British Woman shot by dad in Texas after 'arguing about Donald Trump'
A British woman who was shot dead by her father while visiting his home in Texas had argued with him about US President Donald Trump earlier that day, an inquest has heard.
Lucy Harrison, from Warrington in Cheshire, was shot in the chest on 10 January 2025 in Prosper, near Dallas.
Police in the town investigated the 23-year-old's death as possible manslaughter but no criminal case was brought against Kris Harrison after a grand jury in Collin County declined to indict him.
An inquest into Lucy Harrison's death opened earlier at Cheshire Coroner's Court, where her boyfriend Sam Littler described the "big argument" about Trump, who was preparing to be inaugurated for his second term of office.
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Couldn't even get a grand jury indictment. No doubt the local yokels closed ranks. Made up some nonsense about it being an accident.
Reminder that the people who lynched Ahmaud Arbery almost got away with it until they were stupid enough to release the footage of the murder, thinking it would exonerate them and people would call them heroes. Over two months with no arrests.
Well to be fair after WW2 we executed all the rank and file Nazis but most of the leadership we brought over here to help us organize our society I'm pretty sure.
Did you miss the part of the article with his answer to "what if I was one of the women trump raped"?
I did, it's paywalled.
More likely the prosecutor just didn't show any evidence. The prosecutor has so much influence over whether there is or isn't an indictment.
It's perfectly on brand for the USA, really. This uppity woman didn't listen to the man of the house, so he had to wave his gun around to remind her of her place. He was so distraught at his authority being questioned that his gun accidentally went off while it was pointed at his daughter. The guy feels bad, so it's OK. Plus, as he said himself,
His true family was the magats he found along the way. How heart-warming.
I'm sure he'll meet all sorts of new friends from the inevitable GoFundMe
In order for it to be manslaughter you'd have to consider the victim a person.
The article gets way worse, "Littler said on the morning of 10 January his partner had asked her father during the Trump row:
"How would you feel if I was the girl in that situation and I'd been sexually assaulted?"
Kris Harrison had replied that he had two other daughters who lived with him so it would not upset him that much. "
Holy fucking shit.
Trump supporters are not good people
goodrealI personally know at least 10 people that are this person. I've been threatened with violence for voicing my opposition to Trump. Supposed Christians threatening violence because I don't like their pedophile conman. They're a bunch of little bitches.
Revelation 13:16.
You'd think Christians would be more aware of walking around with a symbol on their forehead (maga hats), but amazingly it takes an athiest who actually knows the bible to point it out, and booooooooy do they fuckin hate hearing it.
I'd be embarrassed to use their own scripture against them, because it would feel like I was admitting to believing it when I don't.
Its just a book, dude.
Literally no different than using quotes from lord of the rings to highlight the unsettling similarities between Saurons evil and GenAI.
Yeah that's also pretty silly
I find that self-declared christians often make the worst Christians.
Construction is infested with Trump supporters. They’re always entitled imbeciles but there’s a lot of them
Oh, they are very very real.
This is how I know he murdered his own daughter.
Yeah I was about to post the same shit. That is disgusting that is his fuckin daughter for fuck sake.
Texas should be nuked without question. That state is not worth saving after they said they wouldn't indicate him.
Fuckin magats are willing to let their children get raped for the pedo god king trump.
I've been thinking about that for a few minutes now. Does it mean he considers them property which loose value by being raped?
That reply just doesn't make sense to me.
I chose to be homeless at 19 because I was terrified my stepdad would find out I'd been raped and kill me for not being a virgin any more.
I dont think its a well reasoned response.
I do not like Glocks. Quite simply, I prefer pistols with a manual safety which Glocks do not have. That said, a Glock WILL NOT FIRE unless your finger is on the trigger. A Glock's safety mechanism is on the trigger itself.
If you are going to own a firearm, GO TO TRAINING. Trigger discipline should be muscle memory so that even piss drunk you keep your finger off the goddamn trigger until youbare ready to pull. If the guy was trained in firearm use, then he 100% murdered his daughter on purpose.
MAGA is a cult and its members are mentally ill.
"Don't aim a gun at anything you don't want to destroy"
"Keep your booger hook off the bang lever"
Yeah, if you are going to checks notes point your gun at your daughter, at least have some goddamn checks notes trigger discipline!
I"m giving that piece of shit A LOT of leeway by assuming he wasn't purposefully pointing the gun at her and rather just holding it to show. (That's cutting about ten miles of slack.) If that's what he was doing (doubtful) then he should not have had his finger on the trigger.
My gut tells me that his MAGA poisoned brain, having the impulse control impaired by alcohol, pointed the gun at her and his finger twitched, because deep down he wanted to "kill the b!t¢h" that dared insult his god emperor. The bang instantly sobered him up and broke his hateful trance. That's when he started cryring for
mommyhis wife.I have had multiple daughters. Most have pissed me off beyond belief. I've went out shooting with them as well. No way in hell I'm pointing a gun at anyone unless I plan to shoot that person. That's basic gun knowledge and safety.
You also don't have a MAGA rotted hatebrain. These guys (MAGA zealots) are mentally ill.
Nah he's a magat POS. They fantasize about murdering libs and anyone else who disagrees with maga even slightly. He 100% shot her on purpose and then lied to make it sound like an accident. That's how far gone these psychos are.
Yeah, I doubt this. AT MOST, this person will just stop talking about politics, and if we're lucky, never vote again.
But chances are he's still a full-throated Republican
This is a direct reference to the events as per the article. I'd normally recommend reading the article but in this case I can guarantee that doing so will only decrease your quality of life.
Holy fucking shit you're not kidding this was a clear cut honor killing and he fucking got away with it
Yeah, there is perhaps no pistol more known for unequivocally not firing unless the trigger is fully pressed from the center. There are in fact three different independent safeties in a glock. Man murdered his daughter, I do not accept complete ignorance of firearm use as a defense for someone who owns a gun and chose to pull out a loaded weapon and point it at someone.
I don't disagree, I just wanted to point out that "the gun just went off" is absolute bullshit with a Glock. The rest is just me being way too generous. Best case scenario (for him), because it was a Glock, he should have been charged with involuntary or negligent manslaughter. If they charge parents for leaving a gun unlocked which leads to a child's death, then why the hell would they nit charge that piece of shit.
I read the rest of the article, I regret it. Earlier that day his daughter had asked him how he would feel if one of the women Trump sexually assaulted had been her and he responded he had two other daughters who lived with him so he wouldn't be all that bothered. What a piece of shit. Oh also he'd relapsed and had a
bottlebox of wine. Checks out.Thank you. I was too lazy to add it myself.
Am I understanding this correctly, that the Glock safety is on the trigger itself? That seems really fucked up. Other than meeting a technicality, it useless, no?
It means the only way for it to fire is to fully pull the trigger it can’t “go off for no reason”
The gun also had to be loaded and cocked…
Unless it's whatever Sig was that had a recall. And the firing mechanism could still slip from certain impacts. But those don't have anything to do with the safety; an additional safety isn't going to fix those.
If a person is trained to use a firearm then both styles are effective, but yes a glock is more dangerous around idiots because they think it won't fire and they have no trigger discipline.
Can anybody buy a gun like this? I appreciate laws will vary between states. If so shouldn't there be safety measure to idiot proof killing devices?
In america yes. Its not legal to conceal and carry without a permit but buying one isn't much trouble. We have decided guns are on the honor system.
Some states, such as mine, have done away with concealed carry permits even. I believe they call it "constitutional carry".
Damn, thats patriotic.
I did last week, and walked out with it that day. I had 6 hours of instruction very focused on safety and discipline. Most I tried had safeties like this, not at all just glocks.
And I've seen multiple threads online insisting people should keep their gun loaded and chambered at home, even though they'll likely never need it for defense, and it takes under 2 seconds to slap in a mag and cock it. And if the gun were pre-cocked, it would just chamber automatically anyway.
Yes. Yeah. Basically, yes.
I practice trigger discipline with fucking nerf blasters
I practice trigger discipline with my power tools
If I so much as want to change the bit on my drill I switch it off and disconnect the power source before getting my fingers anywhere near the service end of it. Is that excessive? Probably but I certainly think the time expense is worth taking extra steps to avoid an ER visit
So, I just bought a handgun, after 6 hours of range instruction time, and we tried a bunch of makes. Only one of them had a regular non-trigger safety.
Dude admitted he was an alcoholic who had already had a bottle of wine before the shooting, and they couldn't get a manslaughter charge to at least go to trial? Being drunk and accidentally killing someone is manslaughter.
This country is so fucked up.
In religiously paternalistic Texas, killing one’s own children is a God-given biblical right.
Unless they’re unborn! There is nothing more sacred than an unborn baby. Born babies can get discarded, though.
She was slandering Dorito Jesus, if anything he's a hero.
I have heard it said that the prosecution has enormous power over what grand juries get to hear, to such an extent that grand jury results are mostly just a way of formalizing what the prosecutor has already decided. If the state wants an indictment, the state pretty much always gets one.
Served on grand jury, can confirm. In general they will lay it out how they want. You clearly can get their bias in wanting to pursue and not pursue cases.
That and the general "hive mind" lead to very predictable outcomes, especially when you can get early dismissal once you've cleared your docket.
Man shoots daughter dead and everyone's just okay with it because she didn't like Trump?! The fuck is going on down there? How have you existed as a country this long?!
It's like South Asian "honor" murders where women are killed for even the most trivial matters.
Literally, these are honor killings. Full stop. Take a look at the gender makeup of these anti-ICE protests and then take a look at the ICE goons.
It's patriarchy, and people fighting patriarchy. It's always been about white guys feeling terrified of their power eroding, and since white patriarchy has no coherent acceptable response other than rage, their first resort is everyone else's last resort.
Fascism is about man always sitting at the head of the table and wearing the pants.
That's a good point. Pointless and senseless but makes sense to some in some convoluted way to justify it. Just sad that it is acceptable. And what honour they aim for over such a shitty example of humanity?!
WHAT THE FUCK! THE GRANDJURY REFUSE TO INDICT? This total bullshit hang that motherfucking dad from a fucking tree.
After they have witnesses of him telling her he didn't care if she got raped!
Texas, I swear to God. I am from there, all of my family is there. My daughters adore their cousins and beg to move there. Absolutely not.
My MAGA Dad raised his hand like he was going to hit me at Christmas during a political discussion. I was shocked. He is old and feeble, so I told him I would hit him back.
Texas is a shithole and they only people who don't realize it have lived there their entire lives.
I'm on the fence on this one. How old are they?
On the visit home over Christmas, the idea crossed my mind of retiring there, and I got fairly homesick. I miss the arid, rugged climate. I hate the cold. Being close to family would be nice, and Texas could use more hard-headed, angry liberals. But it's too dangerous until my uterus is old and broken down and while I'm responsible for other people with functional or soon-to-be-functional uterii. Texas also has water shortage on the near-term horizon from shitty resource management, so it's best to wait and see where that goes.
But my point is, everyone wants to go home to die, right?
Texas. Not even once.
Grand jury: We protect one of our own.
It's clear the DA has a motive to mislead them.
This is next level disturbing.
This is Texas
A jury of peers
A jury of many beers
They were all cleaning their guns at the time.
And risk breaking a branch? There's a perfectly good gun right there!
PSA: Avoid Texas, it's never safe. It's like Florida.
San Antonio is a shit-hole full of rich white people who fucking LOVE jebus
Edit: Oh and the "river" is a fucking concrete drainage ditch. Literally pathetic.
As someone who LIVES in San Antonio, bullshit. San Antonio is an awesome city.
It also houses one of the chapters for the Democratic Socialists of America and is exceptionally purple in political spectrum.
the problem is that we can't avoid state-level politics while visiting the city of san antonio.
I mean if something goes wrong and you find yourself in court then you are still at the mercy of the politics of the state of Texas.
Relatable... I had an apartment in Studio City right on the LA River. It wasn't even the cool part of the river you see in movies. I used to jokingly call it my waterfront property.
There's also Houston, the largest city in the state. Houston is alright, mostly.
Houston's all right except for the sprawl and the terrible climate, that is. Well, that and a homicide rate 75% higher than that in Los Angeles.
I know two very excellent people from Texas. They both had the sense to move abroad. I keep ripping on them because "You forgot about the Alamo, didn't you?!"
The alamo was a US led insurrection in Mexican territory because the rich US landowners there wanted slavery to continue, and for manifest destiony (aka zionist-style land theft). Its yet another stain on US history that we could only hope would ever be forgotten.
Texas has a lot more guns than Florida, but yes both are awful
As a Liberal Texan, there are a lot of great, progressive places in Texas. Generalizing a whole fucking state is pretty shitty. You realize how many millions of people live here?
Yes, our governor sucks ass. The state is jerrymandered into Republican control. However, as someone who has travelled and lived in over two dozen states in the US, I can tell you I've seen some of the biggest Trumpers in rural "blue states" like California.
Don't blanket assume everyone is a gun toting, Trump voting Republican just because a state OVERALL votes a certain way.
People can be great, towns and cities can be nice, but corruption from leadership can ruin it for everyone. True for a state, the same for a country.
Agreed, but much like all Americans aren't assholes because of the Federal government being Trump's cronies, generalizing the entire state of Texas as "a shithole" is what I find offensive.
then direct your ire at all the Americans ruining your reputation.
It doesn't even matter what people on the Internet think of you. Wake up from your defensiveness. America is already at the point now where we are going to have to throw the baby out with the bathwater. Texas has long been a lost cause.
Well tough shit
Sounds like something Trump would say. I never called it a shithole, I just said it's not safe there.
Fuck this opinion. Every last member of my family is in Texas. From Austin to Ft. Worth. All the women are liberal and all the men are gun toting MAGAs. Maybe one brother is just a conspiracy-minded libertarian, but the rest are MAGAs. I still love them and visit them, but I don't want them having any legal jurisdiction over me or my kids.
Objectively speaking, you have to admit that if you are from any other states and visit Texas you would more likely be harassed by law enforcement or be a target for being an outsider. Does that mean that the citizens are all a reflection of that? Not really, but it would be very hard to convince a tourist (international or otherwise) to visit a state that has a backwards viewpoint that bleeds into their justice system.
Case in point, this women gets smoked and no charges are being pressed.
it’s a shame cause the food is sinfully out in the lone star state
Unless you're one of the billionaires fleeing the billionaire tax in California, in which case yes go to Texas, it's way safer then the crime ridden California cities. You don't even need to bring your body guards.
In fact, just broadcast to the world where you're going everyday. Walk amongst the citizenry, it's safe!
/s I hope
Accidentally flicked the safety off.Apparently it was a Glock...
Color me suspicious but even if all that was just a series of unlucky coincidences, that man should be kept away from all guns for the rest of his life. At the very minimum.
Accidentally robbed a bank
Accidentally killed a few politicians
Accidentally speared pedophile cultists
Jesus fucking Christ he fucking executed her
So they’re doing honor killings now?
Y'all Qaeda and the most excellent Yee-hawd.
What the article says is they disagreed on guns and argued about Trump. They went into his room to look at his 9mm glock and according to him the gun went of and he didn't realize his finger was on the trigger. He relapsed to alcohol and was drunk at the time.
He said: "As I lifted the gun to show her I suddenly heard a loud bang. I did not understand what had happened. Lucy immediately fell."
Harrison said he could not recall whether his finger was on the trigger.
His finger was absolutely on the trigger, and he pulled it. Glocks don't just go off. They're pretty well engineered.
On the trigger or not, that's exactly why you never "show" someone a loaded gun. Unless we are at a range and we've already done all the safety training and I feel that you've got a grasp of it, I'm not keeping a loaded gun in my hands around anyone I don't plan on shooting.
It was pure negligence. Plain and simple. And now his daughter is dead. Accident or not, he ignored the rules and someone died from that negligence.
I don't think it was negligence, I think it was murder that he played off as negligence.
He was drunk and had a gun.. How American.
Yeah. A Taurus or a Sig, maybe. Not a Glock. There's a reason they're so popular. They reliably fire when the trigger is pulled and only when the trigger is pulled.
Even if it was a Sig, it was only older model P322s that had that problem. Pistols firing without pulling the trigger isn't nearly as common as people (including, apparently, this jury) believe.
Also the P320 - which was adopted as the new standard-issue handgun for the US military.
The Air Force actually suspended their use for a few months last year after one went off uncommanded and killed an airman. They inspected them and found that over 2% were already in unsafe condition after being adopted just 5 years earlier.
And the civilan version is worse and in the middle of several lawsuits. And this is after they were recalled for not being drop-safe.
Maybe he shouldn't be allowed to own guns, just a thought.
If you accidentally killed somebody with a gun, you probably aren't well regulated enough to be a militia.
Too soon man, too soon
We'll never know the truth.
I shoot pretty often, and handguns are notoriously inaccurate. So I think he may very well have shot her in anger and fabricated this afterwards. Also it she was against guns, why would she follow someone, who is intoxicated, into another room, to look at one‽
This story is fishy as fuck.
Wow sounds like he really won that argument huh
I bet he's telling the truth. Which is all kinds of even sadder than if he had shot her out of rage for a disagreement.
Maybe he is. They should have still brought charges against him.
I don't know the US judicial system works, but Sweden has multiple tiers of criminal offenses for various kinds of violent outcomes.
Murder is premeditated and intentional. Manslaughter is not premeditated, but intentional. Then you have accidental causing of death, that is not premeditated and completely unintentional, which is still a criminal offense. The last tier is for careless drivers or workplace negligience leading to serious accidents, not for actual use of violence.
I think in this case, given that the gun was loaded, safety was off, he aimed it at her, and he more than likely had his finger on the trigger, he would have a really hard time getting away with manslaughter even.
It's wild that it seems Texas prosecutors basically just dropped the case.
Obligatory IANAL, but I think US law is similar. Murder is any premeditated killing of another person. Voluntary manslaughter seems to be spontaneously but intentionally killing another person, and involuntary manslaughter involves criminal negligence that results in someone dying on accident. It seems here they have decided that he was not criminally negligent... Despite the fact that he was drinking, the gun was loaded, he pointed it at her, etc
Texas corruption is just out here showing its ass on the world stage. I would guess some Kool Aid drinking gun nuts got put on the grand jury and empathized with the guy.
Edit: Well, after reading the NY Times article on it, it sounds like the prosecutors office didn't really try to make a case to the grand jury. The girl's mother is quoted as saying: She also said that the grand jury in Texas “seemed to have no option but to conclude” that “no prosecution could be brought, based on the evidence they were presented with.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/11/world/europe/lucy-harrison-shooting-uk-texas-coroner.html?unlocked_article_code=1.MVA.DolI.x1nlgDGUNYkg
IRL Sir Norman Fry testimony. Just not funny.
Sunk-cost fallacy.
Trumpers don't want to admit to themselves or each other that they've been duped, so they just keep digging their hole deeper.
Sort of like the "Russia Russia Russia" people ...
Oh no, sorry, the Russian that lives inside my washing machine just showed me a gif, and now my eyes are like those cartoon spirals of hypnotized people!
Send help!!
He said it was an accident. I think a different article I read on this said he went back to treatment for alcoholism after this. This kinda suggests he was too drunk to remember. The other article noted the dad is not the one that called the ambulance which would more commonly be the case in an accidental shooting. But if he was drunk idk.
Have you ever noticed how the right always says the "left went too far" and somehow manages to push their argument by pointing to a single tweet or headline? Why doesnt that work against them too?
They don’t give a shit about words or truth, they just yell and invent when they don’t get their way until everyone does what they want because they are the smart ones who know better, which is why they need to kill everyone who doesn’t agree with them and say it’s because that’s what we want
Because they don't care about evidence or facts unless it fits into their narrative.
You can point to posts advocating for violence or censorship coming from their ilk and they'll just attribute it back to the other side because "we wouldn't need to if they didn't do it to us first." It's just the abuser justification, "look at what you made me do".
Or they will just outright deny reality, dismissing opposing evidence as conspiracies, exaggerated, or misunderstood. Did Elon really do a Nazi salute? "No, no. He was just sending his heart out to Americans!"
And when there's overwhelming evidence that they can't do mental gymnastics around? They shut down the conversation. They stop talking about it. They ignore it. They bury it. Out of sight, out of mind.
When someone is indoctrinated into that way of thinking and makes their politics a part of their personality, you are not going to beat them at their own game. Their sense of identity is tied to their beliefs and their ego will not let them accept anything that goes against those beliefs. They need to be deprogrammed.
Texas is beyond fucked.
It's a shame our registered Democrats don't actually vote. We outnumber the Republicans by 1.5m.
A truly crazy thing to say, given the systematic voter disenfranchisement the state suffers from.
There was a seven hour long line to vote in one of Houston's bluest districts. This story was further complicated, when the last person to vote in this line was targeted by the state's AG for prosecution.
Another notable case was a woman who cast a provisional ballot while out on parole. She was hit with a five-year prison sentence, which took years to overturn.
Democrats want people in Texas to vote? Maybe Biden's DOJ should have decriminalized Voting While Black within the state, while he had that power.
Where did you get that number from? Texas doesn't have party affiliation on voter registration. Affiliation is automatic when you vote in a primary and expires at the end of the calendar year, and I be surprised if we've ever had bigger turnout for the Democratic primaries during my voting-age life.
https://independentvoterproject.org/voter-stats/tx
Thanks, that's where I was assuming. Like I want to believe, given the population spread throughout the state it seems reasonable to think there should be more left-leaning voters. But take for example this blurb from that site:
But the 2024 primary turnout were 1.8M Republican ballots and 831k Democratic ballots. And that's actually up vs the 725k Democratic primary ballots in 2020 (vs ~1.9M Republic ballots that year)! So that doesn't add up.
We do know that there are otherwise-Democratic voters who vote in the Republican primaries because the districts are gerrymandered such that the primary is basically the real election (looking at me here).
I wish they would give more info than this.
Yeah, I was hoping they'd go into more detail about how they got their numbers in the link at the top of the page, but no such luck.
but they do purposely employ voter supression measures in democratic areas, so the non-affiliation doesnt matter anyways.
The Repubs rejoice about that, as well as making it harder to vote.
in texas DEMOCRATS are heavily voter suppressed, compared to other states.
Texas, the One Star State.
and frozen from time to time. i assume they still have feral hog problems in the state.
"YOU DON'T TALK ABOUT MY FAVORITE PEDOPHILE LIKE THAT!!!"
Boy howdy are my lawyers gonna have a time with anything I post here.
Texas Roid Rage and the idiots believe life is cheap and guns will solve all their problems.
So, Glocks don't have a manual safety. And dipshit amateur gun owners who don't like a heavy trigger pull will periodically modify (or simply buy a modified) version of the weapon with a light trigger. This makes the gun easy to misfire. Add to that, the habit of paranoid owners keeping the gun loaded and chambered, because they think cocking a gun is the difference between life or death.
Very real possibility this was an accident or - at most - involuntary manslaughter on behalf of the father.
As someone who lives in Texas and knows this exact kind of person, the elements laid out in the article make it sound like this guy was a clueless, tactless asshole who thought he could just laugh and hand-wave his way through a political conversation. His daughter is dead because he was treating his gun like a toy, not because he was in some kind of heated argument over Trump.
This is at least manslaughter.
Some folks just don't get that not everyone loves guns or wants to have them around. When we visited my in-laws, my partner's dad tried to insist he bring home his childhood guns. We lived in Massachusetts at the time, a state notorious for not handing gun permits out willy-nilly, and neither of us had a permit. Dad was like "just keep in in your car, it'll be fine". We drove a hatchback, we didn't even have a locking trunk, much less a gun safe.
We did not go home with any guns on that visit.
Partner's next visit, partner flew and his dad tried to give him guns again. Still no gun permit. Yeah, let's fly through Logan airport with a gun in carry-on luggage. Never mind partner was flying to a third state prior to heading back to Massachusetts. Just nuts.
Yeah.
Unironically, yeah. Daughter from a very anti-gun country comes to visit, it's practically required to drag her down to a shooting range and prove that the 2A is fun.
My father-in-law insisted I go shooting with him the moment he found out I was one of those filthy gun-grabber liberals. I managed to survive the experience because he knew how to handle the weapons from years of experience. We had a great time putting a bunch of holes in paper targets, ended the night with a beer, and the whole time I got an earful of "See? See? Guns are great! You should be pro-guns!"
Haven't done it in at least a month or two.
/s
Another sacrifice to the god of guns.
Every time something like this happens, gunbrains will explain why it's the result of stupidity. But that's just copeum because they need to believe that their choices aren't putting their families at risk.
Well both here methinks. The venn diagram of stupid and "gunbrains" involves heavy overlap.
You just want them to give up their guns in case so the government can take over and they'll be left defenseless! /s
I mean, as you can see ... they're definitely using their guns to fight against this current tyrannical government rather than killing family members defending this fascist government from criticism from family members ... 👀
Why I tell family in Texas. I’m not ever stepping foot in the state. Sorry.
The fact that he's an unapologetic MAGA PedoTraitor indicates poor impulse control and decision making skills. He's guilty.
Shithole Texas lives up to its reputation. I'll never step foot in that traitor state again.
Seeing as like two cases of illegal immigrants killing pretty white girls is being constantly used as justification of deporting all illegal immigrants, does this mean we can use this as justification of deporting all MAGA supporters?
"If for some reason you need to murder a woman, lure her to Texas first." - Collin County
Now that she's associated with gun violence, she's up for deportation. At least that's what happens when the non-white crime victims call 911.
She was already deported to the afterlife.
Don't put it past the admin to deport dead people. They already deported a guy who was mostly dead.
I like people who weren't killed
Also none of those pesky mass graves on US soil if you ship out the dead ones
Koolaid, man. Shit's deadly
nothing new. for texhas
It was a negligent discharge unrelated to the argument. This is a shitty article title and dad is a shitty gun owner and shitty dad tbf, but it wasnt political thing. You can really tell in the comments who read the whole article and who just started commenting. Even the summary doesn't cover it right.
Edit:
Rather than keep rewriting, this dude is an asshole, however:
Do you seriously believe that guys story
“He said: "As I lifted the gun to show her I suddenly heard a loud bang. I did not understand what had happened. Lucy immediately fell."
An alcoholic POS who recently relapsed and said he wouldn’t care that his daughter was raped is now drunk and showed her a gun and it just went off for no reason and he couldn’t remember if his finger was on the trigger…
Give me a fucking break… he called her into the room and shot her and made up a story afterwards
You can believe whatever you like, but the title of the article should match the content, and you should read the content before you decide. It sounds like you did read it so good on you.
Based on my read of it, there's definitely enough reasonable doubt that I'm not comfortable saying this guy murdered his daughter based on the content provided. I updated my original comment to say why.
He pointed a loaded, cocked firearm, and pulled the trigger with a minimum of 5 pounds of force
reasonable doubt that it was a premeditated murder I will buy
Reasonable doubt that he committed manslaughter, no chance
And considering his quote saying he wouldn’t be too upset if she was raped because he has two other daughters I think the title is accurate…
This. Sounds like we grew up in similar environments, and I'm with you. Sleazy weasel-fucking bastards that shouldn't have ever evolved lungs will use what breath they've stolen from perfectly deserving cockroaches and millipedes to excuse their 'indiscretions'.
Depends.
Was it a p320?
If it was, then its entirely reasonable and possible.
if not, then 99% chance he shot her for insulting his god emperor.
The P320 thing is extremely overblown.
With some shitty tolerances a given model can be made to discharge when the slide is manipulated in a specific way with significant force. That is proven fact and I'm not disputing it.
But a lot of the claims purport to have had this happen in controlled circumstances with no force or evidence of shitty tolerances, and is just as likely negligent people being stupid and seeing the P320 criticism as a likely skapegoat.
The article literally says it's a Glock 9mm. It also says 2 500 mL boxes whoch he claims to have had 1. That's like 2/3 a bottle, not like a box of franzia. I appreciate being a lifelong shooter (me too), but this was the dudes first gun, and he's a British immigrant as an adult. All of it taken together, yeah seems like reasonable doubt to me.
You could find the details by reading the whole article.
Get a better ad blocker, I don't pay for BBC and I can see the whole thing. Also don't be a twat, there's no need for it.
It was cold-blooded murder. The article is factual.
Then you apparently didn't read it.
Pretty sure I did. An alcoholic man and a young woman enter an enclosed space. The man is a self-avowed pro-rape psychopath who confesses to shooting the young woman for no reason.
Whether it was an accident is dubious and irrelevant. She’s dead, he had a motive and no remorse.
Case closed.
Or can we kill whoever we want and claim it was an accident? Ridiculous.
Different people have different tolerances. Personally, I can be completely knocked out by that much wine if I don't pace myself
Let's read the article
Literally right before they leave he physically leads her to the bedroom and shoots her. Reeks of honor killing
You can think whatever you like. It doesn't seem cut and dry, even by known and overwhelming prevalence of Texas honor killings and alcoholics who are overwhelmed by 2 glasses of wine.
Indistinguishable facts from just an inexperienced idiot gun owner.
Dude what
Low quality bait
Do not argue about politics with the people you are close. It is hard to change their mind, and conflicts happen. Argue with the people that you dont care.
This is how you get fascist into power. People are too scared to convince their family and friends to do the right thing and vote against extremism. You'd rather go out and harass strangers instead of convince the people who are present in your life.
If they are eager to hear you, you can obviously talk to them, but when it becomes a fight, it will just be a waste of time.
...or be prepared to get shot...?
You picked the worst possible place for this kind of advice, mate!
You are right dude, but it is hard to give that advice randomly. This topic is a little bit related. And I got into physical conflict with my mom because of the same reason.
So, this is a big conflict, but it shows the tip of the iceberg
Let's flip this argument on its head: family is potentially the best place for political discussions, as it's one of the few places in life where bonds should be tightest, respect should be mutual and all actors should act in good faith. It should be the safest of spaces and, if intact, should be able to easily withstand disagreements on things outside the family, such as politics. If it doesn't - like in this case, apparently-, doesn't that tell us more about the family in question, and/or the state of political debate in our country?
Nah, they fascis who support a pedophile. They need to know they stupid, wrong, and dangerous.