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What is a big internal debate within a fandom or hobby you are a part of that outsiders probably wouldn't care about?

In the Lord of the Rings fandom there's a persistent debate whether balrogs, or Durin's Bane specifically, have wings. The text in Fellowship is ambiguous whether what it is describing are literal wings or something else wing-like.

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SPN, they dint sexualize/gay the leads til the after season 5, apparently it was due to Fanfiction, thats what the new writers did, if you notice it got pretty cringey and wierd around 6 and7, and some of season 8, they mostly continued it after those seasons. many fans dint like the sudden change in characthers, and then the ones that did became a little psycho(threatened 1 of the actors so she woulndt return to the show, and acted all wierd on those comi-con meetings.

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lemmy.world

Star Trek (Voyager): Was it murder to split Tuvix back into Tuvok and Neelix?

I've got a long and complex possible solution to offer regarding this ethical clusterfuck, and I'm willing to elaborate if someone's interested to hear it.

Edit (possible solution): Voyager's database should include the Enterprise D's information regarding Riker's duplication incident. While Voyager's crew already found a way to separate Tuvix, they could've searched for a possibility to repeat that process and then split back the copy Tuvix a few milliseconds into the original Tuvok and Neelix before said copy became self-aware.

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That’s what makes it a good story though - an ethical dilemma with no clear “right” answer.

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crank0271reply
lemmy.world

The longest and most complex solutions are usually right (yes, please share).

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lemmy.world

Two characters got merged into one completely new character the had traits of both, but was their own person. Decision was made to forcibly (against the new character's wishes) undo the accident and restore the two people. In so doing the new character no longer existed.

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lemmy.world

I'll have two number 9s, a number 9 large, a number 6 with extra dip, a number 7, two number 45s, one with cheese, and a large diet coke (I'm watching my figure).

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They should have just kept replicating Tuvix with the transporter and using him as fuel.

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lemmy.world

The Riker split depended on a plant on that one particular planet. Maybe it cannot be replicated.

Fully embracing that technology would have loads of chaotic outcomes...maybe they forbade it or something? Ripe for abuse...the ability to make infinite free clones or people...

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lemmy.today

they did it again LTD. anyways, janeway practically groomed 7 of 9, not in a sexual way but trying to mold her into a daughter she never had.

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lemmy.today

she did mentor her, but she also kidnapped her, hence the grooming/molding in her ideal image.

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She didn’t kidnap her, she rescued her from her actual kidnappers though.

Like, it’s somewhat nuanced, but seven has been neurologically modified by a group that killed her parents and uses her as a weapon. I can’t really see the makeshift therapy that janeway performs to try to refamiliarize seven with humanity as grooming.

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leftzeroreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

They used a transporter, so yes.

Every use of a transporter where someone is disassembled is murder, or possibly suicide.

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Yes, they could have just printed out a new copy of Tuvok and Neelix, and left Tuvix alone. The restriction that you can’t just make copies never made sense. Are there souls in Star Trek? Is the soul the thing that is actually being “transported” into a new body substrate?

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Alternatively we're just data (as muteable as a save file) so neither of them died at any point as Tuvix was a valid continuation of both their continuities, similary when Tuvix was split again Tuvok and Nelix also constituted valid continuations of Tuvix's continuity.

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So I was under the assumption that every time they beamed someone up or down they murdered them and an exact copy appeared elsewhere.

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Yes and she was right to do it. Except maybe she should have made a backup so she could have done it again

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AndyMFKreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

That's the beauty of tabs, it can be whatever you want.

But the correct answer is 4

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naught101reply
lemmy.world

I'm a spaces guy, but agree on the 4. A coder told me decades ago that 4 is better than 2 because if your code starts wrapping due to too many indents you should be refactoring it into functions anyway.

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naught101reply
lemmy.world

In part, because it forces 2-space tab users to confront the indentation issue above

Also there are no drawbacks.. I still hit the tab key to indent (and shift tab to dedent). My editor does the rest.

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piefed.social

The drawback to spaces is that people with vision issues or dyslexia lose the ability to make the code more readable in their IDE by adjusting tab size.

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I can't speak to dyslexia (but in would guess that 4 spaces is easier than 2?).

At my last job we had a default linter policy of 4 spaces across all languages (python, JS, rust, mostly). We also had a blind coder. He never mentioned it. I'd guess screen readers are capable of dealing with it these days?

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You can do the same thing with a linter rule, without forcing everyone to see the code in your preferred way.

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Speiser0reply
feddit.org

Also there are no drawbacks

That's just not true.

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lemmy.world

Tabs are one space *quickly runs away*

I use a single space to indent when writing Python in a SecureCRT command window that gets sent to an interactive Python shell on the server.

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Tabs are one space *quickly runs away*

Run all you want, but we will find you!!! 😉

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lemmy.ml

I might have the solution: Elastic Tabs. They di what tabs were always meant to do from the start, whilst also fixing the shortcomings that spaces are currently used to fill.

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Ænimareply
lemmy.zip

Wtf is this witchcraft and how can I use it in VS Code?

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kbalreply
fedia.io

I've heard of 8, 4, and even 3 which is pretty crazy... how could it possibly be 2!?

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lemmy.ca

2 spaces is pretty common in JavaScript... And I think I remember it being pretty standard in HTML way back when. Screens used to be smaller, with low resolution. 4 spaces was a luxury.

Isn't 2 spaces the standard in Ruby? I don't use it, but I've heard such things.

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kbalreply
fedia.io

Two spaces sure, but that's for people who don't use tabs.

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This is my experience as well. These days, fewer than 4 spaces is downright unreadable to my aging eyes.

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TAGreply
lemmy.world

3 is a tab width compromise. It is wider than 2 but not as wide as 4. No one is happy but not as unhappy as they would be at their less preferred extreme.

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kamenreply
lemmy.world

However many I feel like that day. Sometimes depends on the language and use case - if it tends to be deeply indented, I'd gravitate towards 2.

If using actual tabs, you can change how they appear just for yourself without touching the actual code; the same can't be said about spaces.

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slrpnk.net

I was trying to stay out of the fray but this one I feel I have to respond to:

tabs, you can change how they appear just for yourself without touching the actual code; the same can't be said about spaces.

This is why I use spaces. A space is a space everywhere, a tab depends too strongly on the editor. I've had too many times where I had to edit on a different machine and it transmogrified my tabs into a different non-character entity in a way that didn't reveal itself until later.

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I can kind of see your point if you're speaking from a devops/sysadmin's point of view (i.e. something that would require you to use default editors on the go on systems that you don't necessarily have control over).

Other than that, a tab's principal purpose is indentation. One tab is one level of indentation regardless of how it appears. If a tab gets transformed into something else, it sounds like a text encoding problem and indentation would then be just one of (and possibly the smallest of) several possible issues.

I'm speaking from a web dev's point of view - I'm assuming that I'll always have my own configured editor on hand and I'll be able to tell it that one tab is N spaces, sometimes even differently for different file types in the same project. Worst that could happen is that I don't have a specific configuration and the editor just falls back to the default until I set otherwise. Since I'm working in a team, using spaces for a source controlled project would mean that everyone has to use the same. Having tabs means that everyone can configure it for themselves (assuming editor configs don't go in the repo).

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This way people from both sides of the argument can hate you. Win-win!

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mander.xyz

I collect coins, and there's always debates about what a coin is.

For those who don't know, a coin is usually defined as an object with legal tender status somewhere; as opposed to a token that has a face value but is issued by a non-state actor; and a medal, which is anything that looks like a coin but doesn't have any face value.

Now, aside from the expected debate over what is and isn't a state, there's also the issue of NIFC (not intended for circulation) coins. Many mints sell coins that are legal tender, but are never put into circulation, some people (often those that could be characterised as "old school") take the position that as these aren't intended to be used as legal tender, they aren't really coins.

It doesn't help that there are tiny island nations like Niue and Samoa that will basically let companies make anything legal tender if they pay them. This leads to the rather silly situation where a batarang, and a literal statue of hogwarts, are technically "coins". (I've been told this is done as a import tariff dodge as the USA doesn't charge import taxes on coins)

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Dasusreply
lemmy.world

Imagine being a Samoan shopkeeper and some tourist showing up and trying to pay with a friggin statue of Hogwarts.

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id accept it as payment, record a video of myself melting it down and making it into a small blahaj figurine, and make the video public to spite and annoy jk rowling and the harry potter fanbase

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lemmy.world

What the fuck is wrong with Samoa? Like, I can speculate but my speculations are unkind. I don't want to go there.

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starikreply
lemmy.zip

It has the same size population as Sioux Falls, South Dakota. Weird stuff happens on islands.

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lemmy.world

Weird stuff happens on islands.

my dude, that's a thought stopping phrase. weird shit happens everywhere. there's this toilet in boston

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starikreply
lemmy.zip

Ok, it’s probably your racist thing then. Happy?

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I don't know if I'd go so far as to say "racist," but I can see how someone might think you sound xenophobic. If I didn't enjoy interacting with your posts so often, I could see how someone would see your tone as trying to "other" and shame an entire culture. But I know that's usually not where you're coming from.

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starikreply
lemmy.zip

What were the “unkind speculations” you wanted to hint at but not articulate?

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fedia.io

Cooking:

Aioli is made with oil and no egg. If it includes egg, it is a mayonnaise.

Many people just call everything "aioli" these days, even if it's technically a mayonnaise.

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sopuli.xyz

In my experience, people will put garlic in mayo and call it aioli.

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It is absolutely an aioli. You just have to de-emulsify it, separate out the egg, and then emulsify the non-mayonnaise ingredients. It's not like it's chemistry or entropy or whatever.

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Nibodhikareply
lemmy.world

I don't think that's an internal debate, I think everyone who understands about the topic knows the difference between aioli and garlic mayo. It's people from outside that use the wrong term, so not really an internal debate.

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Drusasreply
fedia.io

That's not been my experience. I think a lot of people feel like it's lesser to call their dip a mayonnaise, so they call it an aioli. Especially at restaurants.

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I'm pretty sure you're being sarcastic, but I'd passionately back this stance. Emulsions are a goddamn art, and need to be respected for their insane range and joy.

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Sure, but that's just the restaurant trying to sound fancier than they are, they know it's not aioli. It's like when they say they have wasabi but bring you a paste, there's no debate that wasabi is a root but that most restaurants will serve you a green paste that has 0% wasabi in it. Which is why places that serve real wasabi or aioli usually have it listed as "real wasabi" or "real aioli", both to clarify they're using the correct term and not the popular one and to warn people as both aioli and wasabi taste different from the mass produced garlic mayo and mustard paste restaurants usually serve.

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Oh cool, did not know this thanks.

Now I can properly judge hipsters who call their overpriced mayo aioli lol

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jlai.lu

How does one get the emulsion started without egg or mustard ?

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Yep, this.

Anyone who hasn't should give it a try. Takes a bit of mixing to get it emulsified (you could probably do it in a food processor), but aoili is so delicious and underappreciated, at least here in the US. Add some salt and a touch of lemon. Dip some roasted veggies in there. Yum.

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Nibodhikareply
lemmy.world

Garlic is an emulsifier, less potent than egg, but still an emulsifier. Which means true aioli is EXTREMELY garlicky (as it is almost 50% garlic), it loses some potency over time like most garlic things, but freshly made aioli is something you don't put a lot of (and may be part of the reason most restaurants don't serve it)

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I think I use about 1:3 ratio of garlic to oil. It is quite garlicky.

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piefed.social

Should the hobby continue to be about both the act of printing and tinkering with printers, or is there a reasonable place for people who want “3D printing” as a hobby but not “3D printers” as a hobby. As part of this, is it okay for a company to lock down its firmware and prevent people from using their printer over a network without going through their software first?

Bambu Lab has made remarkable progress in “mainstreaming” 3D printing but they’ve done so at the expense of a lot of the “soul” of the space. Unlike many of their consumer-facing predecessors and competitors, they are closed-source and proprietary. They make a good product, but you don’t get to have control over it the same way you do with other brands. And that just means other brands are likely to follow suit, now that Bambu Lab has shown it to be an effective strategy.

I mourn the loss of common purpose the hobby once had, but at the same time I do think it’s a natural progression for something new and complex to eventually become consumer-grade. Look at how computers have evolved into rectangles we keep in our pockets.

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lemmy.world

I want the printing to be the hobby, not the printer, but I also don't want the consumer-hostile stuff that Bambu is doing to spread.

I'm stuck with an A1 mini and don't know where to go from here. I'm not an engineer and haven't had much luck designing anything more complex than a single static part, and I think you really have to be good at making your own stuff for a printer to be a good purchase. But at the same time I'd really like more than a 7x7x7 inch build volume.

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papalonianreply
lemmy.world

and I think you really have to be good at making your own stuff for a printer to be a good purchase.

It really depends on what you want to use it for. I have the skills to make decently complicated parts to print, but 9 times out of 10 I'll just see if someone has already made something similar and use that instead. If you know you're gonna be prototyping a bunch of things or testing weird shit out then yeah you should probably know how to operate a CAD program, but if your use case is, "this plastic thing on my very common appliance broke, I wonder if I can print a replacement?" or "these little flexible dragon things are cute" then you just need to know how to use a search bar and your slicer.

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lemmy.world

if your use case is, “this plastic thing on my very common appliance broke, I wonder if I can print a replacement?” or “these little flexible dragon things are cute” then you just need to know how to use a search bar and your slicer.

I've designed a few things, like these pill bottle holders.

I've also "reverse engineered" (It's literally just a wedge) a doorstop that works surprisingly well. I keep misplacing ours at work.

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Those simple designs are the foundation of the more complex ones you will create in the future. If you have need and determination, you can design anything!

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paranoidreply
lemmy.world

I keep falling out of the hobby because I don't want a printer to be my hobby - I want printing to be my hobby. But no matter how many times I try to pick it back up, my printer never produces a good print.

I'm on the other end of the swing again - looking for tuning tutorials to help get my cr10 printing well. I am very open to suggestions.

I do like tinkering with the printer, and I do want that control, but eventually it gets to a point where I just want it to work

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I think it's like cars for car guys vs cars for people who just want to get from place to place. I started with Elegoo and got really sick of all the fiddling it took to get a decent print. I got a Bambu and it just works. I know it's a "walled garden" but in the end I can print whatever model I want and it comes out great most of the time.

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I have it deliniated into 3d printing hobbieiests and 3d printer hobbieiests. Printing people are about what the printer makes Printer people are about building and making the printer do more and more.

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lemmy.world

Programming and Linux. Oh boy, what to pick...

Terminal text editors: VIM vs Emacs is the main debate there. (There are others but these are ones people argue the most about)

Linux Distros: Arch, Debian, Mint, CachyOS, ...

Init Systems: Systemd vs OpenRC. Honestly, probably the most toxic debate on this list.

Programming Languages: Python, Shell, but the heated one is C vs Rust

A non-exhaustive list of ones I couldn't think of a category for:

  • Tiling vs Floating Window Managers
  • Chromium vs Gecko-based browsers
  • Bash vs Zsh vs Fish

I love computers and Linux, but man, the amount of toxic in-fighting and gatekeeping is a real turnoff. Just use what you want. At the end of the day, we are all nerds doing what we love.

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lemmy.ml

I am team...

  • Nano

  • Arch

  • Systemd, I don't see what the fuss is about that TBH

  • I don't wanna even touch that one lol

  • I like the carousel kind of things like Karousel or Niri

  • Gecko (Librewolf, Floorp etc.)

  • Zsh

But yeah I agree, everyone should just do what they want. Having lots of options is one of my favourite things about Linux.

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heretic! the only dogmatically correct setup is

  • helix
  • fedora
  • systemd
  • rust
  • whatever fits your workflow
  • gecko
  • nushell
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actually prefer Windows

I don't understand. I recognize the words, but in that order, they make no sense.

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slrpnk.net

Nobody prefers Windows. Some people used to prefer the software suites exclusive to Windows.

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Nobodymost people on Lemmy don't prefers Windows. FTFY

Linux users need to stop assuming everyone is wrong for needing things that Linux can't do at all or doesn't do well. I need accessibility. Linux doesn't do it well. Over a decade and a half of trying to make it work has proven that. Some people need Adobe or MS Office (even though many may not like it), and Linux doesn't do that at all. They're not wrong, their needs differ from yours.

And it doesn't matter whose "fault" it is. Apple fanboys do this, too. If an OS doesn't offer something you need, that's where the conversation ends. They don't care what internal politics at the vendor or lack of community interest by Linux devs or whatever lead to the thing they need not working. All they care about is that it doesn't work.

And no, they're not going to take night classes to get a comp-sci degree so they can code the drivers that their peripheral needs.

"What's that, you need a claw hammer but I gave you a ball peen hammer? Pfffft, just become a blacksmith and forge your own hammerhead, it's not THAT hard." --Every Linux user

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I prefer Windows. Every experience I've had with Linux has been a nightmare.

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neovim, opensuse tumbleweed, idk, idk, floating, gecko, bash

my experience is limited tho, and im not strongly opinionated

i like the vi/vim/neovim editor control scheme, not tried much else, nano seems ok too from my occasional use of it

i use opensuse tumbleweed because its rolling release but still pretty stable and installation is easy but allows a lot of customizing, many other distros are good for many other things too, fedora popos and mint are great easy desktops, debian and nixos are great for servers, arch gentoo void nixos and artix are great desktops for nerds, etc. the bad ones are ubuntu (canonical is weird and corporate and makes bad decisions), manjaro (the devs are incompetent), and omarchy (it preinstalls nonfree software (including nordvpn (ew)), ai, and more nonfree software (including chatgpt (even more ai ew) and twitter))(as you might be able to tell i really hate it, its just an installer for some moron's desktop setup, thats what nixos is for you fucking twat, and its crappily opinionated with crappy opinions)

ive only used systemd distros (opensuse, ubuntu, fedora, debian, raspbian) so idk whether systemd alternatives are better, i just know that systemd is pretty bad in many ways

and im not that much of a programmer, but pretty much all languages are good and useful (except that javascript is useful but not good)

i like floating wms (i use kde plasma) because tiling is a bit annoying (sometimes i want a window to be a particular shape) and because tiling is usually in wms that are not des, ive tried sway and hyprland and the mostly keyboard based control was nice but it not being a de that provides all of that useful stuff was annoying

gecko is better because its more libre, the corporation behind it is dedicated to libre rather than being one of the world's biggest and evilest megacorps, and it incorporates more pro privacy design. i use librewolf. gecko is poorly separated from firefox tho so im quite hopeful for servo engine now that ladybird is vibe coded slop being rewritten in rust by the cult

i like bash because its the typical well known linux shell that many online resources are about

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piefed.social

Mycology is full of them which are mostly the result of genetic sequencing and the good old "where do you draw the line between species" question but a recent and high visibility one is the Collybia shift.

Before genetic testing, Collybia was a genus characterized by smallish pale-spored mushrooms with convex caps, no ring, and gills which are broadly attached to the stem (the simplest shape the average person would imagine for a mushroom), this became one of the classic "statures" of mushrooms "Collybioid". As we sequenced Collybia species, they were slowly moved into other Collybioid genera like Collybiopsis and Gymnopus. Eventually this resulted in most of the Collybioid mushrooms being moved out of Collybia, leaving only the earliest-discovered mushrooms in the genus which were tiny parasitic mushrooms that weren't really Collybioid at all.

Here's an average "Collybioid" mushroom Gymnopus sp.

Then things got worse, a recent paper did a study on genus Clitocybe which is another genus which has a classic stature named after it, "Clitocyboid" which refers to smallish pale-spored, funnel-shaped, mushrooms with gills that run down the stem. This paper discovered that nearly everything we had been calling "Clitocybe" actually belonged in Collybia meaning that most mushrooms in Collybia are now Clitocyboid instead of Collybioid. This has resulted utter chaos which has some mycologists considering invoking the "common usage" rules in taxonomy to put the new Collybias back into Clitocybe to make things less confusing. This chaos has been compounded by the fact that iNaturalist has already accepted this name change, but only for the mushrooms explicitly studied in the paper and not their known relatives which has resulted in the Blewits being split between Collybia and Lepista (which itself was a recent name change from Clitocybe that everyone was still adjusting too).

Average nondescript Clitocyboid (no ID because these are nearly impossible):

A Blewit, AKA Clitocybe/Lepista/Collybia nuda:

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lemmy.today

alot of plants phylogeny is like this, they looked similar enough they are the same species, after doing enough testing, mostly mitochondria, choloroplast they actually are combined into one genus or move into another one. my favorite is mycoheterotrophs(plants that are entirely dependant fungi rather than photosynthesis), thismiaciae was originally though to have evolved in burmannia family,and then thier own family and then back again.

finally in the 2020s they realized even thismiacae is polyphyletic. so now south americans thismia's are likely belonged to another genus entirely(they havnt done significant phylogenetic studies in the SA ones)(seperate from the ones in south east asia, australia, and 1 extinct one in usa which makes it very unusual for it to appear in america), thismiacae is now a full family, and afrothismia was originally included in thismia, until they genetic testing, its entirely "new family" interdependently evolved but related to the ancestors of thismia. trying to trace lineage of mycoheterotrophic plants is difficult because they lose thier cholorplast genes quite easily.

its only because they all looked very similar to each other, they were all combined into one family.

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Pipsterreply
lemmy.blahaj.zone

My friend is a palaeobotanist and recently tried to see if I (a microbiologist) could understand her presentation on taxonomy for ancient plants. I found it very weird to find out that the different parts of the plant retain the names they were described as even when integrated into the plant as a whole.

Like if you find a dino skull and call it 'skullosaurus' then somebody finds a femur and calls it 'femurdon' then later finds both in the same fossil, 'femurdon' gets retired and the whole thing is 'skullosaurus'.

But with plants you can separately describe a female organ as 'femonia', a male organ as 'maleonanthus' and a leaf as 'leafopteris'. Then somebody finds they belong to the same plant and not only do you just get to pick what to call the plant somewhat arbitrarily based on the organ prevelance, age, leaf or even an entirely new name but the original parts still keep their old names as separate taxa. I still can't get my head around this 'whole plant hypothesis' thing...

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lemmy.today

oh yea i noticed the nomenclature/naming is very wierd for some plants. like in thismia, they have 5 different lineages, so they name it "section thismia, or another name based on thier morphology and later phylogenetic data. eventhough they have an established genus name,SECT geomitra, labiothismia,,,etc, which isnt a genus but it was originally named because thats the first specimen they found of a specific species. they call alot species phyllocladus, because the "leaf" is actually the stem, but its also the genus name. im guessing plants are complicated/ or look similar enough to each other you cant tell the difference until you do genetic testing, which they dont do on alot of plant lineages, like the mycoheterotrophs i mentioned, they are tricky to resolve.

and the genus is sometimes generic named like phyllocladus, xerophyta(an actual genus). oh yea paleontology is probably easier to resolve, if you can find extant or extinct animals that are similar, and just name it in the same genus.

orchids are also a fun family of plants , especially if you notice they are all mycoheterotrophs to begin with, its just the ones we see switch to full photosynthesis, but some are mixotrophs, and some loss thier chlorophyll entirely.

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Pipsterreply
lemmy.blahaj.zone

Its so confusing. My friend gave me permission to share her slides on it, its just a few but I think it helped me understand.

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it is confusing, so it seems the name is based off the researchers description of the first and the last one who finds the new species, and feminize/masculinize the name too. it also seems theres not consensus as a standard for it, and can change at any time with new research. like with some plants like dracaena and sansierva, the latter absorbed into the former it gets more confusing.

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lemmy.world

In the Sonic fandom, there’s a debate over which is the “authentic” Sonic: the Western version or the Japanese one. It’s not about design, but rather personality, values, and attitude.

The thing is, the differences between the two are very subtle. Unless you’ve been in the fandom for years and have seen enough material on the subject, they’ll seem exactly the same to you.

My opinion is that "It doesn’t matter"~♪. At this point, there are countless versions of Sonic (the classic, the modern, Sonic SatAm, Sonic X, Archie Sonic, IDW Sonic, Fleetway Sonic, Sonic Boom, Sonic Prime, Movie Sonic...), all with their differences, but in general they share the, let’s say, “essence”* of the hedgehog, and that’s what matters.

*(If you’re not from Latin America, you won’t know how funny it is that I used that particular word)
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_NetNomadreply
fedia.io

with Sonic, it would be faster to list what isn't a big internal debate

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reddthat.com

Sonic the hedgehog actually existing in fiction might not be a big debate

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Sonic has one of the most divisive fandoms I've ever seen.

On the one hand, you have some very talented individuals like LakeFeperd, Stealth and Christian Whitehead who have created fan projects and original games that best Sega's own efforts. But then you get the unhinged parts of the fandom, and then Chris Chan.

I don't like how the r/sonic, r/sonicthehedgehog and r/moonpissing subreddits have been getting littered with a mix of borderline softcore furry porn and comics focusing around cringe character ships lately.

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piefed.world

Hm, authentic? in which sense? to some source material? how the character I'd integrated in the world? in regards to which one was first and how the other deviates? or is it a "quality" change of character thing?

this is somehow interesting to me now. never really had contact with sonic

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It is interesting by itself.

It’s not so much about the source material, cuz in that case there would be no debate: the first Sonic was the Japanese one, period. The issue is more of an almost philosophical nature.

Sonic loves freedom, but what is freedom? What would a completely free person do? Would a free person even have a moral code? If Sonic is free, is he a hero? Would a free person crack little Spider-Man-style jokes? If Sonic hates oppression, why would he work for the monarchy or the government?

One could argue that the Japanese Sonic was the starting point and the Western version his evolution. When does something become or cease to be “authentic”? Is it authentic only at the beginning? Does it remain so until the end?

Things get absurd and annoying when idiots come along to invalidate other people’s opinions and tastes by saying things like, “Your Sonic isn’t the real Sonic. The only legitimate Sonic is [insert favorite Sonic].” You know, the usual gatekeeping.

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frantically coloring in Sonic’s arms at a GameStop, armed with pepper spray

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Punk/metal/goth/hardcore subcultures and the nature of gatekeeping, poseurs, “selling out”, politics, social causes, and scenes that started out as youth culture now approaching 50yrs of development and have oldheads who never left as well as their grandkids joining up. For the most part the 90s “sell-out” idea that finding mainstream success is betrayal is gone so long as the band continues to be who they always were, some bands are naturally talented and will breakthrough into broader appeal. Gatekeeping can keep a community safe from predators trying to gain access to spaces where youth and intoxicated adults are just trying to have a fun time without having to fear exploitation. Sometimes youth come in trying way too hard and miss the point, sometimes the oldheads forget they were try-hard kids at one point too and are missing the point. In the past year I’ve run into a 65yo in the pit next to sweaty teens and watched a Millennial mom take her 5yo daughter to the edge of the stage and gently lower her into a crowd of tattooed, mohawked, crusty strangers who came together and made sure she floated safely to her dad. Also seen some boneheads get their shit rocked, so for all the debates and bickering we’ve never forgotten what’s really important. Best time I’ve had in the scene in nearly 20yrs.

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Yeah, I sometimes get annoyed about the gatekeeping in the hardcore scene (hardcore as in gabber, not punk)

But whenever my friends take me to techno events and I see what happened to the European techno scene after covid, I start to think they might have a point

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lemmy.world

I can't believe people still argue over whether or not Balrogs have wings when the text unambiguously says they do. You can have wings and also have a shadow that looks like wings.

His enemy halted again, facing him, and the shadow about it reached out like two vast wings.

...suddenly it drew itself up to a great height, and its wings were spread from wall to wall...

Like two vast wings but then he explicitly says its wings were spread, clearly stating it has wings. To be the most generous you could try to say the wings are made of shadows, but based on the text they're clearly still wings.

Yes, Balrogs have wings.

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feddit.nu

he establishes a simile in one sentence and reuses it further on. common writing trick.

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lemmy.zip

Exactly. Writing the entirety of "shadows like two vast wings" twice would have been awkward for no reason. (Or it should be no reason, but apparently some people are incapable of understanding metaphor.)

Balrogs - and I shouldn't even have to say this - don't have wings.

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Everything about the creature is shadow, fire, and ash. So if his shadow extends like wings, then they're wings, as shadow is literally part of a Balrog's body.

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It would not have been awkward, it would have been describing what heeamt had he meant that. Seems some people are incapable of understanding that these are magical beings who's bodies may not be entirely made of material that we would expect.

Balrogs - and I shouldn't even have to say this - dohave wings.

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lemmy.world

He says they have wings. As I said, if you want to take that they are made of shadows you can, but they have wings.

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feddit.nu

not in the passage you quoted, no. i know he was meticulous about translation notes, is there anything in those?

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are you still talking about the quote? because tolkien does that all throughout the books. he establishes that a thing is "like" something else, then refers to it by that other thing as shorthand for the sake of tone. or are you suggesting that "from wall to wall" is literal as well?

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In that same passage we also get "Gandalf flew down the stairs". Explicit, unambiguous evidence that Gandalfs have wings.

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lemmy.world

I don't have an opinion on the matter. I'm much more into the worldbuilding and languages than the books themselves, though I've of course read and enjoyed them.

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lemmy.world

the Jackson adaptations also explicitly said that Arwen carried Frodo across the ford of Bruinen, that Eowyn was at Helm's Deep, that Saruman died at Isengard, that Faramir took Frodo and Sam to Osgiliath as prisoners, that Pippin was the one who lit the beacon of Amon Dîn, that the hobbits returned to the Shire and it was more or less the same as they left it, and many other things that explicitly do not happen in the books. should we take all those as canonical too?

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Balrogs have wings because how can you expect to go caving without fried chicken? And what's the best part of the fried chicken? The skin. And what has the most chicken skin? The wings. Not fake boneless chicken nublet basket shit restaurant wings, real wings. So smart ol Balrog goes around trading drumsticks for wings. Of course he's got wings. Quid. Pro. Quo.

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sh.itjust.works

Synthesizers: digital vs analog.

Common opinion holds that analog (specifically oscillators, but also filters and even VCAs [voltage controlled amplifiers]) are warmer and more natural sounding while digital are cold and harsh.

The thing is, digital emulation of analog hardware has become virtually indistinguishable from the real thing, but there is a certain segment that refuses to believe their $5000 Minimoog can be so easily replicated by software (realistically I doubt Bob Moog could tell the difference anymore).

Of course some also choose to argue which is better, which is just ridiculous because they both have their uses depending on what kinds of music you're composing or just what sounds you're trying to make.

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Well yeah, they can't afford to buy music. They spent all their money on the high density crystal core gold connector 1 meter headphone cable.

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feddit.org

Of course some also choose to argue which is better, which is just ridiculous because they both have their uses depending on what kinds of music you're composing or just what sounds you're trying to make.

See, the point you're missing is that my kind of music is just better. If you prefer , it's just because your taste sucks. Try making good music, like . Then you'll see that is clearly superior.

(I have no idea about synthesisers, but I heard similar discussions among e-guitar / amp enthusiasts. I'm just guessing the above parody fits your case too.)

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lemmy.world

Yeah by the time you add effects, throw that synth into a full mix with other instruments, THEIR effects, and all the compression and EQing in a finished track, the only thing that matters is whether that single instrument adds what it needs to add to the whole.

Objectively, digital oscillators are better - they don’t drift unless you want them to, they stay in tune, and they can always be run through analogue filters to add imperfections (sorry, “warmth”).

But it still boils down to my first point: it’s a single part of a multi-part song. As long as it gets the job done, who cares whether it’s fluctuating voltage or zeroes & ones. It’ll be analogue on its way into the listener’s ear canal either way.

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Absolutely. So much nuance is lost in a mix. Not that it's a bad thing, it's just dumb to think a $3000 synthesizer is going to sound better than a $10 plugin when you've got it buried amongst guitar, bass, drums, and vocals.

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leminal.space

You can extend that further to the cranks in the DAW community who swear that their rebranded standard compressor algorithm is somehow different and worth spending hundreds of dollars on. Generally you‘re paying for a different UI and maybe a hardcoded EQ.

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sh.itjust.works

Ugh, compression is a nightmare in general. One person will tell you unless you're using some fancy multi-band compressor on every single track, you're doing it wrong, and another will tell you you should do your best to not use any at all. Add to that many, many people don't even know what it does, and more can't even hear what it does.

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lemmy.world

Send them this guide

And here's a secret they don't tell you - at the end of the day it's art. There's a bazillion "right" ways to do the same thing and if the result is enjoyed be someone, mission accomplished.

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Sims 4 is a good game (though not as good as 2 or 3) but it's a bad experience due to shitty monetization practices like microtransactions.

And personally I was very disappointed that "we're getting rid of sliders" just meant getting rid of them visually, not the actual slider mechanics.

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The original is my fav simply for the vibes. The music is great, the graphics are charming and the gameplay is simple and fun. Great expansion pack content too. I still have all the original CD copies from when I was a kid.

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Pretty sure I still have 10GB of custom content for Sims 2 on my backup drive. I used to play it so much it took 15 minutes to load due to the sheer amount of mods lol.

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Sims 2. 4 It’s a bit too complex and realistic for me. I like the very simple models and ideas behind the older games.

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I've only played Sims 3 and 4. 4 has way better mods, while 3 has better gameplay.

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Did you know Sims 4 has certain low-tier items be less performant to ensure players buy more DLCs? Alsp I think early paychecks are smaller too, but that maybe art imitating life.

That said, theoretically it was harder to survive in 2.

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I was a massive SIMS2 player. When Sims3 came out and my dude walked away from the wall with the phone and sat on the couch I flipped my shit. Finally can increase social workout comfort going to hell. Haha

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Woodworking: I have mentioned this a couple times in my lectures on this platform. Festool has a tool called the Domino. It's the shape of a biscuit joiner but it's got a router bit that it wags like a dog's tail. It cuts a deep, narrow, short mortise that pre-made loose biscuits fit into.

This tool is protected under patent so only Festool makes them. They sell two models, a small and a large. The small cost a thousand petrodollars.

It's very easy to use, it makes strong joints quickly, it's impossible to afford.

You'll find there's a crowd of purists who will spend that much on a chisel and won't hear anything about it because it's not "traditional joinery." Floating tenons are thousands of years old, but okay. You've got beginners or hobbyists who can put together the basic tools and are upset when Youtubers use Dominos in projects. Most domino joints can be replaced with dowel joints, but okay. And you get the actual cabinet makers who go "I manufacture cabinets, this lets me do it faster, and time is money." Which...fair enough.

If you don't own a plunge router, you don't care.

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lemmy.zip

Furry Fandom:

How we represent ourselves as a fandom.

Some groups want the fandom to be more clean and family friendly. Some want it to remain weird and not always as family friendly as it currently is.

Some are more okay with using things like cheap plastic animal masks as bases for fursuit heads. Some people don't want that type of stuff and would rather see bases be either hand made or use something like a sports helmet or mask to build the base around.

Some are okay with us becoming more mainstream and companies like Netflix taking a little more interest in us. Others want corporations to stay away from us.

As for me, you can guess my stance just by the fact of me being here on Lemmy. I'd rather see a base use something not quite as corporate as a cheap plastic junk mask as a base. I would also rather keep our fandom a little less sanitized and more weird to keep the corpos from coming in and turning our fandom into a heavily censored industry.

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Yea, fuck the corpos. The fandom is perfectly good the way it is. I'd prefer more interest (and suiting) for therians tbh. The realistic side of fursuits that is. SUITS THAT DON'T LOOK UNCANNY.

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I was going to say, weird and family friendly please. Acceptable for families but not advertisers sounds wonderful. It's why we keep our local perverts around.

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lemmy.world

Someone I went to school with came out as a furry and got heavily involved in the fandom, to the point of helping to organize one of the biggest furry conventions in Europe, but he insisted it wasn't a sexual or fetish thing.

About five years later, he's founded a company that makes high quality dragon, werewolf and other bestial dildos.

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Lol. Doesn't surprise me going from "it's not sexual" to making those products. I've gone down a similar rabbit hole, but instead I just consume pretty vanilla yiff art. Major departure from who I was even a few years back.

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You need to chlorinate those who want it to be "family friendly"

Its sex and fetishes, and that's perfectly ok. kids do not need to be involved.

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piefed.social

I'm into metal crafting and you have no idea how competitive it can get, currently the divide is between whether Bessemer or Cathode steel are superior for bintwork, it's a form of ring chained gavel produced by different metallurgical processes and it is WILD how heated discussions get, it's ridiculous considering that most practitioners are in their early teens and create the WORST drama, while us who have been at it since the 1960's have to accept the sudden influx of kids into the mold because of the success of films such as "Steel Piston" and "Hot Rod", and frankly I'm done with it and have decided to get into Wicca.

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lemmy.world

Surely there's an objective answer from a scientific perspective. And if there isn't, then the answer is "it depends" - e.g it depends on how you're shaping it.

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I think you are god damned fucking right and I have decided to go back and pick up my old metal working hobby, those wicca witches be wicked bitches.

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lemmy.today

There's two in my hobbies.

First is in DnD. I'm going to ignore the obvious version wars but a lot of people debate who is and isn't fan of DnD. A lot of people just watch Critical Role or Dimension 20. Some in the community say that doesn't count and you're not a fan unless you actually play.

My take is everyone is welcome, and if all you do is watch then I'll just talk about storytelling with you and discuss mechanics with someone else.

The other big one is Chinese fountain pens that clearly mimic more well known brands. Are they good pens? Should they be shunned? Does it matter since most of the brands haven't made the specific model in ages? So much back and forth.

My take here is some people will never have the money for a Pelikan M1000 and those who do are going to go for which writes better. There's only so many ways a tube can be made unique.

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feddit.nu

Some in the community say that doesn’t count and you’re not a fan unless you actually play.

yeah because if there's anything the nerd community needs more of it's bullying

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I mean, I never said the argument was a good one. Just it's one I hear all the time.

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lemmy.world

There's only so many ways a tube can be made unique.

Sure. But it's not just about the tube. It's mostly about the ball.

At last - China learns how to make a ballpoint pen

That's from 2017. Until then, China had to rely on importing the little steel balls from Switzerland despite making 80% of the world's pens.

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Oh right. Well, it's still quite a cool fact. I'm not really into pens.

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I think the lack of personal time to pursue fulfilling hobbies and the general difficulty of finding a group of 4-8 players who have the sane consistent schedule is the primary bar of entry. The base rules of 5e are free, and anyone can download a dice rolling app for free. And barring that, pirating DnD books is stupid easy.

There's nothing wrong with enjoying a game you can't always play. If that was the bar of entry, then everyone's uncle who is super hyped about the Superbowl isn't a football fan.

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piefed.social

The other big one is Chinese fountain pens that clearly mimic more well known brands.

Patent on the Pilot Vanishing Point as far as I can tell has expired and that Majohn (Moonman) and Jinhao have made cheaper versions.

VPs are still bloody expensive for me and I don't want to gamble and see if I like it for that much money (and try to sell i t off if I don't like it).

Turns out I like retractable fountain pens but the jinhaos and majohn one I suppose isn't as well made and dry out quickly. From a bunch of reviews I've consumed they could be as good at not drying out but for the cheap price it's a QC issue.

So now what? Throw away perfectly fine cheap pens just to get the real one?

But on the flip side, I have tried a Lamy 2000 and I love it and I know there are blatant copies and homages from the Chinese brands and I won't get them.

Hobbies are just weird.

But at the end of the day, I think the cheap brands should he celebrated even copies because it's a good entryway to the hobby. If a pen hasn't been produced for decades, then someone else made new copies or homages, then I don't blame anyone wanting those instead of having to hunt for vintage pens and hoping to restore it (by themselves or sending it to someone).

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I think I mostly agree with you. If I ever see a Pilot myu clone I'm snagging it. Og or clone. They're so rare that an original will never be in my budget. A clone would just let more people enjoy the pen.

Not that I expect it to be cloned pretty much ever.

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lemmy.world

Community - The slogan was 'Six seasons and a movie.'

We are still waiting for our goddamned movie!

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lemmy.ca

Lots of debates about the internal arrangement of the original series Enterprise…

  • Bridge: forward facing or offset?
  • Engineering: primary or secondary hull?
  • Shuttlebay: short or extending under the nacelle pylons?
  • How big is this ship, anyway??
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lemmy.today

How big is this ship, anyway??

This was a particularly goofy handwave in the Lost in Space show as well. :D

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I watched a video on this recently which was able to demonstrate that Engineering was shown in different locations in TOS. So the answer is, "Don't worry about it."

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The Magic:the Gathering community is constantly bickering about what cards to be banned/unbanned. A lot of modern (modern as in the format, not present day) players agree a card from Titan needs to go but they disagree over which. Personally I think Amulet of Vigor needs to go. If you do that then energy probably needs a ban and I think goblin bombardment would make them weaker against removal and board wipes, though Phlage, Titan of Fire's Fury is also a good option because it's egregious with Arena of Glory

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was fun to read for someone that had some, but pretty low amount of contact with magic. gibberish after gibberish 😋

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lemmy.world

In a flight sim board, I once witnessed a heated debate over the HE111. The argument was over whether the first HE111s to drop torpedoes were field modified or had torpedo hardware mounted at the factory.

This thing went on for pages, and there was plenty of primary source documentation posted. And it was heated, personal, and vicious.

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This is the kind of shit that eventually leads to leaked classified documents on Warthunder forums.

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In the world of Game Collecting, the guy with potentially the largest single collection on the planet is getting rid of his collection.

The ideal plan was for it to all go to a singular museum, which was in the works and then unfortunately fell through. Problem is the next two backups also fell through. So plan D involves the collection being split up and some of it going to the Embrace Group, and some into private collections, which was seemingly both never the plan. People who donated items, thinking that they would eventually be publicly displayed, are rightfully upset. And then the rest of his fans, such as myself, are somewhat bewildered that this is how it will end after decades of amassing a collection, and then years of saying it'll all be going to a museum.

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lemmy.ml

Go: To what extent should you rely on AI reviews vs pro reviews?

AI is really, really good at Go, far better than humans, and it's pretty undeniable that it's a valid use case for the technology. It also makes it free and easy to pop a game into it and have the AI tell you which moves were mistakes.

But AI favors a "risky" playstyle, because it can read out crazy detailed variations to be able to tell when a dangerous position is actually fine. Humans trying to emulate that, without the superhuman reading capabilities, sometimes mess up and get worse results than if they used a safer strategy.

AI also can't explain why one move is better than another. Humans rely on heuristics, patterns, and proverbs to point us in the right direction of finding a move. A professional can show how to find a move through a heuristic, which is more generally applicable. There can also ofc be the factor of wanting to support the community by paying for a teacher or going to a club and finding someone to help review.

The question comes when the human professional says something that contradicts the AI, who do you listen to? I've been in a room before where an amateur was getting a game reviewed by a foreign professional (for free, but at a paid event) and after the pro criticized a move, the amateur insisted that the pro was wrong because the AI agreed with the move.

It's an interesting question, at least to me, whether or not that's inappropriate. On the one hand, you'll always have the AI's input so getting a different perspective is valuable, pros arguably earn a certain degree of their respect from their abilities, and there are the issues I mentioned above with relying too heavily on AI. On the other hand, because AI is so indisputably good, many people see it as a sort of objective standard for evaluating moves, whereas individual players may have different styles of play. If you can see reasons to play a move and the AI backs it up, then if the pro doesn't like it it could just be a stylistic preference. And of course the type of people who tend to be attracted to a competitive strategy game like this (especially Americans) don't necessarily have a lot of respect for credentials on paper or social heirarchies, as opposed to whether you can back up your analysis by objective standards.

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It's similar for Chess AI (and by that I mean Chess Engines that have been developed for decades, not LLMs) except that the engines will play extremely principled and cautious Chess, right up until it gets out of the book/theory territory and it calculates 20-30 moves into the future and determines that an incredibly unintuitive and bizarre move is the "best" position, but even the top grandmasters would likely never find that specific move that the engine determined was the best move you could make.

In some cases, you can tell when someone is cheating by seeing them make top engine moves that don't do anything or really advance the board state in a meaningful way the turn you make them because it forces the opponent to make one or more less optimal moves that the player could capitalize on, but humans are terrible and seeing these patterns because they are super analytical and require precise calculation. Also, asking them to explain why they made those moves is another way to catch them in the act - and a subject of a great deal of controversy in modern chess tournaments when some players give less than convincing answers when pressed on why they made certain moves in the game.

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sh.itjust.works

Improv: should you lead with character relationships, game or platform? There are many vehement proponents of each, each claiming that their process leads to better improv.

Character relationships are self explanatory, "game" is kinda like the core conceit of the sketch - i.e. in "who's on first" the "game" is "names that sound like pronouns", another common one is a pile on of identical characters (i.e. the SNL Jim Carrey family reunion where all his family have his mannerisms.

And "platform" is where you build the world and the scenario (i.e. we're Goombas that live in fear of mario; we're merpeople with a foot fetish... or more seriously - the family that runs this farm, the employees that work at this hotel...)

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sh.itjust.works

I mean it always starts with the game, right? That’s what we do. Then get platform or characters as gets. I didn’t realize it was possible not to start with game, as it lays the framework to create the scene.

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sh.itjust.works

There are a lot of other ways in - hence the disagreement.

In my city in the Southern USA, "game" is rarely if ever taught (except in the context of short form) and formats like the Harold are almost non-existant.

I have friends in the scene who tell me they're happier without any game in their work at all.

There is a large chunk of narrative or similarly structured (montages, Spokanes, la rondes...) work

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sh.itjust.works

Yeah almost all we do is short form (I know, I know) so we do game after game. Sometimes we just start with one word and raw dog it, but that’s rare in a show.

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personally I think there's actually such a big difference in "game" between short and long form they should be called different things.

Once I got the hang of game when i was on a house Harold team, things really took off for my long form ability.

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feddit.nu

in VX circles there's been a debate for at least 20 years whether it's better to use copper or aluminium foil to isolate duractance attenuators. obviously aluminium is more of a nuisance because you have to add ridges to the foil, but it's a lot cheaper. where it gets annoying is when the copper purists start talking about "ripple current" and "second laplacian instabilities" and "metallic saponification". like bitch, you are not running anywhere close to that kind of linearity on your shitty little taped-together Gravitias-5. or 4.9, i guess. pfft. just get a hobby knife and crease that aluminium.

anyway i recently started a VX community at ![email protected], swing by.

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oh boy what isn't it

jokes aside it stands for Volt-Xoccula, one of the major manufacturers of encabulators and related peripherals up until the mid 60's when they were integrated into Dynac (then Dymec). their brand recognition meant that the logo was on basically every device sold up until the 90's. it's become sort of a pet name for the entire field for hobbyists, but of course the original VX-branded machines are still highly sought after.

Basically the purpose is stabilise phase variations in local crepuscular radiation patterns by using an electromechanical-chemical process known as encabulation, ramping up a plasmatic field by exciting a transfer medium such as argon into a toroidal state. the closer you can get to the tangent of the pattern, (which means the phase variance approaches zero) the higher the inverse rate of change, or "delta". Since many of the big manufacturers have gone out of business, it's became more of a niche field mostly kept alive by hobbyists strapping together whatever equipment they can scavenge. Shed science, basically.

If you want to be mean you can liken the community to audiophiles; like obviously the cleaner your ramp-up the higher you can get your delta before the pattern dissipates, but there are people who go nuts about these sorts of things, building weird-ass contraptions that they swear "filters the gaseous flux to upper-bound the side-fumbling problem" or whatever but don't really do anything. It's gone so far as to become a bit of an in-joke in the community, throwing in random nonsense with the jargon to see who catches on. it's a force of habit really, we can't help it.

but anyway, i've mostly been uploading older but relevant stuff from The Bad Site and photos i've taken. i'm not much of a VXer (i live in an apartment) but i still want a place to discuss it because i find fascinating to work with.

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Man visiting that community definitely raised more questions than answers

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wikipedia's editors are notorious sticklers for details, all credit to them. they never allow primary sources, and when your community is so small, decentralised, and old as VX, primary sources is all you get. so any attempt to correct that page is just reverted immediately based on the ground rules.

it's like if one guy made a working free energy device that powered his house but he couldn't even get anyone to come and look at it because "free energy devices don't exist".

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The wiki page is pretty notoriously full of inaccuracies, especially for small-scale personal VX setups - not really worth reading imo.

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kbin.melroy.org

What I find both interesting and amusing is that I couldn't even vaguely guess what that was all about, which means it's either a very specific niche or a masterpiece of creative writing.

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i pinned a video in the comm that should serve as an introduction. it's from rockwell, so it's specific to their products, but the principles are in there.

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piefed.world

I was not aware. really entertained me 😆.

but why did you have to bash on people trying to obfuscate their ripple current. do you know how much of an issue it is especially with cheaper builds? so yes, copper any day

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lemmy.world

I'm impressed with how far you took this. I saw the YT video linked further down several months ago and I was well into it before I realized it was a joke.

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Doctor Who has a bunch of them!

One of the big recent ones was the Timeless Child plotline. For people unfamiliar with the show, the basic premise is that the main character, the Doctor, is an alien who's species can regenerate themselves when they're about to die which saves them but they become a physically different person. This was invented back in the 60s so they could change out the lead actor, William Hartnell, when he got too old to continue in the role and it's become a core part of the show. We're now on about the 15-16th Doctor, although that number is a bit contentious too for reasons I won't go into here because that's a whole other thing.

A few years back there was a plotline where it was revealed that the Doctor isn't just a regular alien, they're something called the Timeless Child that just appeared in our universe from somewhere unknown, and was the one that gave their whole species the ability to regenerate themselves. This was widely hated, as it not only changed the Doctor from a sort of wandering hobo into a Super Special Chosen One, but it also directly showed that William Hartnell wasn't the first Doctor, there had been probably dozens of other ones before him that had just never been mentioned until now.

The internal debates that I've seen usually aren't people debating whether this was a good idea or not, they're mostly about the best way to retcon it away and never speak of it again lol.

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lemmy.world

Yeah. I don't know why it's even an argument. Its totally in his character's nature to shoot first, and makes most sense in the story context.

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Iirc I think the argument comes from Lucas outright saying Greedo was supposed to shoot first but due to technical limitations yadda yadda and rereleasing a cut where he "fixed" it so Greedo in fact does shoot first.

But I'll keep it a buck Lucas is wrong and dumb and idgaf if he wrote it. Han shot first, makes for a better story.

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Exactly how planes fly. I studied a bit of fluid dynamics in grad school and my professor was adamant that any explanation is incomplete without discussion of boundary layers.

In short the explanation was a couple things. The first is how ping pong balls generate lift with translation and rotation (or vorticity). Its basically the shape of the wing that helps with vorticity (this is what generates the pressure difference above and below the wing). The second is that you need laminar flow over the wing for vorticity to take place, and this is achieved when a thin layer of turbulent air surrounds it, the boundary layer. It moves the stagnation points towards the back (encouraging laminar flow) and reducing drag.

The same process is the reason golf balls have dimples on them, to help form a turbulent boundary layer, moving the stagnation pounts, reducing drag and allowing the ball to go further.

"Tripping the boundary layer" can be achieved by increasing speed on the runway, a strong head wind, rough spots on the wing, or how you might see windsurfers pump their sail, or someone pumping on a hydrofoil board in the water.

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I still play a little old school Doom and earlier this year the creator of one of the main engines people use (GZDoom) got some flak for using some AI in his coding, causing a lot of people to switch over to a fork (UZDoom).

I don't miss many things about the old site but the niche communities are one of them. If anyone wants to dive into years of minutiae covering everything from big drama to slap fights you should check out
https://old.reddit.com/r/HobbyDrama/

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lemmy.world

Have a couple different ones:

Star Wars:: How many Clones were actually in the Clone Army (and, by extension, how large are the setting's armies in general)?

The original wording used in 2003's Attack of the Clones is (perhaps deliberately) ambiguous, so from that point on fans have forever debated this. On the one hand, there's arguments that the visible cloning facilities and formations on-screen suggest literal interpretations of "unit" as "soldier", and armies of a few million at most. On the other hand, fans have also pointed out that a galaxy-spanning conflict being fought by fewer troops than fought in World War 2 is ridiculous, and the casualty figures given would mean the entire clone army had been wiped out many times over - unless "units" can be taken to mean a much larger formation of troops.

Expanded Universe materials (both pre- and post-Disney) have given figures supporting both sides.

Eve Online: Was the game better or worse in the era of "Rorquals online"?

Context is, at that point in the game's history, much of the game's economy was driven by very large mining capital ships - Rorquals - systematically stripping in-universe resources at high speed.

Proponents suggest that the presence of vulnerable ships out in space doing things promoted conflict, and that this induced conflicting player groups to raid each others' territory, creating game content. Detractors argue that Rorquals inevitably existed under the protective umbrella of existing large player groups, meaning only those groups could effectively harvest resources, creating a positive feedback loop where strong alliances got stronger and everyone else got wiped out.

(Personally, my answer is 'both' - but most of it has to do with other game changes besides Rorquals.)

Railfanning: Is coal-fired steam locomotives going away a good or bad thing?

Coal-fired steam is undoubtedly cool. you get the authentic sensations and smoke clouds that oil-firing really doesn't provide. Many who favor it bemoan old coal-fired locomotives being converted to run on oil, sometimes also arguing the locomotives should be preserved as historically used.

On the hand, other fans point out that coal firing creates a very real fire hazard; there have been multiple brush- and forest-fires started or thought to be started by coal-fired locomotives. There's also issues with coal becoming harder to get as use in power generation dwindles, and these fans would prefer to convert to oil rather than not run at all.

Most people just see a steam locomotive and go "Cool!"

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I like to think that there are exactly as many clones as that one copy-paste that lists every one of them. That way it truly lists all of them.

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lemmy.world

EvE Online response as a player who was there for that era is still playing. I think the game is in a much healthier place now that most of the course correction patches have passed. Surgical Strike and Scarcity changes were needed to make the power blocs burn their stockpiles, but it happened slowly and almost killed the game (no one liked space austarity). Now with diminishing returns on capital reps, capped jump fatigue timers and filaments to allow for random travel the umbrellas can be pierced much easier and players have to adapt.

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Also someone who played through that: I agree.

Nostalgia Rorquals Online have a very rose-tinted view of the time. Sure, there were more ships in space... but a lot of those "ships in space" came in the form of an entire cap fleet landing on your cruiser roam the second you tackled a Rorqual. Fatigue timers and diminishing returns were absolutely needed.

I think the current crop of issues wouldn't be fixed by just going back; they can be traced to other factors, like Citadels encouraging players crowding together.

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Maestroreply
fedia.io

Tangential question: Is EvE viable or fun to play casually without subscription?

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lemmy.world

Early game, absolutely. The most important thing is to find people to play and talk with. The first few months are about getting your sea legs and trying all the things you may want to do. Skills are time gated not activity gated, and learning the rules of engagment are important (in-game, social and meat-space).

Personal note, the most useful thing I teach my new corp mates is "How not to be seen" and how to navigate your person in a way people cant (or have to put a lot of effort) into stopping you.

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Thanks! The cost of Omega always put me off trying it. I'll probably give it a go then!

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I was of the camp that said that even millions was far too small. This is a war spread out over thousands, if not tens of thousands of star systems. Hell, Venators have crews of ~10,000, and we see multiples go down in a single battle. I wouldn't be surprised if a million clones died on some bad days alone.

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In the RTS game beyond all reason there is a long ongoing debate thread where people would argue for removing the ability to co-op(one of bars unique mechanics)

In BAR you generally play team games up to 8v8 and can instantly send resources to other players. You can also transfer units. This is pretty cool it allows you to work together to get higher tech things faster. 2 people sharing 1 lab is more efficient than 2 people making a lab each. So obviously the higher ranked games devolved into the most fucking degenerate co-op tactics. Cheese or be cheesed. Lanes decided by which good player gets more boosts. You'd end up in games where your role is to be a battery and make energy for the first few mins. You would end up losing your lane at 3mins because the other team boosted your lane then once you die they go boost the other side. You'd have the top players in the team forcing the bottom players to be a boost for them because them getting ahead is far more valuable. It was fun in the beginning but got very bad.

So top players were arguing that there needed to be a fix and tried to discuss what it should be and more casual players would constantly argue that it wasnt a problem, it was a skill issue, it was fun etc, someone just needs to counter it.

The solution people wanted was a resource tax but it required engine work. But its been done now, we got the engine work and its a toggle on setting so those who want it can and those who dont can leave it off. The "coop is a problem" thread is still going but i dont know what the new arguments are about.

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Are larp arrows supposed to have a flat foam tip, or a rounded foam tip?

Either side will claim the other had blinded a dozen of their friends, impaled their cattle and poisoned the well!

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Hmm, if both side claim the other blinded their friend, than perhaps both are capable of blinding friends. The obvious solution is to have no friends.

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Thats not a debate in LoTR Fandom. Debate would imply one side has a leg to stand on. No wings.

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Here's another one: Is there a "blind community?" This may sound odd since the very fact the question exists implies there is, since blind people have to get together and discuss it. So in some ways yes of course there is, but I'm inclined to say no, at least not in the sense that a lot of people define "community".

Blindness does not respect class, creed, or culture, so you have blind people from all over the map ideologically speaking who all approach their blindness in different ways. That's not getting into the difference between low- vs no-vision, or born blind vs blinded later in life, or blind people who are independent vs those that lack access to proper training. I've run into blind people who don't like hanging out with other blind people IRL because the spectrum ranges from "can't even pick yourself up when you trip without help" to "flies around the country alone with no problem."

I think the question exists because we look at deaf people who unambiguously have cultures and languages unique to them when we don't really have that.

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sh.itjust.works

I happen to be a fan of The Amazing Digital Circus, and for a brief time I did participate in the fandom, and here’s just one of many, many examples of what this fandom does to itself.

Someone came up with the idea that one of the characters is trans…based on absolutely zero facts from the show itself, anything said or implied by the creative team…nothing more than their own oddball imagination. Which immediately split the fandom into two very rabid camps on this non-issue. And you’d think the show’s creator explicitly stating that no, this character is not in fact trans, would settle it? Lol nope.

Shouldn’t surprise me that a show with the subtext of mental illness would attract mentally ill people, but man this fandom will pick a fight with anyone.

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leminal.space

Thanks, just watched the pilot and it looks really good. Which character did people think was trans and why?

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gigastasioreply
sh.itjust.works

Jax. And there is no why.

See, a sizable percentage of this fandom are maladjusted woker-than-thou 12 year olds who develop parasocial relationships with fictional characters, and adults with similar personality profiles. That’s where it came from. Lurk in some of the fandom spaces and you’ll see behaviors similar to this. Some of these people even picked a fight with the show’s creator over who the main characters are. She’s had to come forward more than once to collectively tell people to settle the fuck down.

That being said, I’m happy you watched the pilot. Enjoy the next seven episodes - there’s some great character and plot/lore development and even though there’s only one episode left, there’s still a lot left to reveal. The most exciting part of this is that Glitch, an independent animation studio, managed to secure a worldwide theatrical release for the final episode (which will actually be episodes 8 and 9 combined for a full-length feature film run) in early June. This is unheard of for an independent studio. They’ve been doing their best to keep the fandom up to date on how they’re securing venues, and enlightening us all on the massive shitstorm of red tape you have to navigate to accomplish this.

And of course the fandom had to scream at everyone about that too lol. 🙄

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leminal.space

Jaaaax??? He's like the token normie straight guy LMAO

Zooble is literally right there... idg these "headcanons" a lot. Why not invest in shows that already have representation or write your separate AU fanfics? Forcing representation seems like an egregious thing to maintain inside a fandom space when shows like Helluva Boss already have clean cut representation without any mysticism, so why not gravitate towards those fandoms instead?

Sometimes I wonder if fandoms like these engage in a sort of purposeful gatekeeping because they want a larger queer majority for the space than actually exists. I can see how it would be tempting to retcon a character like Jax, for all intents and purposes the sole young straight cismale character, and then it suddenly becomes a lot easier to achieve that. But it's not a very healthy thing to do by any means.

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You know what I think happened? A while back someone posted a fan drawing of Jax in a maid outfit, which got a lot of attention. Later in the show there’s a scene where the rest of the gang “vote” to put Jax in a maid outfit just to piss him off. And I really think those two oddly-coincidental events melted some people’s brains.

Also I’ve noticed with the less mature folks, they can’t separate their fanfics/ships/whatever from the actual story being told. And this is what we get.

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And that’s what makes it even more absurd. You’ve already got a nonbinary character who represents body dysmorphia, but nope, let’s start this fight over a completely different character.

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Yeah, Jax is insane, I would have also guessed Zooble with same reason as you said.

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Yeah... honestly, I feel awful for Gooseworx. They were trying to tell a serious story, and they succeeded. It is a serious story, and it is a good one. Unfortunately, they have to wade through a sea of the survivors of 21st century cultural and societal damage.

Markiplier broke the wall, and Glitch is shoving its foot through the crack. In a few years, indie makers will be in the movies. Let Hollywood tremble, mwahaha!

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Afaik, Zooble's the only canonically trans character. I mean, the nightmare segment of ep8 was VERY obviously about their severe dysphoria, as well as their couch therapy gag with Caine. Hell, their whole body design was Caine's pretty lame attempt at alleviating their dysphoria by giving them dysmorphia instead.

Tbh, I was very pleasantly surprised by how seriously they took depicting actual computer science. There is a world of difference between Kinger with the bucket on his head missing a keystroke and this shit.

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TADC is probably the only good thing to have come out of Glitch Productions since SMG4 got enshittified to become more "advertiser friendly." But part of the reason I haven't gotten into it is the fandom.

I don't like how half the fandom sexualizes Pomni; especially against the creators' wishes.

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lemmy.world

Completely forgot an even better example. Is FT8 ruining ham radio? Think of FT8 like a glorified ping using modem noises. You pipe those modem noises over a radio and someone pings you back with a signal report, and that's it. There are many people who want to have more substantive conversations and think FT8 is automating the fun out of the hobby. Others argue that the people using FT8 aren't the type to want to ragchew anyway, so they can hang out in their little corner and leave the rest of the bands clear for those who do want to chat.

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lemmy.radio

That being said, one can probably find similar arguments when phone came into mainstream, and then again when the FCC eliminated the Morse requirements. The truth is it’s all ham radio, and any arguments to the contrary are rejected outright.

To even get on any of the digital modes, not only must one have the licenses, radio, and antenna, they must also know how to pair the computer up to it to get it to function while also understanding atmospherics.

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lemmy.world

That being said, one can probably find similar arguments when phone came into mainstream

Speaking as someone who only got licensed in 2019 with almost zero exposure to the hobby prior, I get where this attitude comes from. Back in the day a new mode meant new (expensive) equipment which also took up space (the cost in terms of square-footage for a shack and antennas is overlooked IMO). Whereas now most things can be accomplished with a computer and sound card.

Also, ham radio for the most part is only fun when other people are doing it too. I love Hellschreiber but nobody else does, so I rarely get any contacts using Hell. I can see CW guys bemoaning the folks who moved from CW to FT8 because they only used CW because it's tolerant of low power or sub-optimal antennas, and FT8 was built with that scenario in mind.

On the other side ham radio is supposed to be about experimentation and trying new stuff. That's one of thee reasons given by the FCC for allocating spectrum for ham use. So of course new shiny modes are going to come up all the time, if they don't then the hobby is failing.

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A fantastic point I hadn’t considered, new gear taking up more space. I would also try Hell but for the same issue you mentioned. I did SSTV a bit which is kind of neat.

I’ve tried JT65 a bunch on HF with no luck.

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when the FCC eliminated the Morse requirements.

The code requirement is what stopped me from getting a license in the mid 90s as a kid. Well that and nobody could tell me what lunch meat had to do with wireless communication. I learned morese all the same after getting my tech license just to prove to myself I now had the discipline that I lacked as a kid.

Related: There was an uproar when the FCC said they'd start charging $30 for licenses whereas before they were free. Most hams I hang out with IRL were fine with it, but I was not. If you're on the outside wondering whether to get into the hobby, every roadblock is a potential show-stopper. If someone hands you a can of weird soda you've never tried, you'll probably try it because the worst you'll get is a bad taste. If you have to pay for that same can of mystery soda, even if it's just a dollar, you're more likely to pass.

The big picture is more complex though. The $30 dollar fee isn't specific to ham licenses, it's part of a process of standardization at the FCC that also affects other services. It's also a pittance compared to what some other countries expect. Aussies had it really bad in the past, though googling it literally just now seems to indicate it's gotten a lot better. They used to have to pay annual fees on top.

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I don't like talking (edit: aloud, to be clear) that much, in person or otherwise, so I like data modes.

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The state of the Halo franchise.

I am not really part of it, but I follow it to some degree.
And it's sad how M$ mismanaged it.

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I'm a planetary scientist so technically this is a field, you can also be into meteorites as a hobby.

Chondrule formation. These are spherical balls of formerly molten rock that solidified and clumped together to form chondrites, some of the oldest rocks in the Solar System that predate planet formation. Essentially these are nebular dust grains that formed when the Solar System was still an accretionary disk.

Except, do chondrules predate planet formation? What causes them to melt while they're floating around? How do they overcome the kinetic barriers to agglomeration? Are the terrestrial planets, whose bulk composition is thought to be chondritic, actually composed of chondrites?

If you want to see one of the most simultaneously esoteric and bitter scientific debates, attend a chondrule formation session at a meteorite or planetary science conference. MetSoc is a great one in August, and officially I go to present my work but actually I just love the fireworks. As an achondrite person, I don't touch this topic with a ten foot pole, but I love to watch when someone introduces a new wacky idea (space lightning? Shine from a molten Io? Extrasolar?) and you see 15 eminent greybeards rush the mic to yell their objections.

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Some would argue it misses the topic, but I'll offer the Unix text editor wars. Vi vs. Emacs is pretty much the epitome of a pointless religious war in people's favourite activity, though for some that's obviously their job.

Why do I mention it? Because most would just look at it and say: obviously none of the above, what are you even talking about? But those in the know have been heatedly debating the topic since at least the 80s.. (I'm team vi for what it's worth)

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Miniature painting: True metallic Vs non metallic metal.

Should you paint the metal parts of your minis in metallic paint (containing small amounts of pica and/or aluminium to give it a reflective shimmer), or is it better to use non metallic paints and paint the shimmer and reflections to give the illusion of being metallic?

Personally I prefer TMM, because it's basically the same techniques but if you fuck it up a bit it doesn't end up looking terrible like NMM, and while NMM looks great in photos I find TMM looks better in real life, which is where I enjoy my minis. NMM definitely requires more skill, but I don't think the results are worth it unless you're entering competitions.

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In the Lord of the Rings fandom there's a persistent debate whether balrogs, or Durin's Bane specifically, have wings. The text in Fellowship is ambiguous whether what it is describing are literal wings or something else wing-like.

Never knew about this debate, but IMO the text is not ambiguous:

suddenly drew itself up to a great height, and its wings were spread from wall to wall

That's very literal. Looking into the subject it seems that people think those are metaphorical wings, but I don't see anything near that phrase that justifies thinking it's metaphorical.

But also, at the end of the day, it's a moot debate. Balrogs are Maiar, them having wings or not is as important as the color of the shoes of some other character, they're spiritual beings that adopt some physical form, which they can change at will.

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sopuli.xyz

Recently got an allotment. No dig or not seems to be a fairly big one right now. It sounds nice but I don't have the same Amazon addiction as some people so I don't have 100m² of cardboard that I can lay across the plot.

Buying a shitload of cardboard and mulch isn't an expense I am interested in right now. Over time I do want to move towards more perennial and larger plants so there won't be much digging required anyway other than when replacing something. Or tubers/bulbs that you have to dig to harvest and plant anyway.

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Keilikreply
lemmy.world

I got all my cardboard for free just asking stores if I can take their boxes, small businesses especially are happy to get rid of boxes especially if they don’t have to cut them up

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Korhakareply
sopuli.xyz

Suppose it depends on how it comes, but wouldn't it be pretty bulky to carry if you wanted to cover a large area?

Would dead leaves be any good? Could just take loads of those from the floor around trees in parks and fill the bags on my bike. About 70L between them. Still think it would take a while to cover an allotment though.

Also got a compost bin but while nearly full it's going to be a while to rot down.

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Keilikreply
lemmy.world

Dead leaves are great actually, even better if you mow them into confetti since they will break down a lot faster. You can solarize a bed with a tarp pretty easily too for weed control. Chip drop is a great way to get a bunch of organic material to put into soil or mulch with too. The cardboard works well but there’s plenty of other options

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Don't have a lawnmower, but usually just below the surface layer of leaves they are already like confetti.

Previous owner used tarps and the weeds grew through. Plastic strands of tarps are all over my plot because of it and where the edges were fraying a lot.

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lemmy.today

On top of the free cardboard as the other poster suggested (coffee shops are my preferred because I can get grounds for compost too) My friend got free mulch through Chip Drop. Arborists need to get rid of mulch and just want it gone.

My friend is in the US but they have an activity checker and I just through in Manchester and they say there's mulch there so I'd imagine it's semi global.

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I think chip drop can be massive volumes though. I don't have enough space for a huge drop. My allotment is off the path and the site would require someone being there to take the delivery to unlock the gate. Both make chipdrop impractical from what I can tell where they want a place that is available to dump any amount at any time.

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farmgineerreply
nord.pub

I would love to have no-till going, but it's also not reasonable for me. Actual mulch is uncommon in Japan and cardboard just blows away in my area (even with 15-20cm long U-shaped staples in multiple places per piece and on joints; it be windy here). Do what you can now and don't worry about not being the best or perfect.

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I normally see the cardboard covered in some kind of mulch to hold it down. Hopefully once my compost bin has started to be productive I will be able to use that at least which should help a bit.

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The Grateful Dead were not a jam band , jam bands wanted to be the Grateful Dead.

And also, the mk4 platform we're the last real VW's ever made and anybody that thinks differently is a civilian that needs to shut the fuck up

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I've gotten quite into doing pub karaoke for the past three years. It started as me going to monthly nights at my local, then following that particular KJ after they cancelled future gigs with her, to befriending and following a few other hosts.

There's three particular debates:

  • Who produces the best karaoke backing tracks? There are a lot of websites/platforms that produce licensed karaoke tracks, such as Karaoke Version, Sing To The World, Sunfly, Karafun, Mr Entertainer, Zoom Karaoke and a few others. I think some can be more hit-or-miss than others. Karafun are generally good with lyric readability but their app/service is kinda shit if you don't have an internet connection.

  • Should the host get on the mic and sing at all? Some i know are the kind who like the sound of their own voice a bit too much and tend to hog the mic, but there's also one I know who rarely if ever sings himself.

  • As a host, should you play songs between singers. I can understand spacing out singers when it's quiet, but if it's busy and you have a few dozen singers waiting for their turn, you're just gonna piss people off if you play full songs between each act in my opinion.

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In the Deltarune fandom, there's a fairly heated debate on whether the character Ralsei (depicted as a feminine male in game) will end up coming out as transgender or not

Both sides feel it's the most natural route for the story, both sides have evidence in their favour and both sides feel the other would ruin the story

A recent merch ad depicted a female Ralsei and it caused a bit of revival in the discussion (despite ads not being canon)

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-Guitar picks/strings

-Warhammer editions (Or competitive vs narrative play)

-using linux and the many reasons why

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Supernatural. Whether or not Destiel was canon.

It's been 15 years I don't really wanna talk about it anymore lol

::: spoiler .


But it totally was ftr :::

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There's this guy on https://2004.lostcity.rs/ who is always buying and selling items for >15% the trade values, and the forums have hundreds of posts complaining that he should be banned from using the markets. Which is impressive, considering the entire community is like 200 people

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Who "What do you two think?" in W.D. Caster's "Dark, Darker, yet Darker" easter egg monologue is addressing.

Personally, I'm in the Sans and Alphys camp, but we'll have to see where the rest of Deltarune leads on that.

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SPN the show, yea people think they were suppose to be a "gay relationship" , but the new writers mde it that way, it was clear that KRIPKE never intended them to have a human-angel relationship of any kind. but people are obsessed parasocially over this.

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Does carbone fiber infused plastic make a difference for 3d prints. Many say its useless, but i do know it make them stiffer. Mot really stronger just behave stiffer. Enough to ne useful in some applications.

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