'End of MAGA': Trump's attack on Iran sets off revolt among angry supporters
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So... not the paedophilia or the rampant curruption?
He built his name on those two things. Literally. That's been his brand since the 1980's: shady businesses, inflated real estate deals, and beauty contests. His base voted him in because they liked what they saw and wanted more of it nationwide.
No, that's not how anything works....
"The straw that broke the camels back" isn't just one heavy ass piece of straw.
It's one thing, in addition to every single thing that came before it.
So its this and the pedophilla and rampant corruption, and everything else.
But... like... literally everyone can agree that pedoshit should always break the camel's back. Like it's literally universal across pretty much every demographic that nobody should protect a pedo and even the worst serial killing criminals in prison are still viewed more favorablly than pedos.
I'm sure they persuade themselves that this is only a conspiracy against dear leader. they're idiots
That's pretty much exactly what it is. They're still buying whatever that Qanon "trump is working with secret agents embedded in the Deep state to dismantle the Clinton pedo ring" nonsense.
I'd assume the pedophilia and corruption were already making a decent amount of people angry, judging by the recent election results. War against Iran was just the tipping point, without the preceding issues I'd doubt it'd have sparked much of a revolt.
This is not me arguing that any of these are ok btw, in an ideal world any of these things would lead to the end of the administration.
I'd bet a lot of money if there was an election right now they'd still vote Republican.
No, that part reminds them too much of Pastor John, or whatever the guy is they go to on Sunday
That 30% of Americans are never going to not support him
Yep, that's the base cult right there. They will always support him. He could rape their own children and they would still support him
He could do it in front of them while the child ask for help and they would still support him there is no coming back for them
This is how they help the child rape victims
No he couldn't. Maybe 20 years ago.
Hey, thats not fair, he could totally give them hand jobs two at a time
That’s the middle-out optimisation. 4 at a time, tip-to-tip.
In the age of AI I can't believe he's not deep throating two massive cocks
We need to stop worrying about those who support him no matter what. 30% of Germans supported Hitler right up to the day he shot himself. You can't reach some people. Stop wasting effort on them.
The level of lawlessness Trump has wrought should disqualify his voters from having that privilege ever again.
I will die on that hill.
I wish we could make that happen.
They actually supported him after he died, well into the 70s and 80s.
It was a looot more than 30%
Yep. I'll be surprised if his numbers fall through the Sarah Palin Floor. Or the Nixon Resignation Floor.
Yeah, good news more than 30% won't vote so he is Presidente da vida.
Have they been “ended” again? Wow, this must be the 100th time I’ve read that; certainly true this time, though! Thanks, Rawstory!
This is the revolt that’s gonna do it! We promise!
I’ll wait until Election Day (assuming we’re allowed to have those anymore) to see.
I wouldn't be so quick to judge, Trump's approval might temporarily drop by a whole percent!
Truly a source for wildly sensationalized headlines
Remember when the Republican party was "eating itself" and a Democrat victory was in the bag before the 2024 election?
Yeah they'll be fine and come back more fascist than ever
They rallied to a fucking insurrectionists pedophile. Never underestimate the depravity of the Republican voter.
GO OUT AND VOTE! VOTE BY MAIL IF YOU CAN TO REDUCE LINES.
No. Vote in person. They are rigging vote by mail as we speak.
And don't let anyone intimidate you into not voting.
Ugh, we're about to have to be up in arms alongside some real shit holes.
Grifter's gotta grift. But it's a good windsock for gauging where the popular winds are blowing. Dems are in the best position to capitalize on the shift, but I'm sure they'll find new and innovative strategies to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory again, since they're owned by capital.
Chuck Schumer is certainly going to be on the wrong side of this war.
God dammit. Devastating - it is in fact a good point. Surely he used ChatGPT to write this.
Don't ruin my Sunday, now I need another shower.
Give them a week. They'll fall in line.
Well, what do you expect them to do? Internally reflect and admit they were wrong?
Promise them that their overdue riches are coming soon. MAGA doesn’t hate war, they hate the idea that someone other than them is getting financial help
Yeah go check the r/conservative cesspool and tell me that again. Click bait bullshit
Most are bots.
Whether it's true or not, having some of them believe it might encourage some of the cowards on the fence to leave the cult, and if it does i say thats a win.
Definitely a frustratingly sensationalized headline though, total clickbait.
How about, anyone leaving that cult at this point is not a coward? Some of these people just fell for the lies and are rather stupid and scared. Not saying we should give them a full pass, but we need to celebrate them waking up.
Cowardice is defined as ignoble fear in the face of danger or pain. If they are falling for lies because they are stupid or scared, that is them being controlled by fear, which is cowardly.
If you let someone manipulate you using fear, I consider you a coward. Fantastic if someone wakes up, then maybe we can re-evaluate their coward status, but until then I consider them cowards, personally.
That subreddit is astroturfed like nobody's business and their censorship makes North Korea look a bastion of free expression. I bet if you went into the comments right when it was posted you'd have seen some halfway reasonable takes, but those comments have all been deleted and their authors banned.
I'll believe it when I see it
His approval could SLIDE to 39 percent, which will SLAM him.
I think the solid base is down to around 37% now. Still solidly behind the child rapist.
That’s the exact same percentage that still support the terrorist state of Israel
That's roughly the amount of people who have type O blood, the most common blood type
I can't wait for another poll to shockingly show he's slid to his lowest approval of 39% - again.
I swear for the past half year I've heard every news agency post an article every other week about his support "slipping to 39%"
Those polls are bullshit. I fully believe his actual support of the US populace is probably 25% TOP but the mass media is bought and polls are generally bullshit.
They show a trend but they aren't nearly as accurate as people think they are
Its been "the end of maga" 6 or so times. It's not
Well what are they gonna do about it? The mid term aren't until November.
MAGA, or ex-maga don't have enough critical mass for stree protests. And even if they did Trump will shrug it off. Just like how he has die the no kings and anti ice protests.
The only way to stop Trump is a general strike along the lines of the huge movements that succeeded in removing, in some cases their viciously murderous, evil, regimes, such as Euro Maidan (Ukraine) 2014, Romanian Revolution 1989, East German Revolution 1989 and the Philippine People Power Revolution 1986 to name but a few.
It is possible.
But you have to be planning and working out your roles. Not everyone will be jammed up against regime thugs batons and shields on the front line. Others will be legal aid, cooking food, supporting families of those who can't work because their fighting for liberty, democracy and justice.
Start by joining like mindes organisations. Start attending meetings. Get your neighbours, friends and family to dip their toes in.
"No new wars" Maga doesn't seem to care about that
"He'll make the economy better" Maga doesn't seem to care about that
"He'll making housing affordable" Maga doesn't seem to care about that
What do they care about? They keep backtracking on what's important to them, it feels like they don't actually care about anything except hurting people. What's their agenda?
Small people try to feel big by hurting others and blaming them for it.
School bullies, narcissists, abusers, MAGA, authoritarian and dictators. Same song different dance.
They haven't grown up past playground drama.
They will lie all day and say it is X or Y or Z, but you can exhaustively prove each one false and they will move to the next one in and endless list of excuses.
He's not hurting the people he needs to be
You already called it
Bullshit. They'll all bend the knee. It's a cult.
End of MAGA, yeah right...
We've always been at war with Eastasia
Horseshit. Conservatives have been raising their children for a generation to believe dying for Trump's America is a worthy cause.
Raw Story is just like any other rag. They play to their demographics. There is no massive anti-MAGA outcry on X or any of the socials.
Don't let this bullshit lure you into a false sense of security. Conservatives are as committed as ever. The majority of them think the post-911 wars were justified, and that they were heroes for fighting in them. They also believe the Jews are the chosen people. They're ready to send their kids to die in Iran. They're nationalists and zionists. It's their entire worldview. It's in their bones.
Don't become complacent.
So, MAGA, let's check the scoreboard:
America First: tell it to Iran, Venezuela, Greenland, Canada, Mexico, Cuba, NATO, et al.
Lower prices on Day One: past Day 400, and prices are higher than ever.
Deport all the illegal immigrant criminals: As well as innocent people, school kids, veterans, old people, sick people, American citizens, even MAGAs.
Lower Crime: Enforced by Paramilitary Death Squads roaming the streets and breaking out into spontaneous firing squads against people that piss them off for any reason.
Release the Epstein Files: Except any that mention Trump, or his friends.
So why are you still on board? Is it the mind-boggling corruption, like openly accepting bribes in front of the entire world?
Or is it the virtuosic incompetence? Like a health system that has caused the first measles epidemic in decades?
I'll bet it's the Pedophilia. The one thing a MAGA can count on is that they'll go the distance to cover pedophilia. THAT you can count on. And that's important because...
ALL MAGAs are Pedophiles.
Where? The maga channel I'm regrettably tapped in to is all "We gotta keep Iran from building nukes that they'll use on Israel". There's a " we shouldn't be Israel's bodyguard " sentiment but they tend to get buried
If Trump and his buddies molesting children on that big beautiful island did not shake his support base, nothing on earth will. Have you read the contents of that file? Whatever you read, I am here to tell that there is more and it is worse.
I'd be willing to bet most of them aren't aware of the truth behind most things
Correction: A few Magats shake their fists angrily and then crawl back under their rocks. The rest are strangely pleased.
I'm hoping for just one of those gun crazy nutjobs to actually get close enough.
They did it with Kirk. The precedent is there. Just aim a little higher.
I wouldn't be surprised. There was a reason no poltical party wanted to engage these voters before Maga. They got the craziest people to vote. It lead to a insurrection of tard burgers. You can't make up the levels of dumb it was.
I hear you frustration. I want to see the legal system tie him up in court for the rest of his and all his accomplices miserable lives. They should never know peace until the day they die for turning on the American people, pitting families against each other, in the name of naked greed.
They gave him the presidency. Why the fuck does he need them anymore?
He'll walk away a billionaire. He gives zero fucks.
Oh, to have the optimism to think he's going to walk away.
He can't buy time and his is going out. He looks like a few months from a heart attack.
I got a 3 day ban on Reddit for saying I'm team blood clot (:
He looks like shit, but somehow evil keeps crawling on. Best example for why I continue to be an atheist, if god existed Trump would have been struck down by lightning a million times already.
Hopefully a new president will emerge without vagina chin folds on the next go around. I have hopes that our princess Diana's n the electoral college will choose the right king next time. Either way we must continue to pay our tribute. Be it in the form of abusive tariffs, abusive taxes, physical or mental abuse or just by being sent to fight a war that had no reason and no purpose. But at least they did wack the leader real quick. We should go for Putin while we're nearby.
Give it a couple days. Every one of them will say they always 100% supported the war. Never thought Trump was in the wrong for even a second. Nope, not me.
Just like they don't care if you're a pedo, as long as you're a Republican. They don't care if you lie to them, as long as you're a Republican. This is no end to MAGA and anybody claiming as much is not reputable.
Please. The "revolt" is just some angry tweets as usual. Nothing will matter. Website needs clicks. Democrats will whiff. Sun rises. Etc
I just wonder if this horrible shit was done to distract from the Epstein files or because of the leverage provided by the Epstein files.
I mean, if Epstein was a Mossad asset and therefore the president of the united states is a Mossad asset, they can really get some dirty work done with somebody else's bombs.
This is a stupid fucking headline.
First of all bullshit. Cults gonna cult. This is how they do.
Second of all - is rawstory unaware they're spewing bullshit?
Third of all - who among us is thinking "oh yeah that's right - MAGA's totally over now" ??
yeah they lose a few former Obama voters. Big whoop.
Yeah right, they live for this shit
Talk is cheap. They'll still vote MAGA over ANY Democrat.
Wake me up when his numbers fall below the Sarah Palin/Nixon Resignation Floor.
There are a certain set of people that support Republicans no matter what they do.
Even if Republicans completely reverse themselves on things like elective wars (Pedonald attacking and/or threatening to attack several countries), taxes (tariffs for everyone!), and deficits (see Cheney's comments on deficits).
I don't give a shit about the end of MAGA, I want to see the rise of the left Tea Party. There far more left / sane people than those fascist turds. They just organize way better.
There was thar, in 2016 and 2020. The party defeated it.
It would be amazing if his own feral magats throw his stupid ass into a wood chipper. I’d watch that video on loop for days
I knew he'd do this shit on a Saturday. I can't prove it because I don't recall saying it out loud or typing it, but for weeks I've been thinking when Trump invades Greenland or Canada or Iran or somewhere, it's gonna be Saturday
Doubtful. MAGA was always revolting, in all senses of the word.
Again. Didn't epsein destroy them. Also its republicans. Maga is modern republicans, so is qanon, so was the tea party. They line up around any nutters that seem to drive elections. This is their brand there is not going back only shutding down and putting up a new shingle if they can find enough actual values to build something from the ground up and don't just immediately betray any values. You have to build some capital before you start leveraging it.
X to doubt
Yeah right. Republicans are dumb sheep. They'll all fall in like the lapdogs they are. Despicable traitors.
At this point I don't think they're going to turn ON him. But all they need to do is turn away from him. Then it's every Republican for themselves, and they'll scapegoat him (hopefully).
Finally they have woken up.
Too bad for them, then.