The fact that political identity apparently determines whether you use a Mac or an HP laptop is the level of specific detail I didn’t know I needed today. 😂
please stop using the word "PC", it makes no sense. Any computer can be personal, and I'd argue some windows computers are less "personal" than macs in terms of moddability and ownership
This doesn’t even make sense. What makes Basketball inherently democratic/liberal? What makes Baseball republican/conservative?
Apple is aligned with Trump thanks to Tim Cook, NYT writes with a conservative slant, HP is shit-tier hardware, but WhyTF is it red? Why list it at all?
This feels like something thrown together by someone who spent and entire weekend learning about US political culture from memes, and I’m 50% certain this was drawn by AI.
To be fair around 15 years ago that Windows vs Mac division would've been fairly accurate. Hip young people use Mac while fiscally-focused business people run Windows
The infographic is explaining broad cultural differences. If you think many people in liberal america are changing their laptops because of Tim Cook, you are out of touch.
NYT writes with a conservative slant
Again, this is about broad cultural trends. I know one of lemmy's favorite catchphrases is "America has a center right party and a far right party" - and I'm not saying that isn't true. But the people in these parties and the people occupying their associated social demographics see large differences between each other, which is what this infographic is about. American liberals, by and large, respect the NYT. They might disagree with its slant in one way or another, but if a god-and-guns conservative starts criticizing it over thanksgiving dinner, they will defend it tooth and nail. Meanwhile, American leftists are not represented in this infographic because they make up an incredibly small portion of the population, and are largely culturally irrelivant outside a few isolated and insular pockets.
HP is shit-tier hardware, but WhyTF is it red?
It is a stand-in for non-Mac PCs in general. They probably felt they had to pick a brand to counter "Mac", and HP only has 2 letters and so fit in the infographic better.
What makes Basketball inherently democratic/liberal? What makes Baseball republican/conservative?
I agree this is their weakest comparison. I assume they were going with basketball=black people, baseball=apple pie. A more apt comparison, imo, would be conservatives watching sports while liberals watch TED Talks or something.
What makes Basketball inherently democratic/liberal? What makes Baseball republican/conservative?
Maybe the artist considered basketball “liberal” because many of the best players are Black, and the game is often played by kids in cities. I think better choices for a conservative sport would be American football or NASCAR.
Most city schools don't have room for a baseball field, but everyone's got a basketball hoop. And idiots love to rally around baseball as the red blooded american sport, never mind that half the MLB is latino.
Hell I have a basketball hoop in my driveway that came with my house! Have I ever used it? Nope! Not my thing, but if I had someone over who wanted to play basketball or my kids decided they really wanted to play it, I've already got a full size hoop just gotta pop over to the store and get a basketball
I think it's more that baseball has slowly become an 'elite' sport, and republicans (who have their cultural image shaped by elites) want to be elite. Rich kids can definitely still pursue baseball as an alternative to polo. Meanwhile, basketball is still viewed as a sport where you can go to that basketball hoop at the park, work your way up from a kid through school trying hard, and make it (even if basketball players now have the same 'academy' style training facilities that they came from just like baseball has had for a few decades). I have at least one acquaintance who did the whole 'traveling high school team' thing for basketball now.
The image still in people's head though, is of charles barkley and (shit I can't remember his name) the other houston rocket guy who played at their local community center before playing for the rockets. The center still had their pictures and stories up on the wall when I was last in houston. It still feels like people come from that path. Contrast that with my acquaintance from high school who eventually played pro baseball where it was more something along the lines of: moved to a high school with an elite, known team; went to a baseball trainer after school; played in the amateur, organized leagues outside of school; had parents arrange meetings with scouts, coaches at colleges, and toured each program; played in college; kept going to a trainer during college; then finally went to amateur/pro baseball.
Agreeing/coming to an agreement, versus the "left" side constantly arguing.
Japan et al is a very societally conservative country and considers the typical right-wing mob/sheep mentality preferable to the left's constant debates.
Interesting. I know japan has that weird kfc-at-christmas because of the successful ad campaign, but it's always korean fried chicken that I hear about being special.
Japan et al is a very societally conservative country and considers the typical right-wing mob/sheep mentality preferable to the left's constant debates.
Eh... Kind of? In my experience most people under 40 in Japan are completely apolitical. Like to the point where they wouldn't really understand the difference between the left and right.
They have some of the worst voting turnout in the world, and the older class typically makes all the decisions in regards to government.
They are socially conservative, but mostly because the younger generations are completely disconnected from politics.
Yeah, they blew that one. But, I suspect it's because they associate "fast food" with KFC, over McDonald's. Although, I think McD's is nearly as well known, if not as well liked there?
For those interested in the etymology of the party names at the top:
The democrat side uses the characters "the people", "lord", and "party". My interpretation is "the people are in charge party", which makes sense because democracy is "the rule of the people".
The republican side uses the characters "share", "peace", and "party". To me, this one doesn't have an interpretation that obviously links to republicanism.
I think it's a pretty good translation of the word; "Republicans" ostensibly would support a "republic", which is governed supposedly for the common good by mechanisms which are not really explained or examined and definitely distinct from just letting people do whatever they agree on like under one of those gross dirty democracies. "Common harmony" captures the same good-vibes/no-plan energy.
Of course, what they've got now aren't even actual republicans, because, like their favorite model of Rome, republics love to become empires.
The connection here is a peace/harmony/order (because peace/harmony stems from order) that comes from "together" or "joint" (rule). Hence, republicanism (as in the ruling system).
It is the literal translation of the names of the parties.
If you think that, you live in a bubble. Go to an anti-Trump protest and ask what desktop operating system they use. Your answers will be "Windows is gross, ew, I use a Mac", "Whatever my job gives me, I haven't used a personal laptop in years", and "What's an operating system?"
Probably because MAC was niche for a long time hipster for a long time. HP/Compaq and now Dell has almost always been synonymous with corporate office workers
I feel like this is because Japanese tourists hit up Hawaii and the west cost a lot. Affluent areas and the west coast tech scene are littered with Macs. And those areas are also pretty blue.
I think demographic spillover to some extent. Basketball is seen as more of an African american sport (vs hard racism). Rural areas are also more likely have to have a gas station with a 44-64oz/1-2L fountain drink vs urban coffee shops. Macs are viewed as more artistic and high end
I think the people at the top are supposed to represent the ideal that the side wants. Republican farters want women in dresses and men in suits (likely doing business), where the democrats want, I guess, casual friday? It's accurate for the red dicks, at least.
I remember reading something about the political divides in US sports fandoms.
If I recall correctly, the NFL and MLB are both pretty balanced across the political spectrum.
The NBA has more Democratic fans, which is largely demographic correlation with having more black fans. College football is arguably the quintessential Republican sport. Again, I think that's largely demographics, though, because college football is more popular in areas without NFL teams (more rural areas).
Oh man, they got me dead to rights. I’m not the biggest fan of basketball or cnn but everything else. The only match on the other side is I do like going to a couple major league games every summer
And take the NYT there too
And every other media outlet
Yep move all the mainstream media out of that left column.
And Apple
And the Tesla
They forgot the fascism and guns on the red side. Maybe they are all inside the church.
As Jesus intended
* Jesus in this comment is American Jesus only. Any resemblance to other incarnations of Jesus are entirely coincidental and should not be inferred.
At first glance I thought the catcher is pointing a gun towards the other guy's ass.
The fact that political identity apparently determines whether you use a Mac or an HP laptop is the level of specific detail I didn’t know I needed today. 😂
My tankie ass on in that Thinkpad with Linux shit. The Japanese news reading public can not possibly comprehend this
I prefer a custom built PC. What does that make me on the US political spectrum?
To put it in terms suited to a graphic printed in a Japanese newspaper:
I accept this wholeheartedly.
Leftist probably
I knew I had good reason to hate HP laptops.
Hell, facism is the least of all reasons to hate HP laptops
It's PC vs MAC. The war rages on.
please stop using the word "PC", it makes no sense. Any computer can be personal, and I'd argue some windows computers are less "personal" than macs in terms of moddability and ownership
https://youtu.be/qfv6Ah_MVJU
This doesn’t even make sense. What makes Basketball inherently democratic/liberal? What makes Baseball republican/conservative?
Apple is aligned with Trump thanks to Tim Cook, NYT writes with a conservative slant, HP is shit-tier hardware, but WhyTF is it red? Why list it at all?
This feels like something thrown together by someone who spent and entire weekend learning about US political culture from memes, and I’m 50% certain this was drawn by AI.
HP is BUSINESS, while Apple is CREATIVE. The greatest of political divides. /s
This picture is at least 15 years old, I remember it making the rounds during uhh, I want to say Obama's first term.
So it’s stupid AND outdated, thanks for letting me know.
To be fair around 15 years ago that Windows vs Mac division would've been fairly accurate. Hip young people use Mac while fiscally-focused business people run Windows
The infographic is explaining broad cultural differences. If you think many people in liberal america are changing their laptops because of Tim Cook, you are out of touch.
Again, this is about broad cultural trends. I know one of lemmy's favorite catchphrases is "America has a center right party and a far right party" - and I'm not saying that isn't true. But the people in these parties and the people occupying their associated social demographics see large differences between each other, which is what this infographic is about. American liberals, by and large, respect the NYT. They might disagree with its slant in one way or another, but if a god-and-guns conservative starts criticizing it over thanksgiving dinner, they will defend it tooth and nail. Meanwhile, American leftists are not represented in this infographic because they make up an incredibly small portion of the population, and are largely culturally irrelivant outside a few isolated and insular pockets.
It is a stand-in for non-Mac PCs in general. They probably felt they had to pick a brand to counter "Mac", and HP only has 2 letters and so fit in the infographic better.
I agree this is their weakest comparison. I assume they were going with basketball=black people, baseball=apple pie. A more apt comparison, imo, would be conservatives watching sports while liberals watch TED Talks or something.
Maybe the artist considered basketball “liberal” because many of the best players are Black, and the game is often played by kids in cities. I think better choices for a conservative sport would be American football or NASCAR.
This is all just a guess.
Most city schools don't have room for a baseball field, but everyone's got a basketball hoop. And idiots love to rally around baseball as the red blooded american sport, never mind that half the MLB is latino.
Hell I have a basketball hoop in my driveway that came with my house! Have I ever used it? Nope! Not my thing, but if I had someone over who wanted to play basketball or my kids decided they really wanted to play it, I've already got a full size hoop just gotta pop over to the store and get a basketball
I think it's more that baseball has slowly become an 'elite' sport, and republicans (who have their cultural image shaped by elites) want to be elite. Rich kids can definitely still pursue baseball as an alternative to polo. Meanwhile, basketball is still viewed as a sport where you can go to that basketball hoop at the park, work your way up from a kid through school trying hard, and make it (even if basketball players now have the same 'academy' style training facilities that they came from just like baseball has had for a few decades). I have at least one acquaintance who did the whole 'traveling high school team' thing for basketball now.
The image still in people's head though, is of charles barkley and (shit I can't remember his name) the other houston rocket guy who played at their local community center before playing for the rockets. The center still had their pictures and stories up on the wall when I was last in houston. It still feels like people come from that path. Contrast that with my acquaintance from high school who eventually played pro baseball where it was more something along the lines of: moved to a high school with an elite, known team; went to a baseball trainer after school; played in the amateur, organized leagues outside of school; had parents arrange meetings with scouts, coaches at colleges, and toured each program; played in college; kept going to a trainer during college; then finally went to amateur/pro baseball.
I came here to comment that this looks like AI and don't want to be repetitive but I would reckon this is 100% AI.
It is 100% AI, so I wouldn't think too deep on any of the choices depicted. Look at the apartment building.
Agreeing/coming to an agreement, versus the "left" side constantly arguing.
Japan et al is a very societally conservative country and considers the typical right-wing mob/sheep mentality preferable to the left's constant debates.
But they gave us the good sushi tho
Have you tried Japanese fried chicken? It’s incredible.
Also their omelettes and pancakes.
But not their cheese. Fuck Japan’s terrible cheese.
Okonomiyaki, breakfast of elite college libs.
Interesting. I know japan has that weird kfc-at-christmas because of the successful ad campaign, but it's always korean fried chicken that I hear about being special.
Eh... Kind of? In my experience most people under 40 in Japan are completely apolitical. Like to the point where they wouldn't really understand the difference between the left and right.
They have some of the worst voting turnout in the world, and the older class typically makes all the decisions in regards to government.
They are socially conservative, but mostly because the younger generations are completely disconnected from politics.
That’s how the west got where it is now. The majority no giving a shit opens the door for the minority/nutters to do what they want.
Being “apolitical” means you support the current system/party. If you didn’t you’d be political.
Naww... the rednecks down here love their Coke. I call bs
Double bs. The divide is between starbucks and gas station 64oz tumblers of coffee.
Racetrack ftw!
They seem to understand republicans far more than democracts, other than what they call the party.
Fried chicken got a chuckle out of me. I refuse to let the right take away my crispy chicken identity!!
The consumption of tasty dinosaur descendants transcends politics.
Yeah, they blew that one. But, I suspect it's because they associate "fast food" with KFC, over McDonald's. Although, I think McD's is nearly as well known, if not as well liked there?
For those interested in the etymology of the party names at the top:
The democrat side uses the characters "the people", "lord", and "party". My interpretation is "the people are in charge party", which makes sense because democracy is "the rule of the people".
The republican side uses the characters "share", "peace", and "party". To me, this one doesn't have an interpretation that obviously links to republicanism.
Yeah, no. Republicans and sharing are two words that won't fit into the same sentence
Share what you have with us and make Peace with The Party. 🫵
I think it's a pretty good translation of the word; "Republicans" ostensibly would support a "republic", which is governed supposedly for the common good by mechanisms which are not really explained or examined and definitely distinct from just letting people do whatever they agree on like under one of those gross dirty democracies. "Common harmony" captures the same good-vibes/no-plan energy.
Of course, what they've got now aren't even actual republicans, because, like their favorite model of Rome, republics love to become empires.
共 - here meaning "together", "joint" or "common"
和 - here meaning peace or harmony.
The connection here is a peace/harmony/order (because peace/harmony stems from order) that comes from "together" or "joint" (rule). Hence, republicanism (as in the ruling system).
It is the literal translation of the names of the parties.
Democracy party
Republicanism party
Hahaha I'm curious about the reasoning behind the HP and mac being red/blue
HP, I think, just represents using a generic PC. The stereotype is that liberals use Macs
Hm. I would have thought libs would be all in Linux, which is mainly PC focused.
If you think that, you live in a bubble. Go to an anti-Trump protest and ask what desktop operating system they use. Your answers will be "Windows is gross, ew, I use a Mac", "Whatever my job gives me, I haven't used a personal laptop in years", and "What's an operating system?"
Haha that's fair.
The creative industry has a history of using Mac
Probably because MAC was niche for a long time hipster for a long time. HP/Compaq and now Dell has almost always been synonymous with corporate office workers
I feel like this is because Japanese tourists hit up Hawaii and the west cost a lot. Affluent areas and the west coast tech scene are littered with Macs. And those areas are also pretty blue.
The source, 2024 apparently:
https://www.nikkei.com/telling/DGXZTS00011190R00C24A7000000/
Translation:
https://translate.kagi.com/www.nikkei.com/telling/DGXZTS00011190R00C24A7000000?ref=frankandsense.io
Yes, that Nikkei, like the stock exchange:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Nikkei
Though it does feel like one of those “listicle” chum articles. The image feels a bit AI generated, whether it actually is or isn’t.
I like that they think the business professionals just spend the day eating KFC in their pickup truck while listening to Morgan Wallen.
Although the catcher with a handgun is somewhat correct.
I mean, have you lived in the south? Not too far off base
True. That guy could be regional bank manager in Tallahassee.
Looks like the batter got hit in the balls..
Man, they really did home in like a laser on the two worst pc brands in the world. I'm genuinely impressed...
I'm confused about baseball, basketball, and computers. Also not sure about coffee vs soda.
I think demographic spillover to some extent. Basketball is seen as more of an African american sport (vs hard racism). Rural areas are also more likely have to have a gas station with a 44-64oz/1-2L fountain drink vs urban coffee shops. Macs are viewed as more artistic and high end
Well Starbucks has been hardcore screwing over their workers so they are on the shit list.
I don't know what the people are doing at the top.
I think the people at the top are supposed to represent the ideal that the side wants. Republican farters want women in dresses and men in suits (likely doing business), where the democrats want, I guess, casual friday? It's accurate for the red dicks, at least.
I remember reading something about the political divides in US sports fandoms.
If I recall correctly, the NFL and MLB are both pretty balanced across the political spectrum.
The NBA has more Democratic fans, which is largely demographic correlation with having more black fans. College football is arguably the quintessential Republican sport. Again, I think that's largely demographics, though, because college football is more popular in areas without NFL teams (more rural areas).
Baseball is kinda a more old school and traditional sport, while basketball is more hip and new.
Largely fits stereotypes from about 15 years ago. Not the most ignorant I've seen.
Not a single gun. No oil. No megacorporations. The fundamental issues of the core divide aren't even hinted at here.
Being on the side of the HP laptop should be enough of a wakeup call.
They need to have a swarm of dollar signs being sucked into that megachurch.
AI?
AI
It's always the buildings that are the dead giveaway. Wtf is going on with that apartment?
This doesn't look like AI to me. The Buildings are probably like this due to sloppy drawing copy-pasted twice
:(
Disney version of 1992, I see.
besides the point it's weird how I recognize seeing this Image before AI, but I still did a double check.
From some random dude on the Internet, I'm both on some parts of either side of this meme and not even in it in others.
Church and truck are way, way too small to provide adequate compensation for the red guys….ego.
Oh man, they got me dead to rights. I’m not the biggest fan of basketball or cnn but everything else. The only match on the other side is I do like going to a couple major league games every summer
Very accurate.
I think the only ones I don’t do on either side is live in an apartment, eat sushi, own an electric car, or watch cnn and fox
Conservatives own homes.
I think the house/apartment thing is supposed to imply the city/rural divide
You’re right. I didn’t realize they’re apartments.
Although I think the argument can still be made that it shows conservatives have homes out of most others price range. Unless those are all condos.
The what argues with women, and men and women on the right shake. Also CNN? Is that a stand in for being informed by multiple sources of news?
They seem quite pleased, I think it's more about casual clothes and communication vs rigid/formal clothes and communication.