Elon Musk’s Colossus 2 data center installed 59 natural gas turbines without permission, report claims — thousands of tons of pollutants reportedly impact black communities in Mississippi already suff
https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/data-centers/elon-musks-colossus-2-data-center-installed-59-natural-gas-turbines-without-permission-report-claims-thousands-of-tons-of-pollutants-reportedly-impact-black-communities-in-mississippi-already-suffering-from-elevated-lung-disease-ratesOpen linkView original on lemmy.world
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I work in emissions monitoring and this is super illegal.
Since when has illegality stopped
parasitesrich people?Time for hostile take over.
people did that work, just because elon musk tells people what to do doesn't mean those people should be exonerated from the consequences as well. the people doing the work sure as shit falls out there ass, know there was no permit. if there no permit, then why not a great fire ball in the night sky.
Yes. I'm pretty sure it's a contractor's job to get the permits. Is it not?
Not removing blame from Elon. Just smearing the blame around cause all those fucks are responsible
They are just going to call it another "Sacrifice Zone" like they do the cancer alley in Louisiana arent they?
Some people just are expendable for progress, what can the country do?
Im sure the American legal system will get those wheels of justice spinning on this in a few years.
No, but Julia Roberts and Meryl Streep will win hella Oscars playing the plucky white women who "take them down."
training wheels of justice
My city finally got a court order against a billionaire for unpermitted building that allows us to bulldoze his house. Just took 7 years in court to get the ruling...
And instead of bulldozing the house, we were able to use the court order to strongarm them into fixing their site so it no longer damages the environment, their neighbors, or city infrastructure.
The upside for the city there (aside from having to bid out and manage a major project in-house) is that we get a lot more tax revenue from a house that is brought into compliance than a scarred, demolished site.
Musk will power those spinning wheels himself with his natural gas turbines.
/s
One man harming thousands. Sounds like a crime that would be punishable by death in olden times.
People like this would be shot. People would group together and hire gunmen to get rid of criminals in the old west.
Of course their security was just a few body guards and that's it. Nobody was living in high tech buildings separate from everyone else.
There was an incident in South Korea some years ago where a greedy developer built an apartment building with substandard concrete; the building later collapsed and killed a few hundred people. The guy was tried and convicted and as he was being frog-marched to his sentencing hearing, friends and relatives of the victims were coming out of the crowd and beating him while his escorts just looked away.
It's really enjoyable to imagine that happening here in the US, but then it's enjoyable to imagine winning the lottery, too.
It's still punishable by death! Not legally, officially, but very much in reality!
Vietnam would have had him executed by now
Sounds like just anothwr day in the USA
Ozymandias
Percy Bysshe Shelley
Remember that anthropic are renting this data center, and should be seen as just as responsible as Musk.
https://www.theverge.com/science/935229/spacex-anthropic-ipo-ai-capacity-deal-colossus
Also Musk is such a loser, he built and ran this giant polluting data center without knowing what to do with it, and ended up renting it out at what looks like a loss.
Along with any dipshit using AI to begin with. As much of a complete piece of shit as musk is (and he is a HUGE piece of shit), the end users of this shit share in the blame too. Any idiot using grok or whatever the fuck anthropic call their horseshit are culpable.
To a proportionate degree yes, but AI is being shoved down the throats of workers and subsidized by the companies providing it too. I have some sympathy for the clueless grandma, or the person who's genuinely lost their mind thanks to this.
I have zero sympathy for the willfully ignorant. There’s more than enough information and evidence that this shit is horrible on many fronts, and anyone who has managed to ignore it is toeing into dangerously stupid territory. Making excuses for dumb assholes is how we’ve ended up with the stupidest cunts ever running things.
Dario Amodei is the one renting out the servers while pretending to he's the Wholesome Ethical AI Guy. His behavior is nearly on par with Musk here.
I'm much more interested in him (behavior that's extremely intentional, with the added slime of being deceptive and yet enjoying a ton of undeserved, fawning PR) than the average clueless Meemaw. Similar to many other trash systems, you have to look at the people maintaining the system, not the people using it.
It's nice to see Elon following in his father's footsteps of hurting black people in an effort to get even more needlessly rich. Honestly though, somebody should take Elon back to South Africa and hurl him down a mineshaft.
Funny how the self proclaimed savior of humanity keeps treating regulations like optional DLC: If anyone else ran 59 gas turbines without permits they would be buried in fines. Billionaires call it innovation, everyone breathing nearby calls it another asthma attack waiting to happen.
Don't worry, it's only affecting a poor area. No billionairs are affected.
He, like any shillionaire, sees people as NPCs.
That's why he was so enthusiastic to kill infants, children, teens and adults by cutting USAID.
If he's ever admitted to a hospital, I genuinely hope that he's left to suffer and rot.
I hope Elon dies and I hope it's painful; dying would be the first positive thing he ever contributed to humanity
Shoot him into space on one of his or Bezos' rockets. Watch him explode as a result of the very thing he tried to accomplish.
Spacexs operational rockers are a standard of reliability
Blue needs a operational launchpad first, they kinda blew up their only one
Also that would be a rather quick death
It needs to die ugly. All the musk children need to die or be sterilized. Everything it cares about needs to end, and be thrown into wherever we decide to dispose of used nuclear fuel.
It's shocking that they just seem to sit out there in the open. Afaik they are very delicate and fragile machines.
Would be a shame if something hapens to those…
What would happen if I by accident fly my drone into those fans?
Probably very illegal! Drones would be relatively easy to track versus for example bullets from a random hunting rifle. They should really label every single bullet of ammunition in the US.
Golly, can you imagine if someone maybe hooked up a small tube to fire shotgun shells FROM a drone? That would be awful!
Real inefficent, you will need to fly and reload multiple times to have a significant effect
https://armourersbench.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/sequence-01.00_03_54_10.still006.png?w=1024
Use this and just drop it from a drone instead of launched from a rpg
Could add a frag slieve if you really want, remember that anything wotks
https://www.reddit.com/r/Grimdank/comments/112zn42/next_time_you_think_ork_weapon_design_is/#lightbox
yeah, but much harder to find over the counter than shotgun shells
you mean those military drones that basically do exist already. Hack, I think soon be available on Alibaba as well ><. But instead of a real gun its more like the "Salt Guns" (yeah this is a thing as well now eh)..
Can someone just shoot the bastard?
Or at least sabotage the facility?
As Trump is learning with Iran, if you make enemies by the millions, you risk awakening a plumber.
Other methods are also acceptable.
call me a conservative, but I think we need to stick to traditional laws . . .
You mean good traditional values the conservatives push for? Like the good ol days.
Beaten to death with a used toilet brush.
Some polonium tee, hopefully
Did someone say Nowitschok?
Damn, kickin' it old school!
I swear I read an article about this months ago... is it the same data center and they still didn't stop the gas turbines, or is this another one?
Either way: fuck Musk and fuck the government who laid the foundations for such atrocities.
No,that was portable generator trucks that were not 'installed'. This is new.
You're right!
So, from bad to worse...
No, no. Don't look at it like that. They didn't stop the trucks AFAIK.
It's bad and worse!
it's more turbines, not sure if it's the same site or another
These new ones erase the old ones. Do over!
No, Grok has been classified by the DOJ as vital national security infrastructure and is not allowed to be shut down.
This would be a great time for an injunction to force the data center to shut down all of those turbines until the matter has been resolved legally.
Of course you need to be able to pay for a lawyer who convinces a judge to pass that injunction.
House Republicans include a 10-year ban on US states regulating AI in ‘big, beautiful’ bill
We're at a point where we have to ask whether laws passed are legal.
A judge that Musk and Trump have bought? Or a real judge? Do you have any of those left?
I'm pretty sure that if a judge would grant that injunction there'd be one less a week later.
Gee golly, someone will surely do something…
I was landing in Memphis a few weeks ago, and you can see the literal cloud of pollution surrounding this thing. There's a distinct haze you can see centered on the thing.
I will add this to the list of reasons I'm happy not to live in the USA, as soon as I manage to add new page to it.
Be sure to track data centers in your own area. Granted, they are likely to be better regulated than here in the states.
There is a joke in my country that even apocalypse will come to us with 30 year delay.
Can someone do something about this racist Afrikaans piece of shit?
I fail to see the relevance of race on this context. Its like they want to pit us against each other but this is a class issue. Its us vs the oligarchs and they are presently winning
Musk comes from South African apartheid blood money. His grandfather moved to the country because he liked said apartheid, iirc.
The US also suffers from an abhorrent history and current climate of racism on top of its deeply ingrained classism.
Not sure how deliberate the choice was, but exploiting and hurting marginalized communities seems to be a honed skill of the Musk family (not counting his kids who disowned him ofc, especially his daughter)
Edit: Yep, I was right. From Wikipedia:
We're talking about America here. Everything is a race issue. Its almost apartheid.
I guess the turbines were build near a neighbourhood that mostly houses black people.
Yeah OK, I take your point.
I don't disagree with that. Generally the way I see it is the capitalists love identity based politics cause it divides us but really we have a lot of common struggles. I'm not saying I am going to pretend to understand totally what its like to be black in America and I see that are different challenges but I don't want to lose focus on the primary issue which is wealth inequality
Yeah it's a class issue. Being white alone won't get you in their club. But they also really hate darker skinned people and go out of their way to be extra shitty to them.
The two things aren't exclusive of one another.
You mean like the CEOs of Microsoft and Google or?
They definitely don't hate people of Indian decsent as much as they hate african-americans. And a few successful people with darker skin does not indicate that the regular people are treated fairly?
I suspect its more to highlight musk's contribution to systemic racism and race-based inequality than to try and divide us by color lines. In an ideal world, racist shit like this should unite us even more through our shared disgust at how abhorent their behavior is.
I don't know how they are winning. I haven't given them any of my money.
They are winning if nobody makes them tear down such illegal constructions.
I guess it's easier to ask for forgiveness (pay a fine) than it is to get permission (acquire a permit).
Does the environment care about a fine?
Well, I know the fine doesn't care about the environment, if that helps.
JC, every other post on here is about data centers, Elon Musk or White House legislation. Can’t we talk about technology instead of US politics?
Feel free 😄