Trump's spiritual advisor says that saying no to him is like saying no to God
She sells magical crucifixes and has warned of consequences from God for those who don’t stand with the president.
The president’s spiritual advisor, Florida-based televangelist scammer Paula White-Cain, said at a book-signing event this week that saying no to Donald Trump is the same thing as saying no to the Christian god.
While speaking during the event, White-Cain recounted how the president asked her to join his Evangelical advisory board before his 2016 inauguration, saying, “He’s got a strong persona, don’t get me wrong. Don’t start a fight with him.”
“Why would the evangelicals come out and vote for him?” she asked before saying that “God told me to” join his advisory board.
“Because one thing I said, ‘I’ll never do politics,'” she said. “But when it came down to it, it wasn’t about doing politics. It was about an assignment. To say no to President Trump would be saying no to God. And I won’t do that.
https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2026/04/trumps-spiritual-advisor-says-that-saying-no-to-him-is-like-saying-no-to-god/Open linkView original on lemmy.world
Yeah but then it becomes a bidding war. What if someone else already paid for a divine hit against you? God loves everyone but loves cash even more.
Of course these scam goblins love Trump.
I'm glad I live I Euro land, though both British and Austrian schillings are long gone...
Christian Curses! Get 'em right here folks!
Wanna live forever, see your enemies destroyed?
I guess it has been a long time since I went to Sunday school.
I need to atone for some genocidal conquests, how much will that set me back, like around $2K ish? You have coupons?
You have been excommunicated from evangelical crazy town for woke talk.
Ooh, how much did you pay for the excommunication?
Sounds like they are indulging in something... Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
“Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man living in the sky who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time!
"But He loves you. He loves you, and He needs money! He always needs money! He's all-powerful, all-perfect, all-knowing, and all-wise, somehow just can't handle money!” - George Carlin
It"s a shame he died so young. I always suspected the christians murdered him.
George Carlin? He died at 71 after many years of heart disease.
I thought he was in his 50s or 60s. Nevertheless, I suspect his life was cut short by fuckery.
He had heart problems going back to the 80s, he did a lot cocaine in his youth and made it to 71. It just is what it is.
Wow, what a rip off, don't listen to this lady. If you want one, I can set you up with the same deal PLUS VPN protection for $995.
Throw in a discount code for exorcism and you've got a deal, buddy!
You're in luck, I don't usually do this, but God herself just walked into my office and said for the next thirty minutes, I can include exorcism at no additional charge.
MAGA angels are just hookers with magic powers
Nah that's sumerian priestesses (yes I'm oversimplifying for effect and I'm aware there were many roles that didn't necessarily involve sex)
She's gotta afford all that plastic surgery somehow.
Funny how all the anti-trans "altering the body that God gave you is a sin" people are so quiet about that...
Question is that while obviously they know they are gifting they are targeting wealthy individuals.
Are those people the ones fooled or are they also on this grift?
That's basically indulgences for protestants without even claiming to be about after you die.
Also, sub divine spiritual beings willing to accept payment in exchange for enmity towards one's enemies are typically not angels. Magic practitioners who work with angels aren't doing that shit, and the ones who do that tend to go to demons, unaligned spirits, or gods.
Ah, another arrogant individual who presumes to know the mind of God.
I loathe televangelists. They are nothing like the Christ they claim to serve.
-Susan B. Anthony
The more money you have, the closer you are to god? That's mammon worship. Shameless shills for people who already have more than their fair share.
It's like these people literally never read the Bible and what Jesus had to say about that exact thing...
That is calvinism. The prosperity doctrine, or I'm sorry it's originally evolution something, but not the real type I can't recall right now. Wealth shows god's favour, the lack of it his rejection. They would like to help the poors, but it would be defying god's will if they did.
It's all predetermined, and a self serving philosophy.
The language she uses is why I despise the evangelical movement. It deigns us powerful and that leads to abuse of that power and supercilious arrogance that you are forever justified. No wonder the western christian church thinks their defecation smells of roses.
"prosperity gospel"
Billy Graham died with a fortune. They are one and the same, friend.
How is it that this administration has made me a fan of the fucking Pope??
It’s weird, i’ll grant you.
The enemy of my enemy is not necessarily my friend. They can both be shit in their own way.
That said, I'm happy that Catholics are hearing the message, even if they're ignoring it.
Then God is a traitor, a racist, and a pedophile.
Don't forget being a thief.
FTFY
Here's some real Christianity for you:
Christ said it's easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Slime balls through the centuries have tried to weasel their way past this simple truth with convoluted and ahistoric readings of Christ's words. But at the end of the day, the historical Jesus was a poor person. He hung out with other poor people. His friends were beggars, lepers, prostitutes, and social outcasts of all sorts. He lived like a poor person. He spoke like a poor person. He lived with other poor people. If you wanted to join his club, the first thing you had to do was give away all your wealth. He said rich people don't go to Heaven, and he meant it.
There is no such thing as a moral billionaire. There are no billionaires in paradise. Trump and his cabinet are a carnival of the Damned. I do not claim to know what level of wealth damns a person. But by the time you've hoarded enough wealth for a thousand lifetimes, you're certainly past that point. There are no billionaires in paradise. In the end, every last one of them burns.
Sometimes I really wish I was part of the cult so I could believe this. As it is I can only settle for that primal fear every person has to experience as they know they're at the very end. The Great Equalizer. But yeah, until then they're going to live fantastic lives off of our labor. Not quite as satisfying as an eternity burning.
When the game is over, the pawn and the king go to the same box.
Don't worry, they get their punishment after they die wink
Other real Christianity~
Christ will return leading a Holy Army that will murder everybody who doesn't bow down to Him and accept Him as Lord, many millions upon millions will be killed... and they won't even have peace in death, as Christ will condemn them to eternal torture with Hellfire, as He will all who won't worship Him who lived before, unfathomable tens billions of souls, all tortured forever and ever.
He's gross. He had some good points, but He's no moral authority on anything
Good thing this verse and the verse about the poor were written by completely different humans
Hell and the devil aren't even part of Christianity per se, it is something the baptist popularized as they are pagan concepts.
Yes, they are, per The Bible. Repeatedly.
Your claim was never even imagined until long after the 1611 KJV, it's apologetic tripe
Hell is not a "pagan" concept. Many religions share it, pagans weren't the first (or Christians)
Where are you hearing this? Share, I want to see the goofiness personally... it's certainly not from The Bible.
Hell, as most people imagine it, is from Dante"s Inferno.
https://medium.com/@BrazenChurch/hell-a-biblical-staple-the-bible-never-actually-mentions-c28b18b1aaaa
The modern concept of hell as a place of eternal torment is widely considered a synthesis of pagan afterlife ideas, Greek philosophy, and later Christian theology.
You are simply incorrect. That is why Jews have no concept of hell because it isn't even in the Old Testament. Satan is your advocate in judgement not a tormentor.
It is sad to see people not even understand their religion or where concepts actually come from.
Not really. Vivid Christian depictions of Hell existed long before Dante's Inferno was ever written, centuries of established history. Dante was Christian and Catholic, you're embarrassing yourself.
You are 100% wrong. Your source, "The Brazen Church" at Medium, is absolute apologist garbage, with no citations or footnotes, totally worthless, with many false claims without any historical basis. Note that your source ignores all of the descriptions of Hell, and instead focuses on only the translation of one word (Hell).
It is clearly described as a place of eternal torment, repeatedly, with vivid descriptions (whatever you'd like to call it).
Re Jews, they are another matter, they have differing beliefs than Christians. Satan was not an "advocate" per the Bible. I never claimed that Hell was Jewish, so try and stay focused.
Lastly, it's not my religion.
Now, please stop spreading misinformation that you've learned from Medium, it's a tragedy.
You are obviously no theologian so I will have to pass on your interpretations. The fact that you can't even admit that pagan depictions of hell were adopted by Christians is fucking bizarre.
Having attended many different Christian denominations in my life I can tell you the baptist are the only ones to talk about about hellfire and brimstone to any degree.
https://bigthink.com/high-culture/brief-history-hell/
https://medium.com/@BrazenChurch/how-when-the-idea-of-eternal-torment-invaded-church-doctrine-7610e6b70815
https://foundations.vision.org/hell-origins-idea-626
The fact that you deny fiction is the source of most of what people would consider hell is very telling. Not even mentioned in the Old Testament, but somehow saying the prince of peace conjured the eternal fires of tormented souls makes me doubt you even have a basic understanding of his teachings.
Now please stop denying history with your unsourced feeble attempts to prove that the devil and hell were not concepts borrowed from other religions including paganism.
Christianity itself is an amalgamation of many different religions before and during its formation. I am not sure what you gain by denying reality. Maybe it is your thing, cheers!
Fuck your god!
I'd like to know which one of the writers of The Boys has an actual working crystal futuretelling sphere. I have some questions about a lottery.
FOR real, although they cleverly write their script and make changes based on current political and global situationts while shooting the show.
Kripke ended up doing a whole video saying" i swear to god we didn't know, we were just trying to come up with the most insane shit possible"
Well, yeah... Did everyone not see that image he posted?
Oh, shoot, sorry... This is the one Iran posted in response to his post. Just freeze it at the first frame, everyone. Let's be adult about this.
I didn't know that was posted by Iran, is that true? Hilarious
Réal American Jésus would have used a folding chair.
Pretty sure American Jesus would take a queue form John Brown and use a broadsword for melee range combat.
Bring back the concept of «Heresy». Because this is it.
They will bring it back, you'll see. Everyone disagreeing with Trump will be the heretic. That's the way heresy works.
maralago face is real
Isnt this the plot line of the latest series of The Boys?
The Boys writers: "People aren't grasping the satire, is it still too subtle? Crank it up I guess."
Reality:
And we thought Idiocracy was a documentary.
i wish, at least there they turned to the smartest guy to help solve the problem.
From her perspective it actually makes sense.
God = The thing I make up stories about so that people give me money.
Trump = God
Pretty logical once you understand that these people don't believe in anything but making money.
The fact that people think Trump has a soul is alarming. His existence alone should disprove god.
The Christian god, perhaps. There’s also the deistic god, the first cause god, the pantheistic god, … so many gods. Our society kind of sucks at understanding god. There are so many definitions of god that don’t require concessions in science, yet the one that is attacked so often is only the anthropic god. Which is too bad, because it just leaves people feeling like they’re missing something important about community connection. When all we can agree on is that god is bullshit, we don’t have a common value set that helps us organize into larger structures. All we get is fucking Pilates workout groups, coffee shops selling us overpriced fruit bowls, and weird desperate attempts for connection with the gas station clerks.
Name one.
I can name like ten.
But you asked for one, so here you go.
The “First Cause” / “Unmoved Mover” (Classical Theism). Associated with Aristotle and later Thomas Aquinas.
God here is not a being in the universe, nor an interventionist agent tinkering with physics. Simply the necessary grounding of existence or causality itself.
Science describes how events unfold within the universe. This concept addresses why there is a universe at all (or why causal chains exist).
There is no contradiction because they operate at different explanatory levels.
My point stands. The common understanding of god is narrowly scoped to the piss poor anthropic god provided by Christianity and the like. There’s a broader world out there.
There is no necessary grounding for causality. Insisting there must be one is special pleading. And the prime mover god fails in any eternal universe model because infinite regress isn't a contradiction or impossibility. You'd also have to explain what created god; failing that, you'd have to special plead that it doesn't need a creator.
All said, the prime mover argument is one of the five dumbest arguments for a god.
But it isn’t a proof for God, It’s a definition of God. And these definitions of God have existed for a long time, which is why I would argue this isn’t a move of the goal post. These are goal posts that have been ignored. There’s also the idea that God is the totality of the universe, and that doesn’t come with any anthropic claims. In fact, I’d argue God being the totality of the universe is closer to some of the beliefs people have in modern day — loosely in association with Astrology, or the belief in some kind of cosmic energies. They just don’t call it God, But if you can distance yourself from the anthropic claims of God, then you can see they’re quite similar.
They do look quite similar, in that they're beliefs entirely ungrounded in observable evidence or rationality.
Yeah, nobody is arguing that these claims are grounded in observable evidence. I certainly am not. The only reason that argument has air is because people profess that it doesn’t exist in their scientific view of the world, where you “proportion belief to the evidence.” Nobody is saying that’s wrong. I’m just saying it leaves people with a pretty hollow understanding of what’s actually a much richer subject. People love to strawman the idea of god. Nobody likes to discuss the good things that came from having a common religion, regardless of how you define god. Nobody likes to consider that so many definitions of god don’t even operate on the same level of abstraction as science, and therefore you can hold both beliefs. Nobody takes seriously the argument that spirituality might be rather important for the animal which evolved for hundreds of thousands of years with spiritual beliefs and practices. Rather, we forget our neighbors and wonder why we are lonely.
Shrugging your shoulders and saying "must be god" is not addressing anything.
Which, coincidentally, is perfectly fitting to describe (make up) a god!
We never needed a god.
I don’t believe in god. But I do think it’s a valid and possibly necessary part of human history. Hence, it happened and we are here now. That information (even “god”) supported the evolution of our mind.
Who cares what this charlatan thinks? Prosperity gospel is blasphemous and evil.
Yes.
So people grasp this maybe more tangibly:
Between 25% to 35% of the US population is Y'all Qaeda.
They're completely delusional, psychotic religious extremists, who literally believe that they speak and act with the authority of God, and thus cannot be wrong.
You'd think at some point his base would start thinking he was the antichrist but no
They've never actually read their own handbook.
Her standards for an all-powerful, all-knowing god are pretty low. Or to quote Hulk, "puny god".
Oh. Dear. Fuck.
The right thing to do, because each has a documented history of being an utterly despicable despotic cunt?
I've often heard Americans say that one of their greatest strengths is how bipolar they are (with a more positive spin). Well now we're seeing the insane side in control of everything.
The manic side, I guess?
And Democrats are the depression (mental, not economic) side.
That makes their red (seeing red) vs blue (feeling blue) make sense, too.
The divine right of …….. the president of the USA?!?!?! Please. The entire world is waiting for one of 1) him to die 2) the midterms 3) the Supreme Court to strike down his stupid tarrifs 4) another US-style coup.
The entire world should be moving away from the crazy States of America. And let them rot by themselves but they won't.
“Hamanda acka acka racka deda backa sanda acka ambo osa cacka reeté eké banda acka riki dibi asha daaah”
That's my favorite Korn song
There's an episode of MASH where Klinger is trying to use voodoo on Colonel Potter to get his Section 8. I can't find the clip, but I'm pretty sure that's where she got this dialogue from...
As in, "you can say it but he'll never hear it"
A god that is aligned with Trump, is one that I reject.
It is wild that this season of The Boys was filmed months before this.
Yeah, I have been having a hard time watching this season as it parallels too closely with the real world. Like wTF, why is this show that is supposed to be OTT fiction so close to reality?
I dont know the whole quote but "what's a god to one that doesnt believe"
Tell me you're gonna burn in Hell if it exists without telling me you're going to burn in Hell if it exists.
She's nothing more than a Mammonite that has mutilated her face.
Yeah i'm a redditor, woh could you tell?
Man, I don't want to be offensive but even if you're conservative leaning (which is totally fine) Trump as a person is freaking nuts. If you can't agree with that you're probably in a cult or have a cult mentality. If someone you worked with had the same personally they'd be fired and you'd think they're nuts.
Okay that quote is being very much misconstrued, assuming the body of the post is the entire article.
First, she was contacted by God to join Trump's advisory council. Then, Trump asked her to join his advisory council. In this particular scenario, saying no to Trump would be denying God's will.
That is very different than a blanket "Trump == God"
Maaaaybe, but she's still cray cray. Start at around 37 minutes even. She's saying that Moses had to do battle to take the land in the bible. All of her ministries seem to be sounding smart about very nit picked parts of the bible that she is very confidently wrong about.
https://youtu.be/9oAk-e_dIkc?t=2188
If there's more ammo in the crazy cannon, we don't need to fire the fodder
i can't tell if that sounds cool or dumb
I didn't get that message from the title. It doesn't say Trump is God
Something something imperfect vessel.
Where are you seeing this being misconstrued as "Trump=God"?
The title, I'm assuming
Get some reading comprehension, holy fuck
Eat my poop
God has a nice warm place for her and all the rest of them
I’m so sad she’s married to the keyboardist for Journey. It’s. Upsetting. And I don’t even like him.
Hot take: she SHOULD stop. Believing. Let go of that feeling.
I mean journey blows lol
And this woman makes it super hard to explain how their late 70s albums were awesome AF.
Super mega apostasy
Or Pseudokhristos
Both fit the scheme of the tmnt theme
Saying NO to Trump is like saying NO to GOD!
-People trying to Kill the Pope!
Why does everyone on the internet seem to believe that the pope has the final say on anything and everything involving God? The whole reason why Christianity even exists to begin with is because a bunch of people decided to reject the pope and the Catholic church. So why would anyone care what he has to say unless they're Catholic?
Evangelists wanting the pope dead is not only unsurprising, it's expected.
Catholics are Christian you fucking dolt
You know what I'm saying; don't be so dense and pedantic.
I'm not being pedantic, the word you're looking for is "Protestantism".
It's a very important distinction.
The reason I did feel the need to point it out is because evangelical Christians really want people to believe that Catholics aren't real Christians.
Good lord even she got the Jigsaw surgeries
If you see yourself as god, why would u need a spiritual advisor? And if you see yourself as god, you should probably be committed.
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot! Krasnov has this lunatic while the drunk in charge of the military has the nutter Doug Wilson.
Sounds like she's worried her income stream is about to end.
At what point do we put them all on a boat and wish them luck as we banish them in search of another continent?
My brother in Christ, that’s how they got here
Then we must return the fervor.
I see what you did there
Let's hear from a non-sycophant. What? They were all fired?
No, no, in both cases the result is narcissistic, toddler-level tantrums. I can see her point.
I wonder if anyone has told this stupid bitch that a majority of this country has always said no to this piece of shit.
This administration is just getting crazier and crazier.
Holy shit that is the quintessential Mar-a-Lago face.
Look at this "spiritual advisor" doing her thing.
This lady is cancer
She is the Yoko-ono of Journey. As in her husband Jonathan Cain, the lead songwriter for Journey (Don't Stop Believin' etc) basically blew up the band by going full maga. They broke up just before I was due to see them in 2024 😭
Some people, like this lady, need medical care.
Better aim next time.
These people don't actually believe in god. Remember Rodrigo Borgia in Assassin's Creed 2 at the end?
@MicroWave Another worshiper of our avowed second-coming of Christ (anti-Christ?) :
https://factually.co/fact-checks/religion/bible-when-will-antichrist-be-revealed-7e919d
Back to the divine right of kings.
ISIS: USA Edition
Nobody in ISIS was claiming to be God. These people are worse.
If one of those guys posted a meme representing themselves as the living embodiment of God they would be the next one getting a burning tire around their neck.
Ivangelical State In the States
There sure are plenty of fruit cakes in the USA...yikes!! When religion becomes scary .
Turns out White-Cain is actually Cain, and we are all Abel being betrayed for doing our best. Let's hope that curse from God doesn't wipe out the country and sticks to just these traitorous jerkoffs.
I mean, While trying not to be a Reddit atheist here, if there is a Christian god there’s no way they aren’t a fascist god. Lmao. Look at the state of the world! It’s the classic “either God is not omnipotent or is malevolent”. With a god that allows this kind of untold suffering, possibly even creates it according to these Christians on earth, why would you even need Satan ? Would Satan also not be a good angel for, you know, dealing with every single bad person that’s ever existed for all of eternity? Idk I went to church way too much growing up
Nuremberg
As a socialist and an atheist, this just saves me time and energy. I only have to say no once.
This bitch can suck the hairiest, dirtiest part of my nutsack.
All the more reason to say no to him. As if I needed more reasons.
She's right from a Biblical standpoint, per "Bible Logic".
Bible Logic: render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's, Caesar is ruling because it is God's Will that they rule.
... and this is why we abandoned "Bible Logic" many centuries ago, because it's stupid.
Guess it's the official position of American Christians that saying no to a felon rapist is the same as saying no to God.
I don't have children, but if I did, I'd be keeping them far away from Christians.
Misread the headline and thought it said trump's spiteful advisor.
Still going with the full on antichrist vibes I see. I think Trump will soon demand to become a saint.
Because McCain wasn't good enough
I've said no to many imaginary friends.
Well then...
Fuck "god"
I read a lot of history and you get passages describing clearly insane courtiers, soothsayers, self proclaimed alchemists or whatever tell some king that if they just drink so and so much mercury or murder and eat a certain number of albino babies that they will become like Gods and I think holy shit people were crazy back then thank god I live in a civilized s
At the risk of attacking her appearance... Does she usually wear glasses or something? It feels like her face is incomplete and I'm not sure if that's just me or that she usually wears the malifecent horns or something.
Oh. Okay.
God God? As in Doctor Jesus's dad?
So all those little girls screaming "NO" during the decades of child rapes were actually talking to God?
Funny, I had dinner with God just last week and He said this girl was an idiot.