Yeah, I used 4Chan for a while as a kid. From what I've heard it's more tame now, but I saw some stuff no person should ever see. I think it helped shape me as a person though, largely in a good way. It helped me form opinions about death and killing that I think are good.
Personally, I think people should have to watch some combat footage before they vote. Your vote can send people to go kill other people. If you don't know what that looks like, maybe your opinion on the matter shouldn't be worth as much. Until you see someone dying (actually dying, not hollywood dying), I don't think you should be allowed to make decisions about killing people.
Extra benefit: identify the very small % of people who actually are extremely enthusiastic about it when watching that kind of shit and somehow as society try to deal better with those people...
Back before governments realized they could spread propaganda and disinformation everywhere through the internet, and companies could make boatloads of money manipulating people algorithmically through social media.
Honestly yeah, the internet was better before all that. And now we have AI generated news and websites showing up everywhere and it's being shoved down our throats, and we are on the precipitous of global "age verification" (cough more privacy violations)
But, other than that, the modern internet is fine. Everything's fine.
I’m not sure if you’re being funny and I’m not getting it. Macromedia were the original developers of various web products. Flash and Dreamweaver for example. They were acquired by Adobe and it was renamed to Adobe Flash.
They’re talking about the same Flash you are.
Flash itself was junk. People made some fantastic things with it, though.
I never saw tubgirl but the others were drowned out when idk if it was 4chan rando or someone I was arguing with or something but they posted a picture of what looked like kid about my age at the time cooked like a turkey with the white foot cover things on a big platter on a big dining table and the text you're next. That shit haunted me for like 20 years.
I made it through adolescence without seeing the two girls one cup video. It was a thing to try and trick your buddies into watching it. It's an odd point of pride for me I dodged that particular bullet.
I've seen a beheading by some russian nazis in like 2010. As a teenager (around that time) i used to look up rotten.com and facesofdeath a fair bit. A lot i forgot, but some pictures will stay with me until i die. Sounds worse than it is, they just pop up from time to time.
Recently i searched for random telegram chanells because i was bored and found some israeli and islamic chanells that had a lot of execution and some mild gore content. That dosn't do anything with me emotionalie, i am keenly aware of the fact that humans murder and kill their own and other species all the time.
Still haven't seen two girls and one cup. Not even sure what its about, i think it's some kink stuff involving bodily fluids? I don't see any benefit in watching it. The gore stuff at least is a lesson about reality that people from my part of the world aren't exposed to, at least for now. In a way it helps to stay grounded on how fucked up live is for many people and creatures on this planet, something that is far to easy to forget when living in the 'sanitized' west.
2girls1cup is pretty tame compared to a lot of other shit (if you'll pardon the pun).
It's just two hot girls and one shits into a cup and the other eats it - it being what I can only assume is some sort of chocolate desert because no way she just straight devouring dooky.
Anyways yeah I remember it being a thing in 2008 in college where we all tried to get unsuspecting folks to see it.
2 girls 1 cup is just nasty internet shock content. It involves
::: spoiler spoiler
2 women shitting into 1 cup.
:::
idk why I bother spoilering, but trigger warning for weird sexual kink I suppose.
The beheadings and other vile human extremes are just infinitely worse. 2g1c is tame in comparison.
Recently I watched an alleged Iranian officer take his life at home. Not out of my volition, but while hanging (hah) with friends. This is a few days after the first attack by Israel and USA. I won't describe it here too detailed but it's a lot less messy than I thought it would but it would still haunt me. And the cry of a woman out of frame
Lots of people talking about beheadings, but the video that I can never unwatch was of a woman in a blank walled room facing the camera and getting unceremoniously shot in the head with a revolver. I've no idea if it was real or not, but the lack of, for want of a better word, "spectacle" makes me think it was.
I don't want to look it up again to find out but if anyone knows for sure...
Ah yes I remember "three guys one hammer" which was a video of three Ukrainian serial killers stabbing a guy in the eye and repeatedly in the stomach with a screwdriver and then beating him to death with a hammer.
Apparently one of the killers got out of prison in 2019. I imagine he's probably dead by now, given that he was most likely conscripted.
Yeah, its the same as old man saying there's no good music.
There's not much corporately popular shoved in your face good music. But now is literally the golden age of all media, before we are all restricted from enjoying any of it without being a criminal or paying subscription fees just to log into my PC. I give it 5 or 8 years . they're already coming for emulation because people are sick of shitty new games.
You can still find the good of the internet. Use webrings, kagi small web search, use your bookmarks, neocities, Its still out there.
The fediverse is a big one too
The real issue is all your normie friends have no idea of this or are terrified of anything that isnt corponet, so they will not partake in ye olden web. But thats OK.
I was moderator on an online video platform at the time.
I arrived to work early, get my coffee and went to my desk for my morning empty-the-queue-list routine... spitted my coffee, maybe puked a little... and moved on with my tasks!
There was a brief moment in the internet during this time, not the wild west age of unmoderated forums and ascaii memes but the budding frontier town of rage comics and early social media. There was an exact point, just before the year Facebook became the defacto social network, where the internet could have taken a different path and lead to something great. You still see the chipped paint of that mural in places like Reddit before the premium and Lemmy before the shill accounts. The hangers on from the old world that catch the scraps the mega corps drop. Gaiaonline is still propped up by a dedicated community. Small forums grow like weeds in the cracked pavement.
If we could find those places, sure up their crumbling palisades against the endless effort to advertise, breathe life into them in our own quite ways. Create the internet we wanted instead of sulking in the one we were given.
I'm fairly sure I saw the same beheading video in 2003. I was convinced it was real. My one friend was convinced it was fake. Our other friend couldn't decide.
Now, with hindsight, I'm STILL convinced it was real, but I'm wondering if what I saw was an early version of what would later become ISIS.
ISIS didn't exist formally yet in 2003, but it's not like they just came from nowhere. I'm fairly confident that I saw an early version of it with that beheading video.
So a lot of their members were Saddam's party. Part of 'debaathification' involved putting everyone who had been in the party on a list, but the nature of a 1 party state, that includes everyone from professors and traffic engineers to professional throat-slitters and the people managing them. If you were on the list, you could not be employed at any state enterprise. This made anyone whose job didn't have a private sector equivalent, functionally unemployable.
The one I saw around the same time, perhaps a couple of years earlier, was from Chechnia. It has always been a favourite execution method of Islamists. ISIS didn't invent it.
I never went looking for extreme violence, but in my teens I sometimes visited the "extreme/bizarre" shock blogs of my country, so saw quite a few disgusting sexual videos that are burned into my mind forever, like cock-and-ball torture (up to self-amputation) and various bestiality types 😬
Welcome to the internet!
Have a look around...
Anything that brain of yours can think of can be found..
We've got mountains of content, some better, some worse
If none of it's of interest to you, you'd be the first
Bom bom bom bom!
The laugh Bo gave in that track made my skin crawl, I'll never forget it
everyday I'm thankful I never let curiosity get to the better of me as a kid on the internet
Yeah, I used 4Chan for a while as a kid. From what I've heard it's more tame now, but I saw some stuff no person should ever see. I think it helped shape me as a person though, largely in a good way. It helped me form opinions about death and killing that I think are good.
Personally, I think people should have to watch some combat footage before they vote. Your vote can send people to go kill other people. If you don't know what that looks like, maybe your opinion on the matter shouldn't be worth as much. Until you see someone dying (actually dying, not hollywood dying), I don't think you should be allowed to make decisions about killing people.
Can't understand reality without seeing the bad.
Extra benefit: identify the very small % of people who actually are extremely enthusiastic about it when watching that kind of shit and somehow as society try to deal better with those people...
I didn't need to, was walking around at my school when some other student was watching them out in the open on a computer in the hallway
Back before governments realized they could spread propaganda and disinformation everywhere through the internet, and companies could make boatloads of money manipulating people algorithmically through social media.
Honestly yeah, the internet was better before all that. And now we have AI generated news and websites showing up everywhere and it's being shoved down our throats, and we are on the precipitous of global "age verification" (cough more privacy violations)
But, other than that, the modern internet is fine. Everything's fine.
In hindsight, a decentralised and democratic internet is indeed better. We are trying to recreate that in Lemmy.
Oof, I'm sorry, that's rough. Flash games?
Flash games were awesome
Motherload was the best
I still replay it from time to time
“Yo mama, Osama!”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Browser_game#Flash_era_(1999%E2%80%932010)
I remember it! Macromedia Flash sucked ass.
No, Flash was a proprietary platform for animated content before the modern web standards. You're thinking of the MP3 player.
Edit: Clearly a poor attempt at setting up someone to reply with "no you're thinking of Winamp, ..."
I’m not sure if you’re being funny and I’m not getting it. Macromedia were the original developers of various web products. Flash and Dreamweaver for example. They were acquired by Adobe and it was renamed to Adobe Flash.
They’re talking about the same Flash you are.
Flash itself was junk. People made some fantastic things with it, though.
Was there an MP3 player named Flash? TIL
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLo4M1tlpv9ruM7k2Pr_0auqL8IveRE5gl
Goatse
Tubgirl
Lemon party
Yeah, those were simpler times.
Two girls one cup
It was chocolate ice cream
And none of them caused me as much distress as the beheading of that journalist. Even as a regular visitor of Rotten.com.
If you're talking about Nick Berg, he was a defense contractor iirc
It’s good to bear witness to these things.
I never saw tubgirl but the others were drowned out when idk if it was 4chan rando or someone I was arguing with or something but they posted a picture of what looked like kid about my age at the time cooked like a turkey with the white foot cover things on a big platter on a big dining table and the text you're next. That shit haunted me for like 20 years.
I had to explain to a younger person what Goatse was the other day. They don't even know what they missed out on.
Goatse is still alive and well in Mexico but this community bans NSFW.
Detroit hardcore, Kids in a sandbox
If I could go back, I’d pass on the beheading. Damn morbid curiosity.
I wouldn't. I didn't enjoy them, but they seemed important. A brief glimpse into extreme reality.
Yeah. Really brings home how fucked up war and religious fanaticism is.
It certainly broke your bubble when you saw it.
I was an adult when that was going around. I decided I wasn't that curious. I've never seen 'two girls one cup' either. I don't regret my choice.
Edit: I also didn't need to see the Charlie Kirk murder, either.
I made it through adolescence without seeing the two girls one cup video. It was a thing to try and trick your buddies into watching it. It's an odd point of pride for me I dodged that particular bullet.
Goatse was the real rickroll.
meatspin.com was a pretty good one
I've seen a beheading by some russian nazis in like 2010. As a teenager (around that time) i used to look up rotten.com and facesofdeath a fair bit. A lot i forgot, but some pictures will stay with me until i die. Sounds worse than it is, they just pop up from time to time.
Recently i searched for random telegram chanells because i was bored and found some israeli and islamic chanells that had a lot of execution and some mild gore content. That dosn't do anything with me emotionalie, i am keenly aware of the fact that humans murder and kill their own and other species all the time.
Still haven't seen two girls and one cup. Not even sure what its about, i think it's some kink stuff involving bodily fluids? I don't see any benefit in watching it. The gore stuff at least is a lesson about reality that people from my part of the world aren't exposed to, at least for now. In a way it helps to stay grounded on how fucked up live is for many people and creatures on this planet, something that is far to easy to forget when living in the 'sanitized' west.
2girls1cup is pretty tame compared to a lot of other shit (if you'll pardon the pun).
It's just two hot girls and one shits into a cup and the other eats it - it being what I can only assume is some sort of chocolate desert because no way she just straight devouring dooky.
Anyways yeah I remember it being a thing in 2008 in college where we all tried to get unsuspecting folks to see it.
2 girls 1 cup is just nasty internet shock content. It involves
::: spoiler spoiler 2 women shitting into 1 cup. :::
idk why I bother spoilering, but trigger warning for weird sexual kink I suppose.
The beheadings and other vile human extremes are just infinitely worse. 2g1c is tame in comparison.
Recently I watched an alleged Iranian officer take his life at home. Not out of my volition, but while hanging (hah) with friends. This is a few days after the first attack by Israel and USA. I won't describe it here too detailed but it's a lot less messy than I thought it would but it would still haunt me. And the cry of a woman out of frame
Okay that last one is a dramatic masterpiece. You gotta.
2g1c and beheadings sre missable, but kirk's a classic, and not particularly gruesome.
I really don't. I can't stand the bloke, but I don't need to see that.
Its not the death.
Its about who he was and exactly what he was saying when he died exactly the way he died. Like a clip that catches his last line.
If hed been blown up while buying a pack of cigarettes it wouldnt have been special.
I got all that without having to see the actual footage.
And an image is a pipe.
AFAIK the 2G1C was deemed fake, but I won’t check.
Me neither. Don't care.
I somehow managed to avoid the really heinous stuff like beheadings, but I do remember a lot of the classic shock websites.
Apparently the cock from MeatSpin belonged to a trans woman porn star. So that's fun, I hope she's doing well, whoever she is.
my middle school classmates were browsing rotten.com on the school computers in the breaks, so I've seen at least one drowned corpse when passing by 🤢
I saw Saddam hang. Louder than you'd think.
Analogue youth, digital teens, here.
Simpler times... when we'd watch Jimmy Savile on TV, and were told he was a beloved children's entertainer. O_O
Ayyye this is a big thread for LPotL references!
[Last Podcast On The Left] Episode 658: Jimmy Savile Part I - Clowns Get Away with Murder 🅴 https://podcastaddict.com/last-podcast-on-the-left/episode/220772811 via @PodcastAddict
RIP Flash
Lots of people talking about beheadings, but the video that I can never unwatch was of a woman in a blank walled room facing the camera and getting unceremoniously shot in the head with a revolver. I've no idea if it was real or not, but the lack of, for want of a better word, "spectacle" makes me think it was.
I don't want to look it up again to find out but if anyone knows for sure...
I saw a lot of unseeable things on the internet, thanks to decades of war and sites like Ogrish. But snuff clips I noped the hell out of.
:(
I dont know how i did it as a kid. Teenagers are psychopaths I guess.
Well, at least I wasn't the only one who had that song pop into their head upon reading the post!
Ah yes I remember "three guys one hammer" which was a video of three Ukrainian serial killers stabbing a guy in the eye and repeatedly in the stomach with a screwdriver and then beating him to death with a hammer.
Apparently one of the killers got out of prison in 2019. I imagine he's probably dead by now, given that he was most likely conscripted.
Last Podcast on the Left recently did a series on those guys. Unfortunately “three guys one hammer” was not a stand alone event.
[Last Podcast On The Left] Episode 656: The Dnepropetrovsk Maniacs Part I - Serial Spree 🅴 https://podcastaddict.com/last-podcast-on-the-left/episode/219151354 via @PodcastAddict
For the curious
Thank you so much for the link!
For all your flash nostalgia needs: https://flashpointarchive.org/
Weird that frog in a blender isn't listed...
https://archive.org/details/joe-cartoon-frog-blender
itch.io has so many really cool free games that can be played in your browser. Neocities exists. So many cool communities exist on the internet
just because most of the most popular websites are terrible doesnt mean cool sites dont exist
Yeah, its the same as old man saying there's no good music.
There's not much corporately popular shoved in your face good music. But now is literally the golden age of all media, before we are all restricted from enjoying any of it without being a criminal or paying subscription fees just to log into my PC. I give it 5 or 8 years . they're already coming for emulation because people are sick of shitty new games.
You can still find the good of the internet. Use webrings, kagi small web search, use your bookmarks, neocities, Its still out there.
The fediverse is a big one too
The real issue is all your normie friends have no idea of this or are terrified of anything that isnt corponet, so they will not partake in ye olden web. But thats OK.
I saw war crimes and decided war was bad. Guess who decided that we shouldn't be able to see war crimes?
I was moderator on an online video platform at the time. I arrived to work early, get my coffee and went to my desk for my morning empty-the-queue-list routine... spitted my coffee, maybe puked a little... and moved on with my tasks!
Saw some lemons making party, some girls with a cup definitely not doing the cup song and a few leaks live, but otherwise it was a great time.
There was a brief moment in the internet during this time, not the wild west age of unmoderated forums and ascaii memes but the budding frontier town of rage comics and early social media. There was an exact point, just before the year Facebook became the defacto social network, where the internet could have taken a different path and lead to something great. You still see the chipped paint of that mural in places like Reddit before the premium and Lemmy before the shill accounts. The hangers on from the old world that catch the scraps the mega corps drop. Gaiaonline is still propped up by a dedicated community. Small forums grow like weeds in the cracked pavement.
If we could find those places, sure up their crumbling palisades against the endless effort to advertise, breathe life into them in our own quite ways. Create the internet we wanted instead of sulking in the one we were given.
Ok but people are already doing this.
Please point me to this.
Sure!
Awesome!
When I was a kid I saw a video of guy being high on drugs and cutting his own dick off. Was the best demonstration of that drugs are bad 😅
Or maybe he had a really itchy dick, you ever thought of that?
I'm still traumatized from some of those MySpace pages.
I'm fairly sure I saw the same beheading video in 2003. I was convinced it was real. My one friend was convinced it was fake. Our other friend couldn't decide.
Now, with hindsight, I'm STILL convinced it was real, but I'm wondering if what I saw was an early version of what would later become ISIS.
ISIS didn't exist formally yet in 2003, but it's not like they just came from nowhere. I'm fairly confident that I saw an early version of it with that beheading video.
Remember, the Taliban were prominent back then. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taliban
edit: grammar
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beheading_video
Wikipedia's comprehensiveness always amazes me
I saw it in that timeframe. Sadly, it's real.. ☹️😭
So a lot of their members were Saddam's party. Part of 'debaathification' involved putting everyone who had been in the party on a list, but the nature of a 1 party state, that includes everyone from professors and traffic engineers to professional throat-slitters and the people managing them. If you were on the list, you could not be employed at any state enterprise. This made anyone whose job didn't have a private sector equivalent, functionally unemployable.
The one I saw around the same time, perhaps a couple of years earlier, was from Chechnia. It has always been a favourite execution method of Islamists. ISIS didn't invent it.
was it... was it the one with the chain saw? I dont really want to remember it but its burned into my memory.
My dad sent me that video without any note or warning 😂
I think ISIS came (at least partially) from a group called "Al Quaeda in Iraq" if I recall. They were beheading people long before ISIS.
I never watched any beheading videos, for obvious reasons; even in youth or now
I did enjoy the Charles Cork shooting or whatever his dumbfuck name was? Forgot
Whole head did not come off. 2/10 beheading
And now it’s just normalised genocide by countries our governments claim are our allies
Welcome to our neighborhood!
https://neo-neighborhoods.neocities.org/
Does it have cartel beheading videos in 120p
I never went looking for extreme violence, but in my teens I sometimes visited the "extreme/bizarre" shock blogs of my country, so saw quite a few disgusting sexual videos that are burned into my mind forever, like cock-and-ball torture (up to self-amputation) and various bestiality types 😬
Rotten.com