Spyke
lemmy.ca

Pop: world is broken let's ignore it

R&b: world is broken let's smash

D&b: world is broken let's dance

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udonreply
lemmy.world

Techno: The world is not broken as long as we have drugs

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folk metal: the world is broken, as foretold from by the Ancient Ones whom we celebrate with gut-wrenching melancholy

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lemmy.world

Breakcore: “the world is b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-brRrRrRrRrRrRrRrRrRrRrRrRrRrRrRrR b r o k eeeeeeee n”.

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Shoegaze:

T̵̡̫̣̫̗̝̪̄̏͑̌̌͛̾h̷̲̻̯̬̲͓͛͆̌̍̂͊̍́̽̌̍̈̚͠͝ĕ̴̢̢̻͉̬̗̦͉̼̻̮͌̐̿͒̈̽͑́͆ͅ ̸͕͈̩̖̙͙̮̺͗̈͆̔́́̊̐͜͜w̶̡̨̢̹͇̳̗͓̔̀͛̌́̓̈͋ó̴̡̧̤͕̻͎̗͙̰̤̗̮̗͎̦̾r̴̘͇̐̎̽̇̋͛͝͠ľ̵̢̡̧̳͈̬̟͎͚̩̳̳̈́͗͑͌͋́̀̀͑͜͜d̴̨̡̨̙̲͖͉͇͙͚̦̫̞̄̊̚ ̸̡̡̝̯̮͕͚͓̆̽̇͐͊̊ǐ̷̢̙̪̝̝͉̩̳̜̯͎̋͛̀̎́͜s̴̖̣̰̞̣̼̎͌͐̇̐̆͛͛͝͠͝ ̵̧̗̳̅͋b̶̨̩̫͖̥̺͚̝͈̫͚̈̎̀̿́̾̆r̷̨͎͉͔̫̝̫̯͚̤͚̻̼͚̦̒̈̑̈́̐͗̍͋̊͠ọ̸͕̱̥͓̞̩̼̲͈̲̺̹̜̻̃̈̈́̔̑͂̀̅̀k̶̏̎͜ȩ̴̻͍͔̬̦̟̼̌̂̇̈́͘͝n̵̳̫̱̤̪̮̫͑̊́̀,̴̡̼̻͛
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̸̛̺̣̪́́̒͊̀̍̎̑͛̌͘͜Ț̸̨͈̯̲͓̻̜̳̤̻̝͉̱̺͑͆̈́̐̃̎h̸̛̠͔͉̜͈͍̺͚̙͔͍̩̘̀͋͐͋͜͝e̴̡̛̩͙̼̘̲͙̙̩̽̄̈́̆͂͆̊̇́͜ ̵̭͕̭̈́ẇ̷̱͛́̌ȏ̶̡͈̟̮̙̫̲̦͚͈̩̙̾͂̊̿̀͜͜r̴̞̪̯̓̒̇͗̑͌͂͘͘l̷͕̪̖̦͔̯͖̉̾̑̄̈́͂̑̂͌̒͛̆͊͜d̴̛̪̙̐̋͆͛̊̄̀̿̽͠ ̸̪̹̦̺̘̦̌̃̏̿̿́̍̃̀̓͆̕͝͠ï̶̜̭͒͒̈͋̍̂̍̃͛̉͂́͘s̷͎̲̰̕ ̶̰̐͗̽̊̌̃͌̄̓͆͜͝ͅb̴̟̠͉̺̖͇͎͗̀r̸̻̥̺͉̩͎̯͕̪͍̝͈̦͋̃͊̒̔̃ͅỏ̶̡̤̦̦̃͌̄̃̔̈́͛̇͊̊̀͘͝ḳ̵̨̹̫̘̙͚̬̥̗̱͕̩̙̕ͅé̵̝͜͝͠n̴͇̲̽̀̀́̐̈,̷̝͙͍͐̀͋̌̽̀̔͒
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TootSweetreply
lemmy.world

Weirdcore: World is broken so I've been slamming Monster energy drinks for 48 hours straight and now I'm delirious and hallucinating the nineties.

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lemmy.world

What -core is "I haven't slept in a week for non-meth reasons so here's wonderwall" (I never learned to play wonderwall)?

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I don't know what the exact genre name is but Opeth's Eternal Rains Will Come comes to mind

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Pop: I have a crush on a boy. World broken? Sorry, um... I don't follow the news.

Gangsta Rap: I'm the king of this 'hood, and don't give a shit about anything happening outside of it.

Country: My truck is my whole world, and the world is broken.

Classical: I will describe the great forces at play that are breaking the world using music.

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feddit.org

Death Metal: RAARRRAOARAAAGHHH (booklet with the lyrics probably says "world is broken let's fuck shit up" )

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lemmy.world

Alternatively, “if you piss blood it's a symptom of kidney issues”.

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"Ska is what a 13 year old hears in their head when they are told they are getting free mozzarella sticks."

Grunge: "The world is broken, and so am I. But there's nothing we can do about it so let's just fuck."

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Re: the ska quote - There's a sticker at a venue here with Batman pimp slapping Robin as he says this that I think about a lot.

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lemmy.world

The three that are not punk itself. Emo and goth both came out of punk, and ska was fused with punk by the time of two-tone.

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Katrisiareply
lemmy.today

Basically, some people started incorporating gloomy aspects to punk aesthetics and music. Gloomy aspects from literature, film, tropes. Some were looking to express similar political sentiments but in a more metaphorical way, I suppose; that's my impression, that there was an added element of artistry/artsy there. Some were looking to add also subjective themes (madness, unlove, etc.). Example (Bauhaus - In the Flat Field).

This gave us post-punk and similar sounds in the very late 70s and mostly early 80s. You probably know some bands that were influential. Example. (The Cure - The Hanging Garden).

Anyway, the mohawk grew longer, blacker. Still teased, often shaved, but creepier. The leyering in clothing also became blacker or creepier (transparent layers, protagonism of the net layers). Theatrical and extravagant outfits emerged, inspired by the decade's fashion too. Example in music video A. (Alien Sex Fiend - R.I.P.).
Example in music video B. (Specimen - Kiss Kiss Bang Bang)

Famously, the night club called "The Batcave" started reuniting bands and listeners, and in the 80s many countries had similar venues. A little more aggressive or punkier sound persisted with a genre called deathrock. There was now post-punk, deathrock, goth rock, darkwave (inspired by the synth-driven genres of the 80s), etc. Example A. (The Sisters of Mercy - Lucretia my Reflection)
Example B. (The Frozen Autumn - Is Everything Real?).

The subculture was consolidated around these genres, and then the name "Goth" stayed, and then more communication and inspiration... And nowadays social media keeps many things alive through teachings in video and, I guess, text, like this one. Why? In part, because [context] a person that is new to all this world is called a "baby bat" and [/context] most Goths are protective and integrating of baby bats.

And that's it. There was a good deathrock revival in the late 00s and early 10s. Example. (Cinema Strange - I Remember Tendon Water). And today there's an obsession to bring back the original elements but it's all still very different (and often cliched, which I don't like, personally).

Here's some Goth music from 'recent' years. (Lebanon Hanover - Gallowdance).
Another one. (Boy Harsher - Fate).
And another one. (The Cemetery Girlz - Broken Teeth)

More knowledgeable Goths, correct or add as needed...

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Thanks, it turns out I didn't know what goth music was.

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lemmy.world

Yeah, after commenting that I considered that what some people consider goth is actually post-punk (the punk connection should be obvious), but then remembered goth rock exists obviously does not come from punk. Ska and emo though for sure, emo by ways of post-hardcore, by ways of hardcore, by ways of protopunk and you've already covered the ska lineage

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lemmy.ca

My understanding is punk came about at least in part of the first wave of ska, not the other way around.

Though I could be mistaken.

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lemmy.world

I can't claim deep familiarity with that era, but I've never heard of punk being derived from ska. Garage rock, Velvet Underground, The Stooges were the progenitors of punk, and in neither those nor Ramones, New York Dolls, Suicide, or Sex Pistols can I hear any traces of ska. It's rather that these bands, Ramones in particular, were returning to raw energy of rock-n-roll and garage rock, against the fancy glam-rock.

Ska, reggae and dub certainly influenced post-punk, and in turn punk influenced the second wave of ska, both emerging almost simultaneously around '78-79.

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lemmy.ca

Anyone feel to correct me if k get any of this wrong, but punk as a genre evolved primarily in a cosmopolitan London ( unsure how much other English cities contributed - someone else can comment) where working class locals and immigrants from countries from across the British empire that had immigrated to London brought their local music with them - first wave aka, reggae, rock and roll, dub(?) all influenced young working class londoners and influenced the development of punk which was firmly rooted in class consciousness, a diy ethos, and rebellion against the rigid classist system of post war England.

Everything you're talking about came later.

You might not necessarily hear the musical influence of some of these genres in the first punk bands that became well known, but the cultural impact of fans of these genres of music was integral to the development of a punk rock ethos that embraced working class solidarity, rebellion against authority, and diy.

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The New York CBGB scene preceded the London scene, from what I can tell, and there was also the Cleveland scene. Punk seems to have been imported to London from NY by Malcolm McLaren, band manager and store owner, rather than working-class folks. Dunno who played punk in the UK before Sex Pistols.

UK punk was of course influenced by the rude boy and skinhead subcultures, but I don't think that manifested musically. Pure punk-rock doesn't quite have any of ska's danceable quality that can't be traced to rock'n'roll and garage rock instead.

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Open question to the floor: what is the most "Ska" song I could send to someone? Like the most iconic or the most stereotypical "Ska" a song could possibly be.

Edit: I've got some listening to do, thanks for the responses, keep them coming! I've never heard of half these bands, and while Ska isn't usually my thing I definitely vibe with some of them.

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For the 90s ska revival, I think Reel Big Fish takes the cake for most ska-ish ska band

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Definitely the first one I thought of. If you're going by most well known, and recognizably ska, then yes this.

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surprised this isnt #1. Def the most stereotypical and well known ska song

for the lazy, it's The Impression that I get

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gmtomreply
lemmy.world

To me, madness - one step beyond is definitive ska

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Commenting both to track these Ska recommendations, I fucking love Ska. But also to recommend Life Sucks...Let's Dance by Reel Big Fish, to my that song really hits the nail on the head in a cliché way. I constantly tell my wife, who reminds me I tell her that every time we are listening to it lol

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axxreply
slrpnk.net

AAA and Link80 are very much not "the most ska", they are very hardcore leaning ska, which is really a few steps too far from The Specials or Toots and the Maytals to be a good introduction to ska.

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AAA and Link 80 were my intro to ska in the late 90s. someone tossed 17 reasons, all fall down and question the answers in my lap and was like "this is your music, im sorry". so skacore is just where it starts in my brain. then it skirts around the gross pit of anything tim armstrong touched and moves to 2tone, then new tone.

little surprised JER and bad opperation didnt pop up in the comments here. but i suppose it's comment thread about ska in a shit post community, not a music specific one.

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Decent recommendations here, but I will always suggest the ska version of I Wanna Riot for playlist purposes.

I've always wanted to see a high school band cover this, and every year I just want that more.

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lemmy.zip

Nu metal is bipolar. Its either "the world is broken but ignore it with the help of a song that has no right to be this groovy" or "the world is broken and thats why im setting the whole fucking place on fire including myself"

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feddit.org

Its either “the world is broken but ignore it with the help of a song that has no right to be this groovy”

Also, "I'm broken, here's a sad and angry song about it that has no right to be this groovy". Nu metal was/is big on introspection and personal tragedies instead of societal tragedies, though introspection =/= wisdom.

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piratingreply
lemmy.world

Damn, now I need to learn about Nu Metal! Who do I listen to in the first batch?

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Uhh thats kinda hard to answer cause nobodys gonna be happy with it. Nu metal is a kind of contraversial genre because nobody agrees on what it is exactly and every artist seems to say that theyre not actually nu metal. My top five would be Korn, deftones, limp bizkit, slipknot, system of a down. The most famous is probably linkin park which you definitely know but they are kinda their own seperate entity. Rage against the machine is also kinda seperate tho still kinda nu metal. As for songs i recommend to get s feeling for the genre: Freak on a leash, blind, break stuff, change, be quiet and drive, aerials and eyeless.

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vga
sopuli.xyz

Jazz: The world is broken and it's beautiful

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lemmy.world

Country: the truck is broken and there is an odd beauty in family parts.

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lemmy.world

Ska is basically: the world’s on fire, but we’re still bringing horns and a two-step. Honestly… fair.

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lemy.lol

Damn, I didn't realize I was ska until just now. I in fact have a trumpet and a coronet. And the first live show I ever got high at was Skankin Pickle touring Skafunkrastapunk. Somehow completely unrelated I ended up with their bass drum kick pedal about a year and a half later. I don't even listen to ska though. But the attitude is all mine!

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lemmy.world

Where is the beauty in billionaires taking over the world and fucking everybody?

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In the cracks left behind where plants can still grow

A good kiss

Your baby's words

Lots of beauty to find, plenty of life to live

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hyperpop: the world is working exactly as intended and you should be as many levels of angry as there are genre influences in this track

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Just different stages of grief. The world is broken. Maybe we can fix some parts of it but nobody is going to singlehandedly fix everything. Trying to fix it is the bargaining stage of grief. Being upset that you can't do anything is the depression stage. Embracing it is the acceptance stage. Can't change the world but we can change our attitude.

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It all sounds so dated now... I used to listen to all this stuff.

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These all represent the good old days to me. Almost like we were manufacturing our own angst because things were relatively nice.

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IS there a variation of emo music where it's like "The world is broken, but that's okay - I'm fighting to deal with the broken parts"

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