Spyke
lemmy.blahaj.zone

Tate looks like a potato you forgot in the back of a cabinet and started to grow

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Antaresreply
fedinsfw.app

To be fair Tate grew a lot more tates.

At least potatoes are nutritious and respect women.

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arrow74reply
lemmy.zip

You make an excellent point. We have never buried Tate underground to test this. Maybe he can do the same as the potato.

Let's at least give him reasonable doubt and bury him. Then after 3 or 4 months we'll have our answer

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To run a fair test, we need to divide a body into different sections each containing an eye. Or part of an eye.

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cmbabulreply
slrpnk.net

Now you listen here! You got a problem with potatoes you got a problem with me and I suggest you let that one marinate

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prostitution and sex trafficking. But besides that not much...

oh wait I forgot, he doesn't support the independence of women; just sex trafficking.

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feddit.it

"Human males are more attractive, look at peacocks"

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If they really want to sell tickets for that UFC fight, they should make a couch shaped like a peacock and have Tate and Vance battle for the right to fuck it.

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FatVeganreply
leminal.space

I always love when people make the connection with ducks for example. Like have you seen a female duck? Yeah they aren't as colorful, but their pattern is way more interesting and they are absolutely beatiful in their own right.

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lemmy.world

Also, idk, I think that what an ape thinks looks good has little bearing on what avians find attractive. For all we know male ducks think that bright plumage is unattractive.

Like for real, would parrots looking at us understand what we see in permanent large breasts? Or would they look at our other comically oversized sex characteristic (large, exposed penises without a baculum) as the primary showy mating display. Or would they see us as a species where sexual selection has resulted in both parties having a display to show off? Would they think that from their perspective it's obvious which looks better?

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lemmy.world

I find women so attractive that I don't care if they have a dick or not. Damn

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Pat_Riotreply
lemmy.today

Shit, I must be really gay then, because I like soft, cuddly women.

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Wait, how does this work? I love big strong hairy men. Does this actually make me straight? How am I going to explain this to my mum after all these years

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Karjalanreply
lemmy.world

I asked 3 women in my vacinity abs they said "yes"... Maybe they're onto something 🤔

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lemmy.world

The Greeks invented sex but the Romans finetuned the concept by finding out you could also have sex with women.

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Faridreply
startrek.website

The original copypasta uses "orgies". Since, you know, you can't invent something that has existed before even humans.

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lemmy.zip

Guess they've never seen all of the statues of Athena, Artemis and Aphrodite. You don't get as many nude female statues because it was usually considered obscene for women to be naked in public.

But the Greek male statues were fully nude and depicted ripped mortal men because they were made in line with Aristotle's idea of good art being educational. Those were arguably the marble version of "git gud, scrub".

If there were more male "perfect" body statues at the time, which we can't establish because many have been lost over the millennia, it might actually be evidence that men were considered less attractive and they needed more body shaming to fix it?

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fiat_luxreply
lemmy.zip

The penis thing is pretty hotly debated, but savagery comes pretty close to my understanding of the theory you mention. It's not a hugely different concept from some of the manosphere stuff you find today though.

Basically the idea was (it's theorized) that thinking with your dick leads to making hasty and bad decisions, but you want to be like the cool smart intellectual philosopher rhetorician dudes ruling society who are strong enough to control their urges. You want to be the civilized powerful master strategist, not the uncivilized weak-willed destructive glutton. So... because art needs to be about reality and be educational (there's no place for that creative abstract shit), we're going to de-emphasize the body part associated with urges that are difficult to control. These are powerful rational dudes afterall.

The biggest difference with modern manosphere bullshit is maybe the part where they shrunk the pps on the ripped marble dudes to make that point. Instead we get... social media statue and peacock "science" analogies.

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fiat_luxreply
lemmy.zip

Phrasing. But yes, some of them - they seemed to prefer making plaster and metal fig leaves thankfully. Michelangelo wasn't thrilled about being told to change his work either. Some of them were whacked off earlier than the Catholics, and some were whacked off by the Vatican even as late as the 1850s in "The Great Castration".

Many of the lost appendages were accidental though, natural disasters and the like did a lot of amputation and decapitation, to the point where there are entire catalogue methods for mismatched heads on statues.

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If we had? We have sculptors. We have people making sculptures. You don't have to guess what they would make.. but yeah, it's bulges..

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I think Nemesis is Roman, but probably a copy of a Greek statue. I might have chosen to forget because the "restoration" work on her head breaks my heart - but I know that's a common problem. Such a pity because the drapery is gorgeous.

Looking at this Diana/Artemis, who was much luckier than most statues by having her original head reattached, you can see how different it is. The proportions make much more sense.

Image text description below image:

Photo of a marble statue of Artemis (aka Diana), which lives at the Louvre. Artemis is mid-step reaching for an arrow in the quiver on her back. In her other hand she's pulling on the antlers of a small deer that she has caught. She's wearing a short and practical belted tunic (chiton) appropriate for hunting, functional sandals, and an equally pragmatic hairstyle with her wavy locks in an up-do. Her arms and legs are neither skinny nor super muscly, they're very average looking. But, being a goddess, she's got a tiara. Not an ostentatious tiara, a simple solid tiara. A utility tiara, if you will. And being a female goddess, you can still see her nips pushing on the intricate drapery of her chiton. She's clearly got some sex appeal carved in, but the statue is of a capable person who is independently getting shit done.

I love her because she basically looks like the kind of woman a modern conservative commentator would condemn for subverting gender roles. Also with a proportional head.

Diane de Versailles - Louvre catalogue

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lemmy.world

Right they were "lost over time". You've got a bunch of ripped naked Greek guy statues in your basement don't you

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fiat_luxreply
lemmy.zip

I wish I had both any cool ancient things and any basement to put them in. I think the oldest thing I own is maybe 100 years at best.

I think I'd be terrified to own anything much older too, conservation is hard.

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the hardest part of conservation is learning how to do it. like, i play saxophone and the instruments literally die and need expensive if you go too long without playing. how to take care of a sax? make sure your mouth is clean (like, rinse it out with water at least) before you play. ABSOLUTELY do not eat anything or drink anything other than water (not even flavored water bullshit) while playing unless you want to go brush your teeth before picking your sax up again. don't leave your spit swab in while it's in the case even though it fits so perfect in there, and play it regularly (like at least once a week but once a day is better) to make sure the cork doesn't literally die. so sax conservation boils down to playing often and keeping your mouth clean.

guess how i ruined my first sax dudes. it was not doing this shit above.

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Anikireply
feddit.org

You don’t get as many nude female statues because it was usually considered obscene for women to be naked in public.

eh idk i'm pretty sure that's an opinion that started in england, much later, not in ancient greece

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fiat_luxreply
lemmy.zip

It's possible that it is a more modern idea that we've attributed to being much earlier, that does happen a lot, but I'm inclined to think it's not entirely baseless.

We know for example that the nude Aphrodite of Knidos by Praxiteles caused enough of a stir to become a tourist destination, and even she had a conveniently positioned hand covering her goods. Kore statues always had clothes on too, unlike their male counterparts.

I could maybe buy the possibility that almost all of the nude women sculptures were stolen and later destroyed, either intentionally or accidentally, but that doesn't quite work either. To not find any older nude sculptures in modern times, plus the odd detail that none of the nude ones we do have (copies, admittedly, and I don't know all the statues either) have anything other than Barbie-smooth instead of even a delicate line suggesting labia... seems odd for an art culture that progressively got more caught up with hyper realism.

They did get nuder and more realistic with time, but we've got nothing from the archaic period without at least a skirt on, usually more.

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Would be funny if all this manosphere shit was just a ploy to turn more twinks gay, so Tate could finally have the harem of his dreams.

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lemmy.world

Yes. To be clear, all this makes them even stranger (and deeper in the closet?) than I previously knew.

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A deepened disdain is different from general disdain, curse of knowledge and all that.

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Can't say for sure. It wouldn't change that all these people are trash. Let's see, if true it's sad that their stuck in a world that tells them it's not on to be who they are. And thus feeling like being shit stains of a human is the better than loving the right person. If false someone else is lieing, these guys are horrible people, no lies necessary.

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I thought the same thing, and tried to find the 2 replies. In the grand scheme of things, it does not matter though, because all three of these ghouls would say whatever gets more attention because they are amorphous blobs of shite.

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Soupreply
lemmy.world

There was a quote I saw recently that said something along the lines of the idea that if your satire becomes indistinguishable from that which you’re satirizing it ceases to be a joke and just becomes more fuel for your target.

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sh.itjust.works

During high school I was friend with a guy from a village known for their conservative takes. And while this guy certainly wasn't as left as some of my other friends, he liked to fuck with his football teammates by making the take that gay sex is manly.

Why? Because it involves two men. Hetero sex wasn't as manly because it involves a girl, and lesbian sex was as girly as it got. His teammates really didn't get that he was fucking with their worldview.

Now he definitely had very idiotic takes himself, but this one always stuck with me because it's just so easy to troll any insecure right winger with

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As a lesbian I've definitely seen plenty of gay interactions that are so gendered that I feel most people of the other gender wouldn't be comfortable participating, especially conservative straight people. It's really funny to me how this stereotype of gay people as less gender conforming (while it absolutely carries a lot of truth to it) results in people not even considering that sometimes gay sex is just two really masculine men going at it in a manly way or two women being extremely feminine together.

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lemmy.world

The "on average"-qualifier in there working like a lifeboat on a plane falling from the sky over the Sahara

Also

Does this man actually know what "gay" means?

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I begin to think he means that in original meaning...

"I dumno which rapper is beefing with which other rapper because I am not happy"

"I agree man are more attractive on average because I am not happy"

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lemmy.world

Well.....maybe he just thinks "beefing" means shoving their beef stick intothe others man hole.

If he thinks thats what beefing is, I could see why he thinks it's gay.

I mean, he's wrong either way, but that would explain where his viewpoint is.

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djdarrenreply
piefed.social

Beefing is when you're getting fucked in the arse so hard that your partner manages to get some air up there, so you fart. Like queefing, but with none of that gay vagina stuff.

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feddit.org

can't they finally just come out of the closet. Guys its 2026, its totally fine to be gay, no need to be a fascist idiot just because you're trying to hide that.

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lemmy.world

Is this real? Did asmongold really say "thats why women need makeup"? Women need makeup because there is an entire insldustry dedicated to making them feel bad about their looks so they can sell makeup that makes women feel better. The makeup cause damage to their skin that can only be covered up by more makeup. It is instilled in them from a young age and perpetuated by older generations influencing younger generations.

What am i saying. Of course he said that. He is a fucking moron.

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lemmy.world

I mean it's not like any of these men have ever listened to women, much less read any feminist theory with an open mind. And gods forbid they notice that unshaved women who don't wear makeup can be gorgeous.

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lemmy.world

Why would you read something with an open mind that wasn’t written in good faith?

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eh, not all of it is bad. early feminist literature was really good, it turned to shit when it got mainstream

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I don't think so.

It happens everywhere, but especially when blasting famous people, Lemmy is rife with AIgen / photoshop jokes. The whole "fucking women is gay" bit is a popular 4chan joke, so I feel fairly comfortable assuming this is a creative work.

These don't usually get me, but I constantly fall for the ones about fake technological advancements. I just want to believe!

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Krudlerreply
lemmy.world

Dunce... makeup has existed for thousands of years

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Right, but worn by men and women alike. Makeup today is targeted at women and filled with harmful chemicals that close up the pores on your skin, cause greasy spotty skin that cracks with time and make makeup a necessity not a choice.

In fact in the victorian era it was widely regarded by both sexes to be Vulgar, primarily associated with sex workers.

It is a very recent thing that has pushed for marketing it at women specifically. Within Last 100 years or so. Especially post ww2.

Who is the dunce?

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Honytawkreply
discuss.tchncs.de

There is nothing as manly as gay sex.

It can only be performed by real men. If a women is involved, it isn't gay sex anymore.

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daggermoonreply
piefed.world

If the sex is between two men and one woman, regardless of who is penetrating who than it is 66.66% gay.

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I've heard something about the writers complaining that writing got more difficult because life was getting even weirder than the series or something like that.

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Tate knows this is nonsense. He gets more subscribers and more money every time there is outrage about something he said. Don't share.

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lemmy.zip

Well you know the old saying, "are you man enough to fuck another guy?"

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VitoRoblesreply
lemmy.today

There was that meme where a guy said he was the most straight person ever because in college, he blew a guy, and then had sex with him, and both times, he hated it.

So he was 100% confident that he was straight. So if you never had gay sex, you'll never know and so you're just a uncertain straight.

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I mean, that kind of makes sense. I have tried with ladies and it really doesn't feel like sex, it's not off-putting, I could do it like a performance but it's not a turn on either. I don't think experimenting means you are bi.

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lemmy.world

Actually, I'm pretty sure his is pretty small......wait, what are we talking about?

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lemmy.zip

Says the 3 ugliest people on the entire planet.

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JennaR8rreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

Well he's part of a huge disinformation campaign funded by Palantir so his opinion about anything will be confusing & nonsense. In fact all of this is disinformation because one of Palantir's objectives is to reduce world population, and trying to turn everyone into homosexuals is one of their strategies.

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No no... no.

This... no.

No no no no no, no.

This is waaaaay too on the nose.

You know around 20 years ago it was basically a crass joke/insult to just say that these kind of people are ... their entire personality is a performance to avoid confronting latent homosexual tendencies.

Me? Yeah, I'm bi, I kissed a dude and I liked it.

Maybe a little more than that eheheheh, ahem.

But I can also guarantee I'd fucked more women than Asmongold and Nick Fuentes, 100% guarantee. Individually, and also likely combined.

Maybe/hopefully not more than Tate as the dude is literally the master of a sex rape dungeon you're not allowed to leave.

... these fucking people.

These fucking people.

They're infinitely more gay than I am, Jesus fucking Christ.

Just... they're cult leaders of an anti-reality cult.

Gay is Straight, if you think about, bro.

... I want to tear these people apart, limb from limb.

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I wish the Nazis would fuck each other and leave women alone. No really, you do you.

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lemmy.ml

They just missed the fact that attractiveness is subjective.

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lemmy.world

Do they all just want to suck each other off? I mean fine if that's what you want to do but don't be hateful to everybody else because you're into it? Such weirdos

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If you haven't noticed there's a huge agenda in the media (which is run by billionaire elites) to turn everyone into homosexuals in order to cull world population.

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lemmy.world

I'm pretty sure that the Nazi at the bottom is gay, so you're not entirely wrong.

Edit: huh, he claims to be attracted to women, so I guess I'm wrong there.

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It's hard to believe only a few years ago, we had this concept known as "parody horizon". People used to say super wacky shit and you had to use your brain power to figure out if they were Beyond the Parody Horizon. Are they saying hilariously stupid shit for sarcasm points, or are they saying weird shit that is just telling?

Unfortunately, the horizon is dead. These people are just... too gone. They can say stupidly telling shit from time to time, but what the hell are we supposed to do about that? Nothing's gonna work.

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lemmy.world

Not one person in the conversation has seen a naked woman, or regularly uses soap.

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kkjreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

Andrew Tate is a convicted sex trafficker (of women). I'm pretty sure he's seen a naked woman.

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lemmy.world

Is he also calling all the men (main characters) sexy in videogames?

I saw a very insightful video about this topic.

Women apparently do not find these game characters sexy (nor gay men apparently) and then the straight men who think they are and strive to look that way will say that the women are laying.

That made me wonder who they want to impress, other men? Themselves? Or they are just in disbelief that they put so much work into something that only attracts other straight men?

I shouldn't take this serious but it is funnier that way haha

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Honestly, that is just overcomplicating something very basic for the sake of polarization, views and manufactured rage. People want esthetically pleasing things, and that doesn't need to mean sexy.

Do I find some male videogame characters sexy? Yes, very. But most importantly, we just want our ape brains to go "Engagement and dopamine, yay".

Do men need to devote days to unlock mirror mode in the latest Mario Kart? Nope, but in a world this depressive and bleak it is an achievement, and sexy doesn't even factor there.

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Stares into mirror at Gordon Freeman goatee and fake glasses that I wear everyday.

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That made me wonder who they want to impress, other men?

Yes.

Fucking people and looking like you fuck people are two different categories, and frankly, women being allowed to choose the winners here has always been very frustrating for them.

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But they don't. They don't get to choose how men want to look. And they don't choose who they like, this is something two people chooses. otherwise it's a serious crime.

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Andrew Tate: "Having sex with women is for total homosexuals.

Me? As a true gangsta that I am, I give and take it up the ass.

I may be known here as Top G but in my cell in Romania I am known as the Bottom G."

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If Blowfly were still with us he'd say that's what your bussy's made for

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lemmy.today

To me it varies by age group.

Women are the prettiest in their 20-30th and men are their best looking in their 30th-50th. Men gain a lot of character by aging a little bit.

Its also common that women are attracted to older men, and men are attracted to younger women.

Seems natural and driven by biology.

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RBWellsreply
lemmy.world

Huh. I'm a straight lady but feel the opposite - as I get older I really wish I was bi, women around here hold up so much better than men.

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1984reply
lemmy.today

I've met women who can turn a man gay too. :)

Its just people and sometimes they are awful, sometimes they are great.

Culture also varies a lot in different countries or different regions even, and therefore also people and how they act and feel. It's quite possible you would vibe a lot better with men in another country. Something fresh and interesting and not so god damn boring. :)

I like Italian women for example, full of life. But not when they become fat. That's a big issue for me personally and it just kills attraction.

I think taking care of the body is essential, and if you don't, it will look like crap when you get older. I go to the gym and lift weights and its absolutely necessary to stay fit, in combination with eating food that is good for the body.

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RBWellsreply
lemmy.world

I agree with that last paragraph. Am more than half a century old and it really becomes apparent who takes care of themselves.

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1984reply
lemmy.today

For sure. You can look good at 50 too, its just about how you eat and exercise and if you stare into screens all day.

Im 51 soon and I just did 60 min at the gym and then a 90 minute walk in the forest. Of course I dont have to work which makes it a lot easier. I was constantly tired when working and watched Netflix, ate bad food etc.

So its not about discipline, it's just about collecting money while working and then being able to stop working when you have enough. I worked 25 years. Felt like that was enough. :)

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RBWellsreply
lemmy.world

Huh. I have worked 40 years and raised a bunch of kids, not as much leisure but holding up fine. I do work at a sports company though, people take long lunches to go for a run and we have a gym too. So there is both the flexibility and resources to stay fit. Really nice perk.

Honestly don't mind working now, it was harder when I was younger with kids at home and not as much seniority at work.

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Its ok to be more hot for men you don't have to perform a mental gymnastics excuse and cite biology man just lick dicks it is very easy to ask men for a lick

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