only what is currently wrong, but since this is a reoccurring problem, what are some of the things that have been done that worked or didn't work in the past. That helps them immensely and they love patients that do that. If they are just "regurgitating" information it's because they can't read minds and have been reduced to guessing. The practice of medicine is a two way street.

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Food that gives you gas. The more veggies I eat the more I burp and fart.

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lemmy.world

I know the cilantro example is famous, but as a super taster and having other people with the gene onions are very divisive. For me, anything more than a hint is overpoweringly disgusting and the idea of actually biting into one directly fills me with dread.

Onion powder and garlic powder are both very preferable to the actual substance taste wise.

If you know someone in your life that really likes diet soda and other artificially sweetened things and even prefers it to the regular, they just might be a super taster.

If you know someone that finds wine, beer, tea and coffee horrifically bitter to the point that they can't even understand how you enjoy it. They may also be a super taster.

If you know someone that complains Seltzer's like white claw and lacroix are absurdly bitter and completely disgusting. That is likely because they can taste a profile called bitter two, which is prevalent in these things because they are a super taster.

I know nobody will read this and learn to quit bitching at people about what they like, but I figured I'd at least try.

Now that I'm done being reasonable:

Why don't you stop pussyfooting around with weak bitch shit like onions and actually use some real fucking spices from India and Mexico? Onions are for mayo loving losers afraid of burning their tender tongues, miss me with that shit.

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5318008reply
lemmy.ml

shit like onions and actually use some real fucking spices from India and Mexico

... but... India eats a lot of onions... because as great as the spices are, onions are also great. You can have both. You should have both.

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I tried some pickled onions from an Idian place near me and while I generally hate onions in all forms (except onion powder or onion flavored chips for some reason) I didnt realize how different they could taste when made in proper ways. I was literally eating them on their own by the spoonful because they were so good, never in my life did I expect that to ever happen. So while its prevelant in Indian dishes, it just feels like they know how to actually use them versus some plain disgusting raw onion chopped and added to like a salad or burger. Like anything there is always nuance, and that day I learned it ever applied to the eating onions lol

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moakleyreply
lemmy.world

I'm a super taster as well. Raw onion is a hard no for me, but caramelized onions are like a cheat code for making every meal delicious.

But you've got the artificial sweetener thing backwards. Super tasters tend to prefer real sugar and find the fake stuff cloying and unpleasant. I'd bite into an onion like it was an apple before I'd drink a diet soda.

Also, mayo is delicious.

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KuroiKazereply
lemmy.world

Really every super taster i know drinks diet,soda like it's going out of style. And cooking an onion works for people that are not super tasters but ones that are still usually overwhelmed from the small sample size I've met over the years.

Were you a smoker at any point perhaps?

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No, I've never smoked. I looked it up, and it seems the trend is generally that super tasters prefer real sugar over fake. Obviously everyone is different though.

But I can detect the faintest bit of artificial sweetener. It's very unpleasant.

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Echolynxreply
lemmy.zip

What if I love plain sparkling water, black (loose) tea, dark chocolate, unsweetened espresso? Enjoy the taste of plain (real, not American) bread with olive oil or butter on its own? Hate food spicier than butter chicken?

Am I a super taster or the opposite? I joke that I have the palate of a medieval peasant, though I'm guessing they wouldn't have enjoyed dark chocolate or undiluted coffee/tea.

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KuroiKazereply
lemmy.world

Opposite of me in almost every way lol def not a super taster

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Echolynxreply
lemmy.zip

Lol being a super taster would be hell for me if I already feel so sensitive to taste/scent.

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Yeah I don't love it sounds like a super power when all it does is make you not like popular stuff for the most part. There is however one upside which is when I eat something truly good my soul leaves my body and I fall through space and time. I call it a taste journey. Have to be vigilant to not get super fat haha.

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Warl0k3reply
lemmy.world

How are you for Mushrooms? Also a supertaster and I just cannot understand how anyone can eat them - they're so oppressively fungal.

Them and Jalapenos (nearly all pungent peppers in fact) are the two people always pull the "HoW cAn'T yOu LiKe It It'S sO gOoD!!" reaction with me...

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5318008reply
lemmy.ml

For jalapeños and other peppers, the pithy center is where most of the pungency comes from. It's also more bitter than the rear of the pepper. If you chop into quarters lengthwise, it's easy to cut the seeds and pith away from the flesh. You're the left with a milder, sweeter result.

... in case you're in an experimental mood.

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I appreciate the suggestion!

It's not the pungency that's an issue though, but the flavor of the pepper itself - it absolutely overwhelms every other ingredient in the dish with a quite unpleasant flavor, even when pith, seeds and ends have been removed. The same is true of bell peppers, though I find them less overpoweringly strong flavored. There are a few varieties that don't do it - Pequin peppers are quite munchable, as are bird's eyes, but the staple 'spicy' peppers in the US (ancho, jalapeno, habanero, poblano, aleppo, cayenne, tobasco, chipotle, etc) all unfortunately fall under the heading of "blechy" for me....

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Canned sliced button mushrooms are pretty easy to eat.

I mostly eat the fun kind of mushrooms which are very unpleasant to get down but worth the health benefits.

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I was never keen on them as a kid, only when I had almost purely raw uncooked onions did I start actually liking them.

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I tried that once but I cried the entire time. So did god.

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sh.itjust.works

Oh...now do the same meme but for blue cheese, cilantro, olives, kimchi, and sashimi!!!

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That's the exact same gene that also causes onions to be way overpowered and make them not like them. Source: have that gene

I don't know why people think that it so narrowly impacts just the way that cilantro tastes. It actually has a broad impact across many different flavors. There's a good chance that most of the adult picky eaters you've ever met are just people that carry this gene.

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Onions aren't the same, they have a mild flavor that blends with most everything. Cooking it with stuff can make them mostly disappear and just add a mild savory note. Eating caramelized onion on top is a strong flavor but most of the time it's melded in.

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DJKJuicyreply
sh.itjust.works

Green tea, red wine, and cottage cheese too.

And TOMATOES. What? I have personally met people who literally declare to the whole room that they're allergic to tomatoes, then chow down on pizza or fries with ketchup.

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Raw tomatoes are disgusting, both in taste and texture. Blend them up, cook the ever-loving fuck out of them and they become delicious.

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Oppopityreply
lemmy.ml

Raw tomatoes make me gag. I don't no why. But there's a huge difference between tomato sauce and tomatoes.

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Neither of those are as essential to food as onions though.

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RBWellsreply
lemmy.world

That is the most unfair thing I have heard today. I remember getting that list of potential migraine trigger and thinking it was every single food or habit anyone could eat or do. I know they are trying to make you feel some control but it always felt so blamey. Mine were mostly hormonal and not something I could fix but now managed with menopause plus a small dose of estrogen & progesterone, the same amount every day so no swings. Which leaves relaxation as my only remaining trigger. A coffee in the evening on Friday usually prevents that.

But onion? That is hard. They are so foundational to cooking.

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fireweedreply
lemmy.world

How is relaxation a trigger? I've never heard of that and am genuinely curious, because usually triggers are the opposite: lack of rest, overexertion, etc.

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RBWellsreply
lemmy.world

Mine always started with my period before, and I almost couldn't get one at any other time. But that time of month is a sharp drop in energy and progesterone, I think the relaxation is the same sort of thing - a sharp drop in stress will trigger a migraine, they come while I am sleeping.

I expect that if it were possible to be relaxed at all times it would not be all migraine, it's the change that is the problem.

Did have to give up fasting, that always did also result in a migraine but again, it only would start while I was asleep.

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Interesting, I wonder if it's a stress hormone withdrawal thing (kind of like caffeine withdrawal, another common headache/migraine trigger). I hope you are able to find a good balance! Not being able to relax sounds like it's own kind of hell.

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Both raw and cooked? I've heard some people can tolerate cooked but not raw. Either way that's a rough deal; onions are in so many dishes.

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If you're allergic to shellfish, grow the fuck up. If you still have blue eyes, grow the fuck up. If you were born in January, grow the fuck up.

See how stupid you sound?

Don't you think that if I could get over my revulsion of one of the most common ingredients in recipes across the entire world, I would? Do you know how much easier eating at restaurants and at other people's houses would be?

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piefed.zip

allergies are a lie spread by Big Sneeze to sell more epipens and antihistamines.

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mrgoosmoosreply
lemmy.ca

this is true. the relationship between my bowel movement health and my intake of onions is a coincidence.

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/uj there is actually an underground hookworm market where people suffering from server allergies buy worm laden feces to infect themselves with.

/rj diphenhydramine is a racket! Just buy sleeping pills!

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Oppopityreply
lemmy.ml

I agree that it's dumb because people have their preferences but comparing not liking someone to literally being incapable of consuming it is a bit much.

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I have a gag reflex when eating onions (and a couple other random things, like sweet pickles... I love sour pickles, btw). It's not a preference. My body physically rejects it.

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lemmy.world

I don't like fish. I have tried salmon, cod, tuna, sardines and a couple others MULTIPLE TIMES and my brains just refuse to accept any and all of it. I have tried it as a filet, in salads, on bread, fried, with onions, with whatever else in all sorts of dishes, even soups!

Doesn't matter. Brains go 'nope'. I'll keep trying it I guess until my brains no longer try to convince me fish are literal poison.

french snickering

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lemmy.world

I'm not fish averse, but my wife is. I have managed to make one fish she likes. Take a frozen Mahi Mahi filet, preheat air fryer to 400F, rub the filet with a bit of oil, and season with garlic salt, bit of black pepper, and a pinch of crushed red pepper. Place on the airfryer (still frozen) for 14 minutes, flipping halfway through. It should end up slighty crispy on the edges, moist and flaky inside. Finish with a good squeeze of fresh lemon juice (it's essential, don't use the bottled stuff).

Mahi mahi is the least fishy fish out there. It still has a fish texture, but tastes like meat. Not dissimilar to chicken.

But also, it's perfectly okay to not like something. Don't waste your money unless you really want to try it.

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Every time my mother decides to go on a diet, when we eat at her place she serves us fish.

She always loses weight on those diets because she overcooks her fish. It's nasty.

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Malycareply
lemmy.zip

As kindly as possible, it's just a joke, maybe a joke in poor taste, but a joke nonetheless. No one would say this seriously.

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Including onions, that's 3 out of 4 for me. Feels like being targeted a bit lol

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Einskjaldireply
lemmy.world

Cooking them too slow can do that, it's better to have less time and hotter. They stay slightly former and drier with more of a grilled texture. Adding liquids can make it act more boiled.

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SkyezOpenreply
lemmy.world

Fast and hot keeps them cwisp though, so if you don't like em slimy that's the play. I kept fucking up and making my diced peppers soggy until I learned that trick.

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There are multiple way and I disagree with some of the established methods. Slow can make them into mush if you add too much liquid. You can get them cooked and caramelized faster on higher heat, you just have to pay attention and know what you're doing. Really slow gets a result and it's easier but I don't favor it.

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mrgoosmoosreply
lemmy.ca

that's the great thing about onions, if you don't like them cooked then you can eat them raw!

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Or cooked for a short time on high heat so they're cooked but still crisp. Took a while to learn that putting a lid on my veggies was soggifying them faster.

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Children often just want sweets and unhealthy snacks, and it’s up to adults to make sure they get the nutrition their little bodies require. If a grown ass adult decides they don’t want to eat something, though, they likely have tried it and have their reasons for avoiding it. It’s really nobody else’s damned business.

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lemmy.world

I'm 40 and I hate just about everything about onions. I can't stand the taste the smell the texture especially.

The thing I have to grow up about is that there can't be food without them there would be no flavor. So unfortunate... I love food and I hate onions.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

The part about texture makes me wonder...what kind of onion do you mean exactly? Cause off the top of my head there's about 7 different preparations with vastly different texture and flavor profiles that come to mind

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For me, it’s specifically the cooked kind. Everything about cooked onions makes me gag.

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I eat 1/4 of a large onion per day. I'd eat a half, but I want room in the bowl for other vegetables.

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usually raw. I've been slacking on keeping a container of caramelized in the fridge. but a good amount are added to soups or noodle bowls etc so that's half cooked?

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You know what. I should. I should grow up. I already love onions. But this sends a message.

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I got Mongolian BBQ tonight (celebrations &c) and mine were like half noodles, half onions, and everything else was a seasoning including the lamb. Fucking amazing onions.

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If you don’t like durian, you should try growing up in a South East Asian family.

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If god gives you onions, squeeze them for onion juice!

Also, fuck lemon-cutting ninjas.

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if you are an extrenely picky eater, honestly your loss, thats probably difficult socially and a lot of banger foods youll miss.

making a big deal out of any adults personal preferences? total dick move. Why yuck on their yum, as they say. But ableist? In specific cases where its directly caused by a condition, sure, but lest be real for a sec, weve all encountered people that are picky because theyve never been exposed to new things. The 'i dont like it' before ever having tasted that dish, crowd.

and in that way, for example insisting on introducing new foods to children to broarden their pallette? Calling that ableist feels silly and unproductive in several ways.

my brain is crashing out a bit over all the blanket statements being thrown around here in the comments

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I got over the premptive "I don't like it" shit but I'm still a picky eater. I just straight do not like the taste or texture of a lot of things. My palette has expanded since I was a kid at least.

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Mmmmm nice slice of sourdough with duck fat (goose fat may also do, but duck is better) and onions with a pinch of salt 🤤

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Ewww, the texture of onions sucks ass. Even accidentally chewing a non-molecular piece inaide a mouthful of pasta makes me gag uncontrollably.

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Onions aren't garlic. Huh, turns out they are ...

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lemmy.ml

Remember kids: all shaming of "picky" eating is just socially acceptable ableism, and you should be fucking ashamed of yourself.

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Actually, telling me I cant call people names is bullyist and highly offensive to my culture. Maybe think about everyone you might be effecting first.

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BigDictionreply
lemmy.world

A yes a truly mortal sin worthy of deep shame in all those who commit it.

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lemmy.ml

Certainly a bigot is a far worse thing to be than a picky eater.

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lemmy.ml

"you'd better learn to like eating food your body will treat like poison so I'm not mildly inconvenienced" is...well that's certainly a take.

Why does everyone seem to have this insipid hate boner for people whose restricted diet is due to medical factors outside of their control but nobody gives people any shit for their 100% voluntarily restricted diets?

Where's this kind of energy when people eat Kosher? Or Halal? Or Vegan? Nobody's entire neurology is fighting against them breaking any of those food taboos, but they're generally respected by the same Normies who push for torturing neurodivergent kids with inedible food "for their own good".

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Grimdrakenreply
lemmy.world

No no, medical issues are fine, so are religious beliefs. Fussy eaters are immature dickheads.

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lemmy.ml

Yeah, "medical issues are fine but fussy eaters are dickheads" = "I am the sole arbiter of whether your disability counts or not". Because not every neurodivergent person is gonna give your their entire medical history to explain why your shit food isn't going to work for them.

I swear every Neurotypical alive would eat feces directly from a toilet if someone somehow convinced them everyone else was doing it and it would be weird of them to refuse.

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BigDictionreply
lemmy.world

Why should anyone be “fucking ashamed” of either side of this argument?

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lemmy.ml

Because anyone publicly displaying ableism really ought to be ashamed. But most of you secretly agree withost forms of ableism and so you'll never shame people for it. Case in point: you're here defending naked bigotry because the people being discriminated against are weird and/or childish in your estimation, so they obviously deserve the bigotry, or at least the bigotry is neutral.

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BigDictionreply
lemmy.world

Amazing how much effort you put into arguing on a shit post thread about liking fucking onions. 🫡🖕

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Amazing how easily you can dismiss casual ableism as "just a shitpost".

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