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asklemmy·Ask Lemmybymesa

To those who are new to this whole fediverse/threadiverse/this thing, how has your experience been?

And to those that have been here for a while, how has your experience changed over the year(s)?

What has worked for you?
What do you see needs improvement in your chosen platform?

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lemmy.zip

It gets better the more familiar you become with it. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone in real life. There are parts that are just way too jarring.

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dubvee.org

I wouldn't recommend it to anyone in real life. There are parts that are just way too jarring.

Ugh, this. And I hate that it's like that.

Like, I used to have my instance open to whoever to sign up. My guiding principle was to have a place that wasn't overrun with [parts that are just way too jarring]. Holy shit was that an impossible goal to do alone so I shuttered it up and now it's just a private instance / testbed for Tesseract.

My friends knew I was active on Reddit, and that was fine. But I wouldn't tell them I spend any amount of time here because what they would see going to almost any random instance will probably definitely not look good on me by association despite that I'm nowhere near that.

So if anyone shares this desire, I am open to un-mothballing my instance, rebranding, and taking on new admins and re-opening to users who also want a place like that.

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AskewLordreply
piefed.social

lemmy.ml is still rife with crazy tankies who go into other instances and harass the crap out of people.

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I recently had an argument here that lasted some weeks.

The poster insisted that "tankie" means "peaceful negotiator". Chef's kiss

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lemmy.zip

Maybe all the ”what the fuck we just made another-moe" communities?

I swear I used to block three every week, until I figured out it was just a few users who didn't know how to use content warning tags, and then I just blocked those users.

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100% same here. used to be every few weeks, now it's every other day. and it does help to block certain accounts, but it's still way more prolific and hard to filter out than it was 6 months ago

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AskewLordreply
piefed.social

furries. linux supremacists. extremist left-wingers of various flavors and identity groups. fetishists of every variety and their weird SFW quasi pornography.

not sure how you aren't seeing any of that. i see it on a daily basis and to not see it i have to block dozens of communities. at one point on lemmy i had something like 60 communities blocked and 100s of users.

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AskewLordreply
piefed.social

nothing wrong with them posting and doing their thing, but in fediverse that stuff hits general feeds and going to be incredibly alienating to a non-fetishist userbase. if the fediverse wants to grow it needs to keep controversial content away from the front page.

personally i know furries and I don't really care, but I'm a weirdo. Yet I still don't really want weird furry shit that I don't care about constantly showing up in my feed.

Average people are FREAKED OUT by furries, even pro-queer progressives: https://slate.com/advice/2026/02/parent-advice-son-hobby-community-furry.html

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lemmy.world

Oh well yeah I mean furry content isn’t the same as furry porn. I immediately blocked the nsfw instances from my feed. Idk why that isn’t done by default

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i think some instances do, some don't.

but some content is not porn, but very much like porn, like a lot of the furry meme stuff

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i mean, how many of your IRL friends are furries who use Linux on their home PCs?

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Lmfao he definitely does okay, some that are cool enough to know he's active on reddit and nobody who's cool enough to know about the lemmy

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I wouldn't recommend it to anyone irl either, mostly because the community is so small that they'd inevitably find one of my posts haha

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I’ve been on the Fediverse since mid-2023, and I’m sticking around!

I bailed on Reddit, FB, and IG, and I’m only on Mastodon and Piefed now. I find that not being on algorithm-driven social media makes me less angry, and I have a much easier time avoiding getting caught up in a mindless scrolling marathon.

I like the ability to filter out by keywords, it makes for a much more pleasant experience

As far as improvements, my main complaint is that I wish there were more people and that the people who are here comment more. Bigger isn’t necessarily better, but there are a lot of communities that just don’t have enough people posting and commenting to make things feel lively yet.

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I agree with everything you say here. I would say even some kind of consolidation for communities might be needed as a lot are defunct but I don't know if that will work or is possible.

I like the ability to filter out by keywords, it makes for a much more pleasant experience

This is one if the most useful features and I think more people should customise Lemmy/Mastodon to their needs.

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i have been here a similar time and as it's grow it's only gotten worse IMO. a year ago I didn't have to block/ban people calling me names multiple times a day. it happened like a few times a week. my experience is more and more frustrating and the signal to noise ratio is far worse than it was last year or in 2024.

i still see some really great comments and really interesting things, but less and less of it. and i see a lot of the content I enjoy being banned by mods and the people posting it getting harassed by other users because it doesn't fit it offends them for not being an incredibly crude and simplistic take.

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I've only been on the fediverse for a total of like 10 minutes, but it seems so far like a perfectly viable alternative to big tech's data collection schemes disguised as websites.

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piefed.social

I'm not new as such. I joined up on kbin initially and tried to establish my communities on there, but kbin kinda collapsed. Then I gave up for a while.

When I came back, I moved to lemm.ee and set up television and obscuremusic and got them going (the former especially) and then unfortunately lemm.ee shut down and then I moved to Piefed and rebuilt it all over again.

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feddit.org

I’m new here and it’s quite a relaxed experience. I think there are more friendly and reflected people. It’s like people here are able to criticise properly and take criticism and also encourage and praise a little. I thought this was lost since early internet. But also very political / activist. I feel like in a bubble of people who want to change things for the sake of people and not capital. As much as I like it we’re not enough. I don’t care there are not many comments. Less comments, less fomo.

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I think there are some people here like that, and they are great.

But there are fewer and fewer of them as they get drowned out by the angry miserable people who are only here to harass and grief others who they disagree with. Huge uptick in that type of behavior the past few months, as the politics in the USA has gotten a lot of reddit people banned there and they came here. I have been called more names in the past three months on lemmy that I ever got in the previous 2-3 years I have been using fediverse

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lemmy.world

I gave Lemmy a dedicated year. A few notes:

Very few people click through.

Lots of rage bait.

Communities split over instances make it pretty hard to know where to post things, what with defederation and such.

I didn't miss much "news"; lemmy was functional for reporting what people were talking about.

No notification of moderation actions taken against you is a choice.

Those who post small websites that do cool things: thank you! I did discover several other cool places and tools.

I found that about 1/10 of the top lemmy posts (after filtering out jokes and sports) are links to AI slop that nobody bothered to check, comments just take the headline as real if they affirm. Pointing this out in the comments did not reduce engagement or drop the posts.

Cutting it out of my routine, at last for awhile.

One thing I really hoped for from the social Internet was access to people and data that could correct me/fill in gaps. But lemmy doesn't do this, as people see what is upvoted and upvotes are used for affirmations to the reader.

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Skavaureply
piefed.social

I found that about 1/10 of the top lemmy posts (after filtering out jokes and sports) are links to AI slop that nobody bothered to check, comments just take the headline as real if they affirm. Pointing this out in the comments did not reduce engagement or drop the posts.

Can I see where/how you found this out?

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Artisianreply
lemmy.world

The ratio is a vibe, and I kinda regret posting a precise one. The case I checked carefully is this one: everything this guy posts

which I noted in November, and blocked very shortly thereafter. I vaguely recall finding a handful more examples of 'too good to be true' headlines, which were in fact not true, but I did not save links.

What made me sad is that even bereft of the algorithm and bad incentives in system, if the headline is 'directionally correct' still seems like the most important thing. Very interested in a social media where correct is ranked over good feels.

(and then there's the regular examples like this, which are not slop but are heavily disputed/recontextualized by the top comment. Correction highly upvoted, yet the OP itself is still doing well))

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WhyJiffiereply
sh.itjust.works

I was wondering why do I only see a single post and no comments for that user, but it looks they were banned on my instance.

since I came from reddit in the first wave, I have read others observations multiple times that lemmy.world has bad moderation, in several ways, and not only because they don't have the capacity for their large server but some other reasons.
you said you had enough for now, but if you come back later, try an account on my instance, slrpnk.net or some others like these that are smaller but not too small. maybe you would like it more. I don't say lemmy.world was a bad choice, I think still better than reddit in recent years, but you get the idea.
but that this user you linked has been banned for almost 2 years by now on my instance makes it look like that it's indeed moderated better.

instances have a lot of moderation power, to make the experience with them better or worse, by choosing which users or sometimes complete instances to ban, so that's a reason other instances could feel different

(and then there's the regular examples like this, which are not slop but are heavily disputed/recontextualized by the top comment. Correction highly upvoted, yet the OP itself is still doing well))

what was the post? I can't load it now, maybe it was deleted.

honestly the thing I hate the most about lemmy is that deleted posts just give an error that's more generic than anything microsoft windows could show, and that deleted posts make all the comments inaccessible too.

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Claiming some old public figure was a newly discovered pedo, and including a quote of them saying terrible things.

Except the quote was 5 years old, not from the Epstein files, the figure had apologized and been publicly forgiven by the victim, and the files revealed nothing new.

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nord.pub

As someone who has been exploring the Fediverse for about 2 weeks, it's been an overall good experience. I've been trying to use it instead of Reddit as much as possible, but it's also apparent that there's a lot less content.

I hope that the verse will continue to grow and that it will solve the content problem.

Otherwise the clients feel like a breath of fresh air and less enshittified than Reddit..

edit: Also the first comment talking about experiences that are just too jarring. I haven’t encountered anything like that but maybe I am just a sweet summer child.

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squirrelreply
piefed.kobel.fyi

Welcome! I've seen you started two nord instances already. More instances are always a good thing. But I wonder, why did you start two very similar instances?

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nord.pub

The first one was my an experimental instance and I will shut it down soon. Initially I planned to migrate the database to new hosting but I also regretted using a domain that was essentially a reference to reddit (.red). So I decided to start clean on another domain while it was only me who used it for a limited time.

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I don’t feel good about being on mainstream social media any more. Any time I spend on Reddit or YouTube is minimal and with a sense of distrust.

I’ve been on lemmy for a few months now and it’s grown since I joined and grows more every day as people hear about it.

Never looking back.

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What pine-person meant was:

Welcome! Many of us here are capable of greeting new peers without going on a pedantic tangient.

So anyway.

Welcome!

It does feel much better to participate here. Particularly after blocking a few specific users.

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You do realize Reddit always was and has been a forum right? Understanding the difference between social media and forums is an “early use”learning moment.

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Personally, I came here because Reddit mods play king when they're less than a pauper. It is also full of pedos and rapists. Simple questions when people actually need to know are met with mockery and ridicule.

There is less to see here but the vibe is less fucky and I'm staying.

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feddit.uk

For me, the biggest downside is there just isn't the same amount of content/engagement as reddit. Also, it's even more of a left wing echo chamber than reddit (and I say this as someone left of centre).

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I've been here for a little while now and I still find myself using Reddit to fill the gaps. But hopefully as more and more people join, then we get more content and engagement!

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Yeah I’ve lost faith in this place and I say that as a staunch leftist. It’s an echo chamber so what’s the point, isn’t that just a circlejerk? I wanted to impact change but here you can’t do that you can either agree on everything or be downvoted.

The positive in all this is I spend less than an hour on here a day on average, compared to previously or Reddit where it could be hours.

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I wanted to impact change but here you can’t do that you can either agree on everything or be downvoted.

Shh. Don't tell anyone, but the votes here don't matter much. (At least for now.) When a post gets less than 20 comments, even the lowest voted response gets seen.

That said, I stay on my toes regarding courtesy and accepting correction when I'm wrong, because I think users are quick to block anyone who siesta seems to be arguing in poor faith. (Which is me projecting, because I am so quick to block if someone is talking past others instead of with them.)

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piefed.social

I joined today! I tried to post some images, but could only have one image per post. Then someone was rude, and I wasn't able to downvote him. I keep refreshing the front page, but nothing happens since there's no algorithm, the latest posts just stay there.

I think I'll stick around here in parallel to Reddit. Maybe some day I'll understand how instances and all of that works.

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Sorry you ran into those issues and the rude person.

I think new accounts have some restrictions for the first 3(?) days. My understanding is that this was implemented to try to counter an annoying person who keeps making accounts doing shitty things and then deleting that account and making a new one.

I'm pretty sure there's a way to add multiple images to a post, but I've never done it.

For the new content, you may want to try switching your view to "New" or if it's your first time looking at piefed during the day "Top (x)" [x being how long since you last opened at Piefed]. Those methods usually bring me a bunch of new content.

Hope your experience gets better :)

Edit: It didn't occur to me earlier, but are you on "Subscribed" feed or "All" feed? If you aren't on all, I would suggest switching to that until you have enough subscribed communities.

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gigachadreply
piefed.social

It takes little time until you have subscribed too enough communities so that your home feed feels natural. I use the "Hot" sorting in home, but there are some people who prefer "Scaled", which is hot but favors smaller communities, so that you don't only have memes and shit posts in there.

For the All feed I Dan really recommend "Top of 6 hours". But, yeah, the Threadiverse is not big enough to spend here hours a day, I usually come here twice a day. What I really like is that you have much more user engagement, where on Reddit your comment usually disappears in the void. Welcome and have fun here, hope you'll stay a little longer ;)

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But, yeah, the Threadiverse is not big enough to spend here hours a day

I spend 3-4 hours on the Threadiverse daily. I'd say it depends on how you use it, how you curated your subscriptions and what you're interested in.

It's definitely possible to spend a lot of time here. But to be fair, I'm bilingual and there's a lot of content in German in addition to English content.

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Then someone was rude, and I wasn't able to downvote him.

Sorry. The votes don't do as much here, anyway, since an interested user can read everything, and many of us sort by new to see what's new.

It's best to just block rude people here. Some are children, many are bots.

The rude people here have no idea that they're often just shouting into the void, having been quickly and quietly blocked.

(Unless they're on Hexbear, where they signed up for fewer rules, so I doubt they're blocking as much.)

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I joined two years ago after the Reddit API thing, full of hope and with bright eyes. I even got a couple of doggos in my PMs, which was nice. It got even better after I finally blocked enough weird porn communities so I stopped bumping into them all the time.

Now I only open Lemmy when I’m having trouble sleeping at night. I browse All/Active, and 90% of what I see are bot news reposts about Trump doing something stupid or scary, or some “are .ml tankies” shitstorms.

Also, I got banned on the Linux community at .ml and I have no idea why or even when it happened, which I actually find kind of funny.

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after I finally blocked enough weird porn communities so I stopped bumping into them all the time.

That does take awhile. We might need to start adding that to our "Welcome" pages.

Welcome user. Due to the federated nature of Lemmy, there's going to be a great deal of weird porn. You can block it. Let's practice now...

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I stayed permanently since middle of last year thanks to piefed.social. it has a great onboarding system for anyone that might not have the gumption or will to self curate raw lemmy, mbin and now piefed outputs. A.k.a being lazy like myself.

Although for my close online friends I'm likely to suggest other piefed based instance just because tobspread the load around.

It feels like reddit back when it was smaller and before the abhorrent new UI and their aggressive algorithm. Well we all know the fediverse is practically without algorithm for good and bad.

So with this view it semi forced me to be more active in the communities I'm in. I mostly comment though rather than making posts but hey any little thing helps.

And besides I just love piefed has topics i.e. multireddit a.k.a a group feed of multiple communites, where I either I can subscribe to premade topics by the instance admin or make my own grouping of topics/communities.

I still to my chagrin dip back to reddit for some communities or topics but it's none of the big ones. Things like psychotic people that has way too many x (bags, retro games handheld devices, headphones, fountain oens, paper notebooks, ereaders, knives, pocket trash, etc) and spending way too much money on them.

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lemmy.world

lemmy is a mess since the same community can be found on a different server. same news have 2 comments, but 62 on the other. this thing is just gonna stay as an underground social media until someone solves this.

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We make a lot of effort to consolidate communities by closing on one instance, and opening it on another.

But sometimes multiple communities for the same topic make sense depending on different local moderation methods and instance rules.

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I am wondering if this is presented better in different UIs. I'm regularly using the Summit Android app and there's at least a button to see cross-posted communities with a comment counter to see if there's more action traction somewhere else. It might be nice if it had some indicator that there's a more active thread than the one I am currently on. I am not sure how other front ends handle it.

Or maybe the issue is dual posted content that isn't cross-linked because it was submitted independently. Not sure of a solution to that that isn't a lot of work.

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This has also been a thing on Reddit since subreddits were introduced so I don't really think it's a major obstacle to user retention compared to the amount (or lack) of quality original content and discourse

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discuss.tchncs.de

In my opinion this platform is great. Most people here are friendly, and smart. Although there are a few exceptions.

I've been here since a year, i think. And its the first contact i made with "the fediverse".

All in all i would say that, apart from power tripping mods, and a few weird users, its a great platform i would definitely recommend.

There's one problem tho, where no android lemmy client, that is compatible with android 7 has avif support

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I've been here since the before times.

It was just weird back then. I had no idea what tankies were and the content just seemed bizarre without any content. I wasn't here daily but kept checking in.

Since the reddit 3rd party app fiasco there's been more content so you could block .ml and have a somewhat satisfying experience.

Piefed is very comparable to lemmy but without the ideological stink and better filters - I thoroughly recommend making the switch.

Mods in the fediverse generally have better intentions than their counterparts on reddit. There have been a number of fumbles but for the most part they're better community stewards, although they do still have the same inherent problem of being fieflords.

The content on the fediverse lags behind reddit. For emerging stories there's way more interesting and up to date content on reddit. I've been using redlib for the last few years so I browse reddit but can't log in. It's a reasonable compromise IMO.

I do have some concerns about the fediverse.

Firstly it's an echo chamber. Quite often if a commenter points out some kind of nuance which doesn't align with the approved opinion they just get piled on. One recent example was the "Trump shat himself" video. Someone said something like "I can't really see it, you can hear a little squeak that could be anything and green lady is just looking around", they got downvoted to oblivion and loads of responses basically saying "how dare you not make fun of the POTUS".

We can't discuss things here. There's like 6 types of posts and we all just make the approved responses to each of them.

Secondly is the dwindling content. Things have deteriorated in the last few years with smaller communities drying up. Everyone's aware of it but no one can or will do anything about it. I don't have the stats but I suspect that 99% of posts are made by about 4 different users.

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About 3 years in, and same as it has been: Discovery's kinda ass if you're not on the big servers. This is both a positive and a negative. In most cases it leads to a lack of content directly, and for services like Lemmy, it leads to communities being more dispersed.

I think giving servers the option to run on a whitelist basis instead of a blacklist for other servers would be good. Federation is cool for a lot of reasons, but if your goal is to be a dick you can do that on a $5/mo server with a few cheap domains. Plus I've wanted to self-host some things that I don't necessarily want federated, like Bookwyrm. I was looking at setting one up as a fanfic sharing thing, and a lot of fanfic authors don't want their stuff on platforms like Goodreads for valid reasons, and I personally feel like having it federated would kinda defeat the purpose there. While I was typing this out I just had an idea that might have fixed that problem, actually, I'll test that later

In the same vain, allowing servers to share their blocklists with other servers would help a lot as well. Yes you can see the block list publicly (though some servers do disable it), but manually copying it is a massive chore, and keeping it updated is even worse.

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lemmy.world

Lemmy really needs to get its shit together in the UI/UX dept for the default look of an instance. Mastodon does this much better.

I can’t stand looking at Lemmy without Voyager.

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lemmy.ca

Lemmy's UI options are fine for me but I do principally use Voyager.

That said were you a Reddit user before Lemmy? Did you use old Reddit or one of the other options?

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I was always an iOS app person. I never liked old Reddit either. Not that I like modern Reddit more. I guess I’m maybe a bit strange like that. I prefer mobile apps over old school websites for browsing text content.

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I can’t stand looking at Lemmy without Voyager.

Yeah, I use eternity and I'm grateful for the theme settings.

Also for godsake why isn't swipe left for the next post a standard thing on these applications.

I tried all of the apps on the google playstore before reaching the last in the list, eternity which had a setting for swiping left for the next post.

That said the lack of advertisements is refreshing as is the horrifically bad "AI" moderating system that is so prevalent on reddit.

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I used an apk called Relay when I was on reddit. Now I use an apk called Thunder on Lemmy.

My experience is almost exactly the same (very similar gui). Only difference is all the missing more niche sub\instances.

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piefed.social

For me I started out on Mastodon, has some fun with individuals I knew. Got into lemmy(world) for about a year. Then decided this piefed thing is fun (and found out about scheduled posts). Now I am here.

I also use Gotosocial, Peertube, and for a little while there bookwyrm, funckwhale, and friendica.

So this whole posting and other people on other platforms commenting/sharing has worked out quite a few places! Its awesome to open up a thread somewhere and see many different accounts on many different servers all talking to one another. I enjoy the interactions here much more than traditional social media.

For improvements, I would still very much like an all in one app. I know its quite a bit far fetched, but its a hassle and a half to keep up with all these accounts. I want either:

  1. One fediverse app to rule them all (join everything fedi related, comment on everything fedi related)
    OR
  2. A way to login to most fedi services I use and use the UI that service has with my login creds.

Its all very far fetched, but it still kinda sucks I have to manage something like 6 different accounts across different software stacks.

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Yeah... I tend to keep my accounts here as a "Do I really need/want the UI, or can I just do it on my main account?" and judge from there. Like. It's fair to me that Friendica, Mastodon, Hubzilla, and the *keys share a protocol. They're all doing the same fundamental thing in a slightly different way: Blogging/microblogging. What the fediverse was built on, largely.

It is weird to me that Lemmy, Bookwyrm, Funkwhale, and to a lesser extent PeerTube are all on that same network. A community-based content aggregator, book reviewer, music hoster, and video hoster on that same network feels weird, and as a result I do have a Lemmy, and a Friendica account. I don't care to have a Mastodon/GTS/*key account on top of it because they function near identically, but these are all fundamentally different pieces of software. You subscribe to one Lemmy community, and that's your entire feed now. Bookwyrm functionally can't use Mastodon posts, and you're not going to Mastodon for that flavor of book review, etc.

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It's been a great experience for me since first joining. The spark is still there and it gets better ever day.

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I don't understand the politics. .ml, hexbear, etc. It's like going to Christmas dinner with your girlfriend's family for the first time.

I don't understand the broader structure, something about Mastodon being part of all this? How everything interconnects, etc.

I'm happy enough here, I read, I make comments, I move on. Just like I did on Reddit. It's a bit empty, so many of the communities are ghost towns. I get that I'm supposed to help with that, but I'm not much of a poster.

Learning recently that apparently anyone can track my upvote/downvote stats was offputting. I'm going to stop upvoting and downvoting now, I don't want people making inferences from that, but I'm fine with what I write, because there I always say what I mean.

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Votes technically being public and viewable however does mitigate voting manipulation and brigading and overall keeps the fediverse more honest and transparent.

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lemmy.world

New-ish (I joined during the reddit hooplah a while back) and my experience has been hit or miss.

I'm on my third instance. First I joined lem.ee and that got shut down. Then I joined midwest.social because I thought hey I'm a Midwest leftist, but that instance has been slow as shit and never loads for me. Tried on multiple lemmy clients with the same result. So now here I am on lemmy.world.

Federation is a good concept but I don't think it will ever catch on on a large scale. It's just too user-unfriendly.

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mesareply
piefed.social

No judgement here but what didnt work for you? Just the slowness? Or some other thing that made it hard to use?

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Nothing ever loaded. Most of the time it would timeout, best case scenario it took a good 30-60 seconds to load a single comments section. Tried on several different clients and it was always the same for that instance.

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Almost as bad as reddit, sometimes for the same reasons, sometimes for completely new and unexpected reasons.

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Way, WAY too many suggestive/sexualized anime image communities to have to block. We all have our fetishes so I'm not begrudging them (although some of them are... unsettling even to my sick mind), but the number of communities in my blocklist made up of such content is simply insane. I wish there were categories standardized across instances/platforms that each community needed to associate itself with so I could block everything matching that in one fell swoop. I'll also never be interested in professional sports-related communities, for example.

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Skavaureply
piefed.social

Serious question, have you considered defaulting to subscribed rather than /all/?

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piefed.social

I prefer using all because I'm routinely coming across new communities I'm interested in, never mind I don't want to live in a bubble.

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gdog05reply
lemmy.world

I'm guessing this is a piefed problem (I'm not a user there) but Lemmy.world has been great for me. My suggestion is using lemmy.world and dabbling in piefed. Piefed will need a bit of time I'm assuming.

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piefed.social

Actually, this is an alt account I only use occasionally. Main account is on lemmings.world, which is where I experience this.

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Sergioreply
piefed.social

fwiw on lemmy in Settings I turn off "Show NSFW Content" and "Show Bot Accounts" and that improves things dramatically.

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I did the NSFW thing, but not bot accounts because some communities use them to copy content from elsewhere (among other reasons). Maybe I'll give it a try anyway, tho - thx!

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I'm a redfugee came with the big exit about a year ago. I post prolificaly, comment sporadically and have a couple of comms. I love it, it feels more like the olden days of the Internet when everything was smaller and you knew people. I sometimes idly scroll Reddit but not even once a week, it's fucking dire and atmosphere is shit. Insta I'm on a few times a day for memes and Reels.

Long live the fediverse!

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I'm pretty new.

Lemmy is great. It doesn't have as many active hyper specific communities as reddit. But there are still plenty of active communities.
There is no attention based algorithm. But the more basic sortings work well enough. I already spend too much time here.

I tried mastodon and Twitter a few years back. I still have absolutely no idea how that whole microblogging thing is supposed to work. Am I just supposed to scream into the void? Same thing with pixelfed.

If people link peertube videos from Lemmy, peertube works well. But the feed needs work. I don't really care about the topic of the video. So the filter by topic isn't that useful. I'd like to filter by language. And then find well researched videos by someone who is enthusiastic about a topic. Any topic. I don't know if there simply aren't that many or if I just can't find them.

I think attention based algorithms could help retain new users. I think there are many who try fediverse platforms and just don't stay long. And if we get more users that stay longer, we get more content, and then niches can form.

To not lose current users, and just because of mental health, it would probably be better if the attention based feeds could be turned off in the settings.

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I've been here for a few weeks now, and I've already grown very fond of it. I love the decentralized approach and how things are managed here. It's the best alternative to today's mainstream social media platforms. Hopefully this project has a long life ahead of it

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I've been on Mastodon for almost a month, I enjoy it. I started in the mastodon.social instance then moved to mstdn.plus. I'm still trying to get a hold of Piefed, but it has been good.

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came last april ish after a reddit purge, was on another instance before it was shutdown forever. there has been less content though. and i dont like the tankie, or anything related to "tankie politics"

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and i dont like the tankie, or anything related to "tankie politics"

Some of us see how long we can go without blocking those servers, to convince ourselves we're open minded.

But then we realize that what really matters is how well an instance does moderation.

I found the process self reflective and enriching.

Overall, I've learned the "block" buttons are a great part of the experience, here.

Even while using "block" liberally, I still encounter some new ideas here.

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Good! I'm a long time lurker, new user.

If you dedicate a day to figuring out how lemmy works then imo it's quite straightforward. I appreciate the expansion of free speech (i got banned from reddit for telling an AFD member to kill himself) and generally most people here seem ok. it's still rather niche but oh well. We can fix that by inviting friends! It's also much more authentic. A lot fewer covert advertisements and more actual people.

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piefed.social

It's the same as reddit. platforms don't make a different. people make a difference

It's all the same people, with the same arrogance and same entitlement and egotism, who take themselves way too seriously and think that justifies their to harass, insult, and report/ban anyone who says stuff they don't like. to the point they will go into other communities to take your commentary out of context to prove how 'evil' you are over a different of opinion or perspective, even if it's a more complex or nuanced take on what they already agree with.

It's just got a lot of extremist weirdos who think their extremists beliefs are some deep profound truth that they must use to browbeat other into submission. A lot of them with superiority complexes that cannot tolerate any admission of limitation or flaw in the glass house from which they throw stones all day.

And the userbase and voting systems generally rewards short, shrill, outlandish, and hyperbolic headlines, commentary, and personalities more than it does thoughtful commentary. Thoughtful commentary with nuance and acknowledging the limits of your understanding... will get you harassed and banned.

It's not an open forum for diverse discussion among a respectful group of people that it wishes it was. It's just tiktok with text.

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lemmy.zip

It's not an open forum for diverse discussion among a respectful group of people that it wishes it was. It's just tiktok with text.

I felt similarly, until I found the "block" feature. Then I discovered that most of what I consider bullshit is brought by a few bad eggs who I have long since blocked. Now I watch people argue uselessly with them, without having to read the stupid/vitrol that spawned the responses.

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AskewLordreply
piefed.social

I'm glad that works for you. TBF i have been using fediverse for over 2.5 years now, and it was not so bad until about half a year ago, when all the sudden like every other comment I make here gets me insulted and harassed by trolls who accuse me of trolling and being a conspiracy theorist for citing well-known information from reputable sources, while meanwhile counter posted their conspiracy left-wing crap as 'truth'. The election of Trump and the murder of Kirk seemed to coincide with a big influx of bad faith actors here who were probably banned from reddit for their pro-violence viewpoints. They also tend to be very stupid people IMO, and constantly harass and accuse others of the things they are doing rather and seem to think their hostility towards others is good and correct but anyone's hostility is wrong and bad.

Not to mention all the weird sentimentalists who just berate and report you if you don't take highly simplified stances on issues that equate to kindergarten level communication. Even suggestion that a social or political issue is complex and nuanced is grounds for getting you banned in a lot of communities now. That wasn't the case a year or two ago.

I've also repeated been lectured that piefed is some miraculous place that is 'different' but I've been on it for several months and it seems no different other than a lot of the users on piefed instances huffing their own farts on how superior they are for being on piefed. Which is precisely the type of immature nonsense that crappy people believe, that their arbitrary choices of social media platforms make them morally superior to anyone who isn't also using those same platforms.

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I've also repeated been lectured that piefed is some miraculous place that is 'different' but I've been on it for several months and it seems no different other than a lot of the users on piefed instances huffing their own farts on how superior they are for being on piefed.

Haha.

I get that!

It does take years to feel the difference in a place like this.

Many of us have been engaged with computer freedom for decades. We're...um...quite happy with this place. But we should be. We put significant work into creating it, and the principles we built it on do work (slowly).

Your feedback on smug superiority is 1000% valid.

We're stuck in smug party mode here because this is the year of the Linux desktop! We've been at this for decades and Microsoft just wildly misplayed their hand. The current specific vibe might calm down, eventually.

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If you notice a pattern - i.e. someone who posts abusive comments all the time - report their profile and I'll look into banning them from piefed.social to save us all a lot of hassle.

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"It's all the same people"

It's just people... what you've described I've seen everywhere online for decades, from posters at the tiny crypto zoology forum to huge groups of users like FB and Reddit.

If you're looking for no arrogance and respectful conversations, good luck. I've never seen it and I'm very old.

If you find "respectful land" give me a head's up, I wanna see it!

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how has your experience been?

Posts and comments cannot be easily deleted, for one.

Otherwise, the general experience is like being at an anarchists' beer hall. Where there's constant talk of revolution and expressing hatred of various enemies, but only a few actually taking to the streets.

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I joined a month ago, and I like Lemmy much much more than Reddit. The federation makes it visible that you're part of a large community, there's no advertising, and I find the discussion to be of a generally higher quality. I also like that one can see upvotes and downvotes. Not sure whether it needs to be fuzzified or embargoed to fight abuse in future, but either way, it's nice.

I'm absolutely sold on Lemmy vs Reddit. I dumped Twitter when Musk took over, and by then I was already on Mastodon, but I don't actually use it much. Didn't use Twitter much either. Any comments on Mastodon vs Bluesky?

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Hi & welcome to all new users.

If you feel intimidated or jarred, it's normal. Just keep in mind it's OK make mistakes while trying new things out. There is only very kind moderators around here, well, a few are nice ;)

Don't be afraid to ask questions about anything you find confusing (there are quite a few, to be honest).

And to those that have been here for a while, how has your experience changed over the year(s)?

  1. I stopped worrying about the few things I did not like and focus my attention on what I think is great around here.
  2. I learned to filter the default feed by showing only 'Subscribed' and learned to use keywords to filter out the many types of content I have zero interest in. It instantly made the experience much better.
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couple months, its pretty ok.

id like more users, but thats about it.

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lemmy.world

That we still can't use a single account to comment and post outside of our home instance is the most frustrating part of the fediverse and the main contradiction to "you just need one sign up".

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Skavaureply
piefed.social

I am posting outside of my instance right now by replying to you

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I guess i butchered my complaint. I was thinking of migrating accounts or one account for all instances or something like that. Multiple signups are still a bitcannoying. Although it only matters for defederation corner cases and instances closing up.

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Ok i butchered it.

I was thinking of federated accounts, not participating in posts across the fediverse.

when you want to migrate instances, its annoying to create the same account name again and again.

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lemmy.zip

I have been using Lemmy for about 6 months and truth be had I am still really completely lost on the structure.

But that really doesn’t matter. I have found the communities (I thought they were called instances) that have the content I enjoy and they are reasonably active.

That is has been the biggest surprise for me, so many communities are completely dead. There is one movie community. Whose last post was 1.5 years ago.

I think the strength of the federated model also works against it. It really delutes the community’s content.

Also Lemmy is a total dead zone for any sports discussion. I have discovered an NFL community that seems active but I found it at the end of those year’s season.

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Skavaureply
piefed.social

That is has been the biggest surprise for me, so many communities are completely dead. There is one movie community. Whose last post was 1.5 years ago.

![email protected]?

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IWW4reply
lemmy.zip

No that one is the most active of all the ones I have checked out. It tends to have daily activity.

I have unsubbed to a lot of communites that were dead, so I don’t have a link.

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Oh sorry, I misread, I thought you meant "one movie community" as if that was the only community on the Fediverse about movies.

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lemmy.world

The instance is the part after the @. They host users and communities. Admins manage the instance.

The community is the thing you subscribe to. Moderators manage the community.

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Thank you so much!!!

That is exactly what I never grasped!

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lemmy.zip

Been on here since August and I like it. Left Reddit after I got a permaban for expressing how much I'd love to see the death of billionaires so I came here. Haven't had to worry about a ban for things I say and haven't been banned from groups cause I commented on other groups (I don't know what they're called and I don't want to call them subs). I'm still getting messages from mods of subreddits saying I've been banned cause I commented on an anti-Nintendo sub despite my profile being perma-banned from the site.

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I’m still getting messages from mods of subreddits

Some of them are fucking bots.

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lemmy.ml

Kinda shit, actually. It's mostly just reddit reposts, nazi bot reposts, and furry porn.

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The internet is like that, yes.

At least there are no advertising here.

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There's much more here than that, but it doesn't propagate perfectly between servers.

What one sees is determined by what others on the same server have subscribed to.

One can work around this, searching for and manually subscribing - being that first user.

But it can be worth switching servers if the feed is really different than what you're looking for. It can save a bunch of steps.

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piefed.social

I cannot use it, want to get rid of Reddit but this feels and acts like a site from 1980s , navigation and jumping off from one part to another is cumbersome at best and unknown at worst. What is difference between this and what I get in boost app is unknown.

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Threads is a Facebook thing and I stay away. The tiny corner of Mastodon that I look at is pretty good. Lemmy, well I'm here and it's not totally bad, but it leaves a lot to be desired. Too much duplication, too much clickbait, and believe it or not too much centralization. For example, your reading history is store on the server instead of the client.

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lemmy.world

Got tired of the tankies on lemmy, was about to go to piefed, heard about the censorship of piefed, went back to lemmy. So idk

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round and round we go. i feel the same way. tired of weirdos with superiority complexes who feel it's appropriate to harass, intimate, and try to silence anyone who is different than them.

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reddthat.com

Honestly not great. I was permanently banned from Reddit and the admins wouldn't tell me what I did. I came to Lemmy thinking it was a better alternative to Reddit, only to find out how toxic Lemmy is. It's even worse than Reddit in terms of toxicity.

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Azraelreply
reddthat.com

I've had the same experience. Everywhere else is a bit of a ghost town.

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beSylreply
slrpnk.net

Really? That is surprising. I don't find lemmy to be toxic.

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Azraelreply
reddthat.com

Look at some of the more political threads and you'll see what I mean. They have a serious problem with ideological absolutism. You're either with them 100%, or you're the enemy. No room for nuance.

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I am only on lemmy.world so far

I like the people and moderation much more than Reddit. I've had a couple interactions with mods, and it's so weird, it was like they are actually people or something. Very reasonable comparatively.

No advertisements for Jesus is pleasant, also. Thanks!

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I use social media a lot less which I like. I like that it’s a smaller area that seems to grow organically. I like that there are different ways to engage and it’s interoperable.

The concept is still confusing at times but I think it’s better for me than non-federated options.

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I switched from Reddit a few years ago to give Facebook another try. Not with pride but Reddit just got too political without an account and all I needed was to scroll for a few minutes to see cats and other nonesense and only some news once in a while. Then some guy threatened the EU with war if we don't hand over Greenland or Iceland and that was it for me after years of trying to not mind the bad guys.

The biggest problem with lemmy was and still is the hideous UI/UX. It sucks on desktop but even more on mobile (try looking for new communities, only usable in horizontal). I tried to look into "the" code to find a way to add another theme or whatever goes into that direction (Mastodon seems to have a custom CSS field for users, and it looks bad aswell) but since I'm not yet into Rust and because of parallel personal issues I chose to accept it.

But the problems remain: not having an account means you see Trump in 70% of the threads. The other 30% are usually technological subjects that are driven my Musk and/or the Slop. Getting an account means to solve a damn complicated Captcha. And even though I try to cross out the politics I see them for like 20% in technology or shitposts if I remembered to switch once again to the subscibed feed. And that's okay in my view, noone should post less. Quite the opposite to get things going here (shame on me tough, I'll probably stay a lurker). But I'd appreciate something more diverting from the daily doom news.

A few weeks passed now only going to lemmy when I fancied a scroll and it was quite okay. Then I found something I wanted to share with my online friends I rarely talk to and alas, there are none in the Fediverse. Pixelfed could be the right thing for it but I'm just not into the Instagram stuff and there wouldn't be anyone I know anyway. Perhaps I'll give it a try later but not for now.

So it's not a total replacement for leisure time. There is still the occasional need to buy stuff on Amazon. I still need to increasingly use Microsoft for work. And for events and news of a wider friends circle there is the need to go to ol' Facebook. But my account is no longer in the daily users statistics. It's a marathon... so thanks for being here :)

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