Spyke
reddthat.com

Am millennial and have never once used that acronym. I always just type "haha" instead... haha

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Am millenial, I've used both lol and haha, since... I dunno, 1996?

I distinctly remember the first time I accidentally said 'lol' outloud, as a single syllable, at the end of a sentence.

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Millennials were ABSOLUTELY all about the lols, I can assure you. It was the most widely used acronym everywhere (second being brb, I would wager).

We roflcopter'd and roflmao'd with the best of em! lol

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Saapasreply
piefed.zip

It's pretty common with millenials at least

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lemmy.world

I used/use it a lot, became the standard when I was on AIM.

Mostly I feel people use it for tone and switch between the two. Then again I also respond with k too often apparently and have had spouses bring it up to me. "I'm going to pick up hot dog buns on the way home" k is apparently not always the proper response to such things apparently.

K, lol, cool/kool, alright, nice, oh... Apparently make up a lot of what she calls my NPC responses.

It's not that I don't care, it's that there really isn't a reason for me to send a flushed out response while I'm in a rush and or trying to respond at a red light. I'll see them soon, if i thought something else should be picked up at the store when they were there id either say so or call if I thought it warranted a quick discussion.

If I ask do you want tacos, sure is a perfectly valid response, we've shared a bed for 5 years.. if I don't know what you do and don't like on a taco I wasn't paying attention, if you want something you usually wouldn't, then it makes sense to say more

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Dozzi92reply
lemmy.world

But plenty of millennials did for sure. I'm 1987, was never a loler myself, but am certainly familiar enough with it.

And admittedly, I have used it. My buddy and I used to sit in his room playing red alert 2, and one of us would do something dumb and the other would type "lol," and then look across the room with a straight face. So I always imagined someone typing lol to be doing so with a completely straight face, the complete opposite of laughing out loud.

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1987 as well... i just never caught on to the acronyms.

BTW love the whole C&C franchise

Ope... i said BTW.. guess I contradicted myself. Oops.

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leminal.space

I tend to reserve haha for conveying mildly interesting observations in a nonthreatening manner

"You must be their best customer to know that, haha"

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sp3ctr4lreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

Same.

'haha' is more polite/cordial, more passive and may indicate essentially nervous laughter

'lol' is more blunt/informal, more aggressive and may potentially indicate mockery

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I did "haha" up until somewhat recently. I started using lol sarcastically, and it quickly bled over into the haha usage. I can't break the habit either....

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lemmy.ca

Tone is an absolute bitch to convey properly over text, if you don't add indicators it's up to the reader to determine the tone you're using. Miscommunication causes larger problems. Using lol helps indicate a lighter tone so people don't think I'm pissed off or grumpy when I'm not

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mimavoxreply
piefed.social

yeah, I mean that's why emojis exist in the first place.

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Good ol' smileys! :D

And somewhere inbetween, or perhaps alongside the smileys, we had the wonders of kaomoji

(◕‿◕✿)

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mimavoxreply
piefed.social

Regular text emojis have been around forever. I was talking about those.

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But consider:

Emojis have no soul, and will never see the light of Heaven

Text based emoticons, meanwhile :) :( :3 :o Are God's chosen tone indicator, animated with the breath of life

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lemmy.world

I had to teach myself to say lol all the time via text and it absolutely helps with tone, so does using emoji which was something else I had to force myself to do. I seem less mature I guess but I don’t come off as a blunt asshole anymore and my conversations go a lot smoother

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thelemmy.club

I’m afraid I’ve used “lol” so much for so many years that this is exactly how people will interpret my texts if I suddenly stop now.

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mika_mikareply
lemmy.world

I have been called weird or passive aggressive for using punctuation in my text messages. Why do we cater to these people? Why do I care about the opinion of someone who takes to heart whether I use an exclamation point or period at the end of a sentence? It should have been their problem to learn to not make assumptions.

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Because you're not following social conventions

It's also up to you to learn to work with others, conversation is a cooperative game. If you don't give enough signs, people don't know the tone you are intending to give over text, because body language and verbal tone is missing. That's the purpose of the informal conventions

It's your problem to learn too

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mimavoxreply
piefed.social

I perceive lol as slightly unserious / childish, but maybe it's because I'm GenX

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lemmy.world

I'm a Xennial? Born in 1980 so last year of Gen X, first year of Millennials?

I learned back in the early '90s that "lol" made my lighthearted comments appear lighthearted, and not cynical.

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quokk.au

What I want... No. What I need is a browser extension that would change every "lol" on every page into a small picture of a TIE Fighter. It would make that flyby noise if you put your mouse over it and you could blow it up by clicking.

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lemmy.world

Someone who's good at computer, please make! I'm going to assume it wouldn't be that hard.

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zoutreply
fedia.io

Your comment triggered me to ask an LLM to create it, and it came up with something. I'm not going to test it though, so we'll never know if it works. I'd advise anyone not to try it. It gave links to an image and a sound file that gave a 404 error. LLM output:

Here’s a complete Firefox extension that replaces the text "lol" with a TIE Fighter image, plays a sound on hover, and changes the image on click.

🔧 Firefox Extension: “Lol to TIE Fighter”

  1. Manifest File (manifest.json)
{
  "manifest_version": 2,
  "name": "Lol to TIE Fighter",
  "version": "1.0",
  "description": "Replaces 'lol' with a TIE Fighter image and plays sound on hover.",
  "permissions": [
    "activeScript",
    "scripting",
    "https://example.com/*"
  ],
  "content_scripts": [
    {
      "matches": ["<all_urls>"],
      "js": ["content.js"]
    }
  ],
  "background": {
    "scripts": ["background.js"]
  },
  "options_page": "options.html"
}
  1. Content Script (content.js)
document.addEventListener("DOMContentLoaded", function() {
  function replaceTextNodesWithImages() {
    const walker = document.createTreeWalker(document.body, NodeFilter.SHOW_TEXT, null, false);
    let node;
    while (node = walker.nextNode()) {
      if (node.textContent.includes("lol")) {
        const img = document.createElement("img");
        img.src = "https://example.com/tie-fighter.png"; // Replace with your image URL
        img.style.width = "20px";
        img.style.height = "20px";
        img.style.display = "inline-block";
        img.style.cursor = "pointer";

        // Sound on hover
        img.addEventListener("mouseover", () => playSound());

        // Blow up on click
        img.addEventListener("click", () => blowUp(img));

        node.replaceWith(img);
      }
    }
  }

  replaceTextNodesWithImages();
});

function playSound() {
  const audio = new Audio("https://example.com/sound.mp3"); // Replace with your sound URL
  audio.play();
}

function blowUp(img) {
  img.src = "https://example.com/blowup.png"; // Replace with a larger image or "none"
  img.style.width = "40px";
  img.style.height = "40px";
}
  1. Image and Sound Requirements TIE Fighter Image: Replace the URL in content.js with a public domain image. Example: TIE Fighter Image from Wikipedia Sound Effect: Replace the URL with a .mp3 file hosted on your server. Example: Sound Effect from FreeSound.org 🛠️ How to Use Create the files: manifest.json content.js Load the extension in Firefox: Go to about:debugging in Firefox. Click Add Extension and select the folder with your files. Test on any website with “lol” text. ⚠️ Notes Image/Sound URLs: Replace the URLs with your own hosted or public domain assets. Performance: This script runs on every page, so consider optimizing for large sites. Security: Ensure the image and sound URLs are secure to avoid errors. This extension replaces “lol” with a TIE Fighter image, plays a sound on hover, and expands the image on click. Adjust the URLs to match your assets!
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your LLM misunderstood the request, it is going to replace the entire sentence (or the entire comment/post) into the TIE fighter if it contains the "lol", not just the part where it is "lol". Also the "blow up" is not explosion, it thought it means "making it big"

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lemmy.ml

Lol, no.

Also this is millennial thing, not GenX. I don't know anyone from that generation that would use lol.

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quokk.au

Also this is millennial thing, not GenX.

Did someone say GenX? Or am I misreading your comment here?

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Yeah they did in response to a different comment elsewhere in t thus thread.

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sp3ctr4lreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

I keep seeing zoomers use this and it keeps confusing the shit out of me, because half the time, it just looks like crying, not laughing-crying.

Maybe they're just bad at it and using the wrong emoji half the time? idfk

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lemmy.world

Yeah the crying laughing emoji is 😂 why tf are they using the actual crying emoji

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sp3ctr4lreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

I genuinely do not know, but I keep running into that, where they just use the crying emoji and they tell me it means they're laughing so hard they cried (not literally of course but w/e)... even though there actually is a laughing-crying emoji.

I'm going to yell at clouds tiktok, its probably cloud's tiktok's fault, somehow.

EDIT:

like, I tell a joke, they respond with a crying emoji, I am confused and apologetic because I think I hurt their feelings and they are just sad crying... nope.

Nope they actually liked the joke.

This has happened to me a number of times in the last 6-9 months, with different people.

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Fischreply
discuss.tchncs.de

I am actually gen z and the "😂" has simply become cringe because older people overused it so much and I guess that's why we switched to "😭"

It's also interesting to me how you still see it as crying because my brain just doesn't make that connection at all anymore

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I genuienly appreciate the explanation, that makes sense.

2 reasons unc here sees them similarly:

A ) I barely ever use emojis

Many millennials grew up using

*-*

=D

:<

0.0

>=[

... style constructions to represent emotions / facial expressions in text.

I'm used to those, I'm not used to emojis.

B ) I'm just actually slowly losing visual acuity.

I'm getting oooollldddd.

I've got an astigmatism now, and I tend to only wear my glasses when I absolutely need to.

So I have to squint or put on my glasses to make out variations in emojis, sometimes.

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Maybe because it isn't cool to use 😂? It has a bit of a bad rep in that it's seen as a boomer-emoji, I think.

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It's because the regular laugh crying emoji got watered down so if something was really fuuny, one has to escalate.

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I've begun to find it grating, because somewhere along the line it seems to have been co-opted by people who exclusively communicate through passive aggression online lol

So it's no longer "Who did this 😭😭"

And more like "Why are you buying takeout after complaining about minimum wage being low 😭😭"

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It's like when it's sad but also funny, so like, you're laughing, but also crying in a "this is too real" kinda way

At least that's how me and my friends seem to use it :p

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The lol has contextual meaning though. Sometimes it means "you fucking idiot" and sometimes it means "thats funny" and sometimes it means "i dont care" etc.

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leminal.space

Sometimes I have to catch myself because posting a plain "lol" can now be misinterpreted as aggressive lmao

So if I have nothing to say I'll just go with "lollll"

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lemmy.world

Elder (and just old) millennial here. I remember "lol" became a thing because cell phones became a common thing. Specifically, the old flip phones.

Texting on them was a pain. Imagine having to type words with only a number pad. And you only had a tiny digital screen that could only fit a few words on it. On top of that, we were sometimes charged by the character. Or sometimes by the word. Depended on your service.

Everyone was looking for the shortest way to type words and get their message across. So shortcuts like "lol," "ily," "wdym," etc. became common use. As well as a variety of text emojis like :) :D :P or the fancy Japanese ones: (^_^) (-_-;;) etc.

As someone who spent their childhood with their nose buried in books, it bothered me to see this shorthand English everywhere. It just felt lazy to me. To this day, I've never typed "lol" unless I'm talking about the acronym itself.

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lemmy.ca

I'd say they were already very common in online chatrooms long before cellphones were widely adopted. They just translated really well to the poor typing options, character limits, and per-message billing of the time so became more widely adopted (and some new shorthand created).

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sp3ctr4lreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

Before us millenials had our own take at inventing initialisms and proto emojis...

Beepers. Pagers.

A fair number of different kinds of 'codes' became at least somewhat widely used as shorthand for more semantically complex things, and they had even smaller character limits.

https://www.wikihow.com/Pager-Codes

Now I was like 5 when pagers were all the rage, so I have no personal experience with these, but this was arguably the gen x version of millenials who spent too much time on computers as children coming up with 'gtfo' and 'lmao' and 'rofl' and such.

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mimavoxreply
piefed.social

GenX here. Yeah I remember beepers being all the rage in a brief window of time, just before cell phones took off. They were called "Minicall" here in Sweden.

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sp3ctr4lreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

Huh! It never occurred to me that there would be other funny/cute nicknames for them in other languages, but... duh, obviously, of course there would be.

Neat!

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mimavoxreply
piefed.social

Yeah. It could be that it was an actual brand name, but everyone called them that in any case.

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lemmy.ca

Hold up.

I think that mobile phones became popular before chat rooms.
Chat rooms existed first, but I think that they were mostly just for nerds until the early to mid 2000s

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Cell phones were only for grown ups and maybe rich kids, but anyone could install instant messaging software on the family computer.

Everyone I knew in high school, even if I wasn't friends with them, had AIM and even Facebook before all of them had phones, because phones cost money.

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notabotreply
piefed.social

Similar shorthand was used when sending telegrams, as they were charged by the character too.

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icelimitreply
lemmy.ml

Not aware of this helicopter stuff. What is that about? Lol?

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ROFLcopter or Rolling on the floor laughing like a helicopter is when something is so funny that you fall out of your seat laughing and you start kicking yourself giddily around the floor in a circle like a helicopter rotor.

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I have a tendency to speak very blunt and directly about most things, so lol is absolute necessity for me online in order to not blatantly spread ragebait everywhere I go lol

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I'm Gen Z and I use lol as punctuation at the end of a sentence to indicate a lighthearted tone, just like a ? or ! indicate their respective tones. It's very useful, and I think I'll keep using it lol

It fills a similar niche to tone tags but somewhat less intrusive imo.

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This has how it's always been used as far as I have seen as an older millennial, aside from being used in a form of irony.

It's an upbeat tone indicator. But it's not the same as sending someone a smile with your text.

It fills a useful niche. Just like /s also does.

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sopuli.xyz

lol is the millennials version of over, lol

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lemmy.ca

I was once sitting next to a colleague in a group pod who sent us an e-mail ending with "lol". I turned to my left and called him out on it because that dude was quiet as a mouse.

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Yeah it's a tone indicator "this may be taken as having a serious or upset tone, but wasn't meant that way" though it also can mean "please don't be upset" in the case of something like "sorry I disappeared for a bit, life happened lol"

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sh.itjust.works

There's no comma there. They use it as punctuation at the end of a sentence:

e.g.: "I heard your mother died I'm sorry lol"

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sh.itjust.works

lol. Yes it's a sentence all by itself, it means nothing, lol.

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I've really been struggling lately in a way that feels more serious than ever before lol

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Oh, sorry. Things just don't feel the same as when we were dating. I feel like the magic is gone. I want a divorce.

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lemmy.world

The only person I know with the lol habit is American. No one else does that.

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It's still better than using "literally" in every sentence.

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I still remember using lol, especially in speach, being seen as cringe worthy. And as such things happen people start using it ironically until everyone is using it and forgot it started as ironic.

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I did it all for the lulz (come on) the lulz (come on) so you can take that lol and stick it in your ahaha

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I think if I stopped adding lol to my messages, I'd instantly become the most racist existence known to man.

Wait, where's my lol?

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lemmy.world

The English language is capable of endless nuance. If you can't convey tone, just get better at writing.

You also shouldn't get in the habit of undercutting everything you say. It's ok to say something and mean it. If you don't take yourself seriously, other people won't take you seriously.

Besides, when you are joking, it's funnier when you don't wink. Winking is for suckers.

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lemmy.world

I would never tell them what to do, I just respond by ending every sentence "ha ha, HA haha hooo", copy and paste after every sentence.

For some reason they find it annoying, who knows why? I am confused

p.s. ha ha, HA haha hooo

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Imagine not understanding why being an obnoxious, pedantic twit who mocks others for inconsequential things would annoy people, lol.

Easiest block ever.

Lol.

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