‘The President Is Right, The Pope Is Wrong’: Hannity Suggests Leo Has ‘Totally Lost Sight of the Bible and Its Teachings’
Fox News host Sean Hannity dedicated a segment of his Thursday show to deliver a message to Pope Leo XIV, suggesting he and others at the Vatican had totally lost sight of the true meaning of the bible and its teachings.
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Hannity thinks he (and Trump) knows more about how the Bible should be read and interpreted than the Pope?.......
Do these people even hear themselves?
Doesn't matter. Magats hear, believe and obey.
It's not so much MAGATs. How can the news allow people to say stuff like this to the public.
The real issue is our quality expectations to the news distribution
Its because its not news. They have the title of news outlet. However they are a conservative commentary channel, and they don't consider facts, neutrality or decour.
Even they have admitted that they are not news: "In 2020, Fox News successfully defended a defamation lawsuit involving Tucker Carlson by arguing that his program was primarily entertainment rather than factual reporting"
https://truthlytics.com/module-9-the-fox-news-defense-and-the-boundaries-between-journalism-and-entertainment/
And that no reasonable person would mistake it for actual news.
Which is profoundly stupid, how hard would it have been to get 50 people who all believe fox news is and only is factual news.
This is pretext for their base, to justify the Pope's upcoming assassination by the US government.
Vance again?
That's Vice President J(ust killed )D(a Pope) Vance for ya!
J(ust kille)D (a Pope)
ftfy
Nah I like "Da Pope" better for the D, good effort though.
Oooooh. I thought it was "Just killed d a pope". Forgot about "da". Thanks for clarifying!
Oh nah it's cool! No worries. Yours is a good enough way to do it. Like I said I just like "Da Pope" better for the D, especially now with Pope Leo being from Chicago.
That's a case I didn't consider yet
The US are going to bomb the Vatican and send in the special forces to abduct the pope. It's what they do.
I mean, this is pretty much a protestant viewpoint so... who cares?
They only hear the sound of cash flowing in their pockets
Yes they don't care
Religion is a cloak they wear, they don't really believe it
I mean MAGA is mostly made up of Protestants/Evangelicals. There was kinda a whole thing about thinking the pope was wrong
It's quite interesting how close hannity is to trump, he has seen having golf meetings with him
-Bible, New Testament's teachings of Jesus
-Republicans
-Pope
-Faux News
^My basic understanding of whats going on.
Ex-cultist here. Specifically, fundamentalist Christian in the US.
So what we're seeing here is a division between in-groups and out-groups, and drawing that circle closer as a means of guarding against valid criticism. Consider; the standard response of most cults when they are under attack is to double down on its assertions that it is telling the truth. Most cults are built with a persecution complex as key part of exploiting their believers.
This tactic triggers their emotional response to rally to the defense of their cause, because "We're under attack! We're being hunted! The Worst Thing Possible is going to happen, and it is THIS PERSECUTOR'S fault!" This also forces a false choice in members who are doubting the leadership, forcing them to either cut all social ties and side with the enemy (they are trained to see this as a fate worse than death) or rehearse their dogma and rally without question.
Congrats on getting out.
^My basic understanding of whats going on.
We were explaining different things. Where I was giving a general summation of events, yours explains the motive. 2 sides to the same coin.
It also says "kill others", you should read it. LOTS of instructions on killing
There are many reasons not to be murderous, the Bible isn't one of them. Does it say "do not murder?" YES. Does it also say "murder". YES. Many times. Throughout.
Fixed
Lmao I love how folks are telling the VOICE OF GOD ON EARTH that he's wrong.
(I'm an atheist and don't believe it, but this whole situation is hilarious.)
Catholics are not real "Christians". So they dont believe in the Pope's position or respect the Pope.
I cannot fathom telling a guy who has dedicated his life to the church though that he doesn't understand the bible. Then again that is the republican MO, if you think you know better than an expert clearly you do.
I'm going to be pedantic, but it's the exact opposite of what you wrote. Catholics are a branch of Christians, who give more importance to the role of saints and the teachings of the Roman Catholic Church, among other differences.
So you should actually argue that they are not really Catholics, if they don't recognize the authority of the Pope.
I had to read their comment a few times, but I think when they said "they," they were referring to people like Hannity.
Like "according to people like Hannity, Catholics are not real Christians. Therefore, people like Hannity don't believe in the Pope's position or respect the Pope"
Definitely a strange way to word it.
Catholics aren't a "branch" of Christians, they are the tree itself. The first church, they dominated for many centuries, and still do, as this discourse proves; the Pope and church remain very influential
Catholics are as Christian as any other Christian.
I mean the catholics have shaped all Christianity.
Be sure you don't say this in front of an Orthodox Christian...
No they haven't, not even all chalcedonian Christianity.
Yes they have, they dominated for many centuries, and are still the largest denomination.
Being the largest denomination does not mean they shaped all Christianity. In fact Christianity was shaped before the Catholics split, in the middle east and Asia Minor with Rome being a fringe player.
Their later innovations were mostly left unadopted by the other half of the church and also caused a new split resulting in major intra-Christian religious wars. In fact since Catholics are merely a plurality and not a majority most Christians reject, frankly an understatement, the defining characteristic of Catholicism, papal infallibility.
The pope does understand the Bible, and he knows damn well that he's misrepresenting it. That's his job (and always has been).
Read the Bible, see for yourself. If you are short on time, just read Revelation (the last book).
p.s. my most hated comment ever! THANK YOU fuck the pope
Agreed.
I mean, it's my favorite book of the Bible. But it's the most easily misunderstood and misinterpreted. The whole thing is an allegory written in a particular kind of prose, drawing on tropes common to a genre of writing scholars call "apocalypse." But given that even lifelong Christians are unaware of this fact means that this is definitely not the book to recommend reading as an entry point. Unless you're looking for inspiration for something to airbrush on the side of your bitchin' van (hopefully one with a crescent moon bubble window on the back). Then by all means flip to the section right before the maps and get to sketching!
ABSOLUTELY. I love the book of Revelation, but too many don't understand how to read apocalyptic literature, nor do they understand the source material to contextualize the heavy symbolism. I blame a ton of the dumbshit premillenial dispensationalism crudely hobbled together to resemble a form of eschatology on a poor understanding of Revelation, Dallas Theological Seminary for spreading the fuck out of it, and Schofield for being the dipass to keep it from remaining the obscure hallucinogenic ramblings of a (probably) sick pentecostal woman in England. Man there are so many cool things about the theology of hope and some strong influences of Stoic philosophy(again), but man does American theology love to fetishize about the unbelievers facing a gruesome divine genocide...
Knowing the context makes it worse in my opinion, but you do you.
You know what's really stupid? Thinking Jesus is a beacon of peace, He's horrifying. If you can't handle Him murdering everybody in a rage, you can't get through the Bible anyway.
The crescent moon window is.... Chef's kiss
It's the only "cool" book the rest is boring nonsense.
The only people I have ever heard qout revelations, are nutters, and people trying to get money. It reads like biblical fanfic.
My favorite part is the giant people-faced Scorpions wearing gold hats.
Careful, or Pestilence will ride you down like a mangy dog, or something
You've gone hysterical... it is the dumbest book, and that's why I recommend it.
Yes, please, read the apocalyptic fever dream of a crazy man as proof that god exists. I'm totally convinced!
I didn't recommend it to convince people that God exists.
Why should anyone care what the bible says?
The Bible permeates the USA and its government, it's very useful for understanding why things are the way they are.
Thing is, they claim that they care about religion. Not sure how many deadly sins they are gobbling up with all of that because something doesn't add up.
They're def breaking every single commandment
There's a name for catholics who believe that the pope isn't always right.
They are called protestants.
Catholicism only has one firm rule: The pope is always right, without exception. There's nothing wrong with criticizing the pope. Just don't call yourself a catholic if you do.
A friend of mine studied theology and said (when I remarked something similar) that that's a very Protestant perspective.
Catholicism has had a long history of people disagreeing with the pope. There have been antipopes, wars between Catholics and the Papal State, theological factions where the Pope is just one participant, etc. . Papal infallibility is a very recent doctrine, and it only applies when he is speaking ex cathedra, which is rarely. Many Catholics don't adhere to it, and many only consider it a matter of worldly convenience against schisms.
That said, there are no AI generated images of Trump wearing Papal vestments or overseeing the holy mass. Trump is not presented as an anti-Pope, but as an anti-Christ.
Do they annihilate releasing huge amounts of energy if they touch the regular pope?
This explains it pretty well.
Yes.
https://media.cnn.com/api/v1/images/stellar/prod/112077-trump-ai-pope-vert-thumb-dirty.png
I believe this was from before the new pope was decided.
Well, technically the Pope is only infallible with respect to cathedral matters:
And since the dogma of infallibility was proclaimed close to 200 years ago, there have only been two instances it has been invoked.
That's not really true at all though. The pope isn't always right, without exception. He's only infallible on matters of faith or morals, and on doctrine which is stated as being the view of the church and which invokes his supreme authority. Popes are capable of being wrong, making mistakes, or sinning.
It is a lot more nuanced then that, but for many catholics that is how it is.
I’m sorry, but this is BS.
The Church is run by people and people are fallible.
Bishops sign their names with an upside down cross to remind themselves that they are sinners who make mistakes.
A shocking number of saints are people martyred for standing up to the Church when it had become corrupt.
It’s a Catholic’s duty to stand for what is right.
Except for when boys are diddled. That's kept hush hush and the diddlers get to live in a protected "country" that probably has their own "Epstienish" activities going on
Hannity doesn't call himself Catholic, and that's also not exactly true.
As an ex-Catholic: Catholics only have to accept things that the Pope says ex cathedra, which means he has to make a formal, official statement speaking for the Church, not just expressing his personal views. You can also criticize the Pope's behavior, the Pope is still a sinner like everyone else, only Jesus is without sin. That's how Catholics deal with all those mideval popes having gay harems and stuff, and it's also how they deal with all the times the Church was wrong, like claiming that the sun revolved around the earth.
Infallibility has to be limited in scope or it wouldn't be possible to weasel out of things.
bro, I am muslim so I have no idea how christian values work but even I can see this is heresy to an unbelievable degree. Your president calls himself the second Jesus, you cannot defend him against any religious person at that point, let alone the Pope.
Where I'm at the Christians have mostly completely lost the plot. There's this complete perversion of the faith called Prosperity Gospel that basically believes money is proof of divine blessing. So being rich is proof you're in Gods favor.
Also where I am there's is non-0 number of Christians who legitimately believe we/someone needs to rebuild ancient buildings in the middle east so Jesus can return.
It's a death cult that believes money is proof that God approves of you. While simultaneously believing unending war/genocide in the middle east is a necessary evil. So they can just shrug their shoulders while people are slaughtered and say "God works in mysterious ways!"
Send help.
This is a mess of America's making.
You're going to have to fix it yourselves.
(Unless it gets so bad that you guys are an existential threat to the rest of the planet - then the rest of the world might be forced to take action that nobody wants)
I understand, thoughts and prayers will suffice inshallah.
Gets so bad?
When the idiots invade Canada then we will come over to undo your failed experiment.
Actually, for a fascist it's very easy. When words dont really mean anything and your ideology demands no consistency you can say what you want and defend the indefensible. If you think that rational people would see through all that you're right, but their followers arent. They've been trained for over forty years to be led by the nose by their media peer group. Be it conservative news or Facebook posts or green text or their local evangelical demigogue, whatever it is they will be told what they want to hear. Trump is right, and by extention they are right too. And to question it is to put at risk all the relationships they've built up over their lifetime. To be wrong is too risky, so they simply arent. And people like Sean Hannity can say whatever they want without question.
Well said. It's brutal to see this happen to Christian family members. It's impossible to penetrate
The parts of the bible he is talking about:
(him defending Trump in 2016, according to Wikipedia)
So this is how they justify pedophiles
I mean yeah, that's the one thing the Pope and Trump would agree on.
Mary was, what, ~14 when their deity impregnated her, so yeah... Their baseline is not well calibrated.
And the part of the Bible he was talking about isn't even in the Bible. It says David had concubines, but it doesn't say how many.
It does tell us that Solomon had 300 concubines (in addition to 700 wives). Solomon expanded on his father's excesses, so David probably had a more modest number of women in his household.
I'm sure Fox personalities wouldn't really care that atheists know more about the Bible than they do. My money is on most of them not actually believing anything they say on TV. (Remember those text messages about Trump?)
These people would be so funny, if they weren't so dangerous.
Kinda like chimps, they're funny at the zoo, but give them machine guns
hell Chimps are scary without them. Have you read the recent story about the massive chimp civil war going on?
Obviously it'd be dangerous regardless but it got me thinking....does a chimp have the fine motor control to operate a firearm?
If there's ever been a finer time to fuck around and find out I wouldn't know... Being European, getting access to enough guns for a proper study is impossible for me. Of course we can just throw a single gun into a single enclosure, but that wouldn't produce reliable results. But if somebody living in a place with laxer gun laws would get on board, I'd let them get their name on the article as number two and not et al.
Oh, that sounds fun. Sounds like something the RNC would love for the conventions. Go to support the 2nd amendment afterall.
Made me think of wolves and sheep.
Which in turns make me think of Billy Simons Jr's "they made a pig the pilot"... Guess that next on the playlist
Am I wrong, or is the thing the Pope said that has these freaks so upset basically like, "war is bad, don't do it"?
I mean for fuck sake...
Just a distraction
What gets me is that the Pope is just saying pretty basic Christian teachings. Simply the kinds of stuff Jesus says in the Sermon on the Mount. And the media is like "LOOK HE'S ATTACKING TRUMP!" The fact that he doesn't really specify the USA or anything says a lot about the state of things, where the basic Gospel of Jesus Christ is seen as inherently confrontational to the MAGA agenda.
Y'all raised in normal places have no idea how much the average Evangelical thinks the Catholic church is straight up Satanic. My parents swore up and down when I was a kid that Pope JP2 was entirely evil to the core, as were all Catholics other than JFK, ironically.
Maybe 98.5% of Faux News viewers didn't bat an eye at this, and took yet another Big swig of the Kool-aid. This is an absolutely normal perspective for American Evangelicals.
You wanna hear something that’ll absolutely destroy whatever little faith in humanity you may have left?
I once knew a guy who knew for a fact that Southern Baptist was the only true Christian religion. His reasoning? And he was absolutely dead serious when he said this and for him is was 100% a mic drop moment:
“Because his name was John the Baptist, not John the Catholic!”
This was something his aunt had said to him years ago, which I guess underscored its infallibility. He was by far the dumbest person I had ever met, and I’ve met a lot of dumb people.
They're all like that. They memorize some glib one-liner and think by doing so they know more than scientists, historians, doctors. It's what happens when you say to narcissists, "Yes, you ARE speaking for/to God!" You create ignorant monsters.
Oh, my friend, I've met modern slaves and child brides. Faith in humanity ceased to be a whole category of emotion I can hold onto decades ago.
The real irony is that this is a running joke from non-Baptist sects, but Baptists sometimes buy into it, and not to drag this down a pedantic road, but there is a whole thing about Baptists claiming some unbroken line of baptism as a practice back to JtB.
Then again, you have never meet me.
When I was a teenager in the '90s, my mom's church did a six-week series of lessons on Wednesday nights about how the Catholic church only pretends to be Christian, followed by another series of lessons about how the Pope meets all of the criteria to be the Antichrist.
As Jesus said, "Love your neighbor, but only if he believes in me in exactly the same way you do."
Aw, my Mom would have LOVED that. I think she just had talk radio and a few random books from the local Christian book store to push her into that corner.
Jesus says that when He returns He will murder everyone who doesn't bow to Him. The resulting lake of blood will be miles wide and as deep as "a horse's bridle".
Wait, there was a secret John Paul the 3rd??? No wonder they thought he was evil!!!
LOL, sorry, my bad. I just remembered that he was Polish, I forgot which number JP he was.
As an atheist, this is high popcorn season 🍿 And just when you think, US Americans can not behave more brainless, they start a feud with the pope. Is there anyone left they haven't pissed off?
Putin?
Bibi?
Who is Hannity?
Why does this matter? - because it shows that Hannity doesn't matter. Any more than the 12 of us in this thread. - He is alive and has a mouth, are his accomplishments and skills, Yet his thoughts and opinions are played across the loudspeakers of the camp.
While I understand what you're saying, Hannity absolutely matters because millions of people listen to his bullshit. His past doesn't matter as he is a powerful propagandist now.
Agreed, he definitely is. My goal is to dissipate the 'aura of authority' on him in peoples minds, and show him for what he is, with hopes that the magic will wear off.
True meaning being what? Might is right? Greed is good? Racism is super cool? Ignorance is knowledge?
More like War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, and Ignorance is Strength.
Hatred is Love.
According to these people empathy is a sin.
- Book of Revelations chapter 13, verse 3-7
Now, I'm not saying that Saint John received divine inspiration. I'm saying that the well-known and well-funded US-based Christian death cult that wants to make the Rapture happen as soon as possible by meeting the conditions of the End Times might be happy to see things going according to (their reading of the) plan.
Humans haven't changed in thousands of years. The author had likely met enough narcissistic assholes in his time that he knew how they operated, and wanted to warn us against them. Scholars think the book was originally about Emperor Nero, and it kind of makes sense it all applies to Trump.
I wonder if gaslighting religion is going to work on the MAGA base, they have to go against what they were taught their whole life now, a really test of the cult loyalty.
Well, I'd argue that most of MAGA is evangelical, who tend to view Catholicism as either "fake Christianity" or a kind of quaint remnant of an older time that Protestantism fixed (and evangelicalism perfected). So most of them are already on board with the idea that the Pope is bad.
MAGA is itself a religion. They are Christian because it gives them an excuse to treat women and dark skinned people badly, not because they believe in the teachings of Jesus Christ.
If they have to choose, MAGA aligns with their beliefs more than a segment of Christianity that many Evangelicals already dislike.
A lot of people don't realise that ideology replaced religion as the source of mass movements. Ever since the rise of liberal individualism and scientific revolution, the role of religion diminished as the glue for community and source of knowledge. This is what Friedrich Nietzsche meant by "God is dead". It is not a coincidence that political movements centred on the mass mobilisation, namely socialism, communism and fascism, have sprung up around the same time.
Unfortunately, we are seeing the same thing unfolding again in our lifetime. The rise of neoliberalism, when Margaret Thatcher declared "there is no society, only individuals", is what initiated the death of community and social cohesion in recent memory. This led to plenty of lonely individuals who are easy preys for the far-right, as was the case before in Germany and Italy.
Catholicism has diminished since The Black Death, liberal individualism and the scientific revolution would have never occurred if the Catholics still owned Europe.
The plague revealed the powerlessness of the faith; in the beginning, Catholics ruled Europe and controlled people from birth to death. After, they never recovered the same authority for obvious reasons.
And if you don't like that counterfactual, I've got others.
Jesus Christ teaches that when He comes back, He will murder everyone who doesn't bow to Him. He's kind of a dick. There's no good guy in this fight
I bet Trump is now especially unhappy that the Pope is American otherwise he would be all like "that is what happens when you choose a European/Latin american pope"
100% and I think it might have been one of the reason he was chosen. This may legit deprogram some MAGA's into leaving him like the epstine files did.
MAGA churches want to speedrun towards Armageddon. War in the Middle East is what they crave.
Sunk Cost!
They've been telling themselves that they're persecuted for so long, the turn to realize they are the baddies would break most people.
They will Kowtow to an all knowing and powerful God that is speaking through the divine Trump (who may or may not be the antichrist). Because that all knowing and all powerful God has chosen to place him there and respecting authority is respecting God.
That trap hasn't sprung but the fear of it brought us to white nationalist storming the Capitol. It's like a cultural poison pill that has been boiled in conspiracy theories since the eighties.
Yes, because they can twist it to their versions of what ever it is they believe. As long as Trump continues his war on immigration then all will be good amongst the majority of MAGA zealous.
As an non-American who was baptised Catholic and observing US politics, I've always wondered how could the mostly Protestant, Christian nationalists would work with Catholics. Well, here goes my answer.
Also, I am seeing a repeat of history here. The German Catholics opposed Hitler while it is the Protestants who supported him. Oh how history circles back!
As an American raised by evangelical nationalists, I always knew it would go down like this. There’s enough tolerance to function in day to day life but the behind closed doors contempt and downright hate, not for the theology or the scandals that come up, but the plain hate for people being different was instilled almost daily. They’d accept a kindness from a Catholic or Mormon neighbor, smile to their face, then talk shit as soon as they left. The entitlement and sense of superiority while simultaneously being victims is phenomenal. The more they realize they don’t need to rely on a broad idea of “Christianity” to further their agenda the more they’ll turn on every sect that doesn’t fit their idea of “Christianity”. I hope the Mormons are taking notes about the cost of hitching wagons with the evangelicals, cus they really hate you guys.
That's just people in general.
There’s a special kind of superiority for evangelicals like the people who raised me. There’s the hatred of racism, misogyny, xenophobia, homophobia- those are often easy to identify at first glance or figure out quickly. They want their white Christian America, and a substantial percentage of Mormons and Catholics are white and “Christian enough” when they need voter and public support. I think Catholics and Mormons have forgotten that the people they’ve been breaking bread with are the descendants of the people who terrorized the Irish and Italian immigrants and ran the Mormons out of New York, the Missouri, and tried to run them out of Idaho. Given time they’d probably turn on each other over Lutherans vs Baptists. They don’t actually want broad white evangelical supremacy, they want themselves alone to be supreme and to be able to tread on anyone else to have their way. They’ll always find an excuse to justify their personal “betterness”, but in fact are just empowering the oligarch class who will always reap the benefits of being above the law.
I thought the Mormons got run out of New York and Missouri because they were angry at all the cons that Joseph Smith was running at the expense of the local populace.
That does tend to be the source of most religious disputes- your salvation grift is cutting into our salvation grift, your cult is getting more popular than our cult, your influence could be a threat to local politics. Mormonism wasn’t rebuked by a woke mob of atheists sick of conmen, advocating science, and opposed to a new version of the old patriarchy, it was rebuked by a mob of other Christians who thought their Christianity was better. They joined forces out of bigotry, jealousy, greed, and xenophobia. Smith was a charlatan in Jesus’ name, he was just a more successful one than his rivals and that pissed then off.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/researchers-find-evidence-pope-pius-xii-ignored-reports-holocaust-180974795/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Pius_XII_and_the_Holocaust
The Pope at time disagreed with the German Catholics and agreed with Nazis
Wasn't it Pius who also worked with the resistance and was a part of a plot to have Hitler assasinated?
Indeed, and that is why The Little Bastard Austrian Corporal made a deal with the Vatican and created the "Reichskonkordat" and it still exists to this very day.
Imagine what sort of idiot would tell the Pope that he's wrong on matters of theology.
"Hannity suggests . . . "
Ok. There we go . . .
They're laying the ground work to officially start their own religion.
💯
They'll try to canonize prosperity gospel and make Trump their savior stand in.
My new favorite passage " And then, one Thursday, nearly two thousand years after one man had been nailed to a tree for saying how great it would be to be nice to people for a change, a girl sitting on her own in a small café in Rickmansworth suddenly realized what it was that had been going wrong all this time, and she finally knew how the world could be made a good and happy place. This time it was right, it would work, and no one would have to get nailed to anything.
Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy (Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, #1) "
President is right Tolkien knows nothing about Middle Earth.
Hanity left the Catholic Church when he was having sexual affairs and wanted to divorce his wife.
That's the reason. His excuse came later.
Not saying the pope is perfect or anything, lotta baggage over there, but Trump is feeling pretty anti-Christy
I'd say he's more like Moloch.
We just need to come out and say it. These MAGA are all mentally ill and they need help immediately.
There is no other logical explanation for their actions.
Is cult mentality. They would rather cling to even the most ridiculous ideas than admit to themselves that they were duped by an obvious conman
Proof the cult leaders don't give a rats ass about religion or faith, they're just tools to manipulate the masses.
As soon as someone with more credibility questions them, they move their goalposts to compensate.
You'all the number of times this administration has me fucking defending shitheads organizations because our idiots in charge are wrong, dumb, and morally off in BFE is too damn high.
He's The Fucking Pope, that's like, his whole thing
The Christian Nationalist shit for brains are making an attempt to teach religion to Pope Leo. GTFO and these clowns are identical to the Kremlin backed Orthodox lunatics who preach the Ukraine invasion is correct.
They are already positioning Trump for a religious re-brand when he's out after 2028. He will be the competition for the Pope in the MAGA religion. It's going to be the hottest, richest, most popular religion in the Universe, and Trump is your direct messenger to God.
They were hitting it HARD during the Biden administration, but the media wasn't covering it, of course. They quieted it down a bit when he got re-elected, but now that things are going even worse than predicted, they are ramping up the religious rhetoric again - "You better not mess with Trump, he knows Jesus and God personally."
They probably think that Americans won't have the stomach for prosecuting a genuine religious prophet. Yeah? Watch me.
100 trump coins guarantee a meter square of land in heaven
What's a meter? Is this some commie shit I'm too Burger to understand?
I know you meant this comment as a portent of ill tidings, but "out in 2028" and "the media wasn't covering him" just sounds so relaxing, I'm having a hard time getting worked up over it.
But it’s not a cult, guys.
Conflicting cults, let them fight
That's exactly what I'm hoping for.
[Cheatsheet] Trump is right, everyone who disagrees with him is wrong.
Dear Leader Daddy Dumpy can never be wrong! EVER!
Somebody never got the memo about papal infallibility
Blasphemous Pharisee with blood money all over him.
Ah, so we’re gaslighting the bible now? It doesn’t say what it says? The Right have been just ignoring it for a while, now they’re just straight up contradicting it.
The Bible has been used to argue both sides of issues for centuries.
There are passages that both condemn violence and that call for violence.
There are verses that support slavery and that condemn it.
And all of those can be “interpreted” by the reader or church to mean whatever they want.
Which is what we’re used to.
But for the first time in a long time we have government leaders basically telling the church “nuh uh…” and not even offering a rebuttal like “my religion says…” They’re just gaslighting like a contradictory 4 year old with chocolate on their face being asked if they ate all the brownies.
To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted; A time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up; A time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance; A time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together; a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing; A time to get, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to cast away; A time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak; A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace. -Ecclesiastes 3: 1-8.
"The devil can cite Scripture for his purpose" - Wm. Shakespeare: Merchant of Venice.
What do you think it says?
There's no reason in the Bible to not be at war with Iran, or anybody else. Murder is used to punish the unworthy from beginning to end.
Have you read the Old Testament? Several genocides done in the name of Yahweh. Not going to defend Hannity, but the Pope was kind of wrong when he said:
Even Jesus himself said:
Pretty much exactly the opposite of the Pope's tweet.
Edit:
Lol at people replying to me thinking that I'm somehow defending the Bible or the scum who use it. Just like pointing out that it's all complete nonsense
Nothing like using a book from over two thousand years ago to justify why you think someone today is wrong.
You're replying to one the the most anti-religion people on here. I assure you that I'm not justifying anything.
They are wrong because they are wrong. I'm not sure what you think needs justification.
More of a comment than an accusation, religious people are fucked lol
》 Matthew 10:34-36
》Ignores all of the other many lines in the chapter saying not to fight
It's almost like cherry-picking random lines to oppose other random lines isn't viable.
It's almost like the book is complete nonsense, and any attempt to quote it to defend any type of behavior is fucking stupid
I assure you that I didn't ignore shit, my point was that it's all contradictory
You did ignore things, you were just consciously omitting text that reshape the meaning of your quote. Because, when taken in larger context, the meaning of quotes changes. Lile how language works.
But I agree that quoting the Bible as if it were a collection of independent axioms needs to stop. I'm just not in favor of your Hammurabian approach to disproving it. Everything can look like bollocks when everyone uses shite methods of proof but for opposite positions.
I didn't ignore shit. By this logic, anyone posting any verse is ignoring and consciously omitting the contradictions that always exist.
Preachers have been doing exactly that since before the Bible was codified by the council of Nicaea. And continue to do so in increasingly more outrageous ways.
Yeah. That sucks.
I'm of the belief that the Bible isn't some living, hold text. It's just a history book of the philosophy of Christianity, where the Old Testament is used as foundational context for the espoused philosophy in the New Testament. Pretending every word is divinely-inspired and every verse has to be Truth is weird and completely incorrect.
At least Trump has learned to have others, who are disposable, say what he wants to say.
Well, he's saying the same things on Truth Social. There's not some clever communication strategy to distance himself from the message.
Fox News asking the hard hitting questions, such as “Is the pope Catholic?”
True investigative journalism is finding out if bears shit in the woods. Details at 11:00.
That's all the content. No need to go to either of those barf outlets.
' # of times wealth is criticized and statements about treating the poor better: ~3,000
' # of times paul wrote that pork isn't going to send you to hell: 1
' # of times paul actually said it was directly ok to eat pork: 0
Number of times you realized what the hashtag symbol does in this app
zero
Wasn't the pork thing in the Peter books?
Acts of the Apostles (written by Saint Luke). Saint Peter is recorded as having a vision of Jesus telling him to eat non-kosher foods. This is all a means to let Saint Peter know that Gentiles are not be treated as "unclean."
I can't think of a single instance where Saint Paul mentions pork.
Ahh, right Acts/Luke, not Peter. Thanks.
I'd say it's amazing how much of a fuckwit Hannity is, but it's not amazing; it's unsurprisingly typical, given his MAGAtty allegiance.
Since when is Hannity back on air? I thought he got dropped.
Was thinking the same thing, I hadn't heard about Hannity in a long time
Trump's not going to heaven. He's starting his own heaven, with blackjack and hookers, where he's god and Kid Rock is jesus or something
And he's going to bankrupt it.
Person who has dedicated their entire life to the understanding, debate, discussion, research, philosophy to their religion or a man who at best is a grifter at worst guilty of serious crimes.
I think ‘The President Is Wrong, The Pope Is Right’: Hannity Suggests Donald Has ‘Totally Lost Sight of the Bible and Its Teachings’ sounds more correct and truthful.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avignon_Papacy
is what Trump is trying to do.
They are looking for a mar-a-lago Papacy.
Americas about to get excommunicated at this rate.
If you claim to be a Christian but deny the doctrine of Papal Infallibility, you are not Catholic; you are what they call schismatic.
Not all statements by the pope are regarded as infallible by Catholics. In fact, invoking infallibility is very rare. However Leo's statements on the Iran War are very clearly in line with Catholic doctrine.
A key distinction between terms here is that while Catholics are probably the largest single Christian group in the US, a larger Christian percentage belongs to various Protestant groups. They already don't care about the pope and think Catholics are wrong
Did it ever occur to those morons that they might read the bible?
Pete Hegseth, the bible-thumping secretary of war, used the fake Bible quote from Pulp Fiction at the Pentagon prayer group earlier this week.
Pete has a shit ton of "crusauder" (and totally not white-nationalist) tattoos. Christianity is a label/identity for people like him, not a lifestyle or personal moral code.
The issue here is that there's a lot of room for interpretation. Slavers used the bible as defence for their actions.
The Bible is absolutely not up to interpretation regarding slavery. It is unambiguously pro-slavery.
It is? It may be clear I'm no theologian. Have you any verses off hand?
Edit: I went off and did some digging and it looks like you're more or less spot on. There are verses in various parts of the old testament that just accept slavery as a thing.
Some new testament bits are clearly anti-slavery though.
There is more than that. It tells you, in detail, how to beat your gentile slaves vs your Jewish slaves. And how you can fuck the wife of a dead slave (I might be forgetting the specifics of that one).
In the New Testament, Jesus tells slaves to obey their masters, even the shitty ones.
He (allegedly) existed in a culture steeped in slavery, and never once mentions that, I dunno, owning other humans as property is a bad thing.
Fuck all Abrahamic religions
"Jebus is woke!" >:(
PRA BA JEEBA
Who watches this trash? Boomers? What's left of the Silent Generation?
[nasal voice over intercom] Has patient number 13 reveived his sedatives yet?
The Pope is WRONG about the Bible!
-People who want The Bible to be LAW!
Excommunicate
I don't think anyone really cares about Fox news
Too easy to say that, they wouldn't be around if that were the case
So Trump is the anti-pope now?
Keep him out of Avignon though.
Evangelical nut bags vs the literal word of God.
My interpretation of imaginary bullshit created thousands of years ago is correct and yours isn't
Both are two pedophile
Each?
And do don't get me started on this Jesus guy!
sean hannity is an ex-catholic.
in his religion and in his own bible flavor, he definitely can say someone else is wrong.
It's all made up bullshit anyway.
let-them-fight.bmp
Yes! Don Jr and Eric v Hunter as the undercard for Leo the Pontiff v Don the TACO King
Sunday Sunday SUNDAY
Shut up, Sean.
This wonderfully shows the level of objectivity of Fox "News". And how far this media outlet has taken residence in Trumps rectum.
Found your own church of Mammon then?
And slow down a bit, caricaturists are only this fast.
I mean i agree with the Republicans here, kinda. Christianity is a death cult. It basically does not have people's wellbeing in mind, it mostly cares about "progress towards god" but that is an abstract, cold and merciless concept. It has nothing to do with "caring for the poor" and "taking in strangers". These things might have been what Jesus preached about, but that's long ago and what christianity has evolved into is basically the complete opposite of that.
These Republicans are deranged lunatics of they really think like hannity has any kind of ground to stand on over the pipes opinions.
Yet they’ll still protect the pope that protected pedophile priest because at least his politics and most of all gay hate and anti choice rhetoric lined up with them.
Hannity is "the antichrist", got it.
Considering how much conservatives would lose their minds if this were the other way around, I'd really appreciate it if liberals didn't let this gaffe slide lol
This should be a career ruining scandal, make it so.
I have never agreed with Hannity before, but I have to agree with him here.
The Bible is full of bloody mayhem, and Jesus was not a peacemaker. He promised to come back and murder everybody.
The only people that think Jesus is a kind hippy are people who haven't read the Bible. This image has been used by the church to dupe secular society since their fall from grace, but it's a falsehood.
This isn't the fox news comment section
Yup. In Jesus' own words:
But also, Fuck Sean Hannity.
When the preachers read from the bible they only choose very specific passages, and ignore any that don't support the point they want to make.
They know 99% of the people listening won't ever bother to read it themselves.
Its nothing more than simple manipulation.
They're both wrong.
And they're both assholes. Fuck the Pope and his international child trafficking ring.
Great stuff, do the Dali Lama next