Spyke

Anyone else on here a "Reddit refugee"?

Basically what I mean is, did you also come here from reddit?

I came here after I got my Reddit account banned permanently. And the thing is, I don't exactly know why I got banned. Nor what I did wrong. I always tried to follow the rules, post and comment appropriately and nicely, but on New Year's Day last week, I got a message simply saying "Your account have been permanently banned for violating the rules.

But when I replied asking what rule or rules I unknowingly broke, they just messaged me back saying "you got banned because you violated the community guidelines". So now I'm here.

What about you? Are you also a Reddit Refugee?

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lemmy.world

I think the majority of Lemmy users are Reddit refugees, not because they got banned, but because of the Reddit API changes that forced 99% of the third party apps to shut down.

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Pechentereply
feddit.org

It’s a way for apps to interact with reddit. Reddit shut down the API for third party clients so that you’re forced to use their crappy official app instead of much nicer alternatives.

I used a different app to access Reddit and hence couldn’t use it anymore. The official app was a huge downgrade to what I was using before and full of ads. So I - like many others - just left Reddit for good.

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kbin.melroy.org

to be precise: not exactly shut down, but made it really expensive

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That's like saying you can hack SSH/HTTPS just by calculating out the prime number, it just takes really long time (billion years).

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the official app is more data mining, and intrusive too. thats probably one of the reason why reddit doesnt want it, because they cant sell your info to GOOGLE, or OPENAI and palintir.

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If I have valuable info and I want to share it in a controlled way, I can use an API. If i am an airline, I could spit out a feed that tells you a list of flights and how delayed they are. If im Reddit, I can share posts, comments, etc.

Anyone (in the case of a free API) can take the data the API spits out and make their own app with it. But if you charge for API access, then someone would have to pay to make an app with your information.

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The API change wasn’t it, it’s when it became clear to me they were selling all my data to Google. I frequented mental health subs, and I started getting Google ads for scams TARGETING people with mental health issues. Just sick.

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infosec.pub

Woah there boi, we prefer the name “Reddit Expats”, we no simple refugees or immigrants

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Unless this is your job and you're planning to go back to reddit, we're not expats.

Or is this a dog whistle?

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lemmy.world

not because they got banned

Nah, that's always been a sizable chunk. Fediverse will always have the worst of the worst, because it's the easiest to evade bans. And yet there's still multiple people who constantly get accounts banned for ban evasion.

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sh.itjust.works

Since the API exodus, yes.

I made a very conscious choice to leave reddit at that time, due to that particular bullshit, and I don't regret it.

Doesn't mean I don't miss reddit though, because I do. Reddit has a lot more traffic which obviously means a lot more content in the sort of niche communities I really love.

But I made the right choice. I don't want to be part of that any longer. And the more of us make this choice, the better things will be for us all.

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lemmy.today

there are niche subs i miss, like drama of ytuber i used to follow(obscure ytubers, not the current grifters).

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lemmy.ml

I still follow my niche interests via the lurk-only app Stealth. It allows you to kinda follow subreddits you want like multireddits you could create with RES but you can't login so you can't post. Feels like an okay-ish third party reddit app.

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Good to know that app is still being worked on. I used it in the past until around 2024 but stopped because it haven't had any update.

Good to see there's a couple from 2023 in 2025 :p

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lemmy.ca

... Every single person on Lemmy is a Reddit refugee. You're not going to find a single person here who has not used Reddit before.

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Ada
piefed.blahaj.zone

The vast majority of folk here are ex Reddit users. I predate the great Reddit exodus, but even so, I came to lemmy after leaving Reddit, because I wanted something to scratch that itch.

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reddit forced alot of people off the site, after the election to change the narrative and introduce more astroturfing, plus the use of AI also drastically increased on reddit as well.

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Yes, a lot of us left during the API exodus. Reddit was already going downhill anyway with all the bot spam and shills, that's probably even worse there nowadays.

Once in a while I do bring up old.reddit to read through some communities that haven't caught on here (yet), or maybe something that comes up in a google search, but that hasn't been enough to make me want to log back in there let alone post/comment on anything.

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lemmy.world

I left with the disabling of API.

Today, I went back in to my account to delete every single comment I have ever made, one by one, then deleted the entire account. Should have done it ages ago, but better now than never.

I was reading about bans and stuff and all sorts that I didn't care to understand, so instead of using a third party apps to change/delete/etc my comments, I did it manually. It felt pretty satisfying.

My last "fuck you, r/jailbait Spez". I'm not letting them use my comments or account for anything. Hopefully, I've done it right.

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lemmy.world

They see that happening and just restore all of the deleted comments anyway.

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Jumbiereply
lemmy.zip

You’ve gotta replace the comments so that the new comment is what’s backed up. When it’s restored by Reddit it’ll be the Gibberish you left behind in your edit.

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Take note, those who haven't deleted their Reddit accounts yet. Don't do what I did - do this instead!

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I would probably even say: Who wasnt?
You either came from Twitter, Reddit or some other major social media as a primary user.
I don't believe someone just was old enough to join the internet world and decided to just join lemmy/fediverse at first sight.

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mander.xyz

I am here from reddit but I wouldn't call myself a refugee. More like an immigrant. I wasn't banned. I just tried this, liked it better, and since I disagreed with the API changes I settled here. I still browse reddit when I can't find specific stuff on Lemmy, and very, very occasionally (like once or twice a year) I post there in subs that aren't as developed here.

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This but I would die before posting on reddit, you can check my history there and confirm I speak the truth. Spez can tongue my anus.

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Same here.
My first account was banned for (IMO bogus reasons)
My now second but primary account is still active sometimes but I only lurk 99% of the time and almost never vote
I only use Lemmy as of now primarily.

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They killed 3rd party apps, I didn't wanna use their app, so I switched to something else and that something else happened to be Lemmy. Turns out, Lemmy is even better than Reddit in many ways.

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They killed 3rd party apps. I left when my app stopped working and lemmy conveniently worked with some of the same clients that reddit was breaking.

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I think the better question is to ask who isn't a Reddit refugee. As in, who here never had a Reddit account and just showed up on Lemmy one day?

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Originally I came with the API changes, I had only been using reddit for two months though. If I had known about Lemmy I don't think I would have had the desire to use reddit in the first place.

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Same story got hooked on Reddit because I could access content without an account. Turns out: you can do the same with Lemmy, the results just aren't that high on a web browser.

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lemmy.world

Same here. Permanently banned from all of Reddit, and I was never told why. I suspect it was my criticism of the Orange One. I appeal every day, just to give them a little more paperwork.

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sh.itjust.works

I still consume on Reddit, but won’t post or contribute there anymore.

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lemmy.sdf.org

Yeah, so much good information is there it's unavoidable to just browse on in, from time to time.

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It feels like Even if someone did ask on Lemmy, it doesn't appear on Google or other search engines at all. makes me wonder if it's because of the federation or if it's actively being pushed down...

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Really obscure or local stuff is going to be just on Reddit. But yes, I definitely have noticed Lemmy used to appear in search results (Bing via DuckDuckGo usually) but hasn't for a while.

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Yes, I'm a Reddit refugee.

The site changed so much over the ten years I used it. When I started, there was plenty of good discussion and the most informative comments got voted up. Then power users started playing the same games with karma that rich people play with money. Near the end the negativity and superficiality were overwhelming. Then the API business happened and I realised Reddit was in the last few stages of circling the drain. I learned about Lemmy from a comment by someone who announced they were leaving for good, and I followed them.

If you look at Reddit today... the posts and comments share the same quality regardless of whether they're human or AI slop.

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Truth is, regardless of how fucked that platform is, I still resent being banned and the insane extent to which they prevent you returning. The use of throwaways was entirely normal back in the day, now it's called 'ban evasion'. It's nearly impossible (or at least super-tedious) to get back on once they kick you off. It just seems like such an extreme over-reaction. Permanent bans are insane. I've seen people get barred from pubs after drunken violence, but that's usually only for a year or so. This is basically forever.

I was on there for over a decade and posted in multiple communities all the time. Had a load of karma and rarely got into any aggressive arguments. Then one day I upset a mod for complaining about a removed post, that apparently contravened some petty rule. I'm banned from the sub. I use another account, they found out it was me I'm permanently banned. 12 years of contribution just forgotten, all because of some vindictive little basement dwelling prick.

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MAGA freaks should love me. I didn't get banned from reddit, I self-deported.

I actually had a Fediverse account several years before the Great Reddit Migration, but it didn't keep my interest at the time. Tried again and stuck with it after the API change killed third-party reddit apps and they started inserting reddit-approved mods into all major subs.

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i spent 15+ years on reddit but when they started to sell out to wall street it was pretty obvious where it was going... but im addicted to doomscrolling so i built an instance to replace my own reddit addiction. the fediverse has filled the gap nicely.

just before it took a hard right turn and replaced half the users with bots

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the moment they went public, increase in overmoderation was happening, even for the slightest thing.

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Please tell me you're self hosting that on a broken down 2012 laptop, using a $99 GoDaddy domain for the ultimate fuck you asthetic.

well, no. i wanted to build something scalable and something a little more fashioned like reddit so i ended up using an open source project called mbin.

its runnin ~40$/m for the resources required on a rental outta helsinki.

i like to keep it open to the public as a fediverse onramp.. not a lot of local content, but pulls in quite a bit of shit. i think my compressed database backups are ~7GB. image store is ~500GB/3.25m unique.

after 3 years, some instance stats:

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lemmy.world

I quit the big R when they killed third party apps.

Would have paid them a monthly fee to use my app,but the way they killed them really soured me on Reddit. Burned my account, and moved on

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Banning third party apps was the symptom. The root cause was Reddit going public. The lust for cash ruined Reddit for a lot of people.

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Same (I wouldn't have paid Reddit, but I did donate to boost), but this comment was funny because "The Big R" is what my friend and I call Roblox.

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Leaving all US-American platforms, meta first, then Reddit, now google. No reason to support US businesses.

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lemmy.world

When Reddit killed Apollo, I no longer had the means to use Reddit— I’d rather not have Reddit than use the Reddit app.

Unlike so many people here, I have nothing against centralized social media, and I actively miss it— I miss having a large user base to talk with, I GREATLY miss all the specialize niche communities I followed. But it’s not good if I can’t access them.

Yes, the centralized nature of Reddit means that one person can fuck up the entire community… but decentralization means I have no one to talk to about the things I want to.

Anyway. I’m here hoping that enough people will eventually join that I can have MY Reddit back. I’m frustrated that the place is so tankie infested though, and fear that’s greatly holding it back.

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Same deal here, it's why I'm struggling so much to lean more heavily on Mastodon too. I just can't figure it out, it constantly feels like I'm using it wrong Still not using Xitter, just Bluesky

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lemmy.world

I came here and leave Reddit forever because I am trying to use less US products and services. Right now I don't know how to bypass Microsoft and Google. Everything else is easy (like forgetting about Reddit or not drinking Coca Cola).

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sh.itjust.works

If you can afford and are not relying on games get a mac. I mean it's still US but it is soooo much better and less enshitticated than windows. Regarding Google you can switch to a European cloud use duckduckgo or stuff for search, there are plenty foss alternatives to maps and for YouTube you can check out grayjay. It's a bit tedious but it's possible and as convenient as big tech products

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It's also really nice not to have a continuous doom scroll. You can really only go for like an hour on the front page here until the places start becoming really esoteric. I'm which case not interesting or very interesting. But it's not active enough to provide you with a whole day of gloom. And I kinda like that.

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Yes and no, I was on Mastodon long ago, peaked into Lenmy, watched other Fediverse prokects with interest.

I'd not used Reddit for many years, before I actually made a Lemmy account, then when I saw Boost was available for Lemmy, I started using that.

I am odd though, old and have a differnt view of the internet based around it being a space for enthusiasts and tinkerers and corporate can and will only ever eventually enshitifiy whatever their fingers touch, so I dont use things like FB, Reddit, Apple products, Microsoft products, WhatsApp, Insta, Light room etc

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Ive been trying to leave privatized platforms and after degoogling and leaving meta, reddit was next. It happened to coincide with the acceleration of mod fascism but it was mostly about moving to a libre internet experience

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lemmy.world

At least you got a message. I got shadowbanned without any message, and tons of appeals were just wasted times. :(

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reddthat.com

Shadowbanning is the most passive-aggressive chickenshit behavior. It's not like it isn't almost immediately obvious when it happens either. If you want to ban me, have the balls to tell me and cite the justification for it.

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ever since they employed thier AI moderation, they dont even tell anymore, even for a sitewide ban,. because they dont want to give away details how they are using nebelous, arbitrary AI to ban people.

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I'm also here from the API thing. This scratches the itch for me and that's more than enough in this day and age.

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lemmy.world

I got banned for low key implying there's a genocide going on in Gaza.

Not even stating it.

Just implying it.

"antisemitism, permaban"

That was in 2023 iirc

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lemmy.ca

one of my accounts got banned for offering an explanation of somebody else's thought process. I was "advocating violence" or some shit like that, apparently

because I offered my best take at what might have been going through this person's head for why they took a particular action.

mods & admins are all dumb cunts. not my subs, though, my mods were cool, obviously

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because I offered my best take at what might have been going through this person's head

Empathy..?

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Same here. My reddit account kept getting banned without any warning and i didn't even do anything lol. Honestly reddit has been really weird now. If you had an account which is more than 4-5 years old, then they won't do anything. But they basically just ban all new accounts if you post or comment anything. I am still new here so i am having a hard time understanding this platform. If anyone can help mei navigate it better, i would be grateful.

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I'm guessing most people here came from Reddit. It was a ghost town before the APIocalypse.

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I was/am. After my 4th random permaban I said fuck it, typed "reddit alternative" into Google and this popped up.

Its pretty sweet for now until theres too many of us on the lifeboat and Skynet finds us and we get bots out the arse.

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lemmy.world

Yes I think many of us are. During the last elections there was a whole slew of accounts that were banned over not supporting the ‘right side’. I think Reddit is just moderated by bots now. Hence the shitty replies from it.

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lemmy.org

Yup, I got a 3 day ban for critising Donald trumps tariff and science cutting strategies

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I voluntarily quit Reddit when the API fuckery happened. Deleted all of my posts, comments, etc. after 16 years, and millions of useless points. I don't and never will give a fuck. Also a refugee from Digg before that, Fark, /. etc. I'm pretty happy with the fediverse so far, and will likely stand up my own server(s) in the next year or so.

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piefed.europe.pub

Ohhh!

And I am also a Lemmy refugee! 🤪

I mentioned the concentration camps China uses for Uyghurs, and I mentioned them with a rather mild wording. *blam*! Comment deleted! By one of the main people maintaining Lemmy. Hooray. I really didn't want to play on their sandbox after that.

Somebody happened to mention Piefed in some /c/ just a couple of days later and now I'm here :)
Feels much more like home to me! 🙂

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To be fair you could just use a different Lemmy instance. From what you said I have a feeling you were on the .ml instance which does have that type of moderation :/

Either way glad you're still in the Fediverse even if it's not a Lemmy instance :)

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My home instance was sopuli.xyz, but the community in question was on lemmy.ml indeed. I haven't written anything on .ml ever since.

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now you cant even reference"something should happen to trump" or "naming the Minnesota ICE shooter"

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i am, after the great purges last year, feb-april was just a massive slaughter of accounts for everyone. more or less reddit realized by doing this they are losing too many users to fast, so they just switch to more insidious background bannings.

to, OP it seems like they do these purges near the beginning of the year, just last year it was more severe. i think want mostly AI to run the show now, and just use the remaining users for ad revenue.

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Yes I'm also a lemmigrant. But I wasn't on Reddit for long enough to identify much with it.

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I am a Reddit exile. I don’t know exactly what I did to get banned, and really give a shit why.

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I'm more of a deserter than a refugee. My first Lemmy account must be 5 or 6 years old at this point; I was there in the background when the magic was written 😛. Over time, my activity on reddit gradually decreased, and I stopped using it some months before the API exodus.

::: spoiler spoiler

:::

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jlai.lu

Wahou! 6 years?! What did the threadiverse looked like back then?

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The devs were far more accessible, and new server admins would troubleshoot issues with the newly implemented federation thingy with them (yup, it wasn't always there!). And they'd make a sort of introduction post for their server, asking to be federated. Yeah, there was a kind of simplicity that's been lost the more people got in.

It was also feasible to read an entire day worth of posts in less than an hour 😅

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And they’d make a sort of introduction post for their server

Sounds super nice (^_^)

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I am right on my path of weaning from the Tangerine Turd's America. Degoogling. Buying locally, Payment options, car choice, Amazon, etc.

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Yes, I also came via Reddit. All the accounts I created were deactivated shortly after; I had 14 in total

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piefed.europe.pub

A Fecesbook refugee :)

(Okay, there's one group that is too valuable for me. And another one where people really need help with trying to save the world and I write answers beginning with "yeah, this will work, but there are caveats. I'll write more on the Fediverse side of our group, here's the link: ", and then I write a longer text here on Piefed and add the link in the end of my FB comment.)

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Oh I was just curious if most of us were here from reddit in general.

I'm here because I got banned and Idk why. And according to other places on the internet, people have been banned on reddit without any proper reasoning and this has apparently been going on for months.

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AI-BOOK more likely, REDDIT is becoming its clone soon enough. i only ever used facebook for certain games.

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lemmy.world

That sucks that you got banned with such a vague reason.

I stopped using my Reddit account after they blocked Sync from working. I still use the site now and then on the browser for casting a wider pop culture net and niche content, but I've tried to shift to the Fediverse where I can.

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Yeah, and I could have sworn it was part of of Reddit policy that mods are supposed to tell you exactly why your account got banned, like specifics.

Or at the very least, you can ask the mods in a new message.

But I guess not, because when I asked why the told me "it's because you violated community guidelines", and before I could question again what it was exactly I did that was wrong (because I legit had no idea what it could have been), they muted me indefinitely

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Me. I quit before I gave them the satisfaction of banishing me. It’s a lot more fun and supportive here. 💕

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It wasn’t the apps for me, I never used them. Reddit was become clearly like highscool. I mature, bullies drama.

Secondly I’m a browser user. That damn ‘use the app’ pop up pissed me off no end. As soon as there was ads I was off.

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