Wait. So is it a flex to wear shorts at 10? Is a jacket at 30? I'm so confused. That's like the mildest of temps. How about when we do yard work when it's 37.5c? Or go kayaking in 7c because like all those things happened are normal here. I was building a fire pit area today and it was 100° and earlier in the year I was on the lake kayaking when it was 45°.
I don't really get the hate for fahrenheit. It's a nice 0 to 100 scale for everyday weather temperatures. But also every 10 degrees is different enough that you don't even need to be precise when talking about it: "We'll probably need the AC today, it's going to be in the 80s".
I'm an American that's all for converting to metric but I would still use fahrenheit for weather since it's just so easy and convenient.
That entirely depends on where you live and what temperatures you're used too. I live in a hot part of Australia and absolutely wouldn't wear shorts in 10c because my body is acclimated to hotter weather.
It's also annoying when Europeans swap the comma and decimal on currency amounts too, especially given that you don't do that when writing sentences. Few things more infuriating than seeing an amount written out like 2.999,95€! Where are your manners!?
I see, that's understandable. We all have pet-peeves. Mine is the date format in the US that has spread month-day-year. Most of Europe is day-month-year and it's very confusing when people start adopting US formats because they watch so much stuff from the US.
IMO any date standard other than ISO 8601 is wrong too. Year-Month-Date makes the most sense from a chronological standpoint. Also makes sorting files by date easier.
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"It's so infuriating when people communicate in ways I'm not used to!"
Doesn't sound great.
According to ISO 80000-1, the decimal separator can either be a period or a comma, and no preference is given to either. Many American software systems support both (including the software I work on). It's really quite normal and mundane.
Where I live we...just use comma. So 2999,95. No reason to add useless separators in the middle, and if we do for clarity sake, we use space (2 999,95).
Wish everyone just followed the ISO norm. It dictates that you can either use a period or a comma as decimal separator. And for the thousands separator, just use a space.
We use, if needed, apostrophes or upticks. 2'999,95. No danger of messing up between . and , that way.
Also let's just wait until that person learns that not every country separates into blocks of 3 and how many options of mixing and matching there are in use.
Well like I said to the other person, it's not a "I think the US is superior" thing; very much the opposite. I simply have autism. (ADHD too but that's not relevant here.)
One of my favorite things about Lemmy is how many of us are in the autism/ADHD neurotribe, or at least have an understanding about it. We can read your response and be like, "Oh, okay. Yeah, I get where you're coming from" and roll along, without the need for senseless hostility.
Just another day, another misinterpretation - we've all been there. Carry on.
I'll give you my 2¢ on this: I like the dollar sign before the number. When I say "3 dollars" I see it as "$3" not "3$" and I don't see it as "dollars 3" unless I'm telling a riddle.
Just like with American date structure: I'll say July 26, 2026 and will see it as 07/26/2026.
(But when I put a date in files I go for YYYY/MM/DD format)
(Whoever created these systems had a funny sense of synergy lol)
To me putting it first feels funny. Euro 100, instead of 100 euros. While writing it you need to remember to put the symbol before writing the amount. Funny thing
Technically, I think that C° is used to express differences or ranges of temperatures. For instance the difference between 15 °C and 20 °C is 5 C°. Or you could say something like, "5 C° more is all it takes for me to start wearing shorts".
I feel like that would have come up at some point during my two years of thermodynamics classes where we were constantly using ∆T. just did a search for "C°" in quotes, and for delta T; first one returned nothing, second showed a bunch of sources where the units of ∆T were °C. any idea where you might have heard this?
I'm old. Google tells me that "Celcius degrees" used to be used for differences or ranges, but modern standards just use "degrees celcius" for everything. My experience would come from thermodynamics classes in the 1980's.
I've always seen Kelvin used to describe differences in temperature, since Kelvin has a real zero point and the steps are the same as Celsius. Or people just use °C because they don't know or care that it's technically wrong.
Heatwaves in London are strange. You see a few people outside in light sweaters. It's like they don't know what to do. It's like they don't own t-shirts
Same, but when it's 30c+ outside there's a huge difference between us going out wearing long sleeved linen shirts and light trousers, and the handful of people I always end up seeing (at least!) wearing puffer jackets and wooly hats.
Anything over 28C is currently classified as a heatwave, but I think they're going to have to revisit that, or just say "all summer is a heatwave try not to die" given 32-35C has been consistently hit pretty much every summer this decade.
yeah it's not bad globally, but it is pretty bad for london, the infrastructure isn't prepared for it
esp because it's pretty humid as well, sweating doesn't do much
Yeah, the humidity also doesn't compare. The US is, as with most things especially lately, way worse.
None of this means the UK has it easy, don't misunderstand. It means the people stuck in the US are in a crazy land of stupid things which includes the weather. But at least there aren't Australian murder fauna I guess.
62% humidity outside right now, 99° F "real feel", 92° F "real feel shade". 88° F actual temp.
I think what folks from not humid places don't realize is how hot the shade is. Shade is always better than sun, obviously, but it sort of only takes the feeling of the sun against your skin. The air is still hot. I'd compare it to a sauna sort of. Like it's still stuffy.
The first time my wife went to somewhere that actually has dry heat she said it was amazing. She was actually cold in the shade. Not just cool. That concept is so foreign to me.
I understand because of a useful mnemonic I learned a few years ago. 30 is hot. 20 is nice. 10 is cold. 0 is ice. 30 is still pretty nice for most US citizens since we're not Canadian.
You do realize that we're not ignorant to the metric system, right? Anyone with even the slightest interest in science and/or computing knows what celsius is.
Ah, you see it’s easy! 10°C is 70°F in Canada and 30°C is 35°F in Australia. Fahrenheit is based upon comfortable temperature and since that differs by person and population the amount differs too!
Celsius is just boring old math though. Kind of like metric measurements. Everything devisable by 1000? Pffft, boooring! Give me my 600 feet to the mile and 8-1/2 football fields to league like a truely patriotic measuring system! Did I mention I actually prefer needing a lookup table to figure out unit conversions.
Or just a kid who had mandatory science classes at any point in your life. Or work in the food service industry. Or have an aquarium. Or enjoy baking. Or watch international sports. Or travel, ever.
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Wait. So is it a flex to wear shorts at 10? Is a jacket at 30? I'm so confused. That's like the mildest of temps. How about when we do yard work when it's 37.5c? Or go kayaking in 7c because like all those things happened are normal here. I was building a fire pit area today and it was 100° and earlier in the year I was on the lake kayaking when it was 45°.
Of course I do, it stands for Percentage of Commie.
These poor folks don't even know in a free country you can wear jackets and shorts any time you like.
I don't really get the hate for fahrenheit. It's a nice 0 to 100 scale for everyday weather temperatures. But also every 10 degrees is different enough that you don't even need to be precise when talking about it: "We'll probably need the AC today, it's going to be in the 80s".
I'm an American that's all for converting to metric but I would still use fahrenheit for weather since it's just so easy and convenient.
Come to New Zealand, we wear shorts (or stubbies as they are known over here) all year round!
its cold in New Zeeland?
I love the Kiwi lingo.
Yeah but, 10c is 50f, which is not cold for shorts. Maybe cool at best? I wear shorts year round though 😬.
That entirely depends on where you live and what temperatures you're used too. I live in a hot part of Australia and absolutely wouldn't wear shorts in 10c because my body is acclimated to hotter weather.
In Canada 10C is warm.
Yes, that's the exact point I'm making. If you're used to colder than 10c, then 10c isn't very cold to you.
Very true. Especially if it’s breezy.
Are you a 'shorts every day' guy?
Are you spying on me bro?
Not them...
But, I do and yes I shovel snow in shorts. As long as my feet and hands are warm, I'm ready to roll.
You dropped de minus on 10C.
Jackets at 30C??
I've seen some wearing wintercoats
An Australian family moved to my town on some kind of exchange and yah, the one kid was still wearing a jacket at 30. Literally never wasn't cold.
Taught us how to play cricket, he was a cool kid.
Tbf, I do that
you've got me, I don't know what C° is, I only know °C
Probably OOPs engagement bait, it gets me every time I see this meme 😭
A cegree dee
Now that you pointed it out, this annoys me more than people who put the currency sign after the amount.
Welcome to Europa were we do exactly that, as the placement of the currency symbol is a locale thing not a universal.
Sure, but that doesn't stop the localities that put it after from being totally wrong and stupid.
but you say "its 15 US Dollar", and not "its US Dollar 15"? Same with any other unit (which a currency is) "x m, y seconds, z newton"
Speaking things and reading things aren't 1 to 1 the same.
Yeah I know, it drives me crazy.
It's also annoying when Europeans swap the comma and decimal on currency amounts too, especially given that you don't do that when writing sentences. Few things more infuriating than seeing an amount written out like 2.999,95€! Where are your manners!?
USAian defaultism is always hilarious
I can't help that I was born here. FWIW I'm not a blind patriot, I just have autism.
I see, that's understandable. We all have pet-peeves. Mine is the date format in the US that has spread month-day-year. Most of Europe is day-month-year and it's very confusing when people start adopting US formats because they watch so much stuff from the US.
IMO any date standard other than ISO 8601 is wrong too. Year-Month-Date makes the most sense from a chronological standpoint. Also makes sorting files by date easier.
It's not just Americans that use the comma as a spacer and a period for a decimal
stares at you in Australian
Get off our internet if you don’t like it 🇺🇸🔫💪
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Wide_Web
Bloody ignorant loud mouth Americans claiming credit for group projects, as usual.
Yep, we employ people from all over the world.
"It's so infuriating when people communicate in ways I'm not used to!"
Doesn't sound great.
According to ISO 80000-1, the decimal separator can either be a period or a comma, and no preference is given to either. Many American software systems support both (including the software I work on). It's really quite normal and mundane.
Where I live we...just use comma. So 2999,95. No reason to add useless separators in the middle, and if we do for clarity sake, we use space (2 999,95).
This is gonna irk you further, isn't it...? xD
Wish everyone just followed the ISO norm. It dictates that you can either use a period or a comma as decimal separator. And for the thousands separator, just use a space.
Separators aren't useless; they help greatly in reading large numbers.
We use, if needed, apostrophes or upticks. 2'999,95. No danger of messing up between . and , that way.
Also let's just wait until that person learns that not every country separates into blocks of 3 and how many options of mixing and matching there are in use.
I know the Indians have their 2 digit 3 digit thing, who else does interesting groupings ?
Space is what ISO recommends using.
manners? Where is your freedom, as you took that notation (0,000.00) from your british overlords.
Well like I said to the other person, it's not a "I think the US is superior" thing; very much the opposite. I simply have autism. (ADHD too but that's not relevant here.)
That's alright, but "Where are your manners!?" comes off a bit hostile. But in any case, have a nice day.
Don't worry I'm just being cheeky. I inserted that bit to keep the comment lighthearted.
One of my favorite things about Lemmy is how many of us are in the autism/ADHD neurotribe, or at least have an understanding about it. We can read your response and be like, "Oh, okay. Yeah, I get where you're coming from" and roll along, without the need for senseless hostility.
Just another day, another misinterpretation - we've all been there. Carry on.
People who deviate from the rule that units go after the number drive me batty.
Like what, is the US equivalent of X €/kWh written $ X / kWh or something??? Absolutely disgusting
Wait until ypu discover that were i live we use those:
And that what you use depends on who your teacher was XD
Listen do you say Dollars 300 ($300) or do you say 300 Dollars (300$)?
I rest my case lol
I'll give you my 2¢ on this: I like the dollar sign before the number. When I say "3 dollars" I see it as "$3" not "3$" and I don't see it as "dollars 3" unless I'm telling a riddle.
Just like with American date structure: I'll say July 26, 2026 and will see it as 07/26/2026.
(But when I put a date in files I go for YYYY/MM/DD format)
(Whoever created these systems had a funny sense of synergy lol)
To me putting it first feels funny. Euro 100, instead of 100 euros. While writing it you need to remember to put the symbol before writing the amount. Funny thing
I dont know why that annoys me. It does annoy me but it shouldn't because at least it has a logic to it.
£2 Is spoken "two pounds" not "pound two"
Is because with it being before, you get to know that the number is for a currency immediately, instead of finding out it's a currency afterwards
Yes, I too deal with amounts of money large enough that I can't see the end when I start reading it!
You bought some RAM recently?
Tried to ... it turned out cheaper to just pay someone to strip it out of flock cameras instead
Technically, I think that C° is used to express differences or ranges of temperatures. For instance the difference between 15 °C and 20 °C is 5 C°. Or you could say something like, "5 C° more is all it takes for me to start wearing shorts".
I'm pretty sure you've made this up. °C is the unit regardless
How would you "say" this, "Five Celcius degrees more..."?
I feel like that would have come up at some point during my two years of thermodynamics classes where we were constantly using ∆T. just did a search for "C°" in quotes, and for delta T; first one returned nothing, second showed a bunch of sources where the units of ∆T were °C. any idea where you might have heard this?
I'm old. Google tells me that "Celcius degrees" used to be used for differences or ranges, but modern standards just use "degrees celcius" for everything. My experience would come from thermodynamics classes in the 1980's.
I've always seen Kelvin used to describe differences in temperature, since Kelvin has a real zero point and the steps are the same as Celsius. Or people just use °C because they don't know or care that it's technically wrong.
I reject your reality and substitute my own.
"When will I ever use this in real life?!?" I wonder how successful "to understand the international memes" would be in the classroom 🤔
10° is a completely normal temperature to wear shorts at
FYI this is like 283 and 303 kelvin
What is that in Rankine?
No, bad America.
This, pound-mole and thousandths of an inch can fuck right off to hell.
Use metric at that point haha
509.4 and 545.4 °R respectively
If anyone needs it: it's 12.750 and 23.250 °Rø respectively
That's not even flexing with the shorts. It's -15°C that's the flex
Heatwaves in London are strange. You see a few people outside in light sweaters. It's like they don't know what to do. It's like they don't own t-shirts
I always wear long sleeved shirts, because I burn very quickly and don't want skin cancer and I really dislike applying sunscreen all the time.
Same, but when it's 30c+ outside there's a huge difference between us going out wearing long sleeved linen shirts and light trousers, and the handful of people I always end up seeing (at least!) wearing puffer jackets and wooly hats.
But a heat wave in London is, what? 25 degrees?
Last big heatwave hit 35 here and I'm only an hour and a bit away from the edge of London
unfortunately it did go over 30° the last time i was there. but tbf also that's the hottest it gets
40C in London in 2022,
https://www.londonworld.com/news/weather/heatwave-london-weather-highest-ever-temperature-recorded-uk-heathrow-airport-3773879
37.7C last month (June 2026)
https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/blog/2026/june-2026-heatwave-a-recap-of-the-temperature-records (for avoidance of confusion those are the records for June - the 40C was July 2022)
Anything over 28C is currently classified as a heatwave, but I think they're going to have to revisit that, or just say "all summer is a heatwave try not to die" given 32-35C has been consistently hit pretty much every summer this decade.
That's only 86F. It's not a heat wave in the US until it's in the mid 90s. That's 35 Celsius.
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That 111 you see is 43.9C.
yeah it's not bad globally, but it is pretty bad for london, the infrastructure isn't prepared for it
esp because it's pretty humid as well, sweating doesn't do much
Yeah, the humidity also doesn't compare. The US is, as with most things especially lately, way worse.
None of this means the UK has it easy, don't misunderstand. It means the people stuck in the US are in a crazy land of stupid things which includes the weather. But at least there aren't Australian murder fauna I guess.
62% humidity outside right now, 99° F "real feel", 92° F "real feel shade". 88° F actual temp.
I think what folks from not humid places don't realize is how hot the shade is. Shade is always better than sun, obviously, but it sort of only takes the feeling of the sun against your skin. The air is still hot. I'd compare it to a sauna sort of. Like it's still stuffy.
The first time my wife went to somewhere that actually has dry heat she said it was amazing. She was actually cold in the shade. Not just cool. That concept is so foreign to me.
This. Higher wet bulb temps just straight up kill you. A hot day in Alabama or Louisiana is not the same as a hot day in London or Riyadh.
Nope. 40
I understand because of a useful mnemonic I learned a few years ago. 30 is hot. 20 is nice. 10 is cold. 0 is ice. 30 is still pretty nice for most US citizens since we're not Canadian.
Guess I'm a Canadian adult in the USA.
I'm aware, but it's more fun this way.
I suppose posting this meme with F instead of C would confuse more of the world than this one will. When trolling its all about numbers people.
Nah, shitting on Americans is a daily requirement. No one likes Americans.
Yeah but this does double duty of normalizing °F
Americans are used to being able to infer unknown scales of measurement
I know neither one is freezing. Or boiling, because my coffee brews at 95° C, max.
You do realize that we're not ignorant to the metric system, right? Anyone with even the slightest interest in science and/or computing knows what celsius is.
Ah, you see it’s easy! 10°C is 70°F in Canada and 30°C is 35°F in Australia. Fahrenheit is based upon comfortable temperature and since that differs by person and population the amount differs too!
Celsius is just boring old math though. Kind of like metric measurements. Everything devisable by 1000? Pffft, boooring! Give me my 600 feet to the mile and 8-1/2 football fields to league like a truely patriotic measuring system! Did I mention I actually prefer needing a lookup table to figure out unit conversions.
Australians totally wear shorts all the way down to 0 degrees.
Kiwis too, on the south island while wearing jandals in June.
Are jandals sandals that are made out of jeans?
Short for "Japanese sandals", the term used for flip-flops in New Zealand. Aussies call them thongs, but you know how Aussies are.
Yeah 10° isn't that cold, shit I've worn shorts when it's 10 °F
There's a lot of jackets in November with 20° weather, at least in Melbourne - I got so many chuffed looks for wearing a T-shirt in cloudy weather
North face is a seperate issue to weather
For those who don’t know the quick and dirty conversion it’s double it and add 30. So both temps are ~50F and ~90F
Less quick and dirty is double it, take off 10% and add 32. So both temperatures are exactly 50°F and 86°F
That's not less quick and dirty that's clean and true.
It's close, but I just used this to convert my local temp from F to C and it's off by 2°, which is huge for Celsius...
No shit
If you want precision then don’t take a shortcut
if you been in stem in the US, you would use metric. people get wierd when you say kg, instead of lbs, or m/KM instead of miles.
Or just a kid who had mandatory science classes at any point in your life. Or work in the food service industry. Or have an aquarium. Or enjoy baking. Or watch international sports. Or travel, ever.
Just use Clicks. Then people will thank you for your service.
I never understood why the US military is so frightened of syllables.
American civil engineers still use a lot of customary units. 💀
Also me knowing what the hell that figure is supposed to be.
30c is what my CPU is at when idle.
Never seen a C in my life
American education system at work.
Do Canadians also don't know why they did this as kids