American-style tipping system is gaining ground in the Netherlands
Translation:
5, 10 or 15 percent? Card terminals are increasingly asking for tips.
You may have had to do this lately too: choosing what percentage tip you want to give on the card terminal when paying in a restaurant or bar. Or clicking 'no tip' after all.
The number of hospitality businesses doing this is growing, and we are also tipping more often when we have to choose. This is evident from figures shared by payment companies with the NOS. When giving such a tip, we most often choose 5 percent from the options of 5, 10, 15 percent, or a self-chosen amount.
Hospitality businesses using payment and software company Tebi can decide for themselves whether to display the menu. It turns out that at coffee shops where you order at a counter, the percentage of tippers skyrockets when they ask for a tip. Almost no one adds a tip by card if no request is displayed, but with a request, that figure is over 20 percent.
In upscale restaurants, customers often leave a tip by card anyway, even if not asked. With a tipping menu, even more people do so, according to the figures. Percentage of transactions with a tip
At surf school and beach bar The Shore in Scheveningen, they have been working with percentage tips for quite some time. During the pandemic, the business switched to card payments only. "Tips dropped drastically then," says co-owner Thomas Franse.
In 2021, The Shore got a POS system that had that tipping option, and it was enabled. "That was definitely the moment the tips went up again."
Franse has mixed feelings about asking for tips. "It is not the best customer experience. In the beginning, we received quite a lot of negative reactions alongside the positive ones. However, it is an important source of income for the staff." He also notices customers getting used to it now, because more and more hospitality businesses are doing it. A tip menu on a card reader
Payment company Adyen compiled data on the proportion of hospitality business owners who are customers of their establishments who use a custom tipping menu. For restaurants, this rose from 19 percent in the first half of 2025 to 22 percent in the first half of 2026. For bars and cafes, it rose from 46 to 53 percent.
"This indicates that this is increasingly becoming a standard part of modern payment processes in the hospitality industry," says Julien Marlier, Benelux Manager. On card terminals where the tipping function is active, 61 percent choose 'no tip'. Consequently, 39 percent do leave a tip, averaging 4.31 euros.
Tebi also has figures on the percentage we select when giving a tip. Most often, people choose 5 percent. "About a quarter enter their own, usually small, amount," says general manager Florian Brunsting. "High 'American' tip amounts are hardly ever seen." In the US, a tip of at least 20 percent is expected in restaurants. How much tip should we give?
The Irish pub Mick O'Connells in Utrecht also has card readers with tip requests. "It is sometimes quite surprising who does and doesn't give a tip," says manager James O'Halloran. "Young students, from whom you wouldn't expect a tip, might give 5 or 10 percent. Wealthier bank employees sometimes give nothing at all."
The tip is usually 5 percent, he notes as well. "On average, we receive about 3,500 to 4,000 euros in tips monthly. That is distributed entirely among employees, based on the number of working hours." On average, it amounts to about 2 euros per hour. Less personal
Restaurant and bar patrons react differently to tip requests. "I didn't give a tip," says Sophie, who ordered at the counter at a salad bar in Utrecht and had to choose. "I find it less personal. It's just: here, do you want to give a tip or not?"
"I like it because then I can choose for myself what, if anything, to give," says a visitor to The Shore in Scheveningen. He gave a 5 percent tip. "People work hard for it. So it's nice to give a little something extra." More often in Amsterdam
Whether entrepreneurs opt for a tip menu varies by region. For instance, in Amsterdam, over 30 percent of Tebi customers have enabled the feature, whereas in Nijmegen, for example, it is only 10 percent.
During a survey in Den Bosch, several hospitality businesses said they did not want to get involved. "I'm not really a fan of it," says Marc Bouman of Brasserij Breton. "I'm not going to push tips unnecessarily; people give it if they want to."
"If you show that choice, people might feel forced," says Angie Joosten of Café CinQ. "For us, it works just fine to leave it entirely up to each individual."
https://nos.nl/artikel/2623445-5-10-of-15-procent-pinapparaten-vragen-steeds-vaker-om-fooiOpen linkView original on lemmy.world
156 replies
Canadian here.
Stop it. Stop it stop it STOP IT!
Refuse tips everywhere. If a business gives you the 'option,' refuse. Refuse, explain, and stop going there.
PENALIZE any place that sets up tip options. Hurt them. Drive them out of business.
Break the spine of tipping now. Before it's too late.
Tipping is a thing in the NL. But this 15% nonesense by default can go fuck itself.
Tipping is gratuity, to be awarded for excelent service. If they dare ask me for a tip, I'd consider that rude and they'll get nothing from me.
In practice "excellent service" too often means being a white girl with no ring.
Raise your prices and pay servers fairly and equally.
The whole concept of tipping is really just institutionalized bribery. It associates the idea of paying more with getting treated better. Like the man who slips the maitre d' money in order to get a table without having reserved one, it punishes poor people by un-leveling the playing field. If I'm paying the amount that has been agreed upon, I shouldn't have to worry that a server might neglect me to lavish more attention on someone who's bribing them. If I've reserved a table according to the correct procedure, I shouldn't have to worry that my reservation will be "accidentally double-booked" as a result of somebody else being willing to bribe the maitre d'. Rich people should not have an easy means to steal what they want from poor people.
It's even worse than that, it was a way to not pay free black people an actual wage and force them to be servile so wealthy white Americans could continue to feel superior.
Goddammit is there anything in this country that didn't start for explicitly racist reasons?
The National Park system, if you ignore that taking that land in the first place was a genocidal conquest...
Does it happen often to you that you reserve a table and someone pays more to get it?
Never happened to me.
Fully agree. Always this "excellent service" argument. Reminds me of the scene in Reservoir Dogs (which was actually pro-tipping...).
Do I get a discount for being an excellent customer?
I mean, truthfully, white men have always been treated the best at tipping jobs and made the most money. Like that was very clear over ten years working restaurants. Women get judged by looks, and you can be the hottest babe in the city and still have women and dudes hate on you for the dumbest shit. White men can charm women, they are one of the dudes, they don’t have to be attractive. The sweating heroin addict even cleaned up.
What's a fair wage? Servers can make $$$ from tips. $20/table with turnover every 60-90 minutes.
I don't know about living costs in the US but sounds like you're answering your own question?
I think $100/hr seems kinda high.
Well sorry to be rude but fuck their tip. If they don’t want fair wages then they’ll get unfair customers, like me.
This is how I tip. If I get asked to pay before being served food or beverage, no tip. Coffee shops, fast-food places, bust your table places. No tip. Ever. Sorry.
All the other places, 15%max. The restaurant’s junk fee gets deducted. Sorry. I’ll fight for your living wage. I won’t fight for your tip.
I mostly eat at home anyways so it doesn’t matter.
If i order standing up, I'll tip the change.
Judging servers feels gross. Awarding and punishing for a meal? We have tens of thousands of meals. A few bad ones isn’t the end of the world. Let’s keep it simple and skip the judging.
Seriously, I live in Japan and I often want to tip because the workers provide—what is to me—excellent service. Even if were to try to tip, they would refuse. Whereas in Canada, I'm expected to tip for workers doing exactly what they're supposed to do.
Tip is for exceptional service, not expected service.
I like the Japanese take on tipping. It's actually rude to offer a tip because that puts the customer above the server. The server basically has to concede to my whims if they want the extra pay.
From the business's point of view, the customer is already above the server. So, from what I understand as a Japanese dude (grew up in Canada though), I don't think it's rude to offer, but I think servers refuse it because it's rude to accept. As in, that puts a burden on the customer. I think. I dunno, it seems complicated. All I know that it's just not a thing here unless you go to a bar that's obviously catered toward thirsty foreign guys.
The UK has a tipping culture but in pubs it's considered insulting. "You wouldnt tip your psychiatrist, would you?"
In general we tip however the fuck we want, and a lot of people round to some number.
USA guy here: pls listen.
As an American, please don't let this spread, our system is stupid and annoying
I personally love doing math before leaving any establishment. I have a sheet of math equations taped up to my door that I complete before I leave home.
/s tipping blows
To be fair, the system in question does the math for you. It is still contra to European tipping culture though.
As a Dutch person. Fuck that shit
As an American, fuck that shit.
As a Dutch-American, fuckfuck thatthat shitshit.
Another one here. Double fuck this shit. I'm not tipping. Full stop.
American here.
DON'T
Yeah just tip 0.
As an American living in the Netherlands for 4 years now:
NO, YOU MOTHERFUCKERS. NO.
welkom
(zonder tip)
Natuurlijk niet.
Waarom zou ik, of wie dan ook, meer nodig hebben dan een standaard "welkom"?
::: spoiler spoiler Ik zal het je vertellen. De arrogantie van Amerikaanse ondernemers die de verantwoordelijkheid voor het betalen van een leefbaar loon rechtstreeks op hun klanten afschuiven. Daarom laten Amerikaanse obers je nooit met rust terwijl je eet. Ze zijn verplicht om uitzonderlijke service te verlenen, zodat de restauranteigenaar het loon van $2,85 per uur kan rechtvaardigen. Voor die fucking "tips". Ik heb een grenzeloze minachting voor de zakelijke praktijken van mijn landgenoten. :::
Yeah, that's exactly it. And it has been enshrined in US law.
(Sorry to reply in English, I can read Dutch but can't write it and my pronunciation's horrible.)
You're contagious.
Like hell it is.
Card terminals may be asking for tips, but if they do that they're getting 0% from me. Asking for a tip is rude and a guaranteed way not to get one.
I experienced it once at a place where I had to prepay for the drinks, so they dared to ask me for a tip before I even received service. The absolute guts of asking for a tip before even offering service...
Tips are gratuity awarded for excelent or exceptional service. Unlike America waiting staff actually earns a proper wage, so it's not like they need tips to get by.
"... it is an important source of income for the staff."
Source of income is their employment.
I don't mind leaving a tip for great service, but it's a few coins to round up and cash only. I never did and never will tip by card.
We pay very good living wages in the Netherlands so there is absolutely no need to this American bullshit.
I used to be a good tipper. I still am for genuine service, but the default “tip every transaction” has pissed me off enough that unless you personally handled my food, or performed a service for me, I instantly stab 0.
I was a a baseball game the other weekend, they had a self service kiosk for bottles of soda, a glorified vending machine. It had a default 18% tip added to the transaction that I had to drill into a menu to zero out. Fucking bonkers, not a human in sight, just a couple of sensors and a credit card terminal.
Tip culture has gotten way out of control since Covid, I’m refusing to participate anymore.
Just another category of junk fees. Those are creeping in everywhere.
Don‘t do this. Actively asking for a tip foils the very idea of tipping. It‘s basically soliciting.
Tips have their roots in the post-civil war reconstruction era where southern whites didn’t want to pay former slaves wages and instead cooked up this idea that you can work harder for more potential tips.
It’s a stupid outdated system. Pay people what they are worth. Give them healthcare and a living wage. And fix the broken tax system that favors wealthy business owners.
In Germany the card terminals at restaurants started this too, but usually the servers are so embarrassed about showing it that they hit the 0% option themselves before they hand it to the customer or they type in the tip you said manually by hand in the “Custom amount” option.
Fascinating that software products are shifting culture. Product managers out here invisible-handing society.
The sales pitch is pretty attractive for those POS systems. They can prove with internal data that the tip button increases tips. If it costs the same as any other POS, merchants will always choose that system.
I’m interested in the perspective of the staff on this. I used to work as a barista and we had a tip jar that was shared at the end of the week. None of staff behaved any differently because of it. So, do the tips go to the owner? Are they allocated to who took the order? The chef?
As a fucking European, I tip when I want to tip. The employer should pay it's employees!
hell no this needs to go away
Honestly, even if we got rid of tipping all together, I'd probably still tip when I can. Even jobs like McDonald's, I'll slip a 2 or more if I can to person. Like the person taking out the trash or the cook. If I get a chance, without risking their job
Cause at the end of the day, I know that even sometimes, those $2 or $5 end up saving the day. Plenty of times, a tip has saved me from going hungry or missing rent.
I guess saying this, I've come to feel that tipping isn't a bad thing. It's a way to tell a worker that you appreciate them. What is a bad thing is when the government takes advantage of the kind nature of our fellow humans to hold down the workers.
Pay people livable wages, and allow folks to tip no matter the job if they want.
The staff suffers the most from the default tip. It puts them permanently on edge, and makes their job needlessly stressful. It is much better for the staff not to have to think about money at all while trying to do their job. In countries without the default tip, staff salaries are commensurately higher.
I agree. I'm saying we should still tip even when folks have livable wages. To show appreciation for the fellow worker. Totally, no one should worry about money they make at work. I just like to show folks in jobs that can be tasking on a person that someone out there see em.
American here: Fuck off, "American style" tipping needs to die.
That would require service workers to earn a living wage, which is impossible. Simply can't be done. Would be too hard for any business to bare. Sorry.
There are countries (Iceland for one) where restaurant workers are paid a living wage and tipping is barely a thing. So yes, it can be done. Whether you'd regard it as simple or not, I couldn't say. And, because there are more people paid a living wage, there's more demand for restaurants and cafes. It's a virtuous cycle.
Dog-eat-dog economies are not the only possible kind, despite all the claims by neocons that it's some kind of immutable law of nature.
No no no. I was told that this would set off an economy-killing inflationary spiral.
You can't honestly tell me that more working-class residents with a higher income might become the foundation for domestic economic growth. Why, that's downright Fordist! And we disproved Fordism under Reagan, when we decoupled wages from growth and the economy was 100% perfect for all eight years with no exceptions.
American here, it’s not recommended
OH GOD NO
Yeah, considering the Netherlands is known far and wide as the stingiest country in Europe, maybe even the world, I'm gonna go out on a limb and say this is probably mostly tourists.
If I ever get hassled for a tip anywhere in Europe you can be damn sure I'm not going to give one out of principle.
I absolutely want people to get fair wages, and I'm going to do it by voting for a livable minimum wage and not by encouraging this nonsense.
We and the Scots to be fair.
I saw this briefly making an appearance in France a couple years ago, but it seems to have been disabled on most POS terminals nowadays. I guess nobody liked it.
It's an option that you can enable/disable in the settings using the merchant card.
Depending on the type of store, it can easily be a confusing nuisance. People don't always look at the terminal and start typing their pin code as the tip amount or just generally wasting everyone's time by talking and asking questions about it.
Lol.
How much tip do you want to leave?
$4237
I can imagine the customers would react pleasantly to leaving this uninentended tip.
POS indeed.
It starts with five, ten, and fifteen. Ours go from fifteen, twenty, and twenty-five. For coffee.
I've definitely seen 20-25-30 in the US
Is there 0?
Select "Other" and type in "0". Sometimes that's the only option I find.
You can press "No Tip" if you prefer to leave cash in the jar, or want to feel like a jerk for a few hours.
A server in NY tried to make me feel bad "explaining" that 10% was considered a very bad tip, only for when the service was bad. I explained to him the service and the food were bad, and the price very high. He tried to convince me to still leave 20%. I didn't know back then that their salaries are the tips, but that's a fucked up system.
Hours?! Outside of servers at restaurants, I don't even feel like a jerk for a second.
Because you give a tip if you got a good service, not according to your bank account.
That and probably you're getting the young people used to this bullshit, please don't.
So the difference between tipping here and america is, this is literally just bonus. They get paid a normal wage besides it.
Now I don't mind being able to add a tip while paying with a card, the problem is the set %. That can add up to way more than what we would normally tip.
No, no it's really not gaining ground except in the sense that five years ago it didn't exist at all. The only places that use this shit are tourist traps and a few restaurants tourists frequent.
I have no idea WTF the NOS is smoking here. Usually they are reliable (they are our government controlled news outlet, generally very good).
government controlledsubsidizedYes that's a better way of putting it, thanks.
The article doesn't match my experience either. I see the option to add a tip when ordering from ThuisBezorgd or restaurants websites for pickup, but they don't offer a percentage: it's usually an option to add an extra euro or two or five.
I'll add a few euros if I'm getting something delivered and its hot or raining, because then I feel bad about being so lazy.
It’s on the card readers, around me it’s on almost all machines. Getting a sandwich to go? It’ll ask you to tip 15%. Getting a bag of coffee beans, same question.
Do you mind if I ask where you are? I'm in Nijmegen and I just don't see it when paying in person.
Just earlier I went out to wander through the Vierdaagse parties and all of the street food/beer vendors just offered a straight card reading or a qr code to pay.
Nijmegen is specifically called out as less affected in the article, but I’m in the Amsterdam area so I’m unfortunately very affected.
EDIT: this is build into the card readers by the way.
Username checks out.
The NOS based their claim on statistics, not personal impressions from specific regions. From the data it's clear that more and more payment terminals have the tipping bullshit enabled and that it results in more tips.
That's how it starts though. Probably 5 years ago I wouldn't see tipping options in the US anywhere but a fancy restaurant and 15% was standard. Now 18% is standard and I'll be asked if I want to tip before I've gotten my food at McDonald's and before I've interacted with any human being.
Probably 5 years ago you didn't go to restaurants. Unless you're specifically talking about pre-calculated tip recommendations on receipts, and even then it's been way more than 5 years. The tip line has been standard at table service restaurants for longer than I've been alive .
Yeah the McDonald's and pre-tipping is bullshit, but tipping has been standard for table service in America for like a century.
That might be true. Having kids makes cooking harder.
20% has been standard for a decade.
Found the corpo.
This will be another incentive for employers to pay staff even less "you have tips anyways".
Sorry I will not be giving tips for a service I paid for as per menu. Tips should be reserved for whom went above and beyond not just for providing the service I paid for.
this shit is spreading in Hungary too, but it's not that new :(
We just seen that on a party in Budapest. Instant 0% it was.
I love tipping for good service, and frequently round up to the nearest €10, but whenever someone starts out assuming a tip (and I've seen these several times), it's automatically no tip from me.
I tip for good service, and shoving American-style tipping in my face automatically counts as bad service.
American-style tipping goes hand in hand with American-style sub-minimum wages for waitstaff. If your country pays waitstaff a decent wage, the tip is just a little extra for good service.
This certainly also means these businesses are willing to under-pay their employees who do get tips.
Yeah, but businesses can only under-pay so much, cos the minimum wage in the Netherlands (and prolly in most of Europe as well) is a lot higher than the US. Isn't US federal minimum wage like $7? In the Netherlands it is 15 Euros.
It is $7.25, but U.S. businesses often get away with paying waiters way below minimum wage. They expect their employees to make it up with the tips they recieve from customers. If it is American style tipping, that is exactly what that is.
Found this bs in Spain, in one of these terminals that look like ipads… while buying some movie tickets.
Automatic 0%.
I'm not returning if they ask for it.
As an American. No, just no.
I don't mind the idea of tipping of someone thag goes above and beyond what's expected. That being said fuck tipping by percent of the total bill. I refuse to pay someone more money simply because they work at a snobby restaurant. The waitress pulling a double at a diner gets more from me and my $10 bill.
And I always thought they were smart people. Oh well.
They are. That's why they have this. When it comes to right wing vs left wing values in all countries, the right win every time. They don't quit on their goals
Boehahahahaha!! Left leaning always wins mate. Which is why we no longer have slaves or child labor, gays are accepted, you can marry anyone with any color, less and less religion.
Time favors socialists. Thank fuck.
As the man said, the future is unwritten. Progress is not inevitable. We're seeing backsliding on all the wins you've mentioned, except (so far) slavery. History favors those who stand up and organize. You don't just get your wish. You have to force them to make concessions.
Is this winning?
16000 votes 287000 views
Like I get the touch grass mentality and that nothing online ever matters. But that's a lie. People see this. Kids see it. Over and over and over again. This is the consequence of retreat.
They have channels that they promote these things to. They raise awareness. They treat the smallest bullshit like its a competition and they win. The consequence of that is when a big challenge or event shows up then they have the network in place to succeed. They can disseminate information rapidly. They can bring attention to their cause. They can defend their people.
The left does the opposite. We say go outside, nothing matters, go meet people at a coffee shop and chill guy. Meanwhile nobody but us are aware of our issues. The people sticking their necks out get crucified without support. It's just so messed up how far we've retreated over being uncomfortable. And look at the people here who reinforce it. They'll call me a nazi sympathizer if I say we should be on these platforms fact checking these fucks or putting up resistance where the people are.
Or how about this one?
So I get the feeling that people on the left want to ignore this. But it is getting insane. When leftist left all at once it cleared a path for these people. It means the base changed and these companies respond to their base. If nobody is there to call this stuff out and report then it spreads. Right now groups like this are marketed to kids and teens and young men. Deciding to ignore it today is only postponing when you need to handle it but when you do it'll be much bigger and difficult to handle
Now I need to sit down, read this a couple of times. This is bringing me down...
No you don't. Historically it's been like 100 years that we had a little break the rest is slavery, child labor and suffering. Us on the left needed to fight our fucking asses off to maintain this. But look at you fucking people. They annoyed you and that was enough to gave up every territory to them. Now they're in the eyes and ears of the population and you're here with me
Money, unfortunately, talks.
I'm starting to believe it isn't just money though. Money certainly helps them establish groups and make it look like their engagement is bigger. I really am starting to see the we're playing two completely different games.
The left is being convinced to disengage, retreat, ignore social media in favor of high energy, high effort high organizational requirement activism while the right are using digital tools and basic online methods to spread their activism.
Everybody on the right seems like they're pushing social media content 24/7 in groups with minimal moderation in favor of keeping energy and momentum going for every topic. While the left are in these highly moderated hug boxes with major separation of concerns that stifle momentum on any current event.
Sorry but no
Whenever I see that shit here I tip nothing
Yes i experienced the mind-melt americans experience every day. I went through a self service food place and then the cashier proceeded to ask for a tip on one of those tip display thingies, for standing there all day and doing nothing and propably still getting a wage thats enough to pay for living. Theyre the ones that deserve tips and defenitely not someone who gave you good service or cleans the toilets or whatever. I dont get it, instead if these stupid tip thingies everyone should join a union and if you dont get payed enough you strike.
You shouldn't have to join a union if your countries government cares enough to pass laws to protect the workers and create a living wage for all. Until then though...
You've got it backwards. You get these laws thanks to the unions.
Makes no sense. Why would the unions be responsible for lobbying to pass laws to protect the workers when unions exist all over the place and new ones want to form? What does make sense is they want to keep that dues gravy train rolling. I hope you at least get plastic doohickey's with the unions named emblazed thereupon.
There's a funny thing going on at EU level, were Danish unions are lobbying against an EU wide minimum wage. As they believe un-unionised immigrant labour will end up with worse wages, if there's a legal minimum wage they can point to
This is partly why some labor unions are sometimes considered to be capitalist institutions. They can end up placating and deradicalizing workers and, counterintuitively, turning the unionized segment of the working class against the most exploited segments of the working class.
yeah… go fuck yourself with this assholery tipping shit…
Please don't
This isn't very good at all! Let's call bullshit
I thought tips were supposed to go directly to the employees, and that they all got put into a jar and distributed at the end of the shift.
If it’s via a terminal, what guarantee have I got that it’s not going straight into the employers bank account and that staff will actually get it?
It also takes away the pleasure of tipping and gives it a more demanding nature by specifically asking for it.
Formal accounting. If it's handled by software, it's a lot harder to just stick the bills in your pocket. The software will automatically distribute the tips just like hourly pay, and any changes are logged.
And to add insult to the injury they will then be asked to be "nicer" and will be blamed for not getting enough tips. I mean for heaven's sake NL, don't become a hellhole, even though it'd be a richer hellhole. And mind it, "overall" richer, not everybody richer, oh no, oh no! Very few will become massively richer and a lot will start becoming drastically poorer (just look at the big beautiful Gaad's own nation).
Then they will come for the housing and health and other benefits that the citizens and residents are entitled to, whatever there is.
Remind me again... is the right wing (populism etc) getting a foothold in the NL (like in DE) by any chance?
See…. when the software hub for the world is just one nation (and that too the most powerful, the most corrupt, in fact with legal corruption, and has been the single most devastating nation to this planet - indirectly and directly, with a leader at the helm who is.. well let's not get into that.. … yada yada) then the risk is not just someday your banking system and emails stop working, these are far greater and insidious risks.
This is how societies are broken and then taken apart.
This is not a great idea. You cannot just flip a switch and make up a tipping culture. Countries that do tips have laws about them and how they are declared and distributed. I'm from Canada, but in my province if you tip at a restaurant, the tips are pooled for everybody working at the restaurant and then declared. In other places, that is not allowed and tips go straight to the pocket of the wait staff.
Don't let this become a thing.
Tips at a restaurant/café, hotel, hairdresser, taxi, some deliveries... maybe.
Tipping at a fast food joint, a Starbucks, drive through, retail store. Nope nope nope.
It's not American going culture, because people get paid a living wage. It's about the pop-up style tipping options when paying with card.
Dutch people tipping? Lol that's never going to happen🤣
I worked in the Dutch service industry for 10 years. My toys amounted to around 5 euros per hour on top of a good salary.
Never asked for a tip.
Good service gets tipped, bad service and asking for tips isn't.
The tip is usually 5% because it's the smallest option. Whatever tip culture exists in Europe is usually in the form of rounding up or giving a couple of euros. 5% at a restaurant can be more than what people would normally tip.
I will never ever pay a tip
Ever for any reason
Regardless of where i visit. Its an option and i choose no.
Ew.
Is that just because they buy american point-of-sale software?
The tipping system is horrendous and punishes the food servers. People need to go back and understand why it started in the first place.
its the guilt tripping and begging from the business that gets annoying.
Even more annoying is when the businesses steal the tips.
Totally agree.
Was very popular in Paris when we visted this year. But only at the tourist places. I assume they just rake in from tourists bot knowing any better.
No local shops asked for this
Same in Spain. They bilk the tourists, but the locals won't put up with it.
We need to push back, for the sake of the employees. Everyone should be paid a generous living wage for whatever work they do. If we refuse to tip, eventually, and quickly, businesses that are allowed to pay far below minimum wage will lose employees, and be forced to change.
Of course, the "generous living wage" is a problem in itself, as no one is getting that. But, tipping makes it worse.
Idiots.
I have tipped if the service was good, but only with few coins. I have no trust that the tip given on card would go to the wait staff and not mystically dissappear on the way to the booking. When I worked in restaurants, I have only gotten the cash tips, or my share of them. The card tips have been shared with only the real in-house employees at the end of "season", not with people doing trainings or working there only for month or two or occasionally filling in for someone being sick.
I'm 100% sure that those tips are kept by the management, as the tips are integrated on the POS (separate from the bill) with no way to indicate the server
Well it can get stuffed.
I went to the movies for the first time in a while. Grabbed some overpriced popcorn and before paying the screen asked me if I wanted to tip.
We never tipped the movie theater staff. It wasn't even an option when I went to the movies in the 90s - 10s. Wtaf?
Kill it with fire. Never let that disease metastasize from the US.
Just wait, the next step is making you watch an ad before you can click on the tip screen while a video game face frowns or smiles depending on how far you slide the tip bar
I don't think tipping via a terminal is bad.
What's nuts is when it starts with 10% and scales up to 20. 20 is not a norm in Europe and never was. One time I saw a terminal that had no opt-out option, now that was pretty abusive.
But I think people in Europe are chill, if you don't tip, no one would think twice - it's always your choice.
It's always the fucking Dutch...
Time to add a ko-fi link into corporate email, especially if someone in the hospitality sector in the Netherlands needs an urgent software update
What I don't understand is whether this is configurable by the vendor (the coffee shop or whatever), meaning they have the option to turn the "prompt for a tip" feature on and off. Or if there's no way for the coffee shop to say "no I don't want you to prompt for a tip"
It is, but that takes effort and its designed to prompt for a tip by default. And every software update you'll have to reconfigure the no tip as default. Its dark design pattern designed to guilt/pressure you into spending more so the payment company makes more.
Jeez, are hospitality workers paid a living wage?
NOOOOOO!!
On the other hand, thanks, activitypub, for reminding me why I left Canada for Finland.
Good. Enshittify the world. I’m sick of people acting like these global corps are only Americans. Nah, this is humanity, bitches. Enjoy!
5, 10,15%, that's nothing. A lot start at 18 and 20% around here.