Zohran Mamdani is reshaping the Democratic Party faster than anyone expected
New York City Mayor Zohran Mamdani, once a figure of contention among leaders from both major political parties, has seen a remarkable surge in his political standing just six months into office.
The 34-year-old democratic socialist, a prominent figure on the progressive left, has garnered unexpected praise from both Donald Trump and New York Governor Kathy Hochul.
He has also emerged as the face of the region's sports renaissance. Now, days before New York's primary elections,
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"We were surprised to discover that, underneath all the bullshit, people just want happiness, peace and opportunity".
I'm not partial to some of his politics, but he seems like a genuinely good guy. Both parties need more good and young guys and gals, Republicans most of all, but Democrats too.
With enough people like Mamdani, we could finally advance beyond a two party system.
Not if it's still FPTP. Spoiler effect is too strong, more split "left" means right wins
Explains why NYC elected Mamdani with ranked choice voting, then! Any candidate in favor of FPTP wants the right to win.
Mamdani only won 50%…..in NEW YORK CITY.
He's a literal socialist IN THE USA.
50 PERCENT IN NYC
They changed the rules. We will never see anything other than the Democratic Republicans in the US
Oh, so we can get even less shit passed through Congress?
Perhaps.
Once again, how ya gonna get stuff passed through congress with splitting potential left leaning votes. A majority of this country is conservative.
The party of old rich white billionaire needs to fresh new faces for sure.
They're both the party of old rich white billionaires..
That's the joke
Any chance you could share which of his politics you find disagreeable? Is it his views on the genocide that pissrael is comitting in Palestine?
Isn't he self-described as a "democratic socialist"? (I mean, his faction aren't super radical socialist as far as I'm aware, in terms of trying to bring about a workers democracy. The NYC "city run" grocery stores are just contacted out, not actually city run. But hey, it's way, way, way better than what other US political factions are doing)
Mild steps away from the neoliberal consensus are necessary perquisites to break the back of the propaganda machine.
Oh I don't disagree. Just pointing out that 1. Socialism isn't a dirty world like the meme above implies and 2. That Mamdani calls himself a democratic socialist
baby steps, baby steps.
Democratic Socialist =/= Socialist.
Indeed, hence the second half of my comment :)
As he should. We need to take any populist progressive momentum we have and use it to run the Democrats out of town. Along with the republicans. The two parties are just a black hole of corporate money.
Because, you know, he has and will continue to reject that money. Because he is so great and has such great ethics and morals....
Totally wouldn't become the exact same thing. Or worse.
I’m not sure if you’ve met a real Mainer. You’re talking about the out of state assholes the DNC installs in our state 🤣
We truly is reshaping and healing the state of NYC.
Good?
We can only hope that this is true. I'll buy it when I see it in Illinois.
you know mamdani is still a democrat right? He is still approved by the richoids of america, y'know the guys who've been terrorizing the world for decades, and he already gave up on being anti cop. Ultimately guys like him are just there to fool you that the system can be change by voting, doing slight improvement so the system survives until it can take those improvements away.
They fought tooth and nail to keep him from winning, just like they did Bernie.
It's just a show. He is still there, not to mention Bernie sanders is also a Zionist who turns American rage at the system into votes for democrats. I mean come on, Zoharan said he'd defund the police, where is that now?
The system has improved by voting. Like, take a quick gander through history. We're in a down trend right now, and we need to fight, and fight to improve the system, but to deny that the system can change by voting is to deny history
No, the system never ever improved by voting. It only ever improved in response to fear of revolution, and any "improvement" through voting was nothing more than a temporary concession, Britain used to be the face of social democracy then Thatcher came and since then standard of living has been constantly getting lower, Obama brought Obama care(which was absolutely not enough) because Occupy wallstreet happened, then trump came and gutted it. You can't change and improve a system that's built to keep you down, by working from inside of it
As I said. Denying history.
When has ever long lasting improvement came from voting then?
14th amendment ring any bells?
19th amendment?
24th?
You think these changes came just from magic? No, they came from concentrated work of activist groups, and that strongly includes elections. You underestimate the effect of pushing people into elections that are sympathetic to the causes, even if it's not too many.
These were results of constant battles and fighting until the ruling class was forced to give concessions.
Yeah sure buddy. Sure the voting meant nothing. Sure.
Occupy Wall Street: 2011
Obamacare: 2010
sorry, my mistake. i mixed up some events in my memory
You’re 19.
Have a snack.
liberals are going to be shocked when his successors revert everything good he's done, as always
Fell for it again rewards for all americans
Planted by whom? The democrat establishment that dragged their feet on giving him any support whatsoever? The republicans who were urging their own candidate to drop out in order to give Cuomo an edge? High roller donors who were desperately trying to prop Cuomo up? Seems like the entire establishment across the political spectrum was against Mamdami. The wealthy and powerful clearly did not want him in office, I don't think there was some 5D chess gambit behind their opposition.
Isn’t he born in Uganda, disqualifying him from being a candidate for President?
TIL - Conspiracy Theory Debunk'd. Thanks for the realization.
He's six months in and like ⅔ of the way through his campaign promises. And that's with standing against ICE and dealing with both an extreme winter and and extreme summer. He defeated multiple establishment-backed candidates. And he's managed to do this all without any major scandal.
Plus, if this is a psyop by the right, it's absolutely backfiring. Mamdani is showing the electorate how a government can work for its people. That's good for people, but terrible for the establishment.
I realize where the cynicism comes from, but "they just don't change" is always true right up until it isn't.
Got anything to back that up?
You're not going to get leftist polices from democrats. Vote left.
I'm not an American, so I could be incredibly wrong here, but don't you have a two party system? If you don't vote Democrat, who do you vote for?
The person you replied to is trying to help make things even worse. Especially in a post about primaries, which Are the opportunities to make things better.
The US has over 50 parties, depending on where you vote.
Democrat, Republican, Green, Libertarian, Constitution, Peace and Freedom, No Labels, Progressive, Socialist, etc
Yeah and not a single one is actually relevant outside of the big two.
They are relevant only if they can act as spoilers for one of the big two parties.
This is not true for voters who have rank choice
Yeah, in two states and some cities. Big deal.
Then why do I only ever see (R) or (D) behind names in your government? Why don't I hear about the Green party candidate for Senate, or the Libertarian in a state legislature? I mean, you say there are other parties, but if they exist surely someone from one of them has made it into the government of a state or to the federal level at some point.
Not trying to be argumentative here, just trying to understand.
You're probably watching shitty corporate news that's intentionally trying to tell their viewers that the only option is the 1 party (both democrats and republican parties are nearly identical when you zoom out to include progressive policies)
The US has great independent media. Try reading something run by a nonprofit that does not take money from corporate sponsors.
CBC BBC Reuters...
And it's not just them, but those tend to be my primary y news sources.
Diversion aside, can you name any examples of non Democrat or Republican legislators at the state or federal level?
He's a DSA member! I'd call him a DINO if he wasn't evidently reshaping it.
I'll vote third party as soon as the next guy, but if the Democrats decide to run an actually good candidate, then I'm not holding a grudge.
Isn't DSA a separate party?
Progressives have been hoping for someone like Mamdani to actually win an election for a long time, now. If he is what finally instigates a break in the wall the Democratic party has erected, it's not surprising that others are picking up their sledgehammers.
Democrats are plenty progressive, Mamdani's policy stances are pretty normal, but without state and federal majorities we're not gonna see fuck all for change.
But leftists are both useless and totally destructive at the same time according to neo-liberals.
I hope this brings enough change to make the Democrats actually progressive instead of giving lips service to it then doubling down on corporatism.
True leftists, like any medium-small minority, can make or break any coalition of medium-small minorities. And likewise, they can't really direct policy all on their own, because the rest of the minorities in the coalition aren't on board yet. One minority can't make it, but they can break it.
I also hope this brings progressivism to the Democratic party. That would be a good way to bring more of the coalition on board.
Thank you!
The thing that drives me crazy is when progressives act like they have a massive majority of the people behind them.
Back in the day, Jerry Falwell leveraged his Moral Majority into power by sending his church people into every local GOP club.
If the usual attendance was twenty folks, the MMs would show up with fifty. They might only have fifty followers in the whole town, but all of them were there where it counted.
It won't be easy. We must keep getting progressives in office if you want more than lip service.
the Democratic Party is a lot less monolithic than people make it out to be, it’s just that a lot of influential people in the back end have been fighting to keep progressives out, arguing that they needed to stay close to republicans to win “moderate” voters.
More visible progressive wins will erode that narrative and allow various parts of the coalition to abandon the neoliberal orthodoxy imposed on them by corporate consultants. We can’t get anywhere untill that dead weight is dropped. Maybe the Democratic Party won’t be the one to adapt to the new conditions, maybe something new will take their place, but nothing is going to happen till that narrative is dead.
The Democratic Party has HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of politicians in it. From far left to center right.
There are Leftists in this thread who are saying Mamdani's no good because he hasn't done everything he promised.
Who cares if the Dems go progressive? It's the voters who are important. The Republicans kept resisting the rising far right movements like the Tea Party, and then MAGA, but the voters just bulldozed right over them.
The corporatist establishment Democrats all made it extremely clear that they would prefer a corrupt asshole like Adams for Mayor, but the people told them to go fuck themselves, and now the DNC has no choice but to get on board.
The voters don't have to do what the DNC demands, but the DNC has to live with whoever the voters force upon them.
The DNC will continue to ratfuck progressives in primaries and has historically burned down the house before letting progressives take over.
Like Bernie and Hillary.
The DNC has been pretty progressive for about 16 years.
Its hilarious how people think this is even practically possible
We're literally talking about a progressive that just became the mayor of the city that is at the very heart of American finance and capitalism. AOC could get elected president and you would still be saying it's not practical.
AOC is a zionist, who cares?
Literally, not with that attitude
attitude doesnt matter, its just not possible practically.
Leftists already attacked him for not firing the cops involved in last winter's snowball fight.
Kamala Harris received 1,748,140 votes in New York City,
Zohran Mamdani received 1,036,051 votes
Thank goodness he wasn't getting more help from the Left.
Damn, almost like, there was some sort of third party candidate splitting the vote in his election.
Or the fact that people are idiots and a large % only vote every 4 years
Kind of proving my point there.
People had a choice between a known molester, an idiot, and the Democratic Socialist and the DS barely edged through.
It's almost as if the progressives don't have a commanding majority and have to work with others if they want to advance.
I mean, he still won a significant majority even with the vote split. And he won a majority In precincts that trump won In the election.
A more interesting question is, if there had been a been serious candidate to the left of Harris in the general election, would she have polled more like coumo did?
I don’t think it’s safe to assume that she would have won more votes than mamadani did in the same situation. And comparing the outcomes of a national 2 candidate race to a local 3 candidate race is not really telling you anything unless you introduce the counterfactuals and do polling to fill in those gaps.
Right now we’re seeing a lot of polling showing democrat socialists candidates outperforming corporate democrats in a lot of battle ground and purplish red states. Arguably attempting to appeal to coumo type voters damaged Harris’s chances In battle ground states by alienating unaffiliated voters.
Could just tell them what's been told to progressives for decades, "Vote blue no matter who."
I can't think of one time in recent US history that a 3rd Party candidate split the ticket and hut the GOP.
In fact, the GOP regularly throws money to the Libertarians and/or the greens if they think it will help them.
If people had voted blue we might not have the Supreme Court that threw out Roe V. Wade.
You might want to read up on Frederick Douglas. In 1860 he had a choice of supporting a strong Abolitionist or Abe Lincoln. Lincoln had repeatedly said that he would keep slavery if it meant keeping the Union together.
Douglas knew all the horrors of slavery first hand, and knew that it made more sense to win and be on the inside than to lose and no be heard.
Ross Perot in '92 maybe?
Lmao
We have a real bad "No True Scotsman" problem
I edited my comment to point out that Mamdani got fewer votes than Harris did when she ran in NYC, and Harris did worse against Trump than Biden did.
People vastly overestimate how popular their positions really are
lol You mean a presidential race got more votes than a mayoral race? Ya don't say?
Mamdani got 51% of the vote going against sex criminal Cuomo and shock jock Silwa.
Harris got about 65% of the NYC vote.
No way can you pretend that 'the Left' beat the dems.
That's still over 9% more than the runner up got.
In a three way election.
Without the support of his own party.
With tens if not hundreds of millions of dollars spent on 24/7 smear campaigns against him by both major parties.
With a unanimous local billionaire-owned media alliance fearmongering about him.
While spending a total of $10.7m
Compared to all that, the unequivocal DNC leader getting 65% in a presidential election where 100% of the party political machine was behind her, she was the only alternative to a literal fascist idiot and also sex criminal experiencing severe cognitive decline, and they spent over a billion dollars is absolutely PATHETIC.
Because general elections historically always have higher turn out. I think that's what they're trying to get at specifically.
Lmfao.
Amazing what electing somebody who wasn't born in the 1940s can do!
There are tons of young fascists.
Thanks to Beijing's TikTok psyop theres a brand new generation of fascists from the USA to Germany.
The fascists are on Russia. They have literally been funding right wing extremism all across Europe and the world for decades, as a matter of stated intent and strategy and they've been caught doing it straight up.
Tiktok only exacerbates the issue, but make no mistake, Russia bears by far the biggest part of the blame.
Meh.
TikTok led to the largest shift rightwards among youth voters ever recorded in the USA.
It isn't just conjecture it is measured.
Por que no los dos
are there? hard to say with none of them in charge of anything.
Seems to me when we get the boomers out of the way, a lot of problems also go away. ever notice how racism and sexism is much more prevalent and "normal" with older people? Stands to reason that putting those people in care homes and out of power would make drastic improvements to society.
Perhaps, but then we'll have the more difficult problem of having to fix things ourselves with nobody else to blame. If you think Democratic Socialists have all the right answers, you're gonna be a bit disillusioned soon.
Happy to give it a try. It cant possibly be worse than bribed corrupt stand-for-nothing centrist genocide supporters or open fascists.
Teachers are having trouble with boys as young as 8 not listening to them because the manosphere tells them they shouldn't respect women.
Pretty much everyone went to school with some Young Conservative type who was weirdly into politics at a young age.
I think it depends on your definition of "young", but there are the folks like Kyle Rittenhouse, Jacob Chansley, Ben Shapiro, and tons of other netizens younger than Joe Rogan with their hate-mongering podcasts. Being emboldened in the way they are, more seem to be popping out of the woodwork instead of being shamed or reformed into better viewpoints.
So if you can name 4 shitty young people then all young people are shitty, thats your assertion?
Unfortunately, these are all young people with a vast following of young people. Not to mention Charlie Kirk, Andrew Tate…
Young people skew left and that’s a fact, it’s not a supermajority like it might seem on places like this.
They are exemplars of what befuddled you from the other poster's note of young fascists out there. Forget about that and just look towards basic reading comprehension to better prepare you for understanding complex concepts like examples.
Are you familiar with the Joshua Generation at all? Literally a training ground for christo-fascists that trained former and current senators.
There's absolutely young fascists currently in charge. Heck "DOGE" was nothing but a bunch of 20 somethings allowed to enact part of their fascist wet dream.
Putting the blame on age and not class is why you're getting so ratiod
Ratioed? Kharma's not a thing here so who cares. And maybe I've just met more old people than you have.
Also your Joshua generation thing doesnt show a prevalance for idiocy in youth, just that some exists. Idiocy in the elderly is a fact of life. Brains dont get better as they age, and the context they grew up in doesnt keep up with the times they live into. I dont care if people like it, people dont get smarter or more relevant to the times as they age.
There's not karma but it's still a good sign of how many people disagree with your argument and experience.
Your original comment was to someone saying "there's plenty of young fascists". Didn't say anything about prevalence, just that there's enough to be a problem. That' prevalence argument is bullshit you added. You've said they aren't in charge of anything. You were given direct evidence of examples of young fascists existing and being in charge of things.
You trying to make it an age based thing is just asking for trouble because it's setting up complacency instead of fighting the fascists no matter who they are.
"I've met more old people than you" is such a dumb and weak argument I legitimately don't even know where to begin there.
No. Using inductive thinking is the bullshit you started with. You cant use a small sample size to make generalizations across a group of people. You have to deal with any discussion of a group of people by talking about them in terms of proportionality or percentages. You cant say "mushroommonk on Lemmy doesnt underdstand the most basic logic, so clearly no one on Lemmy understands basic logic." Thatd be bullshit. Get it?
Except the group being discussed is the group of young fascists. That's it. The entire group is the ones that exist. Your false equivalence trying to extrapolate from there is adding another group.
Please just go learn some basic reading comprehension. I'm not the only one to point this out.
I'm out
JD Vance?
At the very least, the younger generation would have less lead to addle their brains.
Or at least different kinds of addling. Although, I suspect that algorithmic social media does less long term damage than persistent developmental lead poisoning (SERIOUSLY, WHAT THE FUCK? LEADED GASOLINE?)
Oh, like they should have been developing - heh - what, electric cars?!
Okay Space Commander Hippie Love!
/s
already has made drastic improvement everywhere else in the world outside of the USA, Israel, Russia..
all still run by rapidly aging boomers.
To be fair I think this guy has actual talent for this kind of work.
Oh god. I didn't do this math. This means that the same people in that age bracket were kids glued to the TV during all the McCarthy-era bullshit. No wonder.
don't forget decades of breathing aerosolized lead!
Not to mention global radioactive contamination from nuclear weapons testing and the occasional reactor meltdown!
This is how MAGA took over the republicans.
Now we just have to convince leftists to get out and vote in the primaries and generals which might be a chore.
Except the leftists did vote that's why he's there? Maybe it's because he wasn't a shit tier neo-liberal candidate like the Democrats have put up in the last election.
He was up against Cuomo in NYC.
I’m pretty sure Hitler could run as a democrat there and win.
Don't forget Curtis "I'm Walkin' Here!" Sliwa
With seven percent of the vote I’m pretty sure he forgets about himself.
Cousin Nicky!
Kamala Harris received 1,748,140 votes in New York City,
Zohran Mamdani received 1,036,051 votes
They hate this fact. Mamdani only got 50% in deep blue NYC
Kamala did worse than Biden in New York. She won, but people looked at Trump and a Black woman and chose the rapist.
Mamdani is doing better than I'd have hoped for, but we're still deep, deep in the woods. Now isn't the time to start demanding perfection.
It’s almost like Biden got the most votes ever and 2024 was a red wave year. If Mamdani had ran in 2024, he prolly be less than 50%, still a win, but closer. Thats just how elections are. Candidates rarely overperform wave years against their party.
Kamala could run again in 2028, and with a strong Dem wave, could easily break Biden’s margins. It’s not that complicated.
I imagine you'll struggle to find any locally elected politician anywhere who got a bigger turnout than that for the presidential race.
Which is odd, considering how much local law affects you
There were early voting options in that election.
Mamdani was very lucky because the incumbent, Adams, got caught in a major scandal before the election.
But even running against a know sex offender and a radio DJ he only garnered 51% of the vote.
Things are different now that he's been elected, but let's not pretend that he was swept in by a giant Progressive wave.
Sex offender and a radio dj.. Do you not know Trump is president?
So you agree? That progressives aren't that popular in america?
You know how many comments I've seen from lefties calling him a liberal plant? Never gonna happen.
I haven't seen that at all
Try reloading the comments for this very thread then, because it's like half the comments here
I see literally one downvoted comment
And we all know how well Lemmy comments represent real life lmao
The only thing leftists are good for is destroying their own chances of creating a political party then blaming the liberals for it.
Not, you know, workers rights, the weekend, higher wages, greater social mobility, higher standards of living, higher wages etc?
Try listing an accomplishment from the last seventy-five years.
Where did those goal posts go?
What was the most recent accomplishment of the six that you listed?
How about China lifting 100 million people out of poverty in 10 years between 2010 and 2020? Seems pretty significant if you ask me.
So you’re a righty?
No just a realist.
Ahh, white man over 50.
Amazing.
Sexist, racist and ageist in five words while also being completely wrong.
Then stop acting like an old white man screaming at clouds and blaming the liberals
Can you tell me his accomplishments?
Fixed the NYC budget within 100 days of taking office.
Got shitty landlords to fix thousands of apartments.
Didn’t bend the knee to wealthy people.
Doesn’t talk in empty platitudes like the typical DNC centrist Zionist.
Importantly, he did it without reducing services or raising taxes.
Didn’t he do it by messing with pensions down the line instead?
Prove thousands of apartments are fixed.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/zohran-mamdani-rent-forgiveness
He didn’t just fix them but he got the tenants paid.
Did you try doing a web search or are you just trolling?
You wouldn't look at the proof and just ask another loaded question and move the goalposts anyway
A list of items isn’t proof. It’s asking for sources. Which they did. Thanks for your input.
"Which they did"
Did you forget to switch account?
feel free to believe/not believe on the small changes users are seeing here
No it's your turn to give proof, prove that no apartments are fixed.
Since you believe everything you (want to) hear without question, that should be pretty easy lol
I would say this answer is exactly what I expected to get, a total nothing burger.
I would have been surprised if you actually had something to say other than Mamdani = bad.
Just out of interest which side of the spectrum are you from, is he not communist enough or do you have problems with his race?
u rn
Can’t see images sorey
You cant convince me that you haven't seen article after article of shit he's doing and just decided not to click it. Do a Google search troll.
Can you not be a little shit for two seconds?
In a sea of shity news, why do you have to be the turd that makes it's way into the punch bowl as it just tries to stay afloat on the surface?
Are you a plant? Trying to creative division?
I'll take any good news in the leftward direction over the waterfall of bad news we scroll through everyday.
Grow-up. Stop fighting with people who agree with you on the big picture stuff.
Do you really think being a little shit to someone after telling them not to be a little shit is going to make them care about anything you say?
Just makes me feel more justified tbh. Thanks
I didnt say it for you.
I said it for anyone else reading this far down the thread.
So your toxicity has some level of counterbalance.
So some people can realize we can disagree but still work together.
Because the only way you get what you want is by working for it. Not spitting in people's eye when they're already feeling hopeless.
Toxicity is subjective.
People who are toxic say shit like that.
More justified to keep being a little shit? Weird take.
Maybe just stop being a shit.
After you.
Balanced budget. Massive improvements in roads and transit. Helping fix food "desserts", etc.
Deserts ≠ desserts
Clearly you haven’t tried my wife’s baking.
That's not enough. They're going to cheat in every way possible. They've been telegraphing it for months.
But he's not the right flavour of Democratic Socialist.
Sorry but it's four more years of fascism. I don't make the rules.
no real "leftist" would ever vote for the genocidal democrats
And that's why the US marches ever to the right
I mean this guy does have a profile pic of Mao lmao
"forgot to attach gigachad"
No, you cant defeat right wing by votes. The US is marching right because its the logical conclusion of capitalism and american society. It has nothing to do with not voting democrats
Not just wrong, insanely wrong. That's exactly how it's done. You can't do it overnight if that's how you mean.
It has never happened and it never will.
Also wrong.
no
Uhh...what has never happened?
Are you intentionally proving his point?
just stating facts.
You defile the word "fact" with this usage
I think this depends on what moral framework you have
not voting for rabid capitalist, imperialist, zionist party is the bottom line for being a leftist.
@Tolc @A404
so, VIVA LA REVOLUTION?
`yess
@Tolc
go ahead and organize, buddy.
I am.
Electing someone who is actually DOING STUFF for the city he's elected to run? I mean, yeah we should totally hate that. 😩
He has certainly achieved many things from his list. Which I think is a good thing: politicians are obviously supposed to do what they promise to do.
The actual effect of those changes will be seen in the next decade, not right now. I mean the economic changes like rent freezes, childcare funding, "affordable housing". Devil is in the details, so those things might go fine or they might go pretty badly.
Yeah, wtf is wrong with Mamdani.
Doesnt he know hes supposed to make big promises, then do none of it while giving handies to CEOs in his office before selling his citizens out for literal pennies per person?
TBF he's renegged on a lot of his plans and watered down all of his enacted ones.
Pretty normal for the DNC.
electing someone who even understands what their job even is seems to be a welcome change. Schumer claims his whole job is keeping the dems in line with what a foreign power wants. And almost all of congress seem sto agree. Thats not their job at all. And that rot goes top to bottom through both parties. The president and judiciary also dont seem to understand what their jobs are anymore. Cops too, no frickin idea what they do exactly.
Cops document events and threaten violence. Well, instigate violence as well, but only the Rotten Apples™.
Good and carry on. The USA needs a progressive left president too.
Republicans, propping up Mamdani?
Interesting strategy. But you know what they say, never interrupt your enemy while they're making a fatal mistake.
Let's hope it works out EXACTLY as well for them as Hillary's Pied Piper strategy of boosting Trump did!
Optimal tip-to-tip efficiency?
Love him!
FTFT. If he can spur change in the country, excellent. Democrats in Idaho still have to work with Idahoans. They don't care about the Nicks.
Just saying - red states are still red states. New York wasn't that kind of red.
I'm guessing you don't either? New York Knicks
Oops. I thought that looked funny. Eh, whatever.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DZuwMviJzk-/
Seems pretty good
I have a horrible feeling he's going to be assassinated in the not-too-distant future. I really hope I'm wrong.
Doubt it. That could trigger a insurrection
reshaping the imperialist party to fund healthcare of americans instead of giving it to billionaires. He has no problem with the imperialism part
I just explained what socialism means when it is preceded by "democratic" in the west
He's not very socialist, no. But based on your take that socialists on the west are imperialist simply for existing within an imperialist nation, something tells me you think anyone who's the enemy of the USA must be great. (Do correct me). And that usually ends up being tankies.
He's been outspoken on the genocide in Gaza, at least. Which is one of the USA's proxy imperialist projects.
USA, Russia, China, they're all terrible in their own way. We don't get to choose where we're born.
I'm a socialist (edit: not a "democratic socialist", like actually a socialist who wants revolution and institution of a worker controlled society) in Australia. Am I okay with imperialism too because of Australia's actions?
In conclusion, Mamdani isn't gonna bring about socialism, but he's certainly not as bad as you're describing (that I can tell, so far).
No, according to me socialists in the west are imperialist because they behave like that. How many times has zohran spoken about gaza after getting elected? I think its 0. I think anyone against the US isnt great, but they are better. I dont mind you calling me tankie, I support the soviet union, cuba, vietnam, maoist china, etc.
USA is clearly by far the most terrible of those nations. We must apply the lesser evilism that liberals apply in every election.
Mamdani allows west bank land sales in NY synagouges, he isnt that bad if your moral compass revolves around western left
From what I can tell Mamdani has been speaking our against these events. So he's spoken about Gaza at least once since election... Though I am neither from NYC nor the US, so don't know in great detail.
Again, Mamdani isn't a socialist, and isn't gonna bring about any sort of meaningful restructure of US society. But it seems like a stretch to say he's actively supporting US imperialism given the scope of his power.
Lesser evilism only really applies when no other choice exists. In the US voting system, you must vote for the lesser evil, because first past the post is trash. The part that people haven't been doing at large scale is still continuing to bring about change outside the terrible voting system, 1. at a minimum to fix the voting system and 2. to build workers movements that use things like, unionism, general strikes, protests, boycotts and eventually revolution to overthrow the ruling class by (mostly) peaceful means by numbers (and probably some violence when there's inevitably a retaliation by the ruling class).
But not voting in the US and feeling high and mighty about it is really stupid.
Luckily, in Australia, we can at least preference, meaning we don't need to deal with that particular hurdle. Though it's still not democratic as representatives are unrecallable, and like all capitalist counties, the real power is with the capitalist class who put their finger on the scale to get their desired outcomes.
Lesser evilism in the context of world governments is absurd (i.e. supporting Russia, China, Iran, etc just because they're not the USA), especially socialists who believe in international worker solidarity.
We get absolutely nothing but supporting totalitarian regimes, be they in the US, Russia, China etc. We ought to be supporting workers in all countries to achieve socialism, not bloody the ones in power just because their ruling class are enemies of the US ruling class... (and for the record, China, Russia and Vietnam are all capitalist countries... one needs to delude themselves to believe otherwise).
In conclusion, it's weird that you don't mind being called a tankie, because it hints are your disregard for democracy and self-determination.
And by definition you can't really call yourself a socialist if you don't believe in democracy, since how else can a society be "worker controlled" if the workers don't get a say over society....
I never said to "not vote" I just said vote 3rd party
No its not, you are engaging in western chauvinism
Your mistake is that you think all working class across all countries operate on same frequency while thats not the truth, working class of imperial core benefits from imperialism and thats why they are very lenient. The american worker manufactures weapons which are then used to bomb iranians or palestinains, american worker got the money, he is then brainwashed through media, workers of different nations operate on different layers thats why widespread worker solidarity without addressing the leniency of many workers is bullshit.
Tankie is a slur used online against anyone who supports soviet union, maoist china, castros cuba, ho chi minh's vietnam etc. In that sense I am a tankie and these experiments were far more democratic than whatever west offers.
"Anyone disagreeing with me is a heckin tankie"
is this not "all or nothing" thinking?
change is incremental
for your change you need 10-15 consecutive election wins otherwise one republican can undo all it at once. Not that democrats do good work to even get re elected. Structural change is not incremental
He's the mayor
nobody cares